Victor Markhoff / Ana Victoria Markhoff / vvictorman_uel - Powerchair faker pooner, has every illness, allergic to Krebs cycle, bed mayo enjoyer, kicked out of house and mental hospital, constant ebeggar, applesauce heiress paid to yeet her teets

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Medfags, what’s the possibility she ends up in the psych ward lol. Like what’s the threshold for obvious bullshit? They already seem to be on to her antics and she seems to be ramping up. I cannot believe she’s griping about not being able to quiz her doctor to assess their level of knowledge makes me want to go crack open the munchie general thread for more antics like this, how insane.

I think the odds are very low, actually.

1. She's not presenting an acute suicidal danger to herself, or homicidal threat to others.
2. She is not in psychosis, hallucinating and suffering delusions.
3. She is not so mentally afflicted as to be incapable of feeding herself or protecting herself. (E-begging counts as a form of both.)

Those are the criteria for an involuntary admit. She meets none. She won't consent to voluntary. I'm not even sure it's appropriate as "being a spoiled stupid fucking idiot" isn't the kind of mental condition appropriately addressed through inpatient care.

 

[prolific_mango]

Vicky used the last of her strength and oxygens to keep live-tweeting, thank fucking god. Live-tweeting MG crises during a hospital stay is usually the top priority for anyone with myasthenia gravis or breathing issues.

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Just wanted to point out the munchie trend of being in the hospital over a holiday lol

she scored a double-bonus, it being the holiday and her being there on resident day or whatever they call the first day for new doctors

 

[Greedy Fly]

I’ve seen disability fetishes (mostly auto-amputee fetishes; the furry who froze off his hands with liquid nitrogen and tried to pass it off as an accident springs to mind) but I don’t think I’ve seen a male who fetishizes occupying the sick role.

You mean like good ol' Numberwang? Are you sure you want to see that?

 

[rusty shackleford 1]

I think the odds are very low, actually.

1. She's not presenting an acute suicidal danger to herself, or homicidal threat to others.
2. She is not in psychosis, hallucinating and suffering delusions.
3. She is not so mentally afflicted as to be incapable of feeding herself or protecting herself. (E-begging counts as a form of both.)

Those are the criteria for an involuntary admit. She meets none. She won't consent to voluntary. I'm not even sure it's appropriate as "being a spoiled stupid fucking idiot" isn't the kind of mental condition appropriately addressed through inpatient care.

So they just basically have to tolerate her theatrical breathing and pretend passing out? The ascending and descending grunts? The flat refusal to communicate in anyway? We saw how terrible she was at acting in those videos, she’s that disingenuous, off putting, and awkward when she’s at her best. I can’t imagine how cringe her performance is when she’s on the spot and getting increasingly desperate to have the medical staff take her seriously.

 

[StoneColdSteveAutism]

You mean like good ol' Numberwang? Are you sure you want to see that?

Yeah, male munchies exist but 100% of them are mostly concerned about their penis, medically, and would like you to think about it and look at it and touch it. Medically, of course.

 

[eat your greens]

I bet they moved her closer to the nurses station so it’s harder for her to fake being breathless.

Again: if I was allegedly nearing intubation level of respiratory distress, I don’t think I’d be live tweeting. Remember peak COVID? People might be tweeting before bipap to say they were scared and then it was radio silence. There is a point where you will conserve every bit of physical and mental energy you can.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

So they just basically have to tolerate her theatrical breathing and pretend passing out? The ascending and descending grunts? The flat refusal to communicate in anyway? We saw how terrible she was at acting in those videos, she’s that disingenuous, off putting, and awkward when she’s at her best. I can’t imagine how cringe her performance is when she’s on the spot and getting increasingly desperate to have the medical staff take her seriously.

