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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
Starmer wants war as a distract, but Trump IMO will tell him to BTFO - Trump wants peace before he wants war (I'm aware of Iran, but that appears to be over before it began - thankfully!) and I don't believe he'd back Starmer sending people in to fight a forever war; in fact, he'd then want a regime change and for Nigel to become PM.

Trump is very specific about boots on the ground being a complete no-no. For all the drama around the recent 12 Day War he never once considered landing troops or actually putting the US Army in place. Bombing runs are just a older form of drone warfare when you think about it, and the USA has been using drones for decades.
 
The problem is that a lot of young people have entitlement issues (and some older ones too!) and will not do the van driving/turd wiping because 'OMG, just think what people will think of me - my status, my feels!'
I guess this is where my divergent personality disorder kicks in. I don't care what most other people think. There are about 10 people in this world whose opinion actually matters to me.
The rest is about earning. As Little Caesar says in Sleepers, "ain't nothing worth more than the green". Perhaps this is the problem with the government of the last 30 years, the alternative to not doing the van driving job shouldn't be PIP or unemployment benefit. It should be starvation. There is honour in every job, so long as it is a legitimate job ( not a fucking influencer ) and in my estimation there isn't a massive differential in some sort of subjective hierarchy. They all pay taxes and contribute to society. What I mean is a doctor and a street sweeper both do something of value and both pay taxes and make a contriution.
We've developed a soft society here - the 'Be Kinds' and the 'Be Nice' have a lot to answer for (the only thing they should be is quiet, permanently) as they've purposely made young people unemployable: Tarquin can't tell you about fiscal skills, but he does know that he has a glittery vagina and that Black Lives Mater.
Who has been in charge of academia for at least the last 30 years ? It's only the Left that put "feelings" up on a pedestal. Unfortunately those of us that live in the real world know that it can be a hard and nasty place. If you want to succeed, you have to have a skill that differentiates you from others. There's only one profession ( and it's the oldest ) where I can think a glittery vagina might make you more employable......
In defence of some of the hard workers, HR will demand to see your Social Media and if you say no then you don't get the job because you could be posting 'mean and nasty things
My immediate question to HR would be - do I look like Trump, Musk or a 12 year old girl to you ? I have no social media. I'm a fucking professional. Ask me a question that is relevant to my job. Oh that's right you can't because your IQ is 100 at best and the peak of your profession is working out how many days holiday are remaining and which tax code I should have.

Yes, there are opportunities out there, but I also get the point when some younger people who aren't whiny retards say 'the state cares f**k all for me, why should I contribute - why should I play the game?' There has to be a trade-off and work has to be seen as valued, with the worker him/herself also valued and rewarded well. Crony Capitalism is wrong, as is Crony Quasi-Socialism which the Uniparty are all too eager to ram down our throats.
The State's role is to find the sweet spot for the majority of the youth whereby they have to work hard and contribute to society to be rewarded, but not load the game against them so much that it acts as such a major disincentive that demotivates into apathy.
 
Not a bad guess, but my thoughts will be that the Far Left will Jo Cox anybody in authority who doesn't agree with them.
My guess is a Reform candidate gets Cox'd. Genuinely think as we get closer to the elections that someone will try and take a potshot at Farage because they think if he dies, Reform dies. Probably why he's spending so much time in the US at the moment as he knows there's an absolute powder keg about to drop and would rather it be a nameless Reform candidate than him so he could petition to get an armed guard.

But that's more a later thing, as far as this Summer goes a blackout is a good shout. Before the Iran-Israel shit became cold again my biggest fear was Iranians basically going "right, I'm going to get shot anyway so any terrorist cells in the UK might as well do something before I perish", but that's pretty much dropped now, plus Mossad pretty much has the entire Iranian network compromised anyway so we'd know before it happened (like the Synagogue attempt)

In reality, I think absolutely nothing is going to happen this Summer. Mainly because everybody is itching for something to happen, and when you think something is going to happen it doesn't. Nothing ever happens.
 
