Navy SEALs, Delta Force, and SOCOM general - The most "Special" groups in the U.S. Military

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Fuck guys I can't find gainful employment to save my life. Should I join? I'm in my 20's if that matters.

As long as youre okay with possibly dying for something stupid, its not a bad gig IF you make sure to get a MOS that has post service application.

 

[deleuzeon]

Part of me thinks no one wants to be there, and they half-assed it to make a point.

Green Berets have to represent America to foreign fighters. They should definitely understand the value of appearances. They're not supposed to just be a CQB wank unit, they're supposed to be half diplomat as well. So they're just showing us their professional competence here. Very unimpressive.

 

[The Grognard]

As long as youre okay with possibly dying for something stupid, its not a bad gig IF you make sure to get a MOS that has post service application.

This is also one of the upsides of conscription systems done well. When .gov trains you to be an aircraft mechanic or truck driver with dangeous cargo certificates, it helps you on the job market and it helps the nation by ensuring the economy's got enough people for special jobs.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

get a MOS that has post service application

In lieu of stacking rainbows on you, hiring managers are avoiding veterans because they believe they're difficult to work with or lazy. That could change in the five or so years after someone enlists but it's become a growing sentiment with any company that isn't veteran owned no matter how mundane.

 

[ToEnsureVerification]

In lieu of stacking rainbows on you, hiring managers are avoiding veterans because they believe they're difficult to work with or lazy

A good chunk of GWOT veterans from a combat MOS are legit insane and/or have substance abuse issues. That already makes it a tough sell in a competitive market. They also know how to use guns and probably like them, which is a problem when they'll want a raise and maybe won't get it. Maybe some other branches have better luck.

This is also one of the upsides of conscription systems done well.

Or Conscription could also devolve into you being slave labor for the state for 1-2 years. Even Israelis don't like conscription and from what I gathered it doesn't "prepare" them for much in the civilian world. I don't know, was Scandinavia the only place that got it more or less right?

Fuck guys I can't find gainful employment to save my life. Should I join? I'm in my 20's if that matters.

No. Literally do anything else of value to society, as frustrating as it can be. None of the people who ruined their lives while doing military service thought to themselves that they'd be the ones with a ruined life when they joined. Learn to paint, carpentry or metal work. Learn to climb mountains or become a gym rat. Hell, just play video games, post here and be a good person. That's also cool.

I will never not repost this video.

Edit: I have to stop posting before checking Bob's twitter account.

holy shit lol

 

[Kheapathic]

Fuck guys I can't find gainful employment to save my life. Should I join? I'm in my 20's if that matters.

Depends, are you white; if so, no.

 

[The Grognard]

I don't know, was Scandinavia the only place that got it more or less right?

I'd argue there needs to be a number of conditions that make the system work, which these countries have mastered quite well. There needs to be a strong culture of national and/or ideological pride involved, a society where the service is valued even after it's done and the actual value of training has to be relevant to both the state and the soldier. A particular example of this is in how officers are trained in Finland, is that they all start as privates who do their six months. From there, those who want to continue on can choose to become officers or non-commissioned officers, who then go on to do 6 months more of either AUK or RUK courses. They even get practical experience with commanding troops, as they are then incorporated into the drills and practices of the next batch of regular 6 month troops. That way, they get to experience both sides of being ordered and ordering around. Once they do actually go out, having RUK or AUK in your CV will put a leg up on any company seeking to hire you since you are seen as a more valuable man in Finnish society.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

I'm not saying it's acceptable; but even basic Marine Corps, the only time we refresh close order drill/marching, is either you're part of the Birthday Ball, or some SNCO recently came off the Drill Field and thinks we're all bags of ass that need more discipline. The latter happens more often than you think; Gunnies and Sgt. Majors love getting Staff to put the smokey on and fucking yell at us. That being said, this parade has been in the planning phase for a long time; no one bother to fucking do remedial close order drill? Left-Right-Left, Eyes Right, fucking anyone?

seems like it falls in line with the relaxed SF attitude. i recall sf dudes not saluting or giving a shit about wearing hats.

contrast that with the rangers who're the soldier's soldier also being shabby marchers.

 

[karz]

Fuck guys I can't find gainful employment to save my life. Should I join? I'm in my 20's if that matters.

Don't join "because I can't find any other options"; join with intent, purpose, and a goal in mind. Don't huff the "I'm Defending Freedom!" copium - you're not. You're inevitably defending the corporate and political interests of the United States. A lot of civilians consider military "end of the line" career options (and by most respects it is) but it doesn't have to be end of the line.
If you treat it as a place to learn, it usually is. The military will always train you up from zero if you show initiative to learn and continually improve yourself. First, if you currently hold a degree, at least consider pursuing a career in the officer corps. You are generally treated better with more flexibility and better pay. If you plan to enlist, do your best to get a job with real-world, practical applications, and please, for your sanity, use your tuition assistance for a spot in the officer corps if you end up staying.

And, as always, study for your fucking exam(s). A higher score will grant you a significant advantage in your ability to choose the job you will be doing.

 

[PiedPiper]

Fuck guys I can't find gainful employment to save my life. Should I join? I'm in my 20's if that matters.

As others have said, if you are going to join, make sure you set some goals. I do not know the terms of engagement in your country, but you need to set specific 1, 3 and 5 year goals (if you intend on staying that long). There needs to be an outcome at the end of service - that isn't just "time served" - don't join and fritter away 20 years of your life. As a 20 year old look at MOS that AI cannot do and which have applicability outside of the military.

 

[ToEnsureVerification]

Saddest video of the year. OnexPunchxDad is the funniest/coolest military influencer and kept it real.

 

[ToEnsureVerification]

Sorry for the Double post.

