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I heard he has a custom weighted Baldo on his sack.
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Nick on Pretty Anti-Social podcast. Timestamped transcript will be in five parts. The last few minutes are missing.
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She's gonna be mad.
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Hey.
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Hey, Nick.
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She'll be back in a minute.
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Yeah, that's fine.
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Good to see you.
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Good to see you.
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Happy fourth and stuff.
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Yeah, you too.
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I hope you had a lot of fun.
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I'm a fun guy.
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I'm a ton of fun.
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So I've heard that I've heard.
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But yeah, I've been I've been in my because I had a lot of time with the family.
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We did a bunch of you know, the Fourth of July stuff parade fireworks.
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I think we are going to do more after after I'm done on here, but I wanted to come and
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talk about this HRO thing, which is just it's marvelous.
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I can't like I the most annoying part is that it is serious.
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So you know, it's it's complete bullshit, but it's a sort of damn cleaze hanging over
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your head because if you do anything wrong, they can call the cops and and you can get
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arrested.
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36 hour arrest or something stupid if you get if you get tagged for it, right.
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But but yeah, I mean, he's going to he's going to have a nice awakening.
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I guess he'll learn the legal system pretty quickly, I think on the 15th because his his
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idea of taking out a restraining order is is ridiculous in so many ways.
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One of the big ones is that he did it the day after his hearing, right.
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And a lot of people said it's it's kind of retaliatory or it kind of seems retaliatory.
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And one of the things I want to point out is that he was talking prior to his hearing
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about how he had had an epiphany and he had been at work writing something high.
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She's muted.
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She has no idea.
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But OK, hi, how's it going?
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Good.
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Sorry, I was listening and I was like, OK, yeah, so he you know, it's one thing that
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he filed this, but he had his epiphany and he says specifically leading up to his hearing
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that he was writing something and that the Internet wasn't going to like it.
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He had worked on something and everybody assumed it was his defense defendant letter.
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But I think we know now what his epiphany was and what he was working on.
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He was working on writing an HRO that he filed the next day.
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And his epiphany was he was going to put everything to bed and walk away.
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And so it seems like his idea was to utilize an HRO to instigate a mutual silence.
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But that's retaliatory.
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It's planned out and it's absolutely a way to get back at the husband of his victim.
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And the judge is going to learn about that.
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That's the funny thing about these HROs is that like they get granted pretty broadly
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because they don't want to, you know, they don't want someone to get stabbed.
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So they grant them that way.
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It's like, well, there was an HRO like so we knew something was going on.
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They grant them a lot.
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But once you have to defend them, you know, you have to bring in evidence of all this
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stuff.
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And so he's going to have to go before a court and talk about how I've done all the things
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that I've done and how that amounts to how that could possibly amount to stalking.
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And if he gets to not stalking, but harassment, and if he gets to the level of harassment,
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then we get to answer.
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We may not even get to answer, you know, on the HRO itself.
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But I think he's about to find out about rule nine.
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Rule nine is a rule of general practice in Minnesota against frivolous litigation.
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And typically rule nine requires that you have a grace period where you allow someone
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to withdraw the offending document within 21 days.
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But the judge doesn't have to give that grace period if there's any, you know, good cause
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not to do that.
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But the good cause on this is you can't wait 21 days to withdraw a frivolous HRO.
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But I mean, you know, my liberty has been restricted by this HRO.
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I have to abide by there are things I can't say.
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My First Amendment is mildly impacted.
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I mean, I'm not making a big deal out of this.
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But when the court takes away liberty, you have to have facts to back it up.
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And he doesn't.
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And it's going to be really, really ugly.
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I'm going to ask the court to make him pay for it, because, you know, I have a lawyer.
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I think he might be out of money, because I don't know why he doesn't have a lawyer
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to do this.
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He should have.
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A lawyer would have told him not to do this.
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Exactly.
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Do you think he's going to...
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Go ahead.
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No, go ahead.
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I was just going to say, do you actually think he's going to show up on the 15th?
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Yes.
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If he doesn't show up, he's really, really dumb.
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That would be a terrible move for him.
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Right.
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So he has this problem.
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He's engaged, like I am, right?
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I have the same problem.
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I'm engaged with the courts on multiple things.
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I have my criminal case, which is now spurring into a quasi-civil case with the body cam
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footage.
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I have my ongoing litigation with Monograph that's now like two years old or whatever.
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I have possible pending litigation and some other stuff.
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I'm in the court system, so is he.
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He has his criminal case and now he's asking the court for stuff.
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So if you start asking the court for stuff and you're within its jurisdiction already
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and you don't show up for things, it doesn't go well, especially when you ask.
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So if he doesn't show up and he's forced me to prepare for a hearing that he had no intention
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of going to, that would be bad for him.
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That would be not a good thing at all.
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Another thing I want to point out, and this is funny because I don't think this made it
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into the video supercut, but I was thinking about this today.
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And I have no problem saying this up front.
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I know that they say don't forecast your moves, but when you have a fucking sledgehammer and
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a rail spike is sitting in front of you, you can forecast your moves all day because the
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rail spike isn't moving.
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It's a sledgehammer swinging.
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I'll just flat out say that when Kayla and I got back from Los Angeles for Dick Masterson's
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wedding, it was a Monday night and we went out for karaoke at a local bar and someone,
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one of his fans, sent him a message live on air that we were at the karaoke bar.
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Now a sensible person in general, especially one who's terrified of big monstrous muscle-y
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me, a sensible person would just ignore that message while they were live on air.
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But he decided to broadcast the location of Kayla and I publicly by saying that Nick's
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out at this bar in Willmar doing karaoke.
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This is something that he did just in the past couple of months.
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This is just one of the myriad examples.
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He has no problem broadcasting the location of Kayla and I who are public and who are,
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as we're told by him and his audience, we're reviled in our community, so putting that
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location out actually does put us in some level of distress.
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This is the person who's trying to take out an HRO.
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I've never done this at all and he's claimed that I went to some business or something
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hoping that he's there.
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As I laid out on Patrick's show after the court hearing, when we go to businesses in
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St. Cloud, we have to make sure he's not there.
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If he is there and we go in, he has to leave and we don't want to do that.
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If he's there with his kids, we just don't ever want to see him.
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We don't ever want to see him.
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The first time I have seen him in, I think since April 30th of last year, I think that
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was the last time I saw him physically.
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This is the first time I even saw him since then.
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The idea that there's any sort of harassment or intimidation or whatever for me is absolutely
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ludicrous.
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He didn't even see me in the courtroom.
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He didn't see me that day at all.
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I wasn't standing with the other people.
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He's flat out lying to the court.
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It's going to be a bloodbath.
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I don't know what else to describe it.
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The same thing he mentions in the HRO, a continual harassment by way of text or phone calls.
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And I'm thinking, well, that should be easy enough to prove that is untrue.
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He said the last, he's broadcast proudly the last message exchange between us.
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The one where I said the world will be a better place if you kill yourself, you should strongly
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consider it or whatever, which some people think I shouldn't have said that, but everybody's
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entitled to their opinion.
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He's shown the text.
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It's a real text.
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I have no reason to deny it.
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And his response was, okay, addict, and he blocked me, according to him.
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My Signal app says he's not on Signal, which he had deleted.
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He deleted Signal sometime shortly after that, in April, I think April 13th.
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April 12th or 13th, he deleted Signal.
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And then as far as text messages go, I haven't sent him any text messages since that day.
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So I don't reach out and talk to him.
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I've never attempted to reach out and talk to him.
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I have nothing to say to him.
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So that's it.
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I don't know.
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That's another one.
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He's going to have to pony up, pony up the evidence of this.
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And if he tries to manufacture a call log or something, which I do not think he will
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do.
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I think he is incompetently filing something because he doesn't believe that this is real.
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He doesn't believe that this is reality.
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And he's now playing in the arena of the most real thing ever, which is the judicial system.
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He's like, no, it's just the internet, bro.
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This is just to get you to stop talking.
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No, this is not.
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This is a restraining order that you don't deserve.
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It's wild because he was the one that first started talking about all of this to begin
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with.
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And now he's like trying to turn it around like, oh, wait, no, no, it wasn't me who was
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saying anything or started this from the beginning.
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It's all your fault.
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Right.
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He's going to have to do that.
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And someone, Josie in the chat has a good point.
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And I apologize.
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This is not an intentional miss.
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I do.
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I did forget.
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I did super chat, Aaron, super chat him back in September.
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I think it was September 27th, if I remember right.
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I had been the 26th.
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I can check because I have my message exchange with April exactly when I did it because it
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was funny.
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And the super chat was you looked you looked into her eyes and smiled as you ate it like
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So if he wants to go to court and say he was he's sending me threatening, harassing messages,
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his last thing is a super chat, which I was I was mostly talking to his audience.
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But I'm happy to I'm happy to explain that super chat to the judge.
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I have no problem doing it.
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Maybe he says he thinks it was November.
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Wait, hold on.
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I thought that he's like, I got it.
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I do.
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I do have it.
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So hold on.
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Oh, wait, I pressed the wrong button for hold on.
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Here we go.
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Let's see.
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It was in our year in review show.
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We have it right here.
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It was November 11th of 2024 and says Nick Van from Seals to Chat added this because
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Patrick said that's my birthday and he was like, what a great birthday gift.
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So also 11 11 is that's April's favorite date.
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So 11 11.
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Yeah.
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That should be easy to remember.
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Nick.
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I want to I want to say the April law that has nothing to do with me.
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The law part of it.
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She never told me what it meant, but we looked up the law of numbers and angels and stuff.
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I was like, I bet it's this law 11 11.
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You know, we looked into it.
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Who knows what it is.
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But I remember when we first saw it, we were like, yeah, it's like, you know, it's like
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I have the text messages.
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I don't want to release any more of her messages.
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She gave me the permission on the one thing, but like there's there's a little summary
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from her on how like this has nothing to do with you.
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I think it's really funny that people think so, but it's a personal thing for me.
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And I was like, I don't care.
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I just I'm laughing.
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So I that was what during her people like thought she was losing it doing Twitter tirade.
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She was having a blast.
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It was really funny.
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We were laughing quite a bit.
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But am I able to read part of this HRO like you can read all of it?
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I don't know.
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I'm not a lawyer.
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I don't want to fuck you up.
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I didn't release it.
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It was released by Minnesota Public Records and it's amazing.
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HROs are typically typically hard to find because they're harassment things.
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So they're not they're not confidential, but they tend to be filed to where you can
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only access them if you have the specific file number and if you are at an access terminal.
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Now to the to the credit of Minnesota Public Records, I believe they got the file number
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from me because I showed the you know, I put the screenshot or I put the picture up of
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the caption.
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So I did release like I don't mind.
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I don't care that they release this, but it's not easy to get.
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But yes, you can read it.
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It's public.
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It's a it's a publicly accessible document.
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You just have to.
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It's annoying to do.
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I just didn't know if I could do it with you on stream because and I'm not going to read
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through all of it.
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I just had this one little section that I thought was interesting and I'd like to get your take
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on it.
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I can't talk about I'll just say I can't talk about it.
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Fair enough.
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Fair enough.
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I just I didn't want to trip you up.
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OK, so he says I cannot live a normal life, do my daily work without worrying if he is
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going to invent some new threat or make up some new charge that I am not responsible
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for. Ever since his arrest for failing cocaine possession and child endangerment and my
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cooperation with police and his access of my Google account, I have been worried he could
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come to my house and cause trouble, especially while my children at home.
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Now, my question is this in the very first sentence, he says I cannot live a normal life,
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do my daily work without worrying if he's going to invent some new threat or make up
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some new charge that I'm not responsible for.
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That almost sounds like he's pointing the finger back at you over this case with Kayla.
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It sounds like he's right.
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Yes, 100 percent.
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Yes, I think so.
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And I think, you know, like I don't think he processed what happened at that hearing
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very well, because at that hearing he was informed that not like they're taking all
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of the reports that come in, they're taking them and they're listening, not just the
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ones from me. Like I think I said it on Melton's show at first, we didn't have access
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to the person who investigates release condition violations.
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There's a person that's their job is to take it all.
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And so it was after the plea hearing, we got the information.
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They said, if you have found any release violations during any of the time and you
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believe them to have happened, please send them directly to this person.
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Prior to that, we had we were instructed to make police reports, which I hate, like
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because you have to explain all this context every time you make the police report and
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they don't really get it.
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And it's like, OK, he's not allowed to say anything directly or indirectly, like nothing
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at all. And they're like, well, what did he say?
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I'm like, well, this thing. Well, how's that?
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How's that? It's like, OK, well, it means this thing, this thing, this thing.
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This is a direct. This is an indirect reference.
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And his audience knows it.
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And all the like thousands of people online know this.
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You guys don't because you're police officers and you're busy with really other stuff.
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But but, you know, like this in context when you have the context and you then have to
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like lay out the context and put all these clips together.
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And so I had to do that three times.
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And they ultimately like they just didn't act on it at the time, but they had all those
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reports. So once we got that person's name, I'm like, here are the ICR numbers for all
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of them. Plus, here's all the other stuff.
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And and so, yeah, he thinks that I did this to him.
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One of the frustrating things about that, I'm very happy for April that she's moved
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away from all of this. I am.
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But one of the very frustrating things is not having her around to help like verify
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some of this stuff. Right.
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Because she, Kayla and I were all together in the same room when when I found out about
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about the picture and like she saw she saw Kayla's reaction the same time I did.
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And that was not that wasn't me going, we need to take advantage of this.
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This was this is me going, I'm really sorry.
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Like, I don't I don't know what else to say.
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What do you want to do? You know, and she said, you know, this is what do we like?
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What can we do? And I said, well, it's a crime.
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So you can file a police report, but you have to file the police report if you want to do
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that. And that's up to you. It's you're the victim, you know.
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And so it was entirely up to her.
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And anybody this entire time, he's made it out like it's some strategic revenge.
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And I'll have to wait until probably July 16th to address that, because, you know, like
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I can't address him directly.
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But it was never it was never about revenge.
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Actually, I didn't I didn't want to take any action against him until my case was
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completely done, because he's a state witness.
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And I even before I did anything, people were talking about witness intimidation,
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witness. And it's like, so I didn't want to take out a restraining order.
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I didn't want to file a civil suit.
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I didn't want to do any of those things because they all look like witness tampering.
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And my goal was to just wait it out, get my case taken care of.
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And then we deal with him as necessary.
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And then, you know, and since Kayla had the same type of case that I had the same
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charges, we were waiting.
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We were waiting there, too.
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It's much harder for me to get an HRO.
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Obviously, like I'm a public figure, people get to talk about me and say kind of
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whatever they want. It's really tough to do anything about it, including stopping
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them. But but yeah, so now now I have to wait to address that more directly.
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But his his theory is is so weird.
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It. I can't figure out where he is mentally anymore, because doing this filing
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this against me without a lawyer was a really, really bad plan.
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Doesn't look good, considering that this whole time when it comes to Kayla's case,
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he's he has been blaming it all on you.
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Yes. So it's it's like you two are in tandem when it comes to his case.
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So it does look like a retaliatory type of, shall I say, lawfare?
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Yeah, interesting.
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So the amazing thing about him is and I want to go back to what you were what you
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had on screen a minute ago as part of this, he's he's he's a fucking overhead
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projector from like grade school, right?
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Like everything just goes upside down and backwards up on up onto the wall.
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And if you pull up that thing first, he I'm glad you mentioned lawfare because it
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reminded me like he mentions lawfare and then engages in it like the next day.
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Yes. And in paragraph nine, I think it was we're looking at I can't first of all,
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I cannot live a normal life, do my daily work to his credit.
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I believe he's just using that as the legal term of art, because that's the
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legal standard for harassment.
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But notice, invent some new threat or make up some new charge.
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The person inventing threats and charges is has been him the entire like he's the
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one who's done it.
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He keeps saying like he brings up the cocaine possession, child endangerment.
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Those are real charges.
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But he talks about me giving my daughter cocaine or he talks about me, you know,
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doing this Google stuff.
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He talks about all of these things.
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He's invented all of these charges.
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And it's wild because he just even when he's writing something down, he just
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cannot not project.
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And yeah, I've been worried to come to my house and cause trouble.
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The other thing is like that last sentence is so detached logically from the rest of
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the paragraph. It's like, but I already like I've been to your house a whole
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bunch and like you've been to my house.
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We know where each other live.
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And so like nothing in that paragraph suggests that I would somehow like be
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newly able to go to his house or have some new motive to do it.
