Ethan Klein / h3h3Productions - Opportunistic, two-faced e-celeb sperg with a penchant for hypocrisy and an Oedipus complex; sold out to Susan Wojcicki, the incompetent CEO of YouTube

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Who would win in a fight?

  • Ethan Klein

    Votes: 291 3.9%
  • Sam Hyde

    Votes: 7,171 96.1%

  • Total voters
    7,462
I may be wrong, but Ethan’s argument for saying that maliciousness is a “dunk” in those cases seems irrelevant. Intent does not appear to be necessary for liability, and maliciousness doesn’t even seem to be relevant for statutory damages. The key is whether they knew or had reason to know that they were infringing on copyright or violating copyright rights. Ethan explicitly says he “trapped” them and so on, so it seems he may have fuck his own case for damages at the trial stage. Or maybe he doesn’t care and just wants a ruling on liability so he can go after Hasan.
 
I'm not joking — I fully believe there are Mossad agents employed to be on Kiwi Farms in an effort to sway public opinion in favor of the Jews. I am suspicious of anyone defending H3, and I'm sure at least 70% of them are covert Mossad agents with multiple tabs open ready to give me trash and hat reacts.
Running interference for kikes should get you banned from kiwi farms.

Running interference for Hassan and his gaggle of retards should get you sent to Abu Ghraib.
 
That's what I alluded to as well. The shipper scammed the company. Though my theories were based on the amount of knowledge I had at the time such as a chargeback or cancelling the card (Revolut allows the user to make disposable cards) after a recurring payment was set up.
Yeah no, Ethan said the company verified that the alog didn't actually have any verifiable payment infomation on file.
 
I may be wrong, but Ethan’s argument for saying that maliciousness is a “dunk” in those cases seems irrelevant. Intent does not appear to be necessary for liability, and maliciousness doesn’t even seem to be relevant for statutory damages. The key is whether they knew or had reason to know that they were infringing on copyright or violating copyright rights. Ethan explicitly says he “trapped” them and so on, so it seems he may have fuck his own case for damages at the trial stage. Or maybe he doesn’t care and just wants a ruling on liability so he can go after Hasan.
The malicious intent matters a lot when it comes to proving that they were intentionally providing a market replacement.
They could have done so accidentally and just been stupid, which weighs a lot different in court than doing so with intent.

Especially in a jury trial it will matters a lot if you can show a jury how people organize the activity with the malicious intent and desire to damage him financially clearly spelled out.

This is more so true when it comes to the award of damages.
 
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I may be wrong, but Ethan’s argument for saying that maliciousness is a “dunk” in those cases seems irrelevant. Intent does not appear to be necessary for liability, and maliciousness doesn’t even seem to be relevant for statutory damages. The key is whether they knew or had reason to know that they were infringing on copyright or violating copyright rights. Ethan explicitly says he “trapped” them and so on, so it seems he may have fuck his own case for damages at the trial stage. Or maybe he doesn’t care and just wants a ruling on liability so he can go after Hasan.
ethans actually a retard i can't wait for a judge to see all this shit
 
The malicious intent matters a lot when it comes to proving that they were intentionally providing a market replacement.
They could have done so accidentally and just been stupid, which weighs a lot different in court than doing so with intent.

Especially in a jury trial it will matters a lot if you can show a jury how people organize the activity with the malicious intent and desire to damage him financially clearly spelled out.

This is more so true when it comes to the award of damages.
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With what I am reading is that only the infringement matter in term of knowing it or acting in disregard, if you try to ''steal view'' of a work you believe or had reason to believe isnt copyrighted then it dont seem to count in statuory damage maybe for actual damage which you need material loss which is hard to prove it seem.
 
