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What if the debt is in the hundreds of trillions in unfunded pension liabilities like social security?
The pensioners have a problem.

Accepting anything other than immediate financial compensation for work rendered is a sucker's move

Edit: on reflection useful(health) bennies are also fine
 
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Elon is mad again
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“The country may be flooded with dog eating and shitting meets and Haitians but at least we cut the spending”
Dumb nigger needs to just accept deporations are getting funded and his handouts are getting cut. Debt ceiling is made up bullshit and he knows it but still posts because he really really wants his infinite migrants.
 
If your $1,000 in debt, you have a problem, if your 100 billion in debt, the bank has a problem, if your north of 35 trillion in debt, who has the problem?
The national debt makes this question almost impossible to answer because it doesn't work the way normal debt does. It's basically just a way for the fed to plan to spend money in the future, since everything they do is long term.

The vast majority of the debt is owed internally to US taxpayers, corporations, and in some cases the government owing other parts of the government. These are the same people and corporations that the government taxes to pay these debts right back to them. So if debtholders "call in" this debt guess how the government pays for it? By taxing those very same people. The money never went anywhere and never ended up anywhere.
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Since the fed can print money and make laws, buying things by just handing people cash doesn't work. They have to give people a "stake" in the nation's well being because that gives people actual leverage over the fed, like selling stocks.

None of this is to say it's impossible for the national debt to be too high like a lot of Keynesian worshippers believe but the idea that the country is trillions "in the hole" and we all have to climb our way out isn't even just misleading but outright false. That debt clock thing that calculated "this is how much your family owes" is bullshit. You don't owe squat, the government owes you.

So to answer the question, everybody owes everybody else so nobody has a problem. It's just a bullshit way to decide what leverage different people have over the future. You might just say the debt is fake and gay.

Edit: I am starting wonder how much Elon understands this, most politicians lie through their teeth about how it works to get votes, but I'm starting to think Elon might actually be so dense he thinks we owe all of that to China.
 
The funny thing is, if that bill gave Elon billions for his EV subsidies, he'd be praising it and going along with it.
Solar and battery subsidies. He doesn't need EV subsidies anymore because his factories are all paid off, but solar panels and their battery storage are fundamentally unviable without subsidies.

Every Elon tweet about solar follows this pattern:
  1. Elon says solar is amazing and bitches about subsidies going away.
  2. Anon asks "if solar is so amazing, why does it need subsidies?"
  3. Elon reply-guy says "oil and gas get subsidies too, are you in favor of cutting those?"
  4. Anon says "yes, and by the way, what subsidies do oil and gas get?"
  5. Conversation dies.
 
President Trump just signed an Executive Order terminating the Syria sanctions program to support the country’s path to stability and peace.

On one hand, fuck muslims and everything about them, especially the way they're treating christians there. On the other hand, fuck china and this is going to piss them off something fierce so top kek.

Come to think of it this has been a shitty year for china's "axis of upheaval" or whatever it was called. Iran is buck broken, all of its proxies are buck broken, russia just hit an embarrassing 3rd year trying to take ukraine, assad's regime is gone, north korean soldiers in russia got addicted to porn and the myanmar rebels have been making small gains.

The china network's only win lately has been that pakistan had a better showing in the recent shit flinging contest, but even that's a win of indians over other indians which is barely worth mentioning.

So many examples of nobody coming to anybody else's back... Maybe I was wrong to think this but in the 2010s it felt like if any of these individual instances went hot, then the entire "fuck america" squad would come together and start ww3. That has clearly turned out to be complete bullshit.
 
Solar and battery subsidies. He doesn't need EV subsidies anymore because his factories are all paid off, but solar panels and their battery storage are fundamentally unviable without subsidies.
The only subsidies I want is for nuclear. Everything else can sink or swim like DSP thrown into a pool.
 
Since the fed can print money and make laws, buying things by just handing people cash doesn't work. They have to give people a "stake" in the nation's well being because that gives people actual leverage over the fed, like selling stocks.
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I love that the idea of FISCAL POLICY is now a "debatable" point of discussion.
So to answer the question, everybody owes everybody else so nobody has a problem. It's just a bullshit way to decide what leverage different people have over the future. You might just say the debt is fake and gay.
You got a little to cute with your own reasoning to realize how big of a logical hole you walked over. The debt is as real as the money is my friend, thats the rub. People loose faith that the debt is real its a VERY short trip to "Wait whats backing this piece of paper again?"

When the only thing holding up the world monetary structure is faith it becomes difficult to change any part of it short of divine intervention lest the people loose faith and cease to believe.
 
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Massie in trouble among Republican Primary voters as he seeks reelection Poll Results Kentucky04 GOP with write up

Kissimmee, Florida – With just under a year until the 2026 Republican Primary, incumbent

Congressman Thomas Massie appears to be in for a rough road ahead. When asked if voters

plan to vote to reelect Massie regardless of who runs against him, only 19% indicate support for

Massie while 47% indicate support for a challenger. Introducing the hypothetical of a Trump

endorsement of a challenger, Massie’s support falls to 14% and those supporting a challenger

rises to 59%.

As of the time the poll was in the field, there is one candidate, Registered Nurse Nicole Lee

Ethington, filed to challenge Massie in the Republican primary. In a head-to-head poll, Massie

trails Ethington 31%-19% with a majority of voters undecided. Massie’s 19% support matches

the pre-Trump endorsement ballot test against an unnamed opponent. With Massie continuing

to hit that 19% number, Ethington is likely the only one with significant room to grow in support

as her share of the vote is below the total number of voters that say they will at least “probably”

vote for a challenger to Massie.

The Republican primary electorate gives Massie a 23% favorable rating while 62% rate him as

unfavorable. At the same time, President Trump has an 89% favorable rating and only 9%

unfavorable. Further, 70% of primary voters consider themselves to be “MAGA Republicans.

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Man, I hate reruns.

Yes, a political party that cares about "the people". And by people, he means Pajeets he can import to work for pennies on the dollar.
At this point you need to ask yourself this
What is the bigger threat to Americans
1.dangrous immigrants that see Americans as evil and will ethically rape them into submission
2.spending
Both of these are bad yes, but the alternative is this
We get a spending bill that slight increases the debt but in return we half ass border and immigrantion policy thus achieving nothing and now one is happy.
 
The vast majority of the debt is owed internally to US taxpayers
Cool.

I don't care about Dr. Robotnik's magic money machine. What are they gonna do about it if it fails? I'll shoot them. Or the government will.

Then the magic number will magic itself to a lower number because none of it exists anyway. Magic is fucking awesome.
 
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