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Right. It's just wild.
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But especially while his children are home.
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I don't like I don't know their schedule.
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I didn't know their schedule when they were coming to my house.
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I'm like, oh, you got you got kids.
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Great. Especially rich coming from someone who when invited to different places,
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you know, challenges people to a boxing match instead, he has physically
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challenged half a dozen people or more, more me specifically when he challenged
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the five people to fight at once, his main mission was that I had to be one
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of the five. That's the first thing.
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The other thing he said multiple times is that, well, fighting me would be
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ridiculous because he'd literally kill me so easily and he doesn't want to do
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that. Like he doesn't want to kill anybody.
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He's the weirdest person.
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Why would you say any of this stuff?
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But even like the first sentence, even though like it's it's to hold the, I
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guess, was it the legal term of harassment saying that he can't live his
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normal life day to day or whatever, or do his daily work?
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It's just like, do we not have seven hours a day of daily work?
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How do you not do your work?
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You've done it like you don't miss any days.
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No, to be fair, that was the way he was making his money at his daily work was
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talking mad shit about you and your family.
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Well, yeah, that's true.
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But not only that, but he kept continued talking about how he goes and golfs all
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the time, how he's doing all these extracurricular things outside of his
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home. So anybody with actually look and see what he's been talking about and
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what he says and even picture he'll send, he'll put up pictures on X of him at
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the golf course, too, just to give an extra evidence of him not being home.
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Yep.
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And it's always coming up basis for him to, like he says, he gets done with
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the show, he turns it off and his life is better than ever.
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His life is perfection.
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In fact, why would he, why would he want to ruin anything at all?
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And it's like, wait, you, you can't function in your daily life, but it's
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the best it's ever been.
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Okay.
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Sure.
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This is, this one's fun.
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Yeah.
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Tell me about that.
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Can you?
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I knew I'm like, wow.
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Let's see.
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So respondent use the victim's personal information without consent to
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invite, encourage or solicit a third party to engage in a sexual act with
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the victim as follows.
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And then he just puts a date range down and it's like, well, I know.
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And it's only till November of 2024, which wait, it's, this is only after the
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relationship, so this doesn't make any sense at all.
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It's also the day before you sent in that chat.
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So I don't know.
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Like I, I have no idea.
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This, this is the, you know, the barrel of monkey surprises.
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I can't wait to find out what, um, what sexual act I solicited him
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to engage in a third party with.
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It's like, well, I couldn't find any buyers.
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So I don't know.
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Like the markets are
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like, uh, like subtly confirming that the texts from April were true.
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I don't know.
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The date range is very confusing because I mean, I, I had contact with him twice
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after this, uh, April 18th and April 30th.
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And that's it.
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Like, yes, I sent in the super chat, but it wasn't really like a conversation
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or a contact in the way that I would normally think of them.
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I wouldn't recommend me sending a super chat right now.
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Obviously, uh, but just in general, it's like, I most, I mostly went on
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your channel and told a joke using Google's, you know, publicly available
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way to, to engage with the show.
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It wasn't, it wasn't really a joke.
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It was a story, but you get the gist of it.
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So like, I cannot, I cannot figure this, this one out at all.
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It's really, it's interesting to me.
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I don't know if the judge is even going to get to asking him about this stuff.
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Right.
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And this is probably banking on that, you know, the responding continues
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to make threats publicly, which I've never threatened him at all.
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Um, I've, I've said that, uh, there may be a lawsuit coming and there may be
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like, I'm that, but that's not a threat, but you're, you're privileged
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to use legal action unless you're openly using it in a harassing manner.
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And, um, I'm very, very serious and I have quite a few valid claims, um,
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all of which, you know, I have to consult with my attorney, uh, and
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consult with my family and like how I want to deal with that.
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Um, but, uh, I've never threatened him in any way.
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Um, I think, I think the closest I ever came was, um, Camelot and I were talking
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and we were simply saying, um, trying to box five people in a row is insane.
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Doesn't matter who you are.
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And it's like, I think I said, you might die.
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Like you might die doing that because you just, it's, you're going to have
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a fresh person every, you know, every couple of minutes and they're just
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going to be pounding on you and, and it's going to wear you down.
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Like, but, uh, but that wasn't me threatening him.
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That was just an assessment of how dumb it is to challenge five
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people to a fight in a row.
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Uh, and I've never encouraged anyone to harass him or contact him or watch
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a show or not watch a show.
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I like, I don't talk about any of that.
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So, uh, this is, this is wild.
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If I hadn't reset my Google passwords, he would still have unauthorized
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access to my online activity.
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Well, having unauthorized access and using unauthorized
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access are two different things.
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He, uh, had logged into my computer.
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That's true.
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He logged in, but it just was sitting there.
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It's not like, like you, so you open up your Chrome browser and it's
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got your multiple things, right?
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Like your multiple accounts.
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So I did this sensible thing and I clicked on mine.
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That's how I use Chrome.
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And so it's like, he would still have access to his online activity.
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Um, I didn't need access to his online activity to know about his proclivities.
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Um, I was very close friends with his wife.
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Like I, we've talked about all sorts of things about him.
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Um, and, and, uh, lots of them are very funny.
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Um, he's read my emails and then harass the recipients of those emails.
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No, no.
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Um, it was not hard to figure out Alyssa was, uh, sending a whole
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bunch of information to Aaron.
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Like that was plainly apparent.
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Um, Alyssa hates me.
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I'll reserve my comments about her, uh, for the sake of, you
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know, y'all show that they don't belong here.
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But, uh, Alyssa has hated me for a very long time.
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And that being said, um, I didn't harass her at all.
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Uh, I did send her a message that basically said, wow, uh, sending, sending
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out, uh, all this stuff is really gay.
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She also, I mean, like, so Alyssa at the same time was going on Kiwi
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farms and dumped, uh, all of our DMS, except she deleted all of them.
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She deleted all of her DMS in the, in the dump.
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You can see that there's, uh, if you go through the logs, uh, there's not much,
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I don't remember much being in there that like, uh, this is a person I just
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talked to a lot and, um, and we've tried to be friends with until all
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of a sudden, like she wasn't, but there's, um, there are a couple replies in there
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where you can see that I've replied to a message that no longer exists.
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And you notice just a dearth of comments from her, like, as if I was just
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barraging her with these, uh, long messages that seem to be
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reacting to something else.
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So like seeing that was, was funny, like noticing, oh, you deleted, you
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deleted all the messages that you sent.
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That's cool.
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But, um, but yeah, so figuring out that, that she was involved there and figuring
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out that fat Sean was involved there wasn't hard either.
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He didn't make much of a secret of it.
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And, uh, yeah, his hatred for me is like his hatred for dieting properly.
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So look, let's say he doesn't show up for this hearing at all.
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Then what?
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Um, likely the judge will just throw it out.
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Yeah.
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Uh, the judge will just dismiss, like you don't show up to, for your,
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your hearing, you can't lay a fact.
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The, so once an HRO is challenged, um, uh, I won't go into long legal explanation,
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but once an HRO is challenged, it now becomes a question of, are there facts?
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If it is there a factual basis that's sufficient?
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Well, you don't have facts on the record.
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The moment they're challenged by the other party.
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So, um, you know, now it's adversarial and those facts, uh, are not admitted.
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But now the judge has to determine what the factual basis is based on the two
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parties giving their sides of the story.
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So if you don't have one to give their factual basis, then there isn't one.
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And the burden is on the petitioner to make the claim, uh, sufficient
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claim to have the HRO issued.
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So if he doesn't show up, uh, the, the judge can't, the judge can't accept it.
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The judge would have to cancel out the HRO and just dismiss it.
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And then what will happen is, uh, we'll file our motion for frivolous litigation,
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especially citing that he didn't show up.
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Um, you know, because again, uh, I have to pay to defend this and, uh, he
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knows it's frivolous.
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He had like any reasonable person who looks at this situation goes, there's no
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way there's unless, unless he had alleged some private message and put in some
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like private texts or something where I was, uh, where I was like bothering him
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or sending him messages or something like that, or calling him like four times a
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day or something like that, you know, that could be like, if I called him every
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day during his show made his phone buzz, uh, distract him that that could get
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there, right, but none of those facts exist.
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So, um, so yeah, it's just, there's, there's just nothing for this.
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It's, it's, it's, and anyone with a reasonable look at it goes, yeah, there's
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no way, so, uh, the frivolity should be obvious.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Well, this, if he doesn't show up or if this, um, HRO gets thrown out because he
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doesn't have sufficient evidence or whatever for it to stick, would that have
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any negative bearing on his case that he has going on right now when it comes to,
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um, Kayla?
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Well, in my opinion, it's a violation, um, of the release conditions.
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Um, he's been much better lately, uh, about not mentioning, not mentioning
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anything, however, I do, I'm going to, I'm going to say he violated within
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three minutes of his first show back.
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He specifically pointed, he said, I can't talk about this stuff, but, um,
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meme copium cam and it's like, you can't do that.
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Like, I don't know why this isn't getting through from the court,
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but he can't do that.
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He can't direct people to where someone else might be saying derogatory
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statements about, and he, he did that within three minutes.
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And so, um, you know, I'm sorry.
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Uh, he, I believe he needs to be held to the, his release conditions.
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And so, you know, I haven't made that report just yet because I didn't
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want to report just one thing, but the frivolity of this, um, the statements
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that he makes inside the, um, inside the document as well, like they indicate
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how much this is about Kayla and not about me.
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Yeah.
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Um, you know, he says I organize people to go to a court hearing or, or like,
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which I didn't organize shit.
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Like I brought one person to that hearing and I brought her into a room
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because she needs to be protected from you.
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Like that's, that's what I did.
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And so, um, I, I didn't have anything to do with anybody coming.
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If anybody asked me, Hey, should I go to this hearing?
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I say, you're grown up.
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Like you make your own decisions.
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I don't, I don't ever tell anybody that that was the funny thing when
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they went after Ethan Ralph, right?
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I know they questioned him about me and stuff like that.
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And the, all of the messages between Ralph is, Hey man, do you mind if I
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like do this?
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And I said, I will not answer that question.
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Like you, you know, I'm not saying people should come or not come, uh, you
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know, go to a hearing or not go to a hearing, you make your own decisions.
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That's fine.
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I can't do anything about it.
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And I don't want to.
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And, uh, they're the very specific reason obviously is cause I don't want to be
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responsible for the actions that follow.
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And, uh, you know, Ralph, uh, he streamed that one hearing or whatever.
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And that, that led to legal trouble for him.
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I didn't want to be involved.
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I didn't know he was going to do that, but I didn't want to be
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involved in anything like that.
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He didn't get that.
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Uh, he didn't get the zoom link from me.
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I didn't even watch the hearing.
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We were busy that day.
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It's the whole, even timing of the filing of this HRO is insane.
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You had all this time between April 11th and what?
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June 16th and you picked the day after.
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Shit didn't go the way that you wanted to in your own case.
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If you were that worried and concerned for your health and safety and that of
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your minor children, why would you let it go on until that point?
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It's just ridiculous.
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It's like, if that was a true concern of yours, that would have happened way
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back last April or May or whenever.
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He's got another big problem.
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So his suggestion, I guess his answer to that would probably be something like,
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well, until he showed up at the courthouse, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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But again, he couldn't have possibly seen me at the courthouse.
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He, he didn't, he did not turn around and look at the gallery while I was in
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the courtroom and he didn't, he wasn't able to see us because we, like I said,
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we were in a conference room, Kayla and I were alone.
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And so he can't suggest that I was like participating in any of this, uh, in any
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of this behavior or filming him or doing anything because I wasn't and, and
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there's zero evidence of it.
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If there were, it would, it would have to, I mean, it would, I didn't, there
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just couldn't be, it didn't happen.
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So there's no, uh, there's no pictures, there's no video of anything.
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I think I might show up on Melton's video for about one second as, um, Kayla and I
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got out of the elevator and then we, you know, shuffled off into the room.
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So, um, not quite sure, uh, where he thinks this is going, but, but this is,
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this is someone who has, uh, you know, talked about, uh, breathlessly all of my
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hearings, um, has supported people, uh, collecting my body cam footage, um,
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specifically he's talked about how it was proper for people to go and, uh, and
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like try and film us in public and, and, which it is fine to try and film us in
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public and it's just as fine for us to try and avoid that, but, um, you know,
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he's, he said all of these things.
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Everything that's in his HRO is a reflection of things that he's done or
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supported and it's, it's marvelous to see when, when you do it, when you're doing
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a case study of him and you go, I've never met someone who can so thoroughly
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distort their reality to be the opposite of what it is.
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It's fascinating.
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It's scary as hell.
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It is.
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Well, cause you know, even reading some of that stuff in that HRO, it makes
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me even think about like the stuff that he even did to that Heather lady from
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laser one Oh three, when it comes to like the different types of, for as it
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sending the third parties out there to get to her and, um, just like different
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things that he would say to incite other people to almost gather, not in just like
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a physical space, but also in like the digital space of like a Facebook and to
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surround her comments and like put things in there and just like, and also a
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lot of the stuff that he was talking about could have been attributed to
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Melton and not you.
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Yeah.
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And, um, you know, for the record, I don't think Melton, I don't think Melton
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has done anything legally wrong, um, at all.
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And some people might question his morality, his ethics, that's fine.
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People can question him all day.
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I don't care.
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Um, but I don't think he's done anything legally wrong, but yes, uh, it's, it's
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wild because, um, he certainly has done, uh, far more than I have in regards to
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regards to this person who harasses me every day, every single day, just about
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he's, like I said, he's, he's been a little bit better, um, over this past
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4th of July weekend, I just, I have a feeling that veneers is going to crack.
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I just, he's not demonstrated an ability to keep it up.
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Um, you know, and, uh, but I never asked him to not talk about me.
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Um, all I've, all I've ever wanted was for him to abide by the restrictions
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imposed by the court, which says that he cannot harass, uh, defame, demean,
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uh, denigrate his victim any further.
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Like he can't do it anymore.
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And, uh, for whatever reason, he just cannot be, um, the adults in the room
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and, and say, okay, I can just not talk about this subject.
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Like that's it.
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That's, that's the only thing I know.
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Uh, I don't want him to stop talking.
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I don't want him to cancel his show.
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I don't want him to, you know, do anything els
She's gonna be mad.
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Hey.
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Hey, Nick.
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She'll be back in a minute.
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Yeah, that's fine.
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Good to see you.
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Good to see you.
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Happy fourth and stuff.
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Yeah, you too.
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I hope you had a lot of fun.
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I'm a fun guy.
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I'm a ton of fun.
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So I've heard that I've heard.
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But yeah, I've been I've been in my because I had a lot of time with the family.
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We did a bunch of you know, the Fourth of July stuff parade fireworks.
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I think we are going to do more after after I'm done on here, but I wanted to come and
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talk about this HRO thing, which is just it's marvelous.
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I can't like I the most annoying part is that it is serious.
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So you know, it's it's complete bullshit, but it's a sort of damn cleaze hanging over
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your head because if you do anything wrong, they can call the cops and and you can get
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arrested.
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36 hour arrest or something stupid if you get if you get tagged for it, right.
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But but yeah, I mean, he's going to he's going to have a nice awakening.
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I guess he'll learn the legal system pretty quickly, I think on the 15th because his his
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idea of taking out a restraining order is is ridiculous in so many ways.
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One of the big ones is that he did it the day after his hearing, right.
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And a lot of people said it's it's kind of retaliatory or it kind of seems retaliatory.
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And one of the things I want to point out is that he was talking prior to his hearing
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about how he had had an epiphany and he had been at work writing something high.
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She's muted.
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She has no idea.
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But OK, hi, how's it going?
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Good.
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Sorry, I was listening and I was like, OK, yeah, so he you know, it's one thing that
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he filed this, but he had his epiphany and he says specifically leading up to his hearing
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that he was writing something and that the Internet wasn't going to like it.
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He had worked on something and everybody assumed it was his defense defendant letter.
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But I think we know now what his epiphany was and what he was working on.
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He was working on writing an HRO that he filed the next day.
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And his epiphany was he was going to put everything to bed and walk away.
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And so it seems like his idea was to utilize an HRO to instigate a mutual silence.
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But that's retaliatory.
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It's planned out and it's absolutely a way to get back at the husband of his victim.
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And the judge is going to learn about that.
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That's the funny thing about these HROs is that like they get granted pretty broadly
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because they don't want to, you know, they don't want someone to get stabbed.