My guess is a Reform candidate gets Cox'd. Genuinely think as we get closer to the elections that someone will try and take a potshot at Farage because they think if he dies

Joke is on them, killing Farage would be the best thing possible for the right wing in Britain. The designated stooge grifter will be gone and someone who actually wants to take over and smash the London bubble instead of joining it would take over.

But I agree, probably nothing will happen this year.
 
My guess is a Reform candidate gets Cox'd. Genuinely think as we get closer to the elections that someone will try and take a potshot at Farage because they think if he dies, Reform dies. Probably why he's spending so much time in the US at the moment as he knows there's an absolute powder keg about to drop and would rather it be a nameless Reform candidate than him so he could petition to get an armed guard.

But that's more a later thing, as far as this Summer goes a blackout is a good shout. Before the Iran-Israel shit became cold again my biggest fear was Iranians basically going "right, I'm going to get shot anyway so any terrorist cells in the UK might as well do something before I perish", but that's pretty much dropped now, plus Mossad pretty much has the entire Iranian network compromised anyway so we'd know before it happened (like the Synagogue attempt)

In reality, I think absolutely nothing is going to happen this Summer. Mainly because everybody is itching for something to happen, and when you think something is going to happen it doesn't. Nothing ever happens.
Not a bad call, and yes I agree Reform UK MP's and backers/voters will be in the cross-hairs of the angry mob, but I believe they'll go for the current incumbents because they've 'lied' to them:

* No ceasefire in Gaza
* About turn by Miliband on drilling for oil, when Labour pinky promised they wouldn't
* Not taxing the rich enough
* Reform UK's threat to their Woke DEI World is not being quelled
* Iran is being bombed
* Israel is being backed by the UK (hence the recent violent protests by Palestine Action)
* Trans people still feel marginalised and disrespected under Labour.

These cretins woke up on July 5th 2024 and thought that Labour would do everything that they wanted but, now that Labour are way worse than the Tories were for the past 14 years, they mentally cannot process it and feel angry, mocked, abandoned, hurt and betrayed.

There is nothing more potentially violent than a Far Left numptie who feels likes this - he or she has nothing to lose at this point, and how dare they be ignored? No, this will not do and any action (however illegal or stupid) is better than inaction.

Like you, I hope that nothing happens but I know what happens when a powder keg goes off and we're edging close to these people pressing the 'fuck it' button.

What happens after that, God only knows.
 
The biggest issue with the benefits system is the fundamental lack of jobs across the UK, and I mean jobs not "jobs". Every single fucking company in the UK is running as lean as possible because either A) they can't afford to hire more or B) they're working by the retarded effectiveness principle where you can just work the same 4 people to death instead of having a team of 8.
We need to do a lot of shit and I wish it was just as simple as "more jobs". Considering every factor is a headache, but just consider one for the time being: minimum wage. When implemented in France and America it was unnecessary but it was more of a gesture of placation to ensure there was a minimum floor for wages; however, companies both big and small were often paying double that amount because they had to be competitive with each other to attract a limited pool of workers I.E. supply/demand.

However increasing globalism and offshoring meant the the average Brit wasn't competing with another Brit for a now decreasing supply of job, he was now was competing against the entire world, and the rest of the world won out in the end because they offered better terms. Chang's government said he would work for £0.20 in 1980 whilst Tommy would only work for £1.30 at a minimum, and that was that. If the global market determined wages still in the West rather than governments, the de-facto minimum wage in the UK would probably be at a 1/3rd it is now, maybe less. We were actually one of the later countries when it came to implementing a minimum wage because we were also one of the last nations to put a left-leaning party in power in response to the unemployment crisis that plagued the 80s and early 90s. Of course Blair implemented one, and then opened the floodgates to immigrants, meaning we'd never get a natural market-driven wage increase again.

That was just low-skilled work. It took a couple decades but now the Indians are coming for high-skilled jobs too thanks to the internet and the mystical power of combining remote work with lying. I've seen a larger business, for some bizarre reason, pay to educate a foreigner remotely predicate on them being more cost effective in the long run rather than hire someone already domestically trained for the role. His name is Vihaan. He's alright. English is better than you would think.