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With what I am reading is that only the infringement matter in term of knowing it or acting in disregard, if you try to ''steal view'' of a work you believe or had reason to believe isnt copyrighted then it dont seem to count in statuory damage maybe for actual damage which you need material loss which is hard to prove it seem.
At least you can try to argue it, but their behavior and the explicit nature of their admissions doom them.
They should all kowtow, settle with Ethan and suck his big Jewish Dick if that is what it takes, otherwise they will get assfucked publicly in court.
But since they have all been behaving erratically, because they do not understand how the real world works, I fully expect them to make it worse for themselves instead.
 
I may be wrong, but Ethan’s argument for saying that maliciousness is a “dunk” in those cases seems irrelevant. Intent does not appear to be necessary for liability, and maliciousness doesn’t even seem to be relevant for statutory damages. The key is whether they knew or had reason to know that they were infringing on copyright or violating copyright rights. Ethan explicitly says he “trapped” them and so on, so it seems he may have fuck his own case for damages at the trial stage. Or maybe he doesn’t care and just wants a ruling on liability so he can go after Hasan.
Maliciousness, for example, posting a dmca sent to you by the complaintent, makes it MUCH easier for the complaintent.
 
At least you can try to argue it, but their behavior and the explicit nature of their admissions doom them.
They should all kowtow, settle with Ethan and suck his big Jewish Dick if that is what it takes, otherwise they will get assfucked publicly in court.
But since they have all been behaving erratically, because they do not understand how the real world works, I fully expect them to make it worse for themselves instead.
The fact that Kaceytron is so fucking retarded to have not even contacted a lawyer after a week of being notified of the coming suit as well as it having been filed, is hilarious in and of itself. Obviously a lawyer would tell her to shut up but she probably wouldn't bother listening, but to have not contacted one at all just hoping the shit would go away? She's a streamer who sits on her ass at home all day, it's like not it would be difficult to track her down to serve her with the suit but I don't believe she's intelligent enough to have even thought about it that way. She couldn't even put the weed down for long enough to spend a few hundred on a consultation with a lawyer.

Denims was also running her mouth, but I think Kaceytron is going to be the star of this shit show
 
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like we said & Legalmind set said the door opening end of reaction content.
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another good synopsis of the lawsuit.
 
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Ethan Klein the one Jew commie wrecking crew.
Ethan "takin my 9 to the welfare line" Klein.
Intent does not appear to be necessary for liability, and maliciousness doesn’t even seem to be relevant for statutory damages.
The word "malice" generally isn't used, but "willfulness" is what justifies the highest range of awards. While not all willfulness is malice, a malicious infringement with the intent to harm would almost certainly be found to be willful as well. There are also possible punitive damages (but in the Ninth Circuit only if Klein proves actual damages).
The malicious intent matters a lot when it comes to proving that they were intentionally providing a market replacement.

Especially in a jury trial it will matters a lot if you can show a jury how people organize the activity with the malicious intent and desire to damage him financially clearly spelled out.
The judge ultimately determines the amount of statutory damages as a matter of law, although the jury may determine willfulness (which changes the potential range of damages) and may be given instructions in the form of a jury questionnaire to make findings of fact relevant to the judge's ultimate determination.

Not "malicious" so much as "willful." That's the relevant term of art, because if you maliciously did something intending it to cause harm, you knew it would cause the target financial harm and you willfully did it anyway. That's what raises the cap on statutory damages to $150,000 per infringement.
Maliciousness, for example, posting a dmca sent to you by the complaintent, makes it MUCH easier for the complaintent.
So Google's Lumen Database is illegal? I'd say this is completely retarded, and then call you a retard, but I think you're probably referring to a certain Tenth Circuit case involving this very site. So instead I'll call three Tenth Circuit judges retards.
With what I am reading is that only the infringement matter in term of knowing it or acting in disregard, if you try to ''steal view'' of a work you believe or had reason to believe isnt copyrighted then it dont seem to count in statuory damage maybe for actual damage which you need material loss which is hard to prove it seem.
This is why people go for statutory damages so often.

I think someone as heavily monetized as Klein would actually not have much difficulty proving, or at least arguing for, a specific amount of actual damages. He just needs to count his shekels, divide by the number of views he got on the infringed work to get a "per view" value, count the number of views on the infringing copies, and multiply by that value.