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So they grant them that way.
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It's like, well, there was an HRO like so we knew something was going on.
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They grant them a lot.
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But once you have to defend them, you know, you have to bring in evidence of all this
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stuff.
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And so he's going to have to go before a court and talk about how I've done all the things
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that I've done and how that amounts to how that could possibly amount to stalking.
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And if he gets to not stalking, but harassment, and if he gets to the level of harassment,
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then we get to answer.
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We may not even get to answer, you know, on the HRO itself.
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But I think he's about to find out about rule nine.
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Rule nine is a rule of general practice in Minnesota against frivolous litigation.
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And typically rule nine requires that you have a grace period where you allow someone
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to withdraw the offending document within 21 days.
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But the judge doesn't have to give that grace period if there's any, you know, good cause
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not to do that.
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But the good cause on this is you can't wait 21 days to withdraw a frivolous HRO.
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But I mean, you know, my liberty has been restricted by this HRO.
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I have to abide by there are things I can't say.
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My First Amendment is mildly impacted.
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I mean, I'm not making a big deal out of this.
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But when the court takes away liberty, you have to have facts to back it up.
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And he doesn't.
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And it's going to be really, really ugly.
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I'm going to ask the court to make him pay for it, because, you know, I have a lawyer.
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I think he might be out of money, because I don't know why he doesn't have a lawyer
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to do this.
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He should have.
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A lawyer would have told him not to do this.
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Exactly.
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Do you think he's going to...
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Go ahead.
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No, go ahead.
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I was just going to say, do you actually think he's going to show up on the 15th?
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Yes.
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If he doesn't show up, he's really, really dumb.
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That would be a terrible move for him.
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Right.
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So he has this problem.
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He's engaged, like I am, right?
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I have the same problem.
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I'm engaged with the courts on multiple things.
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I have my criminal case, which is now spurring into a quasi-civil case with the body cam
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footage.
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I have my ongoing litigation with Monograph that's now like two years old or whatever.
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I have possible pending litigation and some other stuff.
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I'm in the court system, so is he.
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He has his criminal case and now he's asking the court for stuff.
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So if you start asking the court for stuff and you're within its jurisdiction already
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and you don't show up for things, it doesn't go well, especially when you ask.
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So if he doesn't show up and he's forced me to prepare for a hearing that he had no intention
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of going to, that would be bad for him.
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That would be not a good thing at all.
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Another thing I want to point out, and this is funny because I don't think this made it
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into the video supercut, but I was thinking about this today.
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And I have no problem saying this up front.
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I know that they say don't forecast your moves, but when you have a fucking sledgehammer and
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a rail spike is sitting in front of you, you can forecast your moves all day because the
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rail spike isn't moving.
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It's a sledgehammer swinging.
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I'll just flat out say that when Kayla and I got back from Los Angeles for Dick Masterson's
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wedding, it was a Monday night and we went out for karaoke at a local bar and someone,
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one of his fans, sent him a message live on air that we were at the karaoke bar.
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Now a sensible person in general, especially one who's terrified of big monstrous muscle-y
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me, a sensible person would just ignore that message while they were live on air.
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But he decided to broadcast the location of Kayla and I publicly by saying that Nick's
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out at this bar in Willmar doing karaoke.
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This is something that he did just in the past couple of months.
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This is just one of the myriad examples.
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He has no problem broadcasting the location of Kayla and I who are public and who are,
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as we're told by him and his audience, we're reviled in our community, so putting that
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location out actually does put us in some level of distress.
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This is the person who's trying to take out an HRO.
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I've never done this at all and he's claimed that I went to some business or something
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hoping that he's there.
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As I laid out on Patrick's show after the court hearing, when we go to businesses in
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St. Cloud, we have to make sure he's not there.
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If he is there and we go in, he has to leave and we don't want to do that.
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If he's there with his kids, we just don't ever want to see him.
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We don't ever want to see him.
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The first time I have seen him in, I think since April 30th of last year, I think that
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was the last time I saw him physically.
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This is the first time I even saw him since then.
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The idea that there's any sort of harassment or intimidation or whatever for me is absolutely
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ludicrous.
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He didn't even see me in the courtroom.
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He didn't see me that day at all.
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I wasn't standing with the other people.
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He's flat out lying to the court.
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It's going to be a bloodbath.
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I don't know what else to describe it.
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The same thing he mentions in the HRO, a continual harassment by way of text or phone calls.
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And I'm thinking, well, that should be easy enough to prove that is untrue.
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He said the last, he's broadcast proudly the last message exchange between us.
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The one where I said the world will be a better place if you kill yourself, you should strongly
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consider it or whatever, which some people think I shouldn't have said that, but everybody's
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entitled to their opinion.
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He's shown the text.
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It's a real text.
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I have no reason to deny it.
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And his response was, okay, addict, and he blocked me, according to him.
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My Signal app says he's not on Signal, which he had deleted.
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He deleted Signal sometime shortly after that, in April, I think April 13th.
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April 12th or 13th, he deleted Signal.
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And then as far as text messages go, I haven't sent him any text messages since that day.
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So I don't reach out and talk to him.
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I've never attempted to reach out and talk to him.
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I have nothing to say to him.
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So that's it.
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I don't know.
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That's another one.
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He's going to have to pony up, pony up the evidence of this.
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And if he tries to manufacture a call log or something, which I do not think he will
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do.
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I think he is incompetently filing something because he doesn't believe that this is real.
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He doesn't believe that this is reality.
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And he's now playing in the arena of the most real thing ever, which is the judicial system.
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He's like, no, it's just the internet, bro.
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This is just to get you to stop talking.
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No, this is not.
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This is a restraining order that you don't deserve.
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It's wild because he was the one that first started talking about all of this to begin
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with.
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And now he's like trying to turn it around like, oh, wait, no, no, it wasn't me who was
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saying anything or started this from the beginning.
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It's all your fault.
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Right.
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He's going to have to do that.
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And someone, Josie in the chat has a good point.
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And I apologize.
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This is not an intentional miss.
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I do.
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I did forget.
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I did super chat, Aaron, super chat him back in September.
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I think it was September 27th, if I remember right.
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I had been the 26th.
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I can check because I have my message exchange with April exactly when I did it because it
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was funny.
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And the super chat was you looked you looked into her eyes and smiled as you ate it like
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So if he wants to go to court and say he was he's sending me threatening, harassing messages,
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his last thing is a super chat, which I was I was mostly talking to his audience.
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But I'm happy to I'm happy to explain that super chat to the judge.
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I have no problem doing it.
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Maybe he says he thinks it was November.
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Wait, hold on.
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I thought that he's like, I got it.
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I do.
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I do have it.
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So hold on.
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Oh, wait, I pressed the wrong button for hold on.
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Here we go.
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Let's see.
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It was in our year in review show.
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We have it right here.
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It was November 11th of 2024 and says Nick Van from Seals to Chat added this because
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Patrick said that's my birthday and he was like, what a great birthday gift.
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So also 11 11 is that's April's favorite date.
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So 11 11.
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Yeah.
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That should be easy to remember.
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Nick.
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I want to I want to say the April law that has nothing to do with me.
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The law part of it.
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She never told me what it meant, but we looked up the law of numbers and angels and stuff.
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I was like, I bet it's this law 11 11.
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You know, we looked into it.
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Who knows what it is.
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But I remember when we first saw it, we were like, yeah, it's like, you know, it's like
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I have the text messages.
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I don't want to release any more of her messages.
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She gave me the permission on the one thing, but like there's there's a little summary
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from her on how like this has nothing to do with you.
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I think it's really funny that people think so, but it's a personal thing for me.
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And I was like, I don't care.
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I just I'm laughing.
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So I that was what during her people like thought she was losing it doing Twitter tirade.
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She was having a blast.
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It was really funny.
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We were laughing quite a bit.
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But am I able to read part of this HRO like you can read all of it?
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I don't know.
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I'm not a lawyer.
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I don't want to fuck you up.
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I didn't release it.
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It was released by Minnesota Public Records and it's amazing.
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HROs are typically typically hard to find because they're harassment things.
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So they're not they're not confidential, but they tend to be filed to where you can
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only access them if you have the specific file number and if you are at an access terminal.
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Now to the to the credit of Minnesota Public Records, I believe they got the file number
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from me because I showed the you know, I put the screenshot or I put the picture up of
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the caption.
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So I did release like I don't mind.
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I don't care that they release this, but it's not easy to get.
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But yes, you can read it.
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It's public.
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It's a it's a publicly accessible document.
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You just have to.
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It's annoying to do.
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I just didn't know if I could do it with you on stream because and I'm not going to read
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through all of it.
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I just had this one little section that I thought was interesting and I'd like to get your take
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on it.
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I can't talk about I'll just say I can't talk about it.
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Fair enough.
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Fair enough.
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I just I didn't want to trip you up.
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OK, so he says I cannot live a normal life, do my daily work without worrying if he is
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going to invent some new threat or make up some new charge that I am not responsible
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for. Ever since his arrest for failing cocaine possession and child endangerment and my
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cooperation with police and his access of my Google account, I have been worried he could
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come to my house and cause trouble, especially while my children at home.
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Now, my question is this in the very first sentence, he says I cannot live a normal life,
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do my daily work without worrying if he's going to invent some new threat or make up
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some new charge that I'm not responsible for.
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That almost sounds like he's pointing the finger back at you over this case with Kayla.
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It sounds like he's right.
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Yes, 100 percent.
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Yes, I think so.
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And I think, you know, like I don't think he processed what happened at that hearing
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very well, because at that hearing he was informed that not like they're taking all
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of the reports that come in, they're taking them and they're listening, not just the
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ones from me. Like I think I said it on Melton's show at first, we didn't have access
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to the person who investigates release condition violations.
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There's a person that's their job is to take it all.
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And so it was after the plea hearing, we got the information.
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They said, if you have found any release violations during any of the time and you
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believe them to have happened, please send them directly to this person.
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Prior to that, we had we were instructed to make police reports, which I hate, like
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because you have to explain all this context every time you make the police report and
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they don't really get it.
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And it's like, OK, he's not allowed to say anything directly or indirectly, like nothing
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at all. And they're like, well, what did he say?
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I'm like, well, this thing. Well, how's that?
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How's that? It's like, OK, well, it means this thing, this thing, this thing.
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This is a direct. This is an indirect reference.
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And his audience knows it.
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And all the like thousands of people online know this.
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You guys don't because you're police officers and you're busy with really other stuff.
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But but, you know, like this in context when you have the context and you then have to
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like lay out the context and put all these clips together.
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And so I had to do that three times.
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And they ultimately like they just didn't act on it at the time, but they had all those
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reports. So once we got that person's name, I'm like, here are the ICR numbers for all
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of them. Plus, here's all the other stuff.
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And and so, yeah, he thinks that I did this to him.
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One of the frustrating things about that, I'm very happy for April that she's moved
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away from all of this. I am.
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But one of the very frustrating things is not having her around to help like verify
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some of this stuff. Right.
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Because she, Kayla and I were all together in the same room when when I found out about
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about the picture and like she saw she saw Kayla's reaction the same time I did.
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And that was not that wasn't me going, we need to take advantage of this.
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This was this is me going, I'm really sorry.
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Like, I don't I don't know what else to say.
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What do you want to do? You know, and she said, you know, this is what do we like?
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What can we do? And I said, well, it's a crime.
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So you can file a police report, but you have to file the police report if you want to do
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that. And that's up to you. It's you're the victim, you know.
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And so it was entirely up to her.
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And anybody this entire time, he's made it out like it's some strategic revenge.
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And I'll have to wait until probably July 16th to address that, because, you know, like
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I can't address him directly.
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But it was never it was never about revenge.
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Actually, I didn't I didn't want to take any action against him until my case was
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completely done, because he's a state witness.
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And I even before I did anything, people were talking about witness intimidation,
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witness. And it's like, so I didn't want to take out a restraining order.
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I didn't want to file a civil suit.
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I didn't want to do any of those things because they all look like witness tampering.
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And my goal was to just wait it out, get my case taken care of.
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And then we deal with him as necessary.
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And then, you know, and since Kayla had the same type of case that I had the same
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charges, we were waiting.
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We were waiting there, too.
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It's much harder for me to get an HRO.
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Obviously, like I'm a public figure, people get to talk about me and say kind of
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whatever they want. It's really tough to do anything about it, including stopping
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them. But but yeah, so now now I have to wait to address that more directly.
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But his his theory is is so weird.
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It. I can't figure out where he is mentally anymore, because doing this filing
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this against me without a lawyer was a really, really bad plan.
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Doesn't look good, considering that this whole time when it comes to Kayla's case,
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he's he has been blaming it all on you.
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Yes. So it's it's like you two are in tandem when it comes to his case.
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So it does look like a retaliatory type of, shall I say, lawfare?
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Yeah, interesting.
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So the amazing thing about him is and I want to go back to what you were what you
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had on screen a minute ago as part of this, he's he's he's a fucking overhead
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projector from like grade school, right?
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Like everything just goes upside down and backwards up on up onto the wall.
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And if you pull up that thing first, he I'm glad you mentioned lawfare because it
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reminded me like he mentions lawfare and then engages in it like the next day.
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Yes. And in paragraph nine, I think it was we're looking at I can't first of all,
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I cannot live a normal life, do my daily work to his credit.
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I believe he's just using that as the legal term of art, because that's the
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legal standard for harassment.
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But notice, invent some new threat or make up some new charge.
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The person inventing threats and charges is has been him the entire like he's the
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one who's done it.
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He keeps saying like he brings up the cocaine possession, child endangerment.
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Those are real charges.
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But he talks about me giving my daughter cocaine or he talks about me, you know,
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doing this Google stuff.
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He talks about all of these things.
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He's invented all of these charges.
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And it's wild because he just even when he's writing something down, he just
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cannot not project.
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And yeah, I've been worried to come to my house and cause trouble.
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The other thing is like that last sentence is so detached logically from the rest of
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the paragraph. It's like, but I already like I've been to your house a whole
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bunch and like you've been to my house.
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We know where each other live.
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And so like nothing in that paragraph suggests that I would somehow like be
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newly able to go to his house or have some new motive to do it.
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Right. It's just wild.
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But especially while his children are home.
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I don't like I don't know their schedule.
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I didn't know their schedule when they were coming to my house.
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I'm like, oh, you got you got kids.
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Great. Especially rich coming from someone who when invited to different places,
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you know, challenges people to a boxing match instead, he has physically
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challenged half a dozen people or more, more me specifically when he challenged
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the five people to fight at once, his main mission was that I had to be one
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of the five. That's the first thing.
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The other thing he said multiple times is that, well, fighting me would be
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ridiculous because he'd literally kill me so easily and he doesn't want to do
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that. Like he doesn't want to kill anybody.
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He's the weirdest person.
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Why would you say any of this stuff?
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But even like the first sentence, even though like it's it's to hold the, I
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guess, was it the legal term of harassment saying that he can't live his
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normal life day to day or whatever, or do his daily work?
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It's just like, do we not have seven hours a day of daily work?
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How do you not do your work?
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You've done it like you don't miss any days.
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No, to be fair, that was the way he was making his money at his daily work was
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talking mad shit about you and your family.
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Well, yeah, that's true.
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But not only that, but he kept continued talking about how he goes and golfs all
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the time, how he's doing all these extracurricular things outside of his
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home. So anybody with actually look and see what he's been talking about and
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what he says and even picture he'll send, he'll put up pictures on X of him at
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the golf course, too, just to give an extra evidence of him not being home.
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Yep.
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And it's always coming up basis for him to, like he says, he gets done with
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the show, he turns it off and his life is better than ever.
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His life is perfection.
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In fact, why would he, why would he want to ruin anything at all?
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And it's like, wait, you, you can't function in your daily life, but it's
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the best it's ever been.
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Okay.
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Sure.
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This is, this one's fun.
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Yeah.
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Tell me about that.
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Can you?
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I knew I'm like, wow.
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Let's see.
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So respondent use the victim's personal information without consent to
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invite, encourage or solicit a third party to engage in a sexual act with
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the victim as follows.
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And then he just puts a date range down and it's like, well, I know.
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And it's only till November of 2024, which wait, it's, this is only after the
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relationship, so this doesn't make any sense at all.
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It's also the day before you sent in that chat.
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So I don't know.
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Like I, I have no idea.
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This, this is the, you know, the barrel of monkey surprises.
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I can't wait to find out what, um, what sexual act I solicited him
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to engage in a third party with.