Also: some companies open "ghost" job openings to give the illusion of growth. This isn't actually illegal.
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So we're in an awful middle state of being too expensive for new businesses to rise up but also too cheap that low-skilled work doesn't allow for much in terms of upward mobility, a happy life, and plenty can see that. The lower, apprentice wage (£7.83 an hour) makes you less money per month than UC + Pip, which'd see you getting over £1364 a month minimum contrast to £1252 a month working 40 hours a week. Even at full minimum wage, you have to factor in tax, rent, bills, etcetera - everything the unemployed person gets help with or pays for. I've calculated it, and I've actually be £52 better off if I did fuck-all. (Which I won't do - I need a Greggs budget - but I'm just pointing it out).

This is a problem that has gotten worse over time because our government put the onus on keeping our people employed on the biggest corporations and larger domestic businesses, who also expect our help to make it easier for them at the expense of any potential competitor, which also negatively affects the quality of working for smaller business/corporate entities. I know someone who works for a private care company, who have, since she's worked there, twice re-define and change the length of what is qualified as a "shift" just to trim minutes off call times to cut down on how many hours their workers are actually being paid for. The someone who told me this suspects that, because she's worked there for a long time, she's paid an extra 40p, and they cut down on her hours to hand them off to a fresh employee. She concluded it's because said employee is a "nigger", but my not so dissimilar conclusion is that they can pay that employee 40p less and try to force this person to seek work elsewhere if they deprive them of enough hours. 0-hour contracts enable this practice, but it's also one of those concessions made by the government to enable cost-cutting, which again is taken more often by smaller businesses because they're the ones who can't take as much of a hit as larger entities. When a larger company takes a hit, their product is typically what suffers. When a smaller ones takes a hit, it's their workers.

How to fix (I think):
1. Deport 10 million people. Working or not working, this should have the ratio of jobs to people more in favour of the people. (This ought to have a ton more impacts, like number of consumers, cost of rent, etcetera that should negatively or positively affect the market). This will also take the longest to actually come to fruition, but it's doable via indirect coercion and incentivised self-deportation.

2. Put a cap on benefit increased for unemployment so that UC serves as the "minimum floor" for income whilst working becomes more titillating as a result of an actually appreciable wage; someone on UC should not be living comparably to someone on minimum wage - that's what's happening right this very moment if you're wondering why fewer people are working.

3. Stop Pakis doing the tax loophole of: 1. Open business, run it for a year. 2. "Close business" after a year. 3. Open up as a "new business" under a different family member's name (which they have an abundance of in the wings thanks to immigration) 4. Repeat 1. Their businesses should in turn actually fucking close down for real now and the properties they rent should become more affordable to people who actually want to start a business, something that's not a takeaway place which serves no food, an un-visited garment store, or a barber that never cuts any hair. These also operate as a sort of parallel economy, whose value to the UK is non-existent really, as they don't provide new jobs to natives and too much of what they make is sent back to Pakistan as remittance. (Remember that house I showed earlier in the thread? UK money goes much further than native Pakistani money in Pakistan).

4. Offer to pay training fees for employees on the behalf of smaller businesses so they don't offshore what ought to be a domestic job to somebody abroad, which in turn might help ameliorate some issues with unemployment. (Also if said employee gets the job and remains a committed worker, they may eventually pay back the government's "investment" over time via taxes, so it works out long-term)

5. Prioritise domestic business interests over international corporations. No, I do not give a shit if McDonalds feelings are hurt by this*. If we can cause new businesses to spread like chicken box over the country through temporary tax exemptions, cutting down of expensive administration burdens, the closure of functionally unprofitable businesses to allow new ones to take their place (point 3), and exempting imports of goods from VAT (yes, that gets applied to imports and is functionally identical to a tariff), we can hopefully re-create a competitive UK market as opposed to relying overly much on wealthy international ones to treat us as a charitable donation. The money lost from VAT? Increase corporation tax on companies not based out of the UK - "market privilege tax" or something - thereby making up for lost revenue, forcing them to increasing their prices, and making domestic companies more attractive for customers in the process as alternatives. Their overall costs should be down anyway if there's fewer consumers therefore fewer viable fronts to have open. They might also be forced to close down places they're seeing less profit in allowing for an alternative to take its place. They're an international billion-pound company, they can take the hit. Maybe cut back on stock buybacks or something :smug:

6. Scrap minimum wage so the market can determine the wages. Assuming companies are desperate for workers, they might be eager to pay more. Can be re-introduced at a lower number for peace of mind in the future if need be, once the market has determined competitive pay. Set it lower than what the market offers though, so that they're not forced to raise it, and if they do lower it they just look like a cunt.

I did my best. Am I getting suicided, Truss'd, or mob lynched?


*The "free market" we all love and idolise was in fact a market that was limited to just North America, Western Europe and East-Asia I.E. pre-1980s. It was never a concept tested on a truly international stage and at most just incorporated NATO. It got shit for everyone involved when China offered a regulation-free workforce of hundreds of millions and just extract every ounce of value from wealthier nations via offshoring (Deng Xiaoping caused more long-term damage for Europe than Hitler). Western countries paid the bill for Chinese factories which increased their economy substantially. All this is evidence of is that countries that control their economies from the top can better compete with when every other country in said market that doesn't, which is crazy unfair. Maybe China ought to play by the rest of the world's rules rather than do this half-measure where they can make a select few cities adhere to the free market but then do all they can to position themselves as the most attractive for investment and job placement, even to the detriment of their own citizens - just a thought.

Also at this point in time it seems that the most value companies offer now is, instead of providing an income to get taxed, they just barely keep people off of welfare/benefits to ease some of the burden off of government spending. Otherwise their main goal now is the stock-buyback loop which allows them to infinitely increase their value without actually producing or adding any new value to the market.
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if you want to drive a van or wipe shit off old people's arse, there's going to be 20 jobs going wherever you are. Both of these jobs are hard work so people are just too bone idle to actually do them.
Are you going to tell people to learn to code next? Delivery drivers are not in high demand when it is one of the main jobs for foreigners. I don't remember the last time I got a delivery that wasn't some shade of brown spewing noise pollution from their car speakers.

Those kids aren't there either.
Joke is on them, killing Farage would be the best thing possible for the right wing in Britain. The designated stooge grifter will be gone and someone who actually wants to take over and smash the London bubble instead of joining it would take over.

But I agree, probably nothing will happen this year.
Like him or not Farage is the face of anti-immigration and anti-muslim. If he died you would lose the publics support. He has in the general publics eyes done more for this country than any one. He's Brexit man and this time he'll take charge of the government and bloody well make it happen!

Same way Trump is in the US. You need that cult of personality and Farage has it.
 
As an American I never considered hating the British until I found out that half of you prefer Blur over Oasis.

Oasis isn't very good, but Blur is so unmusical and stupid—I mean compared to shit like the Spice Girls, not fucking King Crimson or something—they're implausible. To this day I doubt their existence.

If anyone who gets any enjoyment from any song of theirs (besides "There's No Other Way," which little retarded girls are allowed to like) were hurled into fire-filled quarry, it would cure all of your political problems.
Blur... "unmusical".??

Raus, mutt, raus.
 
The jobs situation is fucked because it's a multi-pronged issue. Not only do you have Nicolas (30 ans) on £70k per year getting taxed to shit so Pakis can get free housing, but Barry (30 ans) who straight up never managed to get going after the 08 recession. Working minimum wage job to get by in the hope of making it to management level so he could switch careers, only to keep getting pushed aside when promotions came about leading to moving to another industry and starting from the bottom to face the same brick wall.

One of the reasons why people aren't keen on delivery driving or care work is because they know that's it, that's their life. Not a temporary measure to put money on the table until their degree level job kicks in, the moment they apply for their degree level job the employer will take a look at "Carer" and think he's a retard who can't use a computer. Where do you go from carer? Nursing? Good luck getting a job in the NHS when we've imported half of Africa to do a worse job than you could do.