Rare Shaw Ryan W


The commander of CENTCOM, Kurilla, is really a piece of work. Archive


Mid-GWOT ( 2003-2008 )

The years between 2003 and 2008 saw General Kurilla deeply involved in the ongoing conflicts of the Global War on Terrorism. In 2005, he took command of the elite 75th Ranger Regiment. Leading this regiment meant overseeing deployments and operations within both Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom, often involving high-risk missions alongside allied forces.

Later, in 2006, Kurilla assumed leadership of the Joint Special Operations Task Force – Afghanistan (JSOTF-A). This role placed him at the center of coordinating special operations across Afghanistan, managing a diverse range of missions and working with international partners within Operation Enduring Freedom.

Later GWOT & Beyond (2008 - Present)

Following his operational commands, General Kurilla transitioned to strategic roles. From 2008 to 2011, he served as Deputy Director for Special Operations and Counter-terrorism on the Joint Staff (J3), advising senior military leaders on policy and strategy related to these critical areas. He then commanded XVIII Airborne Corps at Fort Bragg, preparing the rapid deployment force for potential contingencies. As of April 2022, General Kurilla holds the position of Commander of United States Central Command, overseeing U.S. military operations in the Middle East and continuing counter-terrorism efforts against groups like ISIS.

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He's not part of disease, he's a fucking tumor. He alone would deserve a couple of chapters of "The Fort Bragg Cartel".

 

[Kheapathic]

He's not part of disease, he's a fucking tumor. He alone would deserve a couple of chapters of "The Fort Bragg Cartel".

This can be said of any Field Grade Officer and above. You might be able to squeak into O-4 without making any deals; but O-5 and above you have to be part of the club. Sure there's a lot of experience that should be utilized; but we also need to consider that these people are part of the club, and they only get in trouble when they become too much of a problem to protect.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

I seem better marching cohesion in a high school marching band. Seriously, these people were completely and utterly embarrassing. And someone I knew was actually in the parade. Wasn't an embarrassing person.
You think someone at the top of the military would be like okay for 4 weeks? You're going to do nothing but drill, drill, drill, drill, drill practice. So you don't look like a complete fool in front of world leaders. Nope.

 

[ToEnsureVerification]

Iran was bombed by B2 bombers. The straight of Hormuz has been declared closed by Iran. We are just one "Operation Hormuz Prosperity" from another forever war in the Middle East. Great.

Bob is not liking the strikes.

To be fair, I've seen many people talk about Iran having infiltrated the US mainland through the southern border, but if they are, they are probably keeping it as a last resort.

Medal of Honor recipient and former SEAL Edward Byers is a great friend of the State of Israel. But his audience... it varies.



Justin Taylor talking about new Lt. Colonels that were appointed. He is very bitter, having worked his ass of to become a Captain. Hopefully they don't go the Galen Huss route and shoot up a utility worker in their backyard.

 

[karz]

He is very bitter, having worked his ass of to become a Captain. Hopefully they don't go the Galen Huss route and shoot up a utility worker in their backyard.

The executives appointed are supposed to serve in advisory roles only and don't have direct access to items like classified intelligence. They're also limited to being in the office for 120 hours (or possibly slightly more) per year. I don't fully understand it myself. If the Pentagon wanted closer integration with these companies, it could have signed contracts or a semiannual advisory board without all the pomp of swearing in Lt. Col. reservists.
Even if this is a legitimate thing to do, it still has the appearance of corruption begetting corruption.

edit:

Spoiler: CIA propaganda ("good job" edition)

 

[ToEnsureVerification]

Even if this is a legitimate thing to do, it still has the appearance of corruption begetting corruption.

Well...

It's not like it's a distant possibility, or that people aren't considering it.

 

[ToEnsureVerification]

Child Rape at Fort Bragg uncovered again. This time at a massive scale. Holy fuck, at least 30 kids confirmed and 7 years old being the youngest. / Archive


"Investigators have linked the soldier to 30 confirmed victims, although they believe that in total, his victims “are likely to number in the hundreds,” the Army said. Investigators learned of Stewart’s interactions with minors when a parent in Iowa contacted police."

Stewart was just a POG. Not SOF. But he was part of the XVIII Airborne Corps, which was commanded by Kurilla for almost 3 years before commanding. How much child rape did the Fort Bragg higher ups decide to cover up?

"If you want your child raped, Fort Bragg's the place!" should be a new motto for the base.

Politico Article, talking about how SECDEF is Kurilla's bitch, basically. / Archive

 

[deleuzeon]

Between getting pics of underage boys, and sending underage boys classified pics of them and their gear, we need to just take away the phones and cameras from these people. They can't handle it.

 

[JayseeDenton]

I've been listening more and more to "Coffee Long" from "The Abuse Hour" and I'm fairly certain that he's a Fed honeypot,. His show is too well polished, has a Telegram and Instagram, and he has too many episodes without getting phonebooked or having problems from payment processors. Seems smart, but rambles too much when speaking about the "hate" subjects. And his general thread of thought has too many contradictions.

One moment he's saying that he hates a fellow "white" dude for sleeping with a minor overseas (I assume South or Central America), not for racemixing with a non-white but for doing something immoral, and then he talks about throwing illegals to the sea with a static line and how he'd very much like to see that? I don't buy it. There are other instances like that but it is just my opinion that things don't add up.

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Fresh channel from a Green Beret. Apparently they don't have a good mission set and the GB are a dying organization and their job is being taken by JSOC, Rangers and Delta in case of direct action or regular Army or other units for regular teaching of basic soldiering.

The fundamental problem with green berets is that their role is dependent on local brownoids being able to learn and be courageous which is a very risky thing to bet on.