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It's like, well, I couldn't find any buyers.
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So I don't know.
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Like the markets are
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like, uh, like subtly confirming that the texts from April were true.
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I don't know.
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The date range is very confusing because I mean, I, I had contact with him twice
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after this, uh, April 18th and April 30th.
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And that's it.
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Like, yes, I sent in the super chat, but it wasn't really like a conversation
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or a contact in the way that I would normally think of them.
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I wouldn't recommend me sending a super chat right now.
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Obviously, uh, but just in general, it's like, I most, I mostly went on
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your channel and told a joke using Google's, you know, publicly available
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way to, to engage with the show.
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It wasn't, it wasn't really a joke.
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It was a story, but you get the gist of it.
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So like, I cannot, I cannot figure this, this one out at all.
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It's really, it's interesting to me.
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I don't know if the judge is even going to get to asking him about this stuff.
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Right.
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And this is probably banking on that, you know, the responding continues
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to make threats publicly, which I've never threatened him at all.
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Um, I've, I've said that, uh, there may be a lawsuit coming and there may be
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like, I'm that, but that's not a threat, but you're, you're privileged
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to use legal action unless you're openly using it in a harassing manner.
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And, um, I'm very, very serious and I have quite a few valid claims, um,
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all of which, you know, I have to consult with my attorney, uh, and
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consult with my family and like how I want to deal with that.
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Um, but, uh, I've never threatened him in any way.
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Um, I think, I think the closest I ever came was, um, Camelot and I were talking
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and we were simply saying, um, trying to box five people in a row is insane.
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Doesn't matter who you are.
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And it's like, I think I said, you might die.
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Like you might die doing that because you just, it's, you're going to have
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a fresh person every, you know, every couple of minutes and they're just
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going to be pounding on you and, and it's going to wear you down.
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Like, but, uh, but that wasn't me threatening him.
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That was just an assessment of how dumb it is to challenge five
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people to a fight in a row.
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Uh, and I've never encouraged anyone to harass him or contact him or watch
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a show or not watch a show.
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I like, I don't talk about any of that.
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So, uh, this is, this is wild.
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If I hadn't reset my Google passwords, he would still have unauthorized
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access to my online activity.
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Well, having unauthorized access and using unauthorized
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access are two different things.
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He, uh, had logged into my computer.
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That's true.
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He logged in, but it just was sitting there.
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It's not like, like you, so you open up your Chrome browser and it's
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got your multiple things, right?
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Like your multiple accounts.
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So I did this sensible thing and I clicked on mine.
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That's how I use Chrome.
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And so it's like, he would still have access to his online activity.
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Um, I didn't need access to his online activity to know about his proclivities.
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Um, I was very close friends with his wife.
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Like I, we've talked about all sorts of things about him.
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Um, and, and, uh, lots of them are very funny.
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Um, he's read my emails and then harass the recipients of those emails.
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No, no.
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Um, it was not hard to figure out Alyssa was, uh, sending a whole
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bunch of information to Aaron.
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Like that was plainly apparent.
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Um, Alyssa hates me.
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I'll reserve my comments about her, uh, for the sake of, you
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know, y'all show that they don't belong here.
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But, uh, Alyssa has hated me for a very long time.
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And that being said, um, I didn't harass her at all.
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Uh, I did send her a message that basically said, wow, uh, sending, sending
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out, uh, all this stuff is really gay.
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She also, I mean, like, so Alyssa at the same time was going on Kiwi
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farms and dumped, uh, all of our DMS, except she deleted all of them.
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She deleted all of her DMS in the, in the dump.
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You can see that there's, uh, if you go through the logs, uh, there's not much,
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I don't remember much being in there that like, uh, this is a person I just
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talked to a lot and, um, and we've tried to be friends with until all
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of a sudden, like she wasn't, but there's, um, there are a couple replies in there
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where you can see that I've replied to a message that no longer exists.
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And you notice just a dearth of comments from her, like, as if I was just
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barraging her with these, uh, long messages that seem to be
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reacting to something else.
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So like seeing that was, was funny, like noticing, oh, you deleted, you
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deleted all the messages that you sent.
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That's cool.
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But, um, but yeah, so figuring out that, that she was involved there and figuring
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out that fat Sean was involved there wasn't hard either.
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He didn't make much of a secret of it.
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And, uh, yeah, his hatred for me is like his hatred for dieting properly.
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So look, let's say he doesn't show up for this hearing at all.
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Then what?
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Um, likely the judge will just throw it out.
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Yeah.
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Uh, the judge will just dismiss, like you don't show up to, for your,
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your hearing, you can't lay a fact.
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The, so once an HRO is challenged, um, uh, I won't go into long legal explanation,
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but once an HRO is challenged, it now becomes a question of, are there facts?
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If it is there a factual basis that's sufficient?
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Well, you don't have facts on the record.
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The moment they're challenged by the other party.
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So, um, you know, now it's adversarial and those facts, uh, are not admitted.
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But now the judge has to determine what the factual basis is based on the two
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parties giving their sides of the story.
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So if you don't have one to give their factual basis, then there isn't one.
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And the burden is on the petitioner to make the claim, uh, sufficient
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claim to have the HRO issued.
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So if he doesn't show up, uh, the, the judge can't, the judge can't accept it.
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The judge would have to cancel out the HRO and just dismiss it.
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And then what will happen is, uh, we'll file our motion for frivolous litigation,
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especially citing that he didn't show up.
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Um, you know, because again, uh, I have to pay to defend this and, uh, he
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knows it's frivolous.
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He had like any reasonable person who looks at this situation goes, there's no
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way there's unless, unless he had alleged some private message and put in some
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like private texts or something where I was, uh, where I was like bothering him
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or sending him messages or something like that, or calling him like four times a
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day or something like that, you know, that could be like, if I called him every
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day during his show made his phone buzz, uh, distract him that that could get
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there, right, but none of those facts exist.
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So, um, so yeah, it's just, there's, there's just nothing for this.
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It's, it's, it's, and anyone with a reasonable look at it goes, yeah, there's
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no way, so, uh, the frivolity should be obvious.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Well, this, if he doesn't show up or if this, um, HRO gets thrown out because he
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doesn't have sufficient evidence or whatever for it to stick, would that have
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any negative bearing on his case that he has going on right now when it comes to,
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um, Kayla?
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Well, in my opinion, it's a violation, um, of the release conditions.
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Um, he's been much better lately, uh, about not mentioning, not mentioning
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anything, however, I do, I'm going to, I'm going to say he violated within
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three minutes of his first show back.
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He specifically pointed, he said, I can't talk about this stuff, but, um,
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meme copium cam and it's like, you can't do that.
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Like, I don't know why this isn't getting through from the court,
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but he can't do that.
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He can't direct people to where someone else might be saying derogatory
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statements about, and he, he did that within three minutes.
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And so, um, you know, I'm sorry.
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Uh, he, I believe he needs to be held to the, his release conditions.
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And so, you know, I haven't made that report just yet because I didn't
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want to report just one thing, but the frivolity of this, um, the statements
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that he makes inside the, um, inside the document as well, like they indicate
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how much this is about Kayla and not about me.
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Yeah.
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Um, you know, he says I organize people to go to a court hearing or, or like,
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which I didn't organize shit.
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Like I brought one person to that hearing and I brought her into a room
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because she needs to be protected from you.
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Like that's, that's what I did.
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And so, um, I, I didn't have anything to do with anybody coming.
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If anybody asked me, Hey, should I go to this hearing?
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I say, you're grown up.
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Like you make your own decisions.
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I don't, I don't ever tell anybody that that was the funny thing when
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they went after Ethan Ralph, right?
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I know they questioned him about me and stuff like that.
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And the, all of the messages between Ralph is, Hey man, do you mind if I
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like do this?
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And I said, I will not answer that question.
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Like you, you know, I'm not saying people should come or not come, uh, you
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know, go to a hearing or not go to a hearing, you make your own decisions.
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That's fine.
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I can't do anything about it.
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And I don't want to.
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And, uh, they're the very specific reason obviously is cause I don't want to be
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responsible for the actions that follow.
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And, uh, you know, Ralph, uh, he streamed that one hearing or whatever.
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And that, that led to legal trouble for him.
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I didn't want to be involved.
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I didn't know he was going to do that, but I didn't want to be
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involved in anything like that.
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He didn't get that.
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Uh, he didn't get the zoom link from me.
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I didn't even watch the hearing.
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We were busy that day.
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It's the whole, even timing of the filing of this HRO is insane.
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You had all this time between April 11th and what?
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June 16th and you picked the day after.
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Shit didn't go the way that you wanted to in your own case.
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If you were that worried and concerned for your health and safety and that of
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your minor children, why would you let it go on until that point?
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It's just ridiculous.
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It's like, if that was a true concern of yours, that would have happened way
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back last April or May or whenever.
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He's got another big problem.
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So his suggestion, I guess his answer to that would probably be something like,
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well, until he showed up at the courthouse, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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But again, he couldn't have possibly seen me at the courthouse.
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He, he didn't, he did not turn around and look at the gallery while I was in
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the courtroom and he didn't, he wasn't able to see us because we, like I said,
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we were in a conference room, Kayla and I were alone.
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And so he can't suggest that I was like participating in any of this, uh, in any
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of this behavior or filming him or doing anything because I wasn't and, and
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there's zero evidence of it.
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If there were, it would, it would have to, I mean, it would, I didn't, there
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just couldn't be, it didn't happen.
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So there's no, uh, there's no pictures, there's no video of anything.
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I think I might show up on Melton's video for about one second as, um, Kayla and I
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got out of the elevator and then we, you know, shuffled off into the room.
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So, um, not quite sure, uh, where he thinks this is going, but, but this is,
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this is someone who has, uh, you know, talked about, uh, breathlessly all of my
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hearings, um, has supported people, uh, collecting my body cam footage, um,
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specifically he's talked about how it was proper for people to go and, uh, and
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like try and film us in public and, and, which it is fine to try and film us in
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public and it's just as fine for us to try and avoid that, but, um, you know,
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he's, he said all of these things.
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Everything that's in his HRO is a reflection of things that he's done or
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supported and it's, it's marvelous to see when, when you do it, when you're doing
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a case study of him and you go, I've never met someone who can so thoroughly
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distort their reality to be the opposite of what it is.
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It's fascinating.
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It's scary as hell.
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It is.
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Well, cause you know, even reading some of that stuff in that HRO, it makes
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me even think about like the stuff that he even did to that Heather lady from
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laser one Oh three, when it comes to like the different types of, for as it
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sending the third parties out there to get to her and, um, just like different
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things that he would say to incite other people to almost gather, not in just like
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a physical space, but also in like the digital space of like a Facebook and to
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surround her comments and like put things in there and just like, and also a
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lot of the stuff that he was talking about could have been attributed to
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Melton and not you.
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Yeah.
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And, um, you know, for the record, I don't think Melton, I don't think Melton
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has done anything legally wrong, um, at all.
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And some people might question his morality, his ethics, that's fine.
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People can question him all day.
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I don't care.
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Um, but I don't think he's done anything legally wrong, but yes, uh, it's, it's
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wild because, um, he certainly has done, uh, far more than I have in regards to
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regards to this person who harasses me every day, every single day, just about
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he's, like I said, he's, he's been a little bit better, um, over this past
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4th of July weekend, I just, I have a feeling that veneers is going to crack.
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I just, he's not demonstrated an ability to keep it up.
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Um, you know, and, uh, but I never asked him to not talk about me.
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Um, all I've, all I've ever wanted was for him to abide by the restrictions
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imposed by the court, which says that he cannot harass, uh, defame, demean,
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uh, denigrate his victim any further.
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Like he can't do it anymore.
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And, uh, for whatever reason, he just cannot be, um, the adults in the room
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and, and say, okay, I can just not talk about this subject.
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Like that's it.
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That's, that's the only thing I know.
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Uh, I don't want him to stop talking.
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I don't want him to cancel his show.
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I don't want him to, you know, do anything els
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Minnesota's definition of "indirect contact" is frankly insane and unworkable for anyone who has a public life, but at the same time if anyone should be aware of it and prepared to abide by it that would be Nick at this point. His strategy of telling the Court to hammer Aaron for every technical violation while playing fast and loose on his end is gonna work like one of those 1930s ornathopters.
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Nick on Pretty Anti-Social podcast
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I really don't care if he talks about me at all.
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He does all the time and it has no impact, um, on like my show numbers or
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anything has basically no impact on me.
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And so, you know, it's like, go ahead and do that if that's what you need to do.
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If you want to make content off of it, you not the first person, but, uh, but
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you gotta leave her alone.
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And that's, it's that simple.
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You, when you overstep and I'm perfectly capable of knowing what
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overstepping looks like, uh, when you overstep, you give up your, uh, some
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portion of your rights, like that's how the legal system works.
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They, they don't, the way they look at it or the way it should be looked at is
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it's not being taken away from you.
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You forfeited part of it.
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So like for me, I forfeited part of my liberty on substance use by abusing
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substances, right, and doing it in a, in an illegal manner.
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So now, um, I have restrictions on legal activity, like drinking alcohol.
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Okay.
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Like I had to give that up.
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Like that's, that's part of it.
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Um, I, you know, his, his part of it is not talking about Kayla and it's really
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not hard, but most people in the world do that every day.
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They just don't talk about her.
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Mm-hmm.
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If he uses Riketa in a plural sense, is that enough to be indirectly speaking of her?
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I mean, it seems like it would be to me.
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In fact, so, um, I'm not his lawyer, obviously, uh, the, the conservative
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thing would be to say you should really be very careful and limit how much you
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even say about Nick, because any of these stories that involve Nick and Kayla, and
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you try and frame it as just one person, like, and they, they don't make sense,
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then those stories will be indirectly referencing, uh, the person that would
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be the conservative way to do it.
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I mean, uh, obviously no one's perfect at that.
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Um, my preference is just that he just not mentioned her.
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Like she's trying to be private.
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She is not on the internet.
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She's not commenting.
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He has a platform.
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She doesn't, and he abused that platform to abuse her.
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And so now he, he just doesn't get to anymore.
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Yeah.
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The whole thing is just gross.
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Like just seeing that she had texted him near hours before he went on to Kino
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Casino and just the day before he sent the photo saying, just keep, keep all
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this stuff like to yourself, like don't say anything and then went out and just
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was like, Oh, look at me.
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I'm a he man of this.
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And let me talk intimately about this, that, and the third and everything.
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And then, and then try to come off like, Oh, I'm this victim of this thing.
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This is why I sent it because I didn't feel like a man.
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It's just like, are you fricking kidding me?
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It adds more into the element of intent and the intention was to harm.
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Yes.
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And again, it's not my text.
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So I haven't shared it, but he responded to her and he responded to that text
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and he's never shown it on screen and he never talks about it, but his response
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to her was, I recognize effectively, I recognize that even when I talk
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positively about you, it causes you harm.
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Those, those are the words that causes you harm.
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He's like, I don't, I don't mean to speak negatively about you, but I recognize
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because of basically, because of what you're telling me in this text that any
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mention of you causes you harm and I will not do it anymore.
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That was his response.
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And then the next day he did the, you know, the, sent the picture.
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And talk about her like a romantic, like that was when he spoke about her the
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most and was like the most romantically.
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I don't know that everything he was talking about with her was like so
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overblown, the snow angels and the were soulmates forever.
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And it's just very interesting to hear that dichotomy because we, we didn't
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know that other side of things, you know?
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I mentioned this a couple of times and I really hope someone like you guys pick it
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up, it's not subtle that I want you guys to look into it because you're so good at
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this stuff, but from the time that he was out, which is April 11th, right?
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The night of April 11th, by the way, I love that, um, win by two, when he put
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together that compilation for me, the first clip is from April 11th and it's
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his night show before, before, or his morning show, before all of that happened.
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He's like, yeah, I'm going to go hang out with the Raketas.
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And I was like, wow, this night's going to end way different than you think.
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He's going to be catastrophic for you.
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Um, but, uh, if you go between April 11th and, um, our arrest on May 23rd, uh,
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there are several instances where he just goes off about people fucking telling him
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what he can and can't say and how much it pisses him off and those people better
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stop it, they better watch out.
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Every time he did that was in response to, I believe it was April typically.
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I think Kayla only asked him the one time, um, but it was in response to April.
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Uh, and sometimes they think April was asking on Kayla's behalf, like, please
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stop mentioning us, like, please just leave us alone or whatever.