Its shit really to be honest. I lost a professional job and had a toxic relationship that imploded and felt depressed as hell about it a few years ago and I could have easily done the now seeminly standard thing of get on PIP (I even got it without realising after a GP signed me off sick for a month and didn't realise the meeting at the job centre was a capability assessment (so its not 'traumatic' BBC).

Anyway I got a job in a freaking discount store as doing nothing at home sucks and I must preferred a 8 hour shift stacking boxes and dealing with idiots wanting returns for things like opened shower gel tubes. I liked my colleagues there, sure its minimum wage but actually doing something is better than living off bennies forever. I did get back to my professional career a few months later but I didnt disclose the job I had inbetween as a previous job inteview took the piss out it asking why I was working 'beneath my skillset' . I do wonder if that knocks Barry (30 ans) going for jobs.

People also have this obsessive idea that traditional things aren't worth anything due to muh progressiveness. I used to be like that as a typical millennial, but I for reasons that I still can't explain, decided to attend the local church service, got invited for tea with the minister and it was just so alien a person who for their living, just tries to help people non-judgmentally. I get why in the past people used to be way more spiritual and happier. Its something that is really lacking in modern ukay.

I don't generally feel I belong in this country anymore, I live here but I have never set foot in some fried chicken halal slop place that is plaguing everywhere, nor let the Albanian MAFIA give me fades. The fucking Blair and Yank Neolibs have really ruined the west.

On another note, at least in my current job I have been able to slash outsourcing after a lot of pushback. Letting someone with dubious qualifications from some no-name university in India (only about four over there have any international standing) do technical work never works. Sure, they are cheap, but they have a habit of failing to understand what you are asking them, never asking for clarification and producing what they think you meant, which is inevitably wrong.

I was able to hire an apprentice who can do it properly, and what's better we have a local kid a job not some probably fictitious person 4,000 miles away
 
I won't say any more to avoid PL, but I can say that this isn't true if you have half a brain.

Well frankly, not everyone can be an artisan, doctor or skilled engineer. If you don't want immigration then you need the youth to accept that there needs to be van drivers and shit wipers. Otherwise companies will import 10 000 pakis a day to cover the gap. Too many people in England feel they are too good for certain jobs and look down on those who do them, only to turn around and complain about immigration in the next sentence.

I hate this defeatist attitude in this country. 'Oh delivery driving is a ceiling', yeah well it will be mate if you never try. Do well, save up and make good decisions and you can be running your own franchises in 5 years time easily. This is like the class conversation on here the other day, Brits are obsessed with class and what social standing your job grants you. All it does is keep people down in their boxes so they never try to do anything else.

I have retrained twice in my life into a different career, and now I'm going in a third time. As soon as I feel like I hit a ceiling I just side step into something else. At least in America or Australia all sorts of people will do Uber for instance, whereas here if you tell anyone above working class you do Uber you get the middle class wanker stare.
Like I said a decade ago I'd agree with you all day long. Since the rise of the gig economy and zero hours contracts everywhere which have rapidly taken over the lions share of entry/low level jobs since the pandemic, it isn't a case of being smart or "have half a brain", it's so predatory many are just fucked. A growing number of jobs are shit and to fix them we should be able to say they are shit and fix them. Having the entire country on minimum wage zero hours jobs topped up with benefits isn't the way.

Like some zero hours jobs sports direct and such will intermittently give a few weeks of zero hours to force staff into a situation of using up accrued holiday days and/or wipe out savings to keep them trapped. All these "do well, save up, hustle like it's the 90s" sayings don't factor in the very grim reality that household names make lots of money off grinding people down and it's expanding into every workplace it can.

Saying you have retrained 3 times and turning your nose up at even entertaining the idea others might struggle who don't have that same economic mobility you have is just the same as the middle class wanker stare.
 
