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Should be a wild four years.

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Roosevelt was a literal bear in a human form. Trump is more like super American kino capitalist personified.
Its my firm belief, one shared with Roosevelt actually, that recreational violence in a gentlemanly and sporting matter is a deeply American, deeply human, concept that we need to get back to.
But that’s a whole other topic.
 
Why are niggers in here unironically arguing for making it easier for turd worlders to come in here le hecking legally so that they can leech off the prosperity of whites? I didn’t support Trump so that the Brazilification of this country becomes legal, I supported Trump to stop it entirely and preserve and/or rebuild our constitutional republic, high standard of living, and high trust society through retaining and strengthening a White majority.
Um no sweaty, MAGA was always about LEGAL immigration and LEGALLY replacing white people in America. Trust the plan.
 
Which one of those people was on a SpaceX rocket?
That isn't what your asked? You said A man.
OK
Do you think Nu-NASA has a better chance of making it to the moon or mars? How far has the Orion program gotten that NASA has been dumping billions in to for the last 20 years?
 
Okay, let's do this--deaths from NASA (that we know about):

Apollo 1
Challenger
Columbia

Miracle near miss:
Apollo 13

Intentional abandonment:
Space Station--reminder Elon had to go get them.

And those are just the accidents that involved people.

In your breathless attempt to BTFO Elon you could have taken a moment and picked something sensical. There's lots to hit him with recently.
There have been 22 Nasa deaths and 0 spacex. Everything is unmanned for starship by the time were even talking about manned starship missions Mars would theoretically already have had many many unmanned missions to Mars and some base level of infrastructure already there.
 
No, obviously. Nobody will ever put a man on Mars and bring him home alive and healthy. SpaceX hasn't even put a man on the moon. It never will.
Why not? There's nothing stopping them technically and they have the money. They have other priorities right now. I didn't know Dearmoon was canceled tho.


On February 27, 2017, SpaceX announced that they were planning to fly two space tourists on a free-return trajectory around the Moon, now known to be billionaire Yusaku Maezawa, and one friend.[7] This mission, which would have launched in late 2018, was planned to use the Crew Dragon capsule already developed under contract for NASA's Commercial Crew Program and launched via a Falcon Heavy rocket.[8] As well as being a source of income for the company, any mission would serve as technology development for SpaceX's further plans to colonize Mars.[9]

At the time of the 2017 announcement, Crew Dragon was still under development and the Falcon Heavy had yet to fly. Industry analysts noted that the schedule proposed by SpaceX might be too ambitious, as the capsule was expected to need modifications to handle differences in flight profile between the proposed lunar flight and its main use for crew transfer to space stations orbiting Earth.[10]

In February 2018, SpaceX announced it no longer had plans to certify the Falcon Heavy for human spaceflight and that lunar missions would be flown on Starship (then called BFR[broken anchor]).[3][11] Starship is expected to have a pressurized volume of 1,000 m3 (35,000 cu ft), large common areas, central storage, a galley, and a solar storm shelter.[12] Then, on 14 September 2018, SpaceX announced that the previously contracted passenger would be launched aboard Starship to fly by the Moon in 2023.[13][14]

The project was unilaterally cancelled by Maezawa in May 2024. Starship development had fallen significantly behind the original SpaceX aspirational date for the flight in 2023—with the lunar flight likely delayed to the 2030s—and Maezawa's net worth had also halved since the time when the DearMoon venture was announced in 2018.[5]
 
I am the guy that wants every single illegal gone, I want birthright citizenship overturned and I think the entire visa system should be scrapped. I want ZERO immigration to the us for a generation 100 YEARS or more. All that said, I think if you serve in the military for a full hitch (4 years active, 4 reserve) you should be considered a full citizen and you can stay. (You can't come to my house and fuck my sister though)
Fixed that for you!
 
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Brownies moment. Next 10 years, these ideals will be more mainstream and supported
I wonder if non-white people would change their minds if they realized that the same academic "hate speech" people would turn on them in an instant if they were accused of a fake sex crime.

Remember: believe all women includes Carolyn Bryant Donham.
 
You think you show up in Denmark or Poland or Germany illegally, they’ll just go: “NO PROBLEMO BROWN MAN! HELP YOURSELF TO SOME GIBS AND YOUR CHOICE OF WHITE WOMEN!”
You're... not current on European Europoor politics are you? I don't know off the top of my head for the other two countries, but that sounds about right for Germany...
 
Why are niggers in here unironically arguing for making it easier for turd worlders to come in here le hecking legally so that they can leech off the prosperity of whites? I didn’t support Trump so that the Brazilification of this country becomes legal, I supported Trump to stop it entirely and preserve and/or rebuild our constitutional republic, high standard of living, and high trust society through retaining and strengthening a White majority.
Two reasons:
1. "Perfect is the enemy of good." Stop illegals first, then legal ones can be dealt with too - not in a LARPy way where """implications""" carry what I truly mean, no, I just mean making it actually harder than it already is and putting number caps if need be. Incentivised self-deportations might be a non-starter though.

2. "A chain is only as strong as its weakest link", is my thinking on it.
I don't think there's a single mainstream politician in America who calls for the lowering of legal immigration outright in America. Certain nuances and channels getting cut off? Certainly. Illegal immigration? Certainly. But all immigration full stop? I don't think so. Because a politician isn't pursuing it, there's nobody to carry its flag and so beside somebody getting elected to prominence and making it an actual issue Americans can get behind, nobody is going to throw their whole weight behind something with no political representation (yet). Trump has generally expressed anti-illegal sentiments but I don't think he's expressed as any vitriol for legal immigrants.

As loathe as some might be to admit, there isn't a single corporation or business really interested in it, and so pursuing it is a non-starter as they will almost certainly lobby to prevent any such measures being taken. And on an ideological level, liberalism/neo-liberalism/neo-conservativism has a stranglehold over the economy, which argues the only way to stop corporate offshoring and thus keep jobs in the country is to bring the cheap labour and keep it cheap instead of having them go abroad and taking the jobs with them to get it. There's a crap-ton of other factors and reasons why immigration is considered a necessity to these types but yeah, I think hoping a politician will pivot to outright anti-immigration sentiments full stop would be unlikely, and an anti-immigration politician will unlikely to rise up if higher ranking members of the party don't want it.

TLDR: 1. "We'll do legal immigration after illegal immigration." or 2. "Nobody is pushing for that at the moment so it's not worth talking about."
 
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