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And mind you, she and he at the time, no one knows this, uh, or no one knew this
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at the time were in, they were already talking like about divorce, they were
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entering divorce negotiations.
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So he's sitting there making these threats during this process and he's
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threatening to say everything.
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A bunch of people laugh because, um, you know, he said that, uh, that I wanted,
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uh, April to get an NDA out of him.
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It's like, I wasn't me who wanted that.
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Everybody wanted you to just leave us alone, like just please leave us alone.
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And, um, and so, you know, he's reacting to that constantly and all those threats.
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So what he does is he does, or what he doesn't like is someone telling him what
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to do, especially if it's a woman.
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He hates it.
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And so when April would be like, Hey man, like, you gotta stop talking about us
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this way, please like, stop, we have families, um, you know, we're just
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trying to get by and recover from like all this and we're trying to move, move
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on with life and you're, you're moving on with life and just, just stop.
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And every time that's when he would have this like a massive tirade.
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So it's not surprising to me at all that Kayla says, please, uh, don't mention me.
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And he's like, yeah, I won't.
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And then just fucking bombs all over the place with it because that's his revenge.
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And he's, he's like, he's sinister on this issue and he's sinister with women
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and how he responds to them.
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I don't know if like his mother was a controlled control person or something,
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but I don't know where this comes from for him.
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I never got the story on like, why, I mean, I know his dad, like, I don't know.
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It looks like he ate Domino's pizza, not a Domino's pizza, Domino's pizza.
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And with all the cancer that that would cause, um, his dad, like is a weirdo.
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It's like, yeah, but I don't know anything about his mom or how she does.
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And, and so, um, I don't know what did it, but something, something has broken
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him where if, if a woman suggests anything, I mean, you guys mentioned shirts.
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He has no goes on about shirts.
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It's like, what, what is happening?
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Why do you even care?
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Oh my God.
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I think that Florida shirt, the one that's, uh, the one that has a
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fucking brightness meter on it.
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I think that's from a brand called chubbies.
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Just to Malibu Ken chubbies shirt.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There's a problem.
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Ken has a body that is desirable.
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No, this is Ken post Barbie breakup.
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You know, he had so much of the hogs and dogs and all that.
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So, you know, they were big feelings.
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They're very, very big feelings.
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No, it's, um, so that, that whole thing with, uh, with his explosive
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reaction towards women talking to him was happening behind the scenes starts in
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April, if anybody ever like goes and looks, so I remember some of the tirades
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uh, because, you know, I'd be, I'd be sitting there with, um, with Kayla and
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April while they're like crying, you know, as, as he's just unloading on them
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and then threatening, I mean, he's, he's threatening to, uh, you know, release
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all this private stuff as early as April directly, directly against, uh, April and
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Kayla, he had already started talking negatively about me and he didn't like
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that.
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I told him to kill himself really seems to bother him.
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Yeah.
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People tell me to kill myself every hour.
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Like get over it.
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Yes.
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It's cause it was from you, Nick.
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I know.
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Put my heart emoji at the end of it.
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Broken heart fire or whatever.
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Well, it's actually because, uh, so on Wednesday we're going to be talking
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about narcissistic injury.
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And so it's like all of this, it just feels like that because every
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feeling, anytime like he gets hurt, it's like he has to hurt someone else
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10 times more.
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And it, and even though that he says that he's in this like loving relationship,
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his life is great.
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His life is good.
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He's moved on.
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He still cannot move on and needs to continue to, I guess, like chop you all
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down and especially April and stuff too, to make himself feel better
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about the situation.
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So his reaction, his reaction to April cleaning out the closet and leaving,
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which was a couple of days before, right?
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Like the 11th, but I think that happened on the seventh or the eighth.
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His reaction was so small.
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It was just, uh, his message to me was, you know, came home to this kid saw it.
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Uh, you know, I don't even care kind of thing.
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Like it wasn't no care.
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It was, it was just like, so, so defeated and it's so opposite of how he
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reacted, reacts to everything.
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There was no positive spin.
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There's no, but there wasn't even a big blow up.
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It was like this.
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And, and, you know, I, we're friends at the time, little strange relationship,
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but we're, we're friends.
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And so I'm talking to my friend and I'm like, Hey, I didn't, I didn't know
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she was doing this.
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I think that's really shitty.
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I was really, I was really mad at her because she just told me she's going up
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to grab a couple of things from the house and she comes back with a truck full of
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everything she owns just about.
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And she's like, so, uh, where should I put this?
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I'm like, I guess the other house, you can't put it here.
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We don't have any room for like this stuff, you know, but, um, but, uh, I'm
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like, I don't think you should have done it that way.
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There's no way you're going to communicate with someone after doing that.
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I think that was, that was the wrong move.
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Um, but I'm, I'm talking to him and he starts, he approached it
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like putting in the work.
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He's like, Oh, I'm going to, you know, well, I'll write this letter, right?
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Like he wrote, he scribbled out his kindergarten note and, uh, and he was so
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proud of it and he has a message to me that says like, you're going to be so
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proud of this letter, right?
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I should find it because like, you're so proud.
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I totally take ownership.
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And I use the I word that you taught me.
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Oh my Lord.
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He couldn't say I, he could only say we, uh, if,
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yes, he says we collectively all the time, but this is a specific to, um, when,
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when he and April were fighting, uh, or having a discussion and they, they got
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calm finally and they were talking to each other and that took hours.
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Um, it was a bad fight, which like, I understand, uh, but they, they get to
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the point where they're finally talking.
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And so like April's like, you know, uh, you, you sometimes do this and I do
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this and et cetera, et cetera.
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He would, whenever there was something negative, he would not use the word I.
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I listened for two hours, not one instance of the word I, when it involved
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a negative thing, he was identifying.
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It was always we, we sometimes raise our voices, we get aggressive.
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Uh, we do this, we get in each other's faces.
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We can get a little bit more physical than we want.
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Like those are the types of things and it's always we, and I went to him and
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I'm like, Hey man, like you, you didn't say the word I, not once everything
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that you blamed yourself for.
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He's like, no, I was totally talking about things that we do.
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And I'm like, but, but we doesn't happen there.
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Like I've, I've watched you guys and April doesn't do that or
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that or that or that you do.
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And he's like, well, yeah, that's what I said.
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I said, no, you said we.
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And so his letter where he says, I did all this.
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I'm very proud that all those eyes are from me.
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Like I made that happen.
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You're welcome.
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Very nice.
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That responsibility he's got to, he cannot take full ownership.
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That's wild.
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No, his, his brain does not let him be negative or be, uh, anything shy of the
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hero, um, his, like the, the weird, the wild stories are the ones where you hear
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him doing something heroic or magnanimous or however you want to phrase it.
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And that was someone else.
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Like it was, it was a hundred percent someone else in that situation.
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And his brain just supplants him into that person.
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And I don't know if he knows, like, I really don't know if he
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knows that that's not true.
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And so then, you know, we're sitting there listening, going, no, no, no,
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that wasn't, it wasn't you.
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He did make SpaghettiOs one time.
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Like that happened.
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I'm proud of him.
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Um, and using a spoon to scoop it out into the microwave dish.
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He didn't even make them on the stove.
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Like it was the easiest thing ever.
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Very, very unfair.
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Put it in for enough time.
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Or was it just, you know, that 20 seconds short where you still get that cold
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spot and you're like, damn, I don't know.
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I didn't need them.
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Like you didn't make me for me.
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I asked, I was, I was too coked out unconscious on a bed because
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that's how cocaine works.
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You guys know that.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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When you do lots of cocaine, you just, you actually lay down and you don't want
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it, that's, that's, that's that story.
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I don't, no one seemed to pay attention.
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He goes, there are three people just coked out on the bed and they just can't get up.
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So I'm the one who has to go as the sober guy.
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I'm like, I would have made 85 bowls.
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What are you talking about?
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You made one.
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You should try cocaine.
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I was going to have five bowls ready.
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Fine.
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I got a microwave in four pots.
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Oh, man.
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Yeah.
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So he, that's, that's how he operates.
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And, and like to watch, to watch all this happen in this way where, and it just
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keeps going and this, this is what makes him an absolute nightmare is when someone
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believes, when someone believes in inherently, I guess, the reality they've
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constructed and the people around can go objectively go, but this isn't right.
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Like this isn't true.
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That person, that person becomes, I don't want to say dangerous.
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I don't want to put that on, but that's, that's where, that's where the possibility
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of danger starts to rise because now it's like, okay, they're disconnected from
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reality, they believe they're the hero and they believe literal villains now
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because once, if you take away all of your negative characteristics and you imprint
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them on whoever's around you and you take away all of their positive
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characteristics and supplant yourself into those, you've now created a hero and
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a villain and that, that villain becomes, you know, a target for the hero in, in
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various ways, I'm not saying that they're in physical danger, but certainly their
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wrath and ire can be experienced and you can watch it happen live.
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It's happening.
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It's happening to me, but you know, that that's fine.
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Well, and it's also, when you do that, you can't see the gray, like everything
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has to be strictly black, white, and there is no reasoning whatsoever.
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And something that I've also noticed though, too, is that when things
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continue to happen and it's in the negative, when it happens to him is that
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he starts to circle the wagons around himself with the people that, and honestly,
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like his fans and stuff that he knows will stay there to build him back up for
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him to have that confidence to spread himself back out.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And his, he's such an interesting situation because like his, his show, his
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show is what makes all of this so much different.
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I don't, I don't know how to even word it.
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My show now, sweet, but like the fact that he has this show and it's so hyper
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localized and the audience is, um, hyper, uh, curated, we'll say like the legit
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audience, uh, who support him, but it's, it's enough.
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It's enough for a struggle session a day, uh, to get by for him and, and to,
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to do like, he makes enough money.
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I mean, assuming he's not lying about the numbers, he makes enough money.
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I wonder if, I wonder if there's some way to get discovery on that coming up.
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I don't know, um, about like, you know, what happens when, when I try to take
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money from you, uh, because of frivolous litigation, I'm not sure if there's
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discovery on that, but there might be, uh, anyway, so assuming his
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numbers are accurate, you know, he makes decent enough money.
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Um, but it, it creates this insular place.
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And you guys have talked about this, right?
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Like he is self-reinforced by this group of probably equally, um, touched
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individuals, right?
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Like in some way or another, uh, either they have, they have, uh, they have a
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hilarious approach to life and they go, this is funny because this is so
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disconnected and they, maybe they don't see it because of their own, their own
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past, uh, maybe they have, maybe they have a similar issue with women or they
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identify with some other thing that he rants about like Jews or whatever, like
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the Sam show guy or whatever, like if, if that self-reinforcing group never wants
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to see him fail because he is representative of them, like he's the
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blank hero slate for them to go off of.
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So then it, it reinforces narcissistic tendencies like so heavily and, and he
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literally can't lose, like he cannot lose in his mind and it's, I don't know what
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it's going to take, but I think when he finally realizes that he has lost in a
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real way and it might be, it might be at sentencing, um, it might be, you know, in
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a civil suit or something that might follow anything like that, um, it'll be
01:00:06.820 --> 01:00:10.700
interesting to see it crash down, like what will happen when his wall is broken.
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Yeah.
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Well, it's just like, cause it's funny.
01:00:15.540 --> 01:00:21.780
His audience doesn't help that with his narcissistic ego thing at all.
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It's like, if you even think about the goal, right.
01:00:24.940 --> 01:00:31.700
And, um, you know, and they play with him into, and they play into it when it
01:00:31.700 --> 01:00:35.060
comes to, okay, we're going to see him sweat until the end, and then we're
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going to give him all this money.
01:00:36.140 --> 01:00:37.940
So that means he's great, whatever.
01:00:38.260 --> 01:00:41.660
But what's also funny though, too, is something that he had mentioned before is
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like when he would compare himself to you, he would be like, well, I'm the
01:00:47.500 --> 01:00:51.380
king of Minnesota, you see, like, cause if you go around Minnesota, they don't
01:00:51.380 --> 01:00:56.180
know who Nick regatta is, they know, they know the toe, you know, but even though
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that he's known, you know, other places, but in Minnesota, I'm king.
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And so it's weird, different little mechanisms that he has built in his own
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brain to make sure like, oh no, but I'm still better than this person.
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Yeah.
01:01:13.420 --> 01:01:21.140
He thinks it's, it's actually interesting is so over the past seven years, I've
01:01:21.140 --> 01:01:24.860
thought a lot about social media, monetization, marketing, and I've learned
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a lot about it and he's a product of, of the old world of doing things, right?
01:01:31.300 --> 01:01:36.780
Like old terrestrial radio, which has its advertising structure, which if you
01:01:36.780 --> 01:01:41.380
think about terrestrial radio and add, add payments on there, all you can think
01:01:41.380 --> 01:01:45.140
is why in fuck is anybody buying ads on terrestrial radio anymore?
01:01:45.140 --> 01:01:49.900
Like nobody is listening to this for a significant amount of time to, uh, to
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deal with, um, so to listen to the ads and be engaged, there's no engagement
01:01:54.020 --> 01:02:00.260
at all live streams and live content is engaging and Aaron should know this
01:02:00.620 --> 01:02:06.140
because his entire life, um, uh, his entire economic reality is based on
01:02:06.140 --> 01:02:09.740
this, the relationship that you build between specific members of a broader
01:02:09.740 --> 01:02:14.020
audience is how you make your bread and butter, but those people, they don't
01:02:14.020 --> 01:02:16.780
just donate to like your show or pay you directly.
01:02:16.780 --> 01:02:20.940
They're the ones who are the most valuable advertising targets, uh, of all
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time, because on your recommendation, they will actually do it like the guy,
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the guy who hears you in a car, uh, you know, on his way to work, he might
01:02:30.620 --> 01:02:35.140
remember an ad that you said when that need arises and that's, that's the bank
01:02:35.140 --> 01:02:38.980
role it's like, we're going to put this much money into, into these radio spots
01:02:39.060 --> 01:02:42.620
and we're going to hope that someone remembers a triple a towing when their
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car needs and it's like, you're just better off being, uh, you know, double
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a plus towing and getting ahead of them in the phone book here.
01:02:49.660 --> 01:02:51.740
Honestly, that's, that's the fastest way.
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That's why the best bonds are always a or AA bail bonds.
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But, um, but so you, you have this and then you, he doesn't realize that, um,
01:03:03.100 --> 01:03:07.060
and a lot of people don't seem to realize like how valuable that engagement is.
01:03:07.060 --> 01:03:12.700
And, and so when you disconnect, uh, that engagement from, from everything,
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he's like, uh, yeah, so in, in Minnesota, I got, I got these numbers and it's
01:03:17.100 --> 01:03:20.580
like, it doesn't matter where you have numbers, it matters where you have
01:03:20.580 --> 01:03:24.860
engagement and his, his thought is that his morning radio numbers translates
01:03:24.860 --> 01:03:31.540
into his fame, um, but again, uh, Oh, there, there was that guy on the
01:03:31.540 --> 01:03:35.940
radio is, is the level of fame and understanding that people have.
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And he talks about being seen all the time.
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I spent significant amounts of time with this guy in St.
01:03:41.300 --> 01:03:46.260
Cloud and never once saw someone come up to him, uh, and say, hi, like,
01:03:46.260 --> 01:03:47.660
Hey, what's up your steel toe?
01:03:47.820 --> 01:03:52.620
Never once, not at a bar other than like a guy he, he knew one of the sponsors.
01:03:52.940 --> 01:03:54.180
Oh, came there.
01:03:54.180 --> 01:03:56.660
One of the sponsors of the show came there and got a DUI that night.
01:03:56.660 --> 01:03:57.060
Good job.
01:03:57.380 --> 01:04:05.180
That guy, but, uh, yeah, so he, he just, he has this weird thing where he has to
01:04:05.180 --> 01:04:08.060
be, he has to one up me and I'm like, I don't care if you're like the most
01:04:08.060 --> 01:04:09.980
famous person in Minnesota guy, go for it.
01:04:10.260 --> 01:04:12.140
I don't, I don't want to be that.
01:04:13.140 --> 01:04:15.660
I w I would love all the perks that come with fame, but I don't really
01:04:15.660 --> 01:04:16.580
want to be that famous.
01:04:16.580 --> 01:04:18.340
It's a lot of work to do that.
01:04:18.660 --> 01:04:22.540
And, um, and, uh, it's not all that it's cracked up to be.
01:04:26.300 --> 01:04:29.700
Anyway, well, that part of everything really pushes button.