Anyway I got a job in a freaking discount store as doing nothing at home sucks and I must preferred a 8 hour shift stacking boxes and dealing with idiots wanting returns for things like opened shower gel tubes. I liked my colleagues there, sure its minimum wage but actually doing something is better than living off bennies forever. I did get back to my professional career a few months later but I didnt disclose the job I had inbetween as a previous job inteview took the piss out it asking why I was working 'beneath my skillset' . I do wonder if that knocks Barry (30 ans) going for jobs.
I was thinking earlier about communities and how to self actualize in them. Where can white people meet any more and make friends with like minded people? I was looking at social events around me and I don't want to attend a lot of them because they're in sketchy areas. I don't want to give money to companies who hate me so a lot of avenues like Magic the gathering which used to be hubs of white people are out.

How do you find a woman to have a family with runs along the same lines. You don't want to use internet dating because you know she's going to be an attention whore unless you snap her up the day she signs up and never give her a chance to be influenced. Everyone is so isolated they barely know their neighbours names let alone having relationships and potential families.

All the traditional meeting grounds are gone. Churches, pubs (how did loners meet people in pubs any way?) or village events. No one talks any more and I can't figure out how we can solve it in the current year. I would like to meet more people in my community, start building a larger social network so when shit gets bad there's more people who know me and trust me. Social prepping is the difference between life and death in a collapsing country and the internet has made it obsolete.
 
The lawyer is involved in Nationalist politics as well. Looks like he is looking to go after more of the bastards also.
Good. Sometimes you have to take a castle apart one stone at a time.
Do teenagers ever experience that feeling nowadays ? Of feeling that they have a chance ?
My nephew seems to. Niece as well. They're both highly intelligent and their dad - my otherwise incredibly arrogant and annoying younger brother - seems to have instilled curiosity and a suitable amount of don't-give-a-fuckery in them. They're going places. Probably south America. That's a place, isn't it?
Watch the music video for Vindaloo, I don't think there's a non-white person in it. Unthinkable nowadays.
I counted six. All afro-carribbean. I'm currently suffering toxic nostalgia.
 
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The only thing which would force Starmer out would be something coming out about how much and often he has actively fought to keep absolute vermin in this country. And even then it's a stretch.
We have a saying in the USA about how the only surefire way to get thrown out of office is to get caught with a dead girl or a live boy.

For Starmer I don't think either of those would be quite enough.
even supposed bros like the sikhs
Okay, but the Sikhs are generally chill and come the race war they'll side with you guys if it means they get to go full blender on the Muslims without consequence.
King Charles left visibly stunned as multiple guests arrive at palace wearing Crocs:
Man actively complicit in disrespect towards historical institutions shocked when his own is disrespected.
 
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It really, imo, comes down to : is there a leader, and a party, any a large enough number of people are willing to start a process of mass remigration. Starting with illegals but proceeding on to a large number of legal BAMEs. If there isn't yet, are there people working to bring that critical mass into existence.

At a guess at least 10 million need to go. Those that stay need to be segregated from White society with no voting rights. They will be free to leave if they don't like it.

All of these people came of their own volition because conditions were created that made them want to come. Conditions need to be created that makes them want to leave.

It's that or this country constantly descends into a failed state. Some kind of mix of Zimbabwe and Haiti. It's mass remigration or death imo.

Re: English people won't do certain jobs. It's kinda nonsense really to say so. Sure they won't do them in our economic system that has been undermined and gutted by Neoliberal mass immigration of darkies.

Nor should they want to. The wages and conditions are far worse than they would be and should be without all the darkies. Imo, stuff like minimum wages are the symptom of the disease of mass third-world immigration disease and exist to cool off the effects of mass immigration so the workers don't revolt allowing more brown people to be imported. part of boiling the frog.

The mass immigration of brown people has become an addiction for the economy. If you never smoked tobacco, you never know what it is like to have taken it. You don't miss it and your life is great without it. But once you are hooked, it feels like you cannot go without it. It feels like it isn't possible to even live without it. This is why people say "Our economy cannot function without immigration, we need it". These are the words of an addict.

