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man i remember the dooming in this thread and the previous version of it when Biden won, talking about how the debt was going to cause the country to collapse and how we needed Trump back to help fix the economy and reduce the debt (something he inflated in his first term)
closing the border and getting rid of the millions of people who shouldn't be here is a far more pressing matter than the national debt we'll already never pay off anyway. If you don't do that the democrats will continue importing a billion 3rd worlders and not only destroy the country demographically but turn the debt into overdrive when they have a permanent super majority. I don't know what's so difficult to understand about this.
 
I really hate Team Sports politics. Trump "won" by tightening his grip on the GOP's nutsack to get a bill most of them disagreed with passed. People are going to lose their jobs and healthcare, America's debt became $4 Trillion dollars more impossible to pay off, and it's going to be our problem to suffer through and desperately try and solve because the boomers who got us in this mess in the first place are on track to die or leave office before this bill takes full effect.
you sound like an illegal, or some other strain of mentally handicapped subhuman.
 
honestly thats funny enough im happy to go with it


but no I mean, and please try and follow me here, hitler did his best to get rid of ALL the jews dident he? like fucker used all the resources of europe to wipe them out

AND GUESS WHAT? idk if u been to Europe but there is still fucking jews

so I share those imagines to illustrate how hard it is to remove that many people even when you use "unscrupulous" methods

we could have trains running day and night and it will still take decades IF its possible witch hsiotry has never shown its possible to move even a fraction of that many people, those that have tried like turkey and china with a FRACTION of the numbers (kurds/armernians and Uyghurs respectively) deal with such HUGE expenses just to ATTEMPT to suppress the issue.

Guess what even if you could deport all 12 gorillian of them magically you just bought yourself a first rate border crisis, even assuming your the most heartless of heartless fuck, the sheer plague that would be wrought on our southern states by the 10 million carcasses 10 feet beyond the border would be BIBLICAL, then the bugs would come then after that the stench would make thousands of square miles uninhabitable for years.
Nigga, cope, seethe, the brown slaves are going home, technology has advanced since 1945. LEARN ANOTHER FUCKING WAR.
 
(something he inflated in his first term)
Especially when COVID came.He printed billions of dollars to keep the Stock market inflated, and i am pretty sure that's why Jerome does not want to lower interest rates until there is sure stability
Not defending the bill because I have no clue what version passed but realistically has there ever been a realistic chance at paying off our debt?
Extremely unlikely,at the end of the day the US only has to say "No" and then they do not have to pay a dime.But we do have to get it down for confidence, at this point the only reason we aren't in a recession of some sort is because we have the military might and the petro-dollar.
People are going to lose their jobs and healthcare
Healthcare? Maybe .... but how will they lose their jobs? and what are the jobs that would be lost? I heard that excuse being used as a reason why the IRS and other goverment bodies needed to be expanded forever, i do not necessarily agree with all the cuts the orange man is making but i do not think that's a strong argument.We also have the H1B problem that trump seems to sidestep.
 
This bill was the moment where House and Senate Republicans had to decide if they served their constituents, or if they served Donald Trump. The answer, of course, is that they're unprincipled spineless cowardly faggots who serve Donald Trump. It doesn't matter, the bulk of their constituents are so fucking stupid that they'll vote for the same people fucking them over when the next election rolls around as long as Trump tells them to.

They know how unpopular this bill is, that's why the medicaid cuts kick in on December 31st 2026, it's a last desperate bit of trickery to try and save as many Republican seats as possible in next year's midterms, and then use the economic fallout of this bill over the next decade to blame inevitably shitty economy on the Democrat that's going to replace Trump in the next election cycle.

This cycle has been going on since the fucking 90s.
>Republicans inflate the debt ceiling to benefit their rich buddies and fuck over the poor,
>Americans realize they've put their hands on a burning hot stove and elect a Democrat to clean up their mess,
>Democrats clean up a decent amount of mess without making too much noise,
>the media gets bored and the voters tune out,
>the left starts to pick itself apart over momentary pet causes,
>Americans decide to put their hand on the hot stove again,
>fuck themselves over for a generation,

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You know what Neil. YES. They DO serve Trump. THE RIGHTFUL RULER OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. FUCK YOU.
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God Bless America! We Fucking owned the stupid niggery LIBS.
 
Any good place to read a rundown on the version that actually passed

Seems like a lot of the stuff we've been talking about here. List made from a bunch of places.
  • Additional tax breaks for Boomers (which will bankrupt social security, etc faster)
  • Cuts to EV funding
  • Food stamps and Medicaid will have tighter restrictions
  • Raising the standard deduction
  • Making permanent corp and individual tax breaks from earlier
  • Fossil fuels get money
  • Rural hospital funding
  • Defunding Planned Parenthood
  • Tranny meds not covered by Medicaid
  • No AI moratorium
 
Are you being kicked off Medicaid?
I'm very lucky to be able to afford my own healthcare via my employer. Millions of Americans are not as privileged. I shouldn't need to be inconvenienced by something personally to give a shit about it.
but realistically has there ever been a realistic chance at paying off our debt?
Why make the problem worse? Isn't the Republican party supposed to be the "party of financial responsibility?" Meanwhile every decade I've been alive, Democrats have proven to be the actual fiscally conservative party. Republicans just whine about "financial responsibility" whenever the Dems try and use federal funding to help the poor.
 
We get it, we get it, you faggot leftists got your shit kicked in, and you want to let us know just how bad your sprained asshole is.
The sad part is they'd have a lot more fun shitposting with us, but they actively choose to doom and be miserable. They don't even have principles to stand by, since they abandon them as soon as it's convenient.
 
You know what Neil. YES. They DO serve Trump. THE RIGHTFUL RULER OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. FUCK YOU.
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God Bless America! We Fucking owned the stupid niggery LIBS.
At least Trump proves that when the Republic finally falls we have at least a small chance at having an awesome Emperor from within our own gene pool.

Manifest Americana.
 
I'm very lucky to be able to afford my own healthcare via my employer. Millions of Americans are not as privileged. I shouldn't need to be inconvenienced by something personally to give a shit about it.
Medicaid sucks, subsized obamacare for a silver or gold plan is infinitily better. Only ghetto doctors have ever dealt with medicaid.

There's no reason to have both ACA and Medicaid at the same time, that's insane.

Also, Biden spoke up (lulz) on this


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Why make the problem worse? Isn't the Republican party supposed to be the "party of financial responsibility?" Meanwhile every decade I've been alive, Democrats have proven to be the actual fiscally conservative party. Republicans just whine about "financial responsibility" whenever the Dems try and use federal funding to help the poor.
Because to make the problem better requires highly unpopular measures, no one wants the music to stop while they are in charge. It’s a tough situation. I think a lot of the party of fiscal responsibility shit is just a holdover for Reagan-bush era. I think for better or for worse that’s over.
 
100% Our current system is overloaded with administrative middle men that exist purely to extract profit while providing nothing to patients or providers. See: Pharmacy Benefit Managers.
It’s also regulated from top to bottom. Can’t deny transition surgery if you’re an insurance company for example. Profit margins are also legislated by law.

Of course another question entirely is: What would you do with all the people in the industry who work for PBMs, billing, etc etc.?
 
At least Trump proves that when the Republic finally falls we have at least a small chance at having an awesome Emperor from within our own gene pool.

Manifest Americana.
America will never fucking fall. Long may Old Glory wave. Besides, we already have a God Emperor. Trump will be talked about for the next 1000 years.
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I can't wait for the fireworks tomorrow. Literally lmao.
 
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