01:04:29.700 --> 01:04:36.860
So, you know, anyway, um, by the way, one last thing, sorry, if you, if
01:04:36.860 --> 01:04:39.540
you take my subscriber count, since we'll just do it this way, if you take
01:04:39.540 --> 01:04:44.220
my subscriber count and you distribute it per capita based on state populations,
01:04:44.220 --> 01:04:49.620
I'm more famous than Aaron, even with that, that fraction of my subscribers
01:04:49.620 --> 01:04:51.260
is bigger than his channel still.
01:04:55.460 --> 01:04:56.980
That's just how it goes.
01:04:56.980 --> 01:04:58.740
Like it's just how it goes.
01:04:58.860 --> 01:05:02.420
That was not a call to, uh, to any sort of contact with him.
01:05:02.780 --> 01:05:04.780
Again, I want to reiterate to everybody.
01:05:04.940 --> 01:05:09.060
I do not support contacting in or bothering him in any way or watching,
01:05:09.060 --> 01:05:10.380
like watching or not watching his show.
01:05:10.380 --> 01:05:11.020
No comments.
01:05:11.020 --> 01:05:12.060
I disavow all of them.
01:05:13.100 --> 01:05:13.940
I should have said that earlier.
01:05:15.220 --> 01:05:18.580
I think, yeah, same.
01:05:20.180 --> 01:05:21.700
Your HROs are in the mail.
01:05:21.900 --> 01:05:22.380
I know.
01:05:23.500 --> 01:05:27.180
We were talking about that pre-game on if we can shut up to Minnesota, we can
01:05:27.180 --> 01:05:29.940
expect the step off the plane.
01:05:30.260 --> 01:05:32.620
I was going to make a joke about him hiring me to write the
01:05:32.620 --> 01:05:37.300
HROs against you guys, but I don't know how far these jokes can go.
01:05:38.180 --> 01:05:42.580
It's such a ludicrous HRO that like, it's like, I should be able to talk
01:05:42.780 --> 01:05:46.860
about this before my hearing date, which is still that's 10 days away.
01:05:47.740 --> 01:05:51.740
But, um, Oh, people have asked, uh, I, I do have counsel on this.
01:05:51.780 --> 01:05:54.700
I think anyone should have noticed there was a certificate of
01:05:54.700 --> 01:05:56.940
reptile and they, that was in there.
01:05:56.940 --> 01:05:59.060
But people were asking if I have a lawyer on this.
01:05:59.060 --> 01:05:59.860
Yes, I do.
01:06:00.460 --> 01:06:02.700
Um, it's my criminal defense attorney.
01:06:02.860 --> 01:06:06.100
Uh, he handles, he's handled plenty of HROs.
01:06:06.420 --> 01:06:08.940
I've handled plenty of HROs too, on both sides of it.
01:06:09.020 --> 01:06:14.420
And, uh, I was thinking about going in and just being really, really, really
01:06:14.500 --> 01:06:18.700
thorough, but then I decided to hire someone else instead, cause it's
01:06:18.700 --> 01:06:22.300
like, it's just so, it's so tiring.
01:06:22.980 --> 01:06:27.940
Um, but, uh, yeah, I told him, I told him I, I want to be extremely
01:06:27.940 --> 01:06:31.700
aggressive on going after the fees because, uh, I shouldn't
01:06:31.700 --> 01:06:32.740
have to hire anybody for this.
01:06:33.740 --> 01:06:34.540
Yeah, that's wild.
01:06:34.580 --> 01:06:38.100
You would think whoever filed it should be, you know, responsible
01:06:38.100 --> 01:06:41.180
for any fees, it's weird that they make someone who's on the
01:06:41.180 --> 01:06:43.380
defensive pay for all of that.
01:06:43.380 --> 01:06:43.660
But.
01:06:44.180 --> 01:06:47.940
Well, it's, I mean, I don't have to, I could go in and represent myself, right?
01:06:47.940 --> 01:06:52.900
Like it's my choice to hire a lawyer and it's, yeah, it's my choice to put
01:06:52.900 --> 01:06:57.020
together, uh, uh, uh, you know, a thorough defense, but I'm going to put
01:06:57.020 --> 01:06:57.980
together a thorough defense.
01:06:57.980 --> 01:06:58.700
I'm on probation.
01:06:58.700 --> 01:07:01.980
I'm not going to have, I'm not going to have a set of criminal prosecution
01:07:01.980 --> 01:07:04.060
hanging over my head for something I didn't do.
01:07:04.540 --> 01:07:04.900
Right.
01:07:05.900 --> 01:07:06.260
Yeah.
01:07:06.300 --> 01:07:10.100
So that's, that should be, again, that should be expected.
01:07:10.100 --> 01:07:14.220
And that's why I'll be asking the judge for permission to, uh, to file a rule nine.
01:07:15.020 --> 01:07:17.180
Um, that's the other shitty element to it.
01:07:17.180 --> 01:07:18.380
And I completely forgot about it.
01:07:18.380 --> 01:07:21.220
It's like, how could it affect your probation?
01:07:22.460 --> 01:07:22.900
It does.
01:07:26.180 --> 01:07:27.020
Unless I get arrested.
01:07:27.420 --> 01:07:31.940
Like if I, if I got arrested, if I got arrested, it technically doesn't either.
01:07:31.940 --> 01:07:36.180
I would have to be convicted of, uh, you know, the misdemeanor violation
01:07:36.180 --> 01:07:39.940
of the restraining order, um, to really affect my probation.
01:07:39.940 --> 01:07:43.420
But anytime I have contact with police, like I have to report it.
01:07:43.740 --> 01:07:46.940
And even if I didn't, even if I didn't do anything, if I like
01:07:46.940 --> 01:07:50.100
witnessed a car accident and the cops show up and they're like, like, I
01:07:50.100 --> 01:07:54.540
have to report that like anytime I talk to the cops at all and they're
01:07:54.540 --> 01:07:57.980
identifiable and it's, and it's clearly an interaction between a civilian
01:07:57.980 --> 01:07:58.780
and a police officer.
01:07:59.180 --> 01:08:04.300
Like if I'm talking to my neighbor, uh, who isn't my former neighbor was a
01:08:04.300 --> 01:08:04.860
state trooper.
01:08:05.140 --> 01:08:08.340
So if I was talking to him, just to like out on the lawn, that's different.
01:08:08.740 --> 01:08:15.460
But anything else I have to, I have to, I had to tell my, uh, PO that I got,
01:08:15.500 --> 01:08:18.540
you know, uh, this restraining order because I was served by a sheriff.
01:08:18.980 --> 01:08:26.020
So I guess I had contact with police, but, uh, they didn't seem to care.
01:08:27.020 --> 01:08:29.300
There was some, there's some other stuff in that order.
01:08:29.340 --> 01:08:32.900
Like if you want to keep going through it, I'm happy to, uh, lend a little
01:08:32.900 --> 01:08:33.700
bit more time to it.
01:08:35.020 --> 01:08:38.420
I don't know how much you guys have gone through, uh, the restraining order,
01:08:38.460 --> 01:08:41.780
but some of the stuff you said was pretty funny to me.
01:08:42.580 --> 01:08:43.580
Well, we went over it.
01:08:43.620 --> 01:08:45.260
Um, gosh, what?
01:08:46.460 --> 01:08:47.460
Tuesday.
01:08:47.500 --> 01:08:48.700
I mean, I know we did Wednesday.
01:08:48.700 --> 01:08:50.420
Why do I keep thinking it was Tuesday?
01:08:50.460 --> 01:08:52.420
Maybe it's just been too long of a week for me.
01:08:52.980 --> 01:08:54.340
Uh, yes.
01:08:54.340 --> 01:08:54.820
Yes.
01:08:54.860 --> 01:08:55.140
Yeah.
01:08:55.180 --> 01:08:59.740
We read it on Ekl and, um, Aussie guy on Tuesday, right?
01:08:59.740 --> 01:09:00.020
Oh yeah.
01:09:00.020 --> 01:09:04.260
I, I haven't watched, uh, I haven't watched anything in like five days.
01:09:04.260 --> 01:09:10.140
So, um, so I haven't caught up, but I did see that you guys had covered it somewhere.
01:09:10.140 --> 01:09:13.140
I just didn't know when it was warm in here.
01:09:14.620 --> 01:09:19.820
Yeah, we, uh, we posted it as soon as we saw it and redacted what we could from
01:09:19.900 --> 01:09:25.060
it, uh, which, you know, that's something that I feel like it's, it doesn't take
01:09:25.060 --> 01:09:25.940
that long to do.
01:09:25.980 --> 01:09:31.420
I don't know why, uh, MN public records doesn't just redact because in this one
01:09:31.420 --> 01:09:34.660
it's got all of his kids, full name, date of birth, you know.
01:09:35.420 --> 01:09:35.660
Yeah.
01:09:35.660 --> 01:09:37.460
I don't know why he put his kids in there.
01:09:37.620 --> 01:09:44.180
Um, on mine, especially as like he didn't, uh, he didn't allege I did
01:09:44.180 --> 01:09:45.900
anything towards his children.
01:09:45.900 --> 01:09:49.660
He just said that his children needed protection from me, which is ludicrous.
01:09:50.220 --> 01:09:56.100
Um, I'll have everybody know like, or note that anytime his children have come
01:09:56.100 --> 01:09:59.820
up on any of the shows that I've been on, even if I'm in the chat, I say, um,
01:09:59.820 --> 01:10:01.660
my kids miss hanging out with those kids.
01:10:01.660 --> 01:10:03.980
I have nothing negative to say about any of them.
01:10:04.500 --> 01:10:06.300
Um, they were really funny and they were really sweet.
01:10:07.100 --> 01:10:12.260
So like, uh, I never have said a negative word about those kids and, um,
01:10:12.300 --> 01:10:15.100
even when other people were, so not, not my thing.
01:10:16.100 --> 01:10:20.340
I think he was just trying to like get as much as he could out of it.
01:10:20.420 --> 01:10:22.340
Oh, if I follow this, it might get out there.
01:10:22.340 --> 01:10:24.780
So it'll just the optics.
01:10:25.340 --> 01:10:25.740
Yeah.
01:10:26.220 --> 01:10:26.540
Oh yeah.
01:10:26.540 --> 01:10:26.940
Yeah.
01:10:27.020 --> 01:10:31.420
And he was, he's hoping that the judge would just grant it, uh, or whatever.
01:10:31.660 --> 01:10:35.580
And then he, I'm sure he wanted to say he's a danger to children or see, you
01:10:35.580 --> 01:10:39.140
can, you could see that's why he put, uh, probably why he put the child
01:10:39.140 --> 01:10:42.540
endangerment charge in the, in the cocaine possession.
01:10:42.860 --> 01:10:43.060
Yeah.
01:10:43.100 --> 01:10:49.900
Um, and, uh, the other, the other thing I think, as I'm looking at this HRO
01:10:49.900 --> 01:10:58.620
and is that he wants, he's, he's been telling everybody that there's criminal
01:10:58.620 --> 01:11:05.060
prosecution coming against, uh, Melton and I over this, over the stupid Google joke.
01:11:06.020 --> 01:11:07.500
Like there isn't a zip file.
01:11:07.900 --> 01:11:10.940
I don't know if anybody knows where there isn't a zip file.
01:11:11.020 --> 01:11:15.660
So when he comes out and he's like, man, you, I mean, the names of the
01:11:15.660 --> 01:11:17.540
people who've received this file.
01:11:17.980 --> 01:11:19.980
Like I was blown away.
01:11:19.980 --> 01:11:22.140
It's like, no one's received the file.
01:11:22.140 --> 01:11:23.540
It doesn't, it's not real.
01:11:24.260 --> 01:11:25.580
It was literally a joke.
01:11:25.860 --> 01:11:27.140
What are you talking about?
01:11:27.460 --> 01:11:30.020
It's like, man, those names are on there.
01:11:30.020 --> 01:11:34.260
Like, wow, I can't believe it's like, who do you think I sent the fake file?
01:11:34.260 --> 01:11:35.380
Like I want to know now.
01:11:35.380 --> 01:11:40.540
I wish I would have, I wish I had a dummy file just to send around to see
01:11:40.540 --> 01:11:44.020
like how far it got, gotten around.
01:11:45.740 --> 01:11:47.860
I'll see guy has received it.
01:11:50.660 --> 01:11:54.460
We've had it for a while, but I always say that he's a, he's probably a
01:11:54.460 --> 01:11:59.900
practitioner of the secret where it's like, you say things into your reality.
01:12:00.100 --> 01:12:02.100
Because he does that all the time.
01:12:02.100 --> 01:12:05.420
I was like, he probably has it on his nightstand, like his Bible.
01:12:06.300 --> 01:12:09.140
He's also the type where he's on his nightstand.
01:12:11.420 --> 01:12:11.940
Gross.
01:12:11.940 --> 01:12:12.620
I don't even want to know.
01:12:12.620 --> 01:12:17.020
He's also the type that throws the fishnet out so wide and
01:12:17.020 --> 01:12:18.540
hopes that he catches a few.
01:12:18.540 --> 01:12:21.620
So very, very well example of that.
01:12:22.140 --> 01:12:26.020
I mean, I guess, I guess he is, he must assume I'm really dumb.
01:12:26.340 --> 01:12:30.780
So like his assumption is I get all this stuff, put it in a zip file.
01:12:30.780 --> 01:12:33.940
Cause I'm a boomer and then send it to everybody.
01:12:34.140 --> 01:12:36.860
Like, cause that would be the smart thing to do.
01:12:36.860 --> 01:12:37.140
Right?
01:12:37.140 --> 01:12:40.380
Like that's how you would do this is you would send it to everybody.
01:12:40.780 --> 01:12:41.380
Out there.
01:12:41.460 --> 01:12:44.740
I mean, that's no one would do this.
01:12:45.100 --> 01:12:49.740
No, actually everyone I know, I'm going to send all of them a zip file.
01:12:49.740 --> 01:12:52.500
Like most of them be like, I don't even have a zip file.
01:12:53.380 --> 01:12:56.420
Have you guys given him a floppy, a floppy disk?
01:12:58.340 --> 01:13:00.780
I never sent him like five of them.
01:13:01.020 --> 01:13:02.620
I can't give him a floppy.
01:13:02.620 --> 01:13:04.940
No, not acceptable.
01:13:05.580 --> 01:13:09.220
No, it's a, it's, it's just such a weird thing, but I think what he's
01:13:09.220 --> 01:13:14.500
finding is like, he's promised this and he's, uh, he's like you said,
01:13:14.940 --> 01:13:15.940
and you're a hundred percent right.
01:13:15.940 --> 01:13:17.620
He's tries to speak things into reality.
01:13:18.220 --> 01:13:22.300
And so he is so thoroughly convinced himself that retributive justice is
01:13:22.300 --> 01:13:27.940
coming for me, um, and, uh, you know, probably other people, but specifically
01:13:27.940 --> 01:13:32.500
for me, and he's told people it's going to happen, it's just not, it's just
01:13:32.500 --> 01:13:37.660
not happening like the, the FBI has not stopped their, uh, raids of government
01:13:37.660 --> 01:13:41.900
facilities and arresting judges to take time out of their day to arrest me for
01:13:41.900 --> 01:13:43.420
my massive computer crime, right?
01:13:43.420 --> 01:13:44.900
Like they just haven't done it yet.
01:13:44.940 --> 01:13:46.420
And he's really getting frustrated.
01:13:46.740 --> 01:13:47.980
And I know the frustration.
01:13:48.140 --> 01:13:52.260
I knew it because he said, he said, uh, when he's like, yeah, the, the local
01:13:52.260 --> 01:13:55.220
guys said that they're going to send it to the FBI field office.
01:13:55.220 --> 01:13:57.420
I'm like, I've heard that before.
01:13:57.420 --> 01:14:02.180
I, when you're talking to the cops and they just, they don't, they want to
01:14:02.180 --> 01:14:06.300
get rid of it, it's now a jurisdictional issue and they've sent it to the federal
01:14:06.300 --> 01:14:10.220
government and the federal government probably don't give a shit.
01:14:10.260 --> 01:14:13.340
Like feds, fed prosecutions, they don't fuck around.
01:14:13.620 --> 01:14:17.780
They don't go, they don't go to bat unless they're really confident.
01:14:18.100 --> 01:14:19.580
Um, they're going to hit it.
01:14:21.460 --> 01:14:21.940
Oh, no.
01:14:24.140 --> 01:14:24.820
What happened?
01:14:26.780 --> 01:14:27.300
Oh, no.