Now quitting any addictive substance involves withdrawal. There are negative effects that one has to go through. But it is worth it once one is through them. Life is better without the addictive substance. One needs to believe it will be to get there. Same is true with cheap brown labour. How to you get the public and business to accept the withdrawal period of some hard economic times.?

During the withdrawal, the Left and many others, will be crying out about how the economy is being destroyed and it is proof that we should never have started remigration. The media will show you footage of business closing (Of course they will close, with 10 million less people we need 10 million fewer jobs!.

So we need a charismatic leader, who can carry the people through the withdrawal period. He needs to focus the youth. The depressed and disenfranchised youth can be filled with PURPOSE. The nationalistic purpose of removing the BAMEs can carry the people hrough the withdrawal period.

And like with any addiction, once it has got to a certain stage, with Britain is at, it really is go through the withdrawal and quit, or continue to deteriorate and die.

Fixing it is completely doable. Anyone who has quit anything, even smoking, knows that he thought 'oh my God I just can't do this, why even try and quit, this is impossible" is the voice of the addicted part of oneself.

The question is then, when does the white British people hit rock bottom? Rock bottom is of course when you stop digging the hole. How much shit are we willing to put up with? The idea that you have to reach a certain low to quit a substance is nonsense. You go down as far as you are willing.

I quit alcohol when still at a normal drinking level. But I quit cos I could see my drinking steadily ticking up over the years, I saw the effect on other people, and I decided to quit whilst I was ahead. My rock bottom was shallow. Cos I decided to stop digging.

And an addiction (outside of the physical aspect e.g. alcohol) is really a dependency.

One depends on it to unwind, to relax, to cope with the world. Our economy currently depends on cheap brown labour. But just like with alcohol or tobacco or heroin, it doesn't have to depend on it, it just believes it does.. And worse, the dependent thinks it has not choice to depend on it. The truth is you don't need to need it. The need and dependency are created by taking the substance and goes away when you stop taking it.
e.g. take alcohol for anxiety but alcohol causes more anxiety thus necessitating more; take cheap brown labour for native labour shortage but cheap brown labour depresses wages leading to lower birth rates and thus need more brown labour),

As a people we could decide today that his is our rock bottom and we will dig no deeper. The withdrawal is difficult but generally is not as bad as the belief about how hard it will be one has created in one's mind. And it is possible.

But the difference between an individual and his substance dependencies and a group and its dependencies is that a group will require a leader, or a small group of leaders (e.g. a political party) to guide the group. That is the difference between an individual and a group. And it needs to be a leader who can carry people through the exact same thoughts anyone with a substance dependency thinks - that will be too hard, its just not possible, we can never do that, may as well just carry on taking it and die, that its all pointless. These are addict thoughts. The are the thoughts that keep one digging. And digging only leads to death.

Once one has given up something eg. smoking tobacco'; and one starts to feel the benefit one wonders why one didn't do it decades ago. The worst thing about giving up dependencies is one could have done it sooner. The hardest part is the beginning but it rapidly gets easier. But it is always better to start when you did it. I shit post on different social media sites about remigration. I consider it part of the memetic effort. The more people that do it the better. It's remigration or death.

And I think things are going to get much worse and sooner than people think if as a whole white people don't start pushing back, even doing stuff like having conversation with friends and family about not using black and brown businesses wherever possible.

Don't know if this post is too dark (and long lmao) but i'm personally optimistic. Even if it gets worse in the next 5 years, I think it will just swing the pendulum back even harder. I think it will get bad enough conditions-wise, whilst we still have the numerical advantage for us to take it all back just by finally collectively decided to do so.

The realization one must have is that from where we are both paths are hard. One will be the hard struggle of remigration. One will be the struggle of descent into a zimbabwe-haiti hell hole. So my answer to those who say that remigration will be hard and all the difficulties, we are going to have that anyway. Both paths from here are hard, but one (carry on as we are) gets worse and worse and worse till it is hell. The second starts off feeling initially harder (maybe riots, depression etc) but if people hold their will, everything will get better and better until we have a nation so wonderful we wonder why we waited to long to sort it out.
 
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