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Hey Johnny Bravo said:
I've discussed this elsewhere and a little bit in private with some other users, but Trump is some sort of autistic savant when it comes to the Middle East. GW Bush completely fucked things up there (which already weren't good), Obama couldn't make much headway because he was pro-Iran as the regional hegemon, and obviously Middle Eastern leaders walked over Biden. However, after King Abdullah died, Trump somehow managed to completely re-orient Saudi Arabia.

The news doesn't talk about it because it makes Trump look good, but he's managed to get Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain, and Egypt to all cooperate with the US on a number of issues - but the big ones are cooperation with Egypt and singling out Iran. It doesn't help that the Obama nuclear deal emboldened Iran, which has pissed off all its neighbors.

It's so weird.
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He treats them with respect and not silly little nations that need to be taught democracy and shit. That is it. And apparently respect moves mountains in the Muslim world. He also maintains his strength while doing so, so it doesn't come off as sucking off/simping.
 
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W@rui said:
What does it say about Ukraine/Russia if Trump is able to get peace between Israel/Iran before them?
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real war for territory fought by real armies on the ground, between nations that are committed to fight to the death
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standoff "war" fought exclusively with aircraft and long range missiles, not a single soldier anywhere near the other nations territory
 
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NEET gunray said:
Trump has always had more economic nationalist views he was talking about how the U.S was getting trade raped back in the 1990s,he's bragged about major infrastructure plans and he feuds with the federal reserve. Also after 2020 libertarian tech bro types abandoned him in favor of Desantis and Vivek but real American patriots stood by him.
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Economic nationalism and libertarianism are fundamentally opposed on a conceptual level. Even the most basic economically nationalist measures, such as tariffs to protect domestic industries or other means to restrict offshoring, are anathema to libertarian economics which are all about laissez-faire and the completely unrestricted movement of goods, capital, labor, etc. across borders at all costs.

Arguably nationalism and libertarianism are opposed on an even more fundamental level beyond economics as well, since nationalism axiomatically recognizes the nation as the highest good and individuals as subordinate to the nation (hence the name) whereas libertarianism is axiomatically individualistic and doesn't have much tolerance for the idea that sometimes, individuals (usually the rich & mighty at that) might need to be restricted from doing something that would benefit them immensely but screw over others and their nation (like moving their factory to China to be staffed by dirt-cheap bugmen).

Anyway, nice to know that that ceasefire between Iran & Israel is in place and actually holding, to the point that Trump even restrained Israel from going balls out to break it at the slightest provocation. To the ungrateful kikes seething in the replies to reposts of Trump's Truth Social post, I can only say this...

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HeyYou said:
Luckily that kind of apocalyptic schizo Christianity is on its way out and all the discussions revolving around Israel in the younger generations are exactly what they should be about, when Israel benefits us on a policy level and when they don't, which is all that should matter.
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I'm glad that zoomers are finally taking Dr. King's words "judge us by the content of our characters" seriously instead of pretending that it means "don't criticize minorities no matter how bad they act as a group"
 
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Hey Johnny Bravo said:
The news doesn't talk about it because it makes Trump look good, but he's managed to get Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain, and Egypt to all cooperate with the US on a number of issues - but the big ones are cooperation with Egypt and singling out Iran.
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To say I'm bearish on Israel cooperating would be an understatement. I would sooner expect Netanyahu to go on camera and insult Trump for thinking a goy can order around a member of "God's chosen people." This is to say nothing of all the dual citizens in US government who will bend over backwards to make excuses on Israel's behalf.
 
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BibiLivesMatter said:
Trump should let them decimate each other, and pave a mcdonalds over the one that loses.
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Israel losing and being paved over to make a beachfront resort nation for Palistinians would ultimately be cheaper for America than Iran losing and Israel continuing to suck off our teat. I don't even give a fuck about Palistine. I'm just tired of throwing billions of dollars at an advanced, 1st world country who treats us with contempt.

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CaliforniaRaisin said:
Israel losing and being paved over to make a beachfront resort nation for Palistinians would ultimately be cheaper for America than Iran losing and Israel continuing to suck off our teat. I don't even give a fuck about Palistine. I'm just tired of throwing billions of dollars at an advanced, 1st world country who treats us with contempt.

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First time seeing this chart and....that fucking much....towards goddamn......AFGHANISTAN.

I knew how wasteful that venture was but seeing the numbers like this still makes me go
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COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST said:
To say I'm bearish on Israel cooperating would be an understatement. I would sooner expect Netanyahu to go on camera and insult Trump for thinking a goy can order around a member of "God's chosen people." This is to say nothing of all the dual citizens in US government who will bend over backwards to make excuses on Israel's behalf.
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The problem for Israel is that Trump can always fall back on Saudi Arabia to play against Israel. If Israel doesn't cooperate, well then... maybe the Democrats are right and Iran is the better country to work with than Israel? Trump is an opportunist at heart. It would be quite the fucking turn if Trump started being nice with Iran with the Saudis behind him, but I wouldn't put it past Trump if it meant bringing the Israelis to heel.

What I do agree with the Jewspergs about is that Israel's leadership (especially Bibi) behaves like their country is more important than it actually is.
 
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Blewberry Nausea said:
As one nominates him for Israel/Iran, another withdraws their nomination for Ukraine/Russia
Oleksandr Merezhko, the head of Ukraine's parliamentary foreign committee, told Newsweek on Tuesday he had "lost any sort of faith and belief" in Trump and his ability to secure a ceasefire between Moscow and Kyiv.
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Ukraine does not like that no one is talking about them anymore lol
 
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harmy.kook said:
Oh no you're wasting your time.

HHH is the same guy who got exposed for crying to the mods and helping get the DJT thread locked because people started messing with him/his ilk the same way he supposedly™ does.

So the fact that people started apologizing and listening to him continues to make this even better.
Even more so all of these people have to either come back here and whine; or go back to the TES thread.
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Lol why do you newfag rapefugees make this shit up? I know you're a gullible retard that believes everything he reads online like a good little boomer, but that never happened lol. I was against the DJT thread being locked, but I understand why Null did it.

In fact, it was Thunderdomers who whined to Null to ban me for not loving Republicans with every fiber of my being
 
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HeyYou said:
Luckily that kind of apocalyptic schizo Christianity is on its way out and all the discussions revolving around Israel in the younger generations are exactly what they should be about, when Israel benefits us on a policy level and when they don't, which is all that should matter.
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I dunno. In the Midwest, that Christianity is still alive and strong.

It's typically the coastal cities where that Christianity was replaced by the "love thy neighbor" Christianity
 
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