01:14:27.620 --> 01:14:28.180
Oh, no.
01:14:31.620 --> 01:14:32.700
No, you're everybody.
01:14:32.780 --> 01:14:34.380
Everybody just calmed the fuck down.
01:14:35.100 --> 01:14:37.140
I did it whenever the OBS started going off.
01:14:37.140 --> 01:14:37.900
It muted me.
01:14:43.380 --> 01:14:44.460
I mean, I, I did.
01:14:44.540 --> 01:14:45.700
I, like I said, I took over.
01:14:47.460 --> 01:14:51.140
Well, while we're here, yeah, let's just knock this out first.
01:14:51.140 --> 01:14:53.140
And then I promise all yet that goes crusaders.
01:14:53.420 --> 01:14:58.020
It's my fault, I guess, because I have to have OBS on the, on the top of
01:14:58.020 --> 01:15:00.380
everything, whenever the audio plays.
01:15:00.420 --> 01:15:04.300
So if, uh, audio goes through like that and I don't have it up, that's
01:15:04.300 --> 01:15:04.740
what you get.
01:15:04.740 --> 01:15:05.540
So give me a second.
01:15:05.900 --> 01:15:08.500
First of all, we've got Leo who became a new member.
01:15:08.500 --> 01:15:09.260
Thank you for that.
01:15:09.260 --> 01:15:13.340
Leo, uh, Eddie Valentino gifted a pretty anti-social membership.
01:15:13.380 --> 01:15:13.900
Thank you.
01:15:14.060 --> 01:15:15.740
And thanks to whoever got that.
01:15:16.340 --> 01:15:22.220
BMC for 499 says Aaron, Aaron's whole show was just being has just, okay.
01:15:22.220 --> 01:15:22.620
Hold on.
01:15:22.780 --> 01:15:28.140
Aaron's whole show has just been a series of anti-semitic rants,
01:15:28.140 --> 01:15:29.380
racism and misogyny.
01:15:29.580 --> 01:15:31.420
It seems like a lot of misdirected anger.
01:15:31.860 --> 01:15:33.500
Yeah, for sure.
01:15:33.980 --> 01:15:37.700
Uh, Tommy from, from Rhode Island says SB equals stupid person.
01:15:38.180 --> 01:15:38.660
Thank you.
01:15:39.820 --> 01:15:42.420
And then I wonder if she's around anymore.
01:15:42.420 --> 01:15:47.300
I just like his level of unhinged is so weird.
01:15:47.420 --> 01:15:48.980
She didn't show up with him in court.
01:15:49.060 --> 01:15:51.100
And it's like, what were you, were you protecting her?
01:15:51.100 --> 01:15:54.940
Because like, I'm not sure exactly what that is.
01:15:54.940 --> 01:16:01.580
I, I strongly, I starting to buy into the theory that, uh, that she is gone.
01:16:02.060 --> 01:16:06.460
And I think maybe that might be why his anger towards women has seemingly
01:16:06.460 --> 01:16:09.780
escalated even, even since in the past months.
01:16:10.460 --> 01:16:10.940
Me too.
01:16:11.060 --> 01:16:14.740
And if you've watched some of the text messages, we have some tonight that I'll
01:16:14.740 --> 01:16:22.180
show you that, uh, it just seems very, another Venmo came in from whoever, you
01:16:22.180 --> 01:16:23.860
know, it's, it's got that vibe to it.
01:16:23.860 --> 01:16:27.020
And it's like, when he, you can tell the difference between when he actually
01:16:27.020 --> 01:16:30.700
reads something, when he looks down and he's just, you know, coming off the top
01:16:30.700 --> 01:16:32.340
of his head, it's just interesting.
01:16:32.340 --> 01:16:32.980
It's very interesting.
01:16:32.980 --> 01:16:33.180
All right.
01:16:33.180 --> 01:16:34.020
Let me play these real quick.
01:16:34.460 --> 01:16:36.820
Venmo for a $70.
01:16:36.820 --> 01:16:38.220
Thank you from Steve.
01:16:38.700 --> 01:16:39.220
Yeah.
01:16:39.620 --> 01:16:40.020
Yeah.
01:16:40.020 --> 01:16:41.340
800 the other day.
01:16:41.860 --> 01:16:43.500
And he asked, why are you so handsome?
01:16:43.540 --> 01:16:43.780
Wow.
01:16:43.780 --> 01:16:44.740
Thanks Steve.
01:16:50.340 --> 01:16:51.340
Jack, will you read that?
01:16:52.220 --> 01:16:53.380
Oh, oh man.
01:16:53.380 --> 01:16:54.660
I had the worst dream.
01:16:55.140 --> 01:16:55.500
First.
01:16:55.500 --> 01:16:57.860
I decided to embrace Matt and Johnny as friends.
01:16:57.900 --> 01:16:58.380
Truly.
01:16:58.660 --> 01:17:00.780
The show took on a more positive tone.
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After that, I wished all of my ex-wives, the best and really focused on my kids.
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It was horrible.
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Oh man.
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I had the worst dream.
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No, shut up, Nick.
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You are just scared that my boy cash in on it.
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You and Melton are done.
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I'll see you both down to Chinatown.
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Another win for the toe, the hero of Minnesota.
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All right.
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Skip that one and then Moody.
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Moody said, okay.
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All right.
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My read on the situation is that he is that he lost quote unquote lost and needs a
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quote unquote win in his zero sum game.
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The only experiences he's had, the only experience he's had with HROs has
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been, has both included no mention orders and were made by women.
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He thought it would be easy to get one because he's a misogynist and if a woman
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can do it, then so can he.
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He would then spend his next year or so trying to go Nick into talking about him
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and breaking the HRO.
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It's a mixture of, of zero sum game mindset, vengeance, misogyny, and him
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thinking he's smarter than he is.
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Do you think that's accurate?
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I also think, can you hold on?
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Oh, you pull that back up.
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Yeah, just, just for a second.
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I want to read the one part again.
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Let's see.
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Okay.
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So, yeah, trying to go Nick into talking about him and breaking the HRO.
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He thinks I believe that I am trying to goad him into breaking his
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own release conditions, right?
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Like I think that he thinks that when I tweet or something and it involves him
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or I make fun of him, that that is me trying to get him to violate his
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release conditions when it's actually, you know, much the opposite.
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It's just, you're talking about me all the time.
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So, you know, I'll talk back from time to time, but I would still prefer that
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you just follow your release conditions.
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That would be, that would be nice.
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Like, I just, I just think maybe there's a person there who, who you should be
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considering, but, you know, like that's just my thoughts on it.
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And I think that Moody's spot on because I think that he thinks I'm doing that.
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So he's like, okay, well, I'll, I'll do that then I can do that.
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The difference is like, if I have to, I actually can avoid talking about a subject.
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Like I have that ability to do that.
I really don't care if he talks about me at all.
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He does all the time and it has no impact, um, on like my show numbers or
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anything has basically no impact on me.
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And so, you know, it's like, go ahead and do that if that's what you need to do.
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If you want to make content off of it, you not the first person, but, uh, but
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you gotta leave her alone.
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And that's, it's that simple.
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You, when you overstep and I'm perfectly capable of knowing what
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overstepping looks like, uh, when you overstep, you give up your, uh, some
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portion of your rights, like that's how the legal system works.
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They, they don't, the way they look at it or the way it should be looked at is
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it's not being taken away from you.
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You forfeited part of it.
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So like for me, I forfeited part of my liberty on substance use by abusing
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substances, right, and doing it in a, in an illegal manner.
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So now, um, I have restrictions on legal activity, like drinking alcohol.
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Okay.
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Like I had to give that up.
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Like that's, that's part of it.
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Um, I, you know, his, his part of it is not talking about Kayla and it's really
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not hard, but most people in the world do that every day.
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They just don't talk about her.
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Mm-hmm.
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If he uses Riketa in a plural sense, is that enough to be indirectly speaking of her?
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I mean, it seems like it would be to me.
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In fact, so, um, I'm not his lawyer, obviously, uh, the, the conservative
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thing would be to say you should really be very careful and limit how much you
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even say about Nick, because any of these stories that involve Nick and Kayla, and
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you try and frame it as just one person, like, and they, they don't make sense,
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then those stories will be indirectly referencing, uh, the person that would
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be the conservative way to do it.
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I mean, uh, obviously no one's perfect at that.
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Um, my preference is just that he just not mentioned her.
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Like she's trying to be private.
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She is not on the internet.
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She's not commenting.
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He has a platform.
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She doesn't, and he abused that platform to abuse her.
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And so now he, he just doesn't get to anymore.
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Yeah.
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The whole thing is just gross.
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Like just seeing that she had texted him near hours before he went on to Kino
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Casino and just the day before he sent the photo saying, just keep, keep all
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this stuff like to yourself, like don't say anything and then went out and just
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was like, Oh, look at me.
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I'm a he man of this.
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And let me talk intimately about this, that, and the third and everything.
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And then, and then try to come off like, Oh, I'm this victim of this thing.
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This is why I sent it because I didn't feel like a man.
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It's just like, are you fricking kidding me?
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It adds more into the element of intent and the intention was to harm.
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Yes.
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And again, it's not my text.
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So I haven't shared it, but he responded to her and he responded to that text
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and he's never shown it on screen and he never talks about it, but his response
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to her was, I recognize effectively, I recognize that even when I talk
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positively about you, it causes you harm.
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Those, those are the words that causes you harm.
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He's like, I don't, I don't mean to speak negatively about you, but I recognize
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because of basically, because of what you're telling me in this text that any
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mention of you causes you harm and I will not do it anymore.
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That was his response.
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And then the next day he did the, you know, the, sent the picture.
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And talk about her like a romantic, like that was when he spoke about her the
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most and was like the most romantically.
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I don't know that everything he was talking about with her was like so
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overblown, the snow angels and the were soulmates forever.
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And it's just very interesting to hear that dichotomy because we, we didn't
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know that other side of things, you know?
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I mentioned this a couple of times and I really hope someone like you guys pick it
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up, it's not subtle that I want you guys to look into it because you're so good at
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this stuff, but from the time that he was out, which is April 11th, right?
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The night of April 11th, by the way, I love that, um, win by two, when he put
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together that compilation for me, the first clip is from April 11th and it's
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his night show before, before, or his morning show, before all of that happened.
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He's like, yeah, I'm going to go hang out with the Raketas.
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And I was like, wow, this night's going to end way different than you think.
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He's going to be catastrophic for you.
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Um, but, uh, if you go between April 11th and, um, our arrest on May 23rd, uh,
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there are several instances where he just goes off about people fucking telling him
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what he can and can't say and how much it pisses him off and those people better
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stop it, they better watch out.
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Every time he did that was in response to, I believe it was April typically.
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I think Kayla only asked him the one time, um, but it was in response to April.
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Uh, and sometimes they think April was asking on Kayla's behalf, like, please
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stop mentioning us, like, please just leave us alone or whatever.
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And mind you, she and he at the time, no one knows this, uh, or no one knew this
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at the time were in, they were already talking like about divorce, they were
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entering divorce negotiations.
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So he's sitting there making these threats during this process and he's
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threatening to say everything.
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A bunch of people laugh because, um, you know, he said that, uh, that I wanted,
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uh, April to get an NDA out of him.
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It's like, I wasn't me who wanted that.
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Everybody wanted you to just leave us alone, like just please leave us alone.
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And, um, and so, you know, he's reacting to that constantly and all those threats.
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So what he does is he does, or what he doesn't like is someone telling him what
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to do, especially if it's a woman.
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He hates it.
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And so when April would be like, Hey man, like, you gotta stop talking about us
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this way, please like, stop, we have families, um, you know, we're just
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trying to get by and recover from like all this and we're trying to move, move
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on with life and you're, you're moving on with life and just, just stop.
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And every time that's when he would have this like a massive tirade.
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So it's not surprising to me at all that Kayla says, please, uh, don't mention me.
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And he's like, yeah, I won't.
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And then just fucking bombs all over the place with it because that's his revenge.
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And he's, he's like, he's sinister on this issue and he's sinister with women
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and how he responds to them.
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I don't know if like his mother was a controlled control person or something,
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but I don't know where this comes from for him.
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I never got the story on like, why, I mean, I know his dad, like, I don't know.
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It looks like he ate Domino's pizza, not a Domino's pizza, Domino's pizza.
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And with all the cancer that that would cause, um, his dad, like is a weirdo.
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It's like, yeah, but I don't know anything about his mom or how she does.
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And, and so, um, I don't know what did it, but something, something has broken
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him where if, if a woman suggests anything, I mean, you guys mentioned shirts.
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He has no goes on about shirts.
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It's like, what, what is happening?
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Why do you even care?
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Oh my God.
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I think that Florida shirt, the one that's, uh, the one that has a
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fucking brightness meter on it.
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I think that's from a brand called chubbies.
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Just to Malibu Ken chubbies shirt.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There's a problem.
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Ken has a body that is desirable.
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No, this is Ken post Barbie breakup.
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You know, he had so much of the hogs and dogs and all that.
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So, you know, they were big feelings.
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They're very, very big feelings.
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No, it's, um, so that, that whole thing with, uh, with his explosive
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reaction towards women talking to him was happening behind the scenes starts in
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April, if anybody ever like goes and looks, so I remember some of the tirades
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uh, because, you know, I'd be, I'd be sitting there with, um, with Kayla and
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April while they're like crying, you know, as, as he's just unloading on them
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and then threatening, I mean, he's, he's threatening to, uh, you know, release
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all this private stuff as early as April directly, directly against, uh, April and
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Kayla, he had already started talking negatively about me and he didn't like
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that.
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I told him to kill himself really seems to bother him.
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Yeah.
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People tell me to kill myself every hour.
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Like get over it.
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Yes.
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It's cause it was from you, Nick.
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I know.
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Put my heart emoji at the end of it.
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Broken heart fire or whatever.
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Well, it's actually because, uh, so on Wednesday we're going to be talking
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about narcissistic injury.
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And so it's like all of this, it just feels like that because every
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feeling, anytime like he gets hurt, it's like he has to hurt someone else
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10 times more.
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And it, and even though that he says that he's in this like loving relationship,
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his life is great.
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His life is good.
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He's moved on.
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He still cannot move on and needs to continue to, I guess, like chop you all
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down and especially April and stuff too, to make himself feel better
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about the situation.
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So his reaction, his reaction to April cleaning out the closet and leaving,
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which was a couple of days before, right?
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Like the 11th, but I think that happened on the seventh or the eighth.
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His reaction was so small.
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It was just, uh, his message to me was, you know, came home to this kid saw it.
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Uh, you know, I don't even care kind of thing.
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Like it wasn't no care.
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It was, it was just like, so, so defeated and it's so opposite of how he
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reacted, reacts to everything.
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There was no positive spin.
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There's no, but there wasn't even a big blow up.
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It was like this.
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And, and, you know, I, we're friends at the time, little strange relationship,
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but we're, we're friends.
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And so I'm talking to my friend and I'm like, Hey, I didn't, I didn't know
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she was doing this.
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I think that's really shitty.
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I was really, I was really mad at her because she just told me she's going up
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to grab a couple of things from the house and she comes back with a truck full of
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everything she owns just about.
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And she's like, so, uh, where should I put this?
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I'm like, I guess the other house, you can't put it here.
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We don't have any room for like this stuff, you know, but, um, but, uh, I'm
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like, I don't think you should have done it that way.
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There's no way you're going to communicate with someone after doing that.
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I think that was, that was the wrong move.
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Um, but I'm, I'm talking to him and he starts, he approached it
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like putting in the work.
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He's like, Oh, I'm going to, you know, well, I'll write this letter, right?
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Like he wrote, he scribbled out his kindergarten note and, uh, and he was so
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proud of it and he has a message to me that says like, you're going to be so
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proud of this letter, right?
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I should find it because like, you're so proud.
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I totally take ownership.
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And I use the I word that you taught me.
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Oh my Lord.
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He couldn't say I, he could only say we, uh, if,
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yes, he says we collectively all the time, but this is a specific to, um, when,
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when he and April were fighting, uh, or having a discussion and they, they got
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calm finally and they were talking to each other and that took hours.
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Um, it was a bad fight, which like, I understand, uh, but they, they get to
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the point where they're finally talking.
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And so like April's like, you know, uh, you, you sometimes do this and I do
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this and et cetera, et cetera.
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He would, whenever there was something negative, he would not use the word I.
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I listened for two hours, not one instance of the word I, when it involved
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a negative thing, he was identifying.