That would at least be a good place to start and on top of that, technical enough that arguing back and forth about it for months would be ruinously expensive.
I won't bother arguing with anyone because clearly it'll get no where. I'll wait until someone contacts or subpoenas the skull company. The CPS shit already went from "it never happened" to "he deserved it because it was legitimate from concerned people".
CPS scumfuckery, much like ratting someone out to the IRS, is the sort of shit engaged in by the lowest of vermin. I don't mean mandatory reporter stuff, but over an Internet beef, and I'd even make an exception on IRS scumfuckery if the guy was something like your employer and ripped you off.
Running interference for kikes should get you banned from kiwi farms.

Running interference for Hassan and his gaggle of retards should get you sent to Abu Ghraib.
Calm down Goebbels, it's entirely possible to hate both Klein and Hasan.[/QUOTE]
 
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I think someone as heavily monetized as Klein would actually not have much difficulty proving, or at least arguing for, a specific amount of actual damages. He just needs to count his shekels, divide by the number of views he got on the infringed work to get a "per view" value, count the number of views on the infringing copies, and multiply by that value.

That would at least be a good place to start and on top of that, technical enough that arguing back and forth about it for months would be ruinously expensive.
Sorry I'm a retard, is there any reason that he would not be able to go for both statutory damages and actual damages to maximize financial ruination of the target?
 
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Andrew Clifford d'Adesky is jew so of course he going to side with Ethan from his one man law firm in Florida. He's a real estate lawyer with zero experience or understanding of copyright law.
 
I honestly think nothing will come out of it. Those 3 retards are making some money out of it (GoFundMe) but are sweating bullets which alone is probably already a huge W for Ethan (not to mention making a total ass of themselves online instead of shutting the fuck up). And since Hamas Piker is just sitting there fiddling his thumb he might also disrupt his "inncer circle". Just enjoy the shitshow with some good popcorn
 
like we said & Legalmind set said the door opening end of reaction content.
The only reason why Pisco said that this could be a win for Ethan Klein was that the "nature of the copyrighted work favors the plaintiff". Which I could not comprehend. Ethan made a social commentary video which takes place within a social dialogue. Ethan broadcasts his video for free on youtube. Ethan brings up the names of some of the defendants and raises questions about their standing. Ethan was broadcasting the video 24/7 on twitch.tv for free. Why did Pisco say that the nature of the copyrighted work favors Ethan here? Without that then the defendants have half of the "four factors" in their favor and it's actually not a guaranteed win for Ethan.

I look forward to see what Legal Mindset has to say. It'll be interesting seeing him reading 3 lawsuits that have 30 mentions of "antisemitism" per filing after he went "these wacky people are weaponizing sexism!".
 
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"You don't even have to think about it dude, just trust the experts!"

(years later)

"Oh man, I trusted the experts and it fucked my whole life up. If only I thought about it myself, dude."
 
Yeah no, Ethan said the company verified that the alog didn't actually have any verifiable payment infomation on file.
Surely there's something.
Emails, phone record, anything.

Mightily unpopular opinion: if all it really took was someone asking for a rushed service and promising to pay later, this company deserved to get fucking scammed. It's not grandpa being gaslit by Kumar Pajeet, it's a company that dominates one niche. What were they thinking?

The more I think about this the less sense it makes. Maybe the gayopping faggotry from Hamas' al-roach brigades really are that psychotic.
 
The Kaceytron crashout is absolutely hilarious.

Asmongold reacted to her crying on stream yesterday and voiced his opinion, and now she is completely melting down.
For clarification, Asmongold did not support or mention people harassing her in any way. He said "she deserves it", which is accurate, because she did was she is being accused of and has been using her platform to lie about people and perpetuate lies and coordinate harassment. She is a crybully.

Ethan Klein really gave us a story to farm and laugh about for 2025 that nobody saw coming.

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