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Republican candidate for NYC mayor, Curtis Sliwa, said he would join forces with Eric Adams if it was the only way to stop Zohran Mamdani from winning the mayoral election.

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Siwa attributes Mamdani's mayoral win in the democratic primary to strong support from wealthy, educated white Gen Z and millennial voters in affluent NYC neighborhoods.

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I like the cut of this man's gib. I hope he pulls a miracle and wins.
 
I dunno man I'm very skeptical that there is effective conversion therapy. If there were, there are a lot of religious groups who would use it.
They do. Do you actually believe in today's climate they'd be boasting openly about it? They'd rather save their own children and families than risk outrage mobs constantly fucking with their genuine efforts to fix the problem.
 
Sadly it's not a matter of if, but when a school district will try to circumvent the ruling.
I took an AP lit course as a senior and I jokingly threw down my copy of Candide that had the nude illustrations in it and said it was filth and I wouldn't read it, and my old lesbian teacher was like alright I guess you don't read it then and confiscated my copy. I thought it was an interesting political interaction even though this was before most of the lgbt movement really kicked off. We both knew I wasn't serious so she still expected me to complete the assignment.
 
This is your mind on porn. First they came for the porn. And I didn't speak up. Now they came for the Kiwi Fruit Fourm. It's ridiculous. And we would fight in court retard.
this isn't greee its the various governments of the us. and scotus already dropped the fair use case null brought. how does KF win this lawsuit?
 
Yeah, it's much less than those programs, but that's because those programs give WAY more than they should to WAY more people than they should. I even said in my post that it's not available in all states, but IF you live in a state where it's available you should be taking advantage of it. I didn't know about it until maybe a year ago and it was available in a state that my relatives live in for several years - that's why I'm telling people now so they know about it. In fact I wouldn't have heard about it if a friend hadn't given me the heads up, that's why I'm even bothering to mention it in the first place.

Your argument boils down to "well all these other shitty programs give way more money so why even bother." That's fucking retarded. There are absolutely people who leech off the welfare system and everyone knows it, but this is one program that's limited in scope and directly benefits people who give enough of a shit to send their kid to a good school OR homeschool the kids themselves. Which means it typically doesn't benefit worthless pieces of shit who steal tax money to buy menthols and soda which is exactly what you're describing. This is perhaps one of the only cases where government subsidies could go to a worthwhile cause and you're bitching about it.

calm down

the discussion is about the elimination of the middle class

if you have more than one kid, either you earn higher than a middle class income, or you are massively subsidized.

those subsidies allow for giant corporate employers to continue to depress wages.

the anger this board consistenly has at some kind of giant population of welfare cheats is due to people who piss you off when you buy your tendies at the piggly wiggly and it needs to be redirected. it is not based in the reality of who actually gets gibs. most welfare benefits, including subsidized health care, go to either retired people or to working parents. if you eliminate health care, it's mostly going to working parents.

you cannot get gibs without having a job unless you are disabled. that is a small proportion of the total population receiving gibs, no matter how large their ass is when it's in your way at the store.

everyone who is working at every place where you're annoyed by welfare cheats? if they have kids, they get gibs.
 
The idea that a flat earther would actively pull their child out of geography class, while funny, is guaranteed to be a microscopic outlier if it happens at all.
Ah, but interestingly this is now a legal RIGHT they would have. Before it would have been impossible without home-schooling. This sets the precedent that parents and/or guardians can selectively opt-out of certain materials at public school, provided that it can be provably related to religion. Since the state can't perfectly dictate what is a religious belief vs. not, the implications of this law are larger than it's immediate effects re: Muslim/LBGTQ+. I believe one of the justices said something to the effect of it having generational implications.
 
They do. Do you actually believe in today's climate they'd be boasting openly about it? They'd rather save their own children and families than risk outrage mobs constantly fucking with their genuine efforts to fix the problem.

there are people who make whole ass careers out of supposedly being success stories of conversion therapy. they write books and have conferences. they are still very obviously very gay.
 
Wasn’t the problem with conversion shit is a lot of predators infiltrated it to get access to victims?

Among other things. Blaming a conspiracy ignores that promising desperate parents that you can "cure" their sons homosexuality was always going to attract the worst grifters searching for marks. Driving anyone respectable from the field and blacklisting it then ensured that there was system by which parents could differentiate genuine practioners who might have success in some cases from frauds or abusers. Add in the infiltration of prosperity gospel types into American evangelical Christianity and you had a recipe for disaster.

It is perfectly possible to say that for some, perhaps many, there are benifits to explorative therapy, while also acknowledging that as it functioned in the USA during the 1980s/1990s "conversion therapy" was a scourge that drove thousands to suicide. It is also perfectly consistent to acknowledge that the network of camps run by closeted prosperity gospel peddling pedophiles fully deserved not just to be shut down but nuked from orbit while also calling out the fanatics and predators pushing to prescribe any therapy.

We shouldn't have revisionist history. Almost
 
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