Yeah pretty much, until they can document enough to CYA in case she sues down the road. Then they can cut her loose. I know folks want to see her admitted to psych but it's medically indefensible, for the reasons listed above, and also because the treatment offered on inpatient psych would not even do anything about whatever the hell her real problem is. It's for stabilizing people with real illnesses- getting enough antipsychotics, mood stabilizers, tranquilizers, antidepressants flowing that someone can hobble along on the outside, and enough social work referral balls rolling that they are less likely to bounce right back in. None of that would help her. She would be an active hindrance to the healing of her ward mates. God forbid she might LIKE it and figure out how to get herself 72 hour'ed every time she needs attention. And those beds are scarce as hell. Someone with an actual treatable mental illness is sitting in the back of that hospital's ED on day three of a wait for one. Guaranteed- no matter what hospital, city, state, or month.

 

[Aunt Carol]

So they just basically have to tolerate her theatrical breathing and pretend passing out? The ascending and descending grunts? The flat refusal to communicate in anyway? We saw how terrible she was at acting in those videos, she’s that disingenuous, off putting, and awkward when she’s at her best.

Hospital employees are strongly discouraged from telling patients they're a liar verbatim. That's why there's so much staff turnover.

But that heroic "collapse in my bathroom" is legally a "fall" so that's why she's by the desk, not because there's any concern her condition is unstable. Not her medical condition, anyway. She's there so it's quicker to detect and intervene on her dramatics.

Floor staff and the hospitalist are very aware she's faking; any sympathetic staffer Vickie posts about just has a great poker face. She's a "complicated discharge" now, as evidenced by talking to the manager, and it'll take some higher-ups to get a multidisciplinary plan to get her gone.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Floor staff and the hospitalist are very aware she's faking; any sympathetic staffer Vickie posts about just has a great poker face. She's a "complicated discharge" now, as evidenced by talking to the manager, and it'll take some higher-ups to get a multidisciplinary plan to get her gone.

Who was that woman we were discussing the other day, old lady in Washington, who got trespassed from her entire local health system? I think it was one of Vick's followers, actually, might have been in this thread. Anyhow that's in our gal's future. They are just piling up the evidence and the write-ups. The build up is frustrating for the staff I'm sure, but the payoff will be delicious for us all.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

Wonder what she did to get her sats to read in the 80s (probably 89 because she loves to exaggerate). Cold water on the hands until her circulation got shitty?

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Wonder what she did to get her sats to read in the 80s (probably 89 because she loves to exaggerate). Cold water on the hands until her circulation got shitty?

Of all the equipment in a hospital to screw around with, those sensors may be one of the easiest. They are thwarted by temperature, circulation cut off by anything, nail polish, movement, being slightly off-center, moon phases and bad constellations...

 

[Aunt Carol]

Wonder what she did to get her sats to read in the 80s (probably 89 because she loves to exaggerate). Cold water on the hands until her circulation got shitty?

Consciously hold breath/hypoventilate, mess with flexible, disposable oximeter enough to get scary sat alarm but not long enough for people to notice that sat comes with a poor signal quality.

Of all the equipment in a hospital to screw around with, those sensors may be one of the easiest. They are thwarted by temperature, circulation cut off by anything, nail polish, movement, being slightly off-center, moon phases and bad constellations...

Age of sensor too. Flexible wire dies quickly, same as an 8-foot phone charging cable.

 

[Randomrando]

Come on Vicky, go big or go home

Tracheotomy! Imagine dragging a ventilator around! And Rose taught us you don't even have to use it all the time! Give your muscles a break, punch a hole in your trachea!

TRACH TRACH TRACH

 

[sarna]

Who was that woman we were discussing the other day, old lady in Washington, who got trespassed from her entire local health system? I think it was one of Vick's followers, actually, might have been in this thread.

Sure was. She made it easy for them, though -- netstalking her doctors and throwing violent tantrums during clinic visits. Vicky is a gigantic irritant but seems careful not to escalate to threats.

 

[behindyourightnow]

Come on Vicky, go big or go home

Tracheotomy! Imagine dragging a ventilator around! And Rose taught us you don't even have to use it all the time! Give your muscles a break, punch a hole in your trachea!

TRACH TRACH TRACH

She wants to lie around all day and catered to. A tracheotomy alone won't do the trick. Demand an iron lung, Vicky.

 

[AfghanBlue]

And the oximeter is a fun toy to play with, that requires much less Zen mastery than controlling your own heartbeat.