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It was always we, we sometimes raise our voices, we get aggressive.
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Uh, we do this, we get in each other's faces.
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We can get a little bit more physical than we want.
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Like those are the types of things and it's always we, and I went to him and
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I'm like, Hey man, like you, you didn't say the word I, not once everything
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that you blamed yourself for.
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He's like, no, I was totally talking about things that we do.
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And I'm like, but, but we doesn't happen there.
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Like I've, I've watched you guys and April doesn't do that or
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that or that or that you do.
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And he's like, well, yeah, that's what I said.
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I said, no, you said we.
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And so his letter where he says, I did all this.
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I'm very proud that all those eyes are from me.
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Like I made that happen.
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You're welcome.
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Very nice.
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That responsibility he's got to, he cannot take full ownership.
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That's wild.
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No, his, his brain does not let him be negative or be, uh, anything shy of the
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hero, um, his, like the, the weird, the wild stories are the ones where you hear
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him doing something heroic or magnanimous or however you want to phrase it.
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And that was someone else.
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Like it was, it was a hundred percent someone else in that situation.
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And his brain just supplants him into that person.
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And I don't know if he knows, like, I really don't know if he
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knows that that's not true.
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And so then, you know, we're sitting there listening, going, no, no, no,
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that wasn't, it wasn't you.
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He did make SpaghettiOs one time.
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Like that happened.
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I'm proud of him.
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Um, and using a spoon to scoop it out into the microwave dish.
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He didn't even make them on the stove.
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Like it was the easiest thing ever.
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Very, very unfair.
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Put it in for enough time.
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Or was it just, you know, that 20 seconds short where you still get that cold
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spot and you're like, damn, I don't know.
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I didn't need them.
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Like you didn't make me for me.
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I asked, I was, I was too coked out unconscious on a bed because
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that's how cocaine works.
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You guys know that.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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When you do lots of cocaine, you just, you actually lay down and you don't want
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it, that's, that's, that's that story.
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I don't, no one seemed to pay attention.
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He goes, there are three people just coked out on the bed and they just can't get up.
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So I'm the one who has to go as the sober guy.
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I'm like, I would have made 85 bowls.
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What are you talking about?
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You made one.
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You should try cocaine.
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I was going to have five bowls ready.
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Fine.
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I got a microwave in four pots.
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Oh, man.
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Yeah.
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So he, that's, that's how he operates.
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And, and like to watch, to watch all this happen in this way where, and it just
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keeps going and this, this is what makes him an absolute nightmare is when someone
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believes, when someone believes in inherently, I guess, the reality they've
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constructed and the people around can go objectively go, but this isn't right.
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Like this isn't true.
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That person, that person becomes, I don't want to say dangerous.
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I don't want to put that on, but that's, that's where, that's where the possibility
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of danger starts to rise because now it's like, okay, they're disconnected from
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reality, they believe they're the hero and they believe literal villains now
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because once, if you take away all of your negative characteristics and you imprint
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them on whoever's around you and you take away all of their positive
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characteristics and supplant yourself into those, you've now created a hero and
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a villain and that, that villain becomes, you know, a target for the hero in, in
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various ways, I'm not saying that they're in physical danger, but certainly their
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wrath and ire can be experienced and you can watch it happen live.
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It's happening.
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It's happening to me, but you know, that that's fine.
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Well, and it's also, when you do that, you can't see the gray, like everything
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has to be strictly black, white, and there is no reasoning whatsoever.
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And something that I've also noticed though, too, is that when things
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continue to happen and it's in the negative, when it happens to him is that
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he starts to circle the wagons around himself with the people that, and honestly,
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like his fans and stuff that he knows will stay there to build him back up for
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him to have that confidence to spread himself back out.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And his, he's such an interesting situation because like his, his show, his
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show is what makes all of this so much different.
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I don't, I don't know how to even word it.
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My show now, sweet, but like the fact that he has this show and it's so hyper
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localized and the audience is, um, hyper, uh, curated, we'll say like the legit
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audience, uh, who support him, but it's, it's enough.
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It's enough for a struggle session a day, uh, to get by for him and, and to,
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to do like, he makes enough money.
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I mean, assuming he's not lying about the numbers, he makes enough money.
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I wonder if, I wonder if there's some way to get discovery on that coming up.
58:28.340 --> 58:33.620
I don't know, um, about like, you know, what happens when, when I try to take
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money from you, uh, because of frivolous litigation, I'm not sure if there's
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discovery on that, but there might be, uh, anyway, so assuming his
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numbers are accurate, you know, he makes decent enough money.
58:47.020 --> 58:50.740
Um, but it, it creates this insular place.
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And you guys have talked about this, right?
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Like he is self-reinforced by this group of probably equally, um, touched
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individuals, right?
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Like in some way or another, uh, either they have, they have, uh, they have a
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hilarious approach to life and they go, this is funny because this is so
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disconnected and they, maybe they don't see it because of their own, their own
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past, uh, maybe they have, maybe they have a similar issue with women or they
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identify with some other thing that he rants about like Jews or whatever, like
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the Sam show guy or whatever, like if, if that self-reinforcing group never wants
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to see him fail because he is representative of them, like he's the
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blank hero slate for them to go off of.
59:39.700 --> 59:46.220
So then it, it reinforces narcissistic tendencies like so heavily and, and he
59:46.220 --> 59:51.380
literally can't lose, like he cannot lose in his mind and it's, I don't know what
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it's going to take, but I think when he finally realizes that he has lost in a
59:56.340 --> 01:00:01.620
real way and it might be, it might be at sentencing, um, it might be, you know, in
01:00:01.620 --> 01:00:06.820
a civil suit or something that might follow anything like that, um, it'll be
01:00:06.820 --> 01:00:10.700
interesting to see it crash down, like what will happen when his wall is broken.
01:00:11.380 --> 01:00:11.860
Yeah.
01:00:12.060 --> 01:00:14.660
Well, it's just like, cause it's funny.
01:00:15.540 --> 01:00:21.780
His audience doesn't help that with his narcissistic ego thing at all.
01:00:22.060 --> 01:00:24.580
It's like, if you even think about the goal, right.
01:00:24.940 --> 01:00:31.700
And, um, you know, and they play with him into, and they play into it when it
01:00:31.700 --> 01:00:35.060
comes to, okay, we're going to see him sweat until the end, and then we're
01:00:35.060 --> 01:00:36.140
going to give him all this money.
01:00:36.140 --> 01:00:37.940
So that means he's great, whatever.
01:00:38.260 --> 01:00:41.660
But what's also funny though, too, is something that he had mentioned before is
01:00:41.660 --> 01:00:47.500
like when he would compare himself to you, he would be like, well, I'm the
01:00:47.500 --> 01:00:51.380
king of Minnesota, you see, like, cause if you go around Minnesota, they don't
01:00:51.380 --> 01:00:56.180
know who Nick regatta is, they know, they know the toe, you know, but even though
01:00:56.180 --> 01:01:00.380
that he's known, you know, other places, but in Minnesota, I'm king.
01:01:00.460 --> 01:01:06.620
And so it's weird, different little mechanisms that he has built in his own
01:01:06.620 --> 01:01:12.820
brain to make sure like, oh no, but I'm still better than this person.
01:01:13.140 --> 01:01:13.420
Yeah.
01:01:13.420 --> 01:01:21.140
He thinks it's, it's actually interesting is so over the past seven years, I've
01:01:21.140 --> 01:01:24.860
thought a lot about social media, monetization, marketing, and I've learned
01:01:24.860 --> 01:01:31.300
a lot about it and he's a product of, of the old world of doing things, right?
01:01:31.300 --> 01:01:36.780
Like old terrestrial radio, which has its advertising structure, which if you
01:01:36.780 --> 01:01:41.380
think about terrestrial radio and add, add payments on there, all you can think
01:01:41.380 --> 01:01:45.140
is why in fuck is anybody buying ads on terrestrial radio anymore?
01:01:45.140 --> 01:01:49.900
Like nobody is listening to this for a significant amount of time to, uh, to
01:01:49.900 --> 01:01:54.020
deal with, um, so to listen to the ads and be engaged, there's no engagement
01:01:54.020 --> 01:02:00.260
at all live streams and live content is engaging and Aaron should know this
01:02:00.620 --> 01:02:06.140
because his entire life, um, uh, his entire economic reality is based on
01:02:06.140 --> 01:02:09.740
this, the relationship that you build between specific members of a broader
01:02:09.740 --> 01:02:14.020
audience is how you make your bread and butter, but those people, they don't
01:02:14.020 --> 01:02:16.780
just donate to like your show or pay you directly.
01:02:16.780 --> 01:02:20.940
They're the ones who are the most valuable advertising targets, uh, of all
01:02:20.940 --> 01:02:25.380
time, because on your recommendation, they will actually do it like the guy,
01:02:25.780 --> 01:02:30.620
the guy who hears you in a car, uh, you know, on his way to work, he might
01:02:30.620 --> 01:02:35.140
remember an ad that you said when that need arises and that's, that's the bank
01:02:35.140 --> 01:02:38.980
role it's like, we're going to put this much money into, into these radio spots
01:02:39.060 --> 01:02:42.620
and we're going to hope that someone remembers a triple a towing when their
01:02:42.620 --> 01:02:46.900
car needs and it's like, you're just better off being, uh, you know, double
01:02:46.900 --> 01:02:49.660
a plus towing and getting ahead of them in the phone book here.
01:02:49.660 --> 01:02:51.740
Honestly, that's, that's the fastest way.
01:02:51.820 --> 01:02:54.780
That's why the best bonds are always a or AA bail bonds.
01:02:55.300 --> 01:03:02.820
But, um, but so you, you have this and then you, he doesn't realize that, um,
01:03:03.100 --> 01:03:07.060
and a lot of people don't seem to realize like how valuable that engagement is.
01:03:07.060 --> 01:03:12.700
And, and so when you disconnect, uh, that engagement from, from everything,
01:03:12.700 --> 01:03:17.100
he's like, uh, yeah, so in, in Minnesota, I got, I got these numbers and it's
01:03:17.100 --> 01:03:20.580
like, it doesn't matter where you have numbers, it matters where you have
01:03:20.580 --> 01:03:24.860
engagement and his, his thought is that his morning radio numbers translates
01:03:24.860 --> 01:03:31.540
into his fame, um, but again, uh, Oh, there, there was that guy on the
01:03:31.540 --> 01:03:35.940
radio is, is the level of fame and understanding that people have.
01:03:35.940 --> 01:03:38.380
And he talks about being seen all the time.
01:03:38.460 --> 01:03:41.300
I spent significant amounts of time with this guy in St.
01:03:41.300 --> 01:03:46.260
Cloud and never once saw someone come up to him, uh, and say, hi, like,
01:03:46.260 --> 01:03:47.660
Hey, what's up your steel toe?
01:03:47.820 --> 01:03:52.620
Never once, not at a bar other than like a guy he, he knew one of the sponsors.
01:03:52.940 --> 01:03:54.180
Oh, came there.
01:03:54.180 --> 01:03:56.660
One of the sponsors of the show came there and got a DUI that night.
01:03:56.660 --> 01:03:57.060
Good job.
01:03:57.380 --> 01:04:05.180
That guy, but, uh, yeah, so he, he just, he has this weird thing where he has to
01:04:05.180 --> 01:04:08.060
be, he has to one up me and I'm like, I don't care if you're like the most
01:04:08.060 --> 01:04:09.980
famous person in Minnesota guy, go for it.
01:04:10.260 --> 01:04:12.140
I don't, I don't want to be that.
01:04:13.140 --> 01:04:15.660
I w I would love all the perks that come with fame, but I don't really
01:04:15.660 --> 01:04:16.580
want to be that famous.
01:04:16.580 --> 01:04:18.340
It's a lot of work to do that.
01:04:18.660 --> 01:04:22.540
And, um, and, uh, it's not all that it's cracked up to be.
01:04:26.300 --> 01:04:29.700
Anyway, well, that part of everything really pushes button.
01:04:29.700 --> 01:04:36.860
So, you know, anyway, um, by the way, one last thing, sorry, if you, if
01:04:36.860 --> 01:04:39.540
you take my subscriber count, since we'll just do it this way, if you take
01:04:39.540 --> 01:04:44.220
my subscriber count and you distribute it per capita based on state populations,
01:04:44.220 --> 01:04:49.620
I'm more famous than Aaron, even with that, that fraction of my subscribers
01:04:49.620 --> 01:04:51.260
is bigger than his channel still.
01:04:55.460 --> 01:04:56.980
That's just how it goes.
01:04:56.980 --> 01:04:58.740
Like it's just how it goes.
01:04:58.860 --> 01:05:02.420
That was not a call to, uh, to any sort of contact with him.
01:05:02.780 --> 01:05:04.780
Again, I want to reiterate to everybody.
01:05:04.940 --> 01:05:09.060
I do not support contacting in or bothering him in any way or watching,
01:05:09.060 --> 01:05:10.380
like watching or not watching his show.
01:05:10.380 --> 01:05:11.020
No comments.
01:05:11.020 --> 01:05:12.060
I disavow all of them.
01:05:13.100 --> 01:05:13.940
I should have said that earlier.
01:05:15.220 --> 01:05:18.580
I think, yeah, same.
01:05:20.180 --> 01:05:21.700
Your HROs are in the mail.
01:05:21.900 --> 01:05:22.380
I know.
01:05:23.500 --> 01:05:27.180
We were talking about that pre-game on if we can shut up to Minnesota, we can
01:05:27.180 --> 01:05:29.940
expect the step off the plane.
01:05:30.260 --> 01:05:32.620
I was going to make a joke about him hiring me to write the
01:05:32.620 --> 01:05:37.300
HROs against you guys, but I don't know how far these jokes can go.
01:05:38.180 --> 01:05:42.580
It's such a ludicrous HRO that like, it's like, I should be able to talk
01:05:42.780 --> 01:05:46.860
about this before my hearing date, which is still that's 10 days away.
01:05:47.740 --> 01:05:51.740
But, um, Oh, people have asked, uh, I, I do have counsel on this.
01:05:51.780 --> 01:05:54.700
I think anyone should have noticed there was a certificate of
01:05:54.700 --> 01:05:56.940
reptile and they, that was in there.
01:05:56.940 --> 01:05:59.060
But people were asking if I have a lawyer on this.
01:05:59.060 --> 01:05:59.860
Yes, I do.
01:06:00.460 --> 01:06:02.700
Um, it's my criminal defense attorney.
01:06:02.860 --> 01:06:06.100
Uh, he handles, he's handled plenty of HROs.
01:06:06.420 --> 01:06:08.940
I've handled plenty of HROs too, on both sides of it.
01:06:09.020 --> 01:06:14.420
And, uh, I was thinking about going in and just being really, really, really
01:06:14.500 --> 01:06:18.700
thorough, but then I decided to hire someone else instead, cause it's
01:06:18.700 --> 01:06:22.300
like, it's just so, it's so tiring.
01:06:22.980 --> 01:06:27.940
Um, but, uh, yeah, I told him, I told him I, I want to be extremely
01:06:27.940 --> 01:06:31.700
aggressive on going after the fees because, uh, I shouldn't
01:06:31.700 --> 01:06:32.740
have to hire anybody for this.
01:06:33.740 --> 01:06:34.540
Yeah, that's wild.
01:06:34.580 --> 01:06:38.100
You would think whoever filed it should be, you know, responsible
01:06:38.100 --> 01:06:41.180
for any fees, it's weird that they make someone who's on the
01:06:41.180 --> 01:06:43.380
defensive pay for all of that.
01:06:43.380 --> 01:06:43.660
But.
01:06:44.180 --> 01:06:47.940
Well, it's, I mean, I don't have to, I could go in and represent myself, right?
01:06:47.940 --> 01:06:52.900
Like it's my choice to hire a lawyer and it's, yeah, it's my choice to put
01:06:52.900 --> 01:06:57.020
together, uh, uh, uh, you know, a thorough defense, but I'm going to put
01:06:57.020 --> 01:06:57.980
together a thorough defense.
01:06:57.980 --> 01:06:58.700
I'm on probation.
01:06:58.700 --> 01:07:01.980
I'm not going to have, I'm not going to have a set of criminal prosecution
01:07:01.980 --> 01:07:04.060
hanging over my head for something I didn't do.
01:07:04.540 --> 01:07:04.900
Right.
01:07:05.900 --> 01:07:06.260
Yeah.
01:07:06.300 --> 