Spoiler: supplemental oxygen discharge complication vagueified anecdote

There was a horrible man who also happened to be homeless (lived in his van) and treated hospital stays for his chronicity as though they were little spa weekends.

One admission he realized that he couldn't be discharged to homeless if he needed continuous supplemental oxygen; the O2 companies were fine with travel tanks but wouldn't deliver a J tank to a van, and there was no electricity to run a concentrator. What followed was the most frustrating oxygen weaning of all time, because he would just hold his breath or hypoventilate whenever anyone turned his oxygen down. It took some ninja skills to do it while he was asleep, and at one point the oxygen was visibly running at 1L with a hose attached to it... but not the cannula that was actually on him, which was sitting there as a placebo.

The same man was also the reason they started locking the bathrooms at one specific grocery store location.

I remember years ago, a nurse friend demonstrating on me some surprisingly painful manuovres - rubbing her knuckles on my sternum, and grabbing /squeezing my trapezius muscle - tests to "make sure someone is really unconscious". Both sound like nowt but are surprisingly painful. Enough to get an unexpected yelp out of you.
Why would you ever have to do that, I asked?
People pretend, she said, you have no idea the kind of nonsense people pull.

Lmao at Vicky thinking she's smooth "persuading" them to not trust the meter and in fact count her deliberately slowed breaths instead. Another sure and definite win after AdVoCaTiNg to get her mask sign up.

I hate these cunts and I hate the hospital actually giving her room to perform it. I've been the wrong side of getting accused of drug seeking for what turned out to be slipped discs, because there was a retarded error so I wasn't appearing in the system.
It is the most upsetting shit ever to be in incredible pain, scared, and getting effectively called a liar, actively engaging in a hysterical and shameless performance. And yet other places will let people like Vicky impose on various clinical staffs patience, wearing away the goodwill and benefit of the doubt that could be of enormous benefit to some poor fucker who is actually in trouble.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

I hate these cunts and I hate the hospital actually giving her room to perform it. I've been the wrong side of getting accused of drug seeking for what turned out to be slipped discs, because there was a retarded error so I wasn't appearing in the system.

Someone I know had a kidney stone three weeks after moving cross country. Got treated like a drug seeker even though the only drug he was asking for was ketorolac (not exactly a recreational time, there) and was being actively berated about how they can't help you if you won't be honest about what's wrong...and then he literally pissed out the stone in front of them. The note in the file helped for next time.

It feels like everyone either has a story like that, or is close to someone who does. Yet somehow folks like Vicki can repeat visit ERs until they give her a bed for a week or two. Vicki doesn't think about it, of course, but some intern having his first experience seeing factitious disorder in action in his very first week on the job is going to become one of those skeptical asshole doctors.

It can't be overstated how many people's lives Vicki makes worse, in ways both direct and indirect. And I don't think she makes literally anyone's life better, even in the most subjective or abusive relationship "I can't live with or without her" way. Even Dave Muscato's got bandmates and a cat who might feel sad if he died. Becky Gerber's got a kid and a couple of men who would be sad even if they might be better off long-term without her around. But Vicki? Vicki has made herself so unlovable that there's no one to miss her when she finally takes the LARP too far (which I believe she will, eventually). She goes to the hospital just for the feeling that someone cares about her, even if the only reason they care is that they're worried about lawsuits.

 

[Kerry Benton]

Supposedly suffocating to death but still retweeting Gaza fundraisers, SJW garbage, and Cars memes

 

[OrSoHelpMe]

I wonder if she’ll end up like Paige (sad walrus) with only paid caregivers to hang out with as she slowly rots (like mayo in a bed) or if being rich and American means she’ll go a different route.

Don’t forget, she wants to be kept alive even when there’s no hope of being anything but vegetative, because of spite, and because she fantasizes about being lovingly cared for by her community.

 

[Dropa5pack]

Vicky isn’t even that unique in terms of what an ER will deal with drunks, addicts, people in active psychosis, homeless, with bad health from being on the street, and even the occasional person who actually is experiencing an emergency. They’ll just humor her, and work on discharging her. I’m sure they have looked at her records, and how she presents and they know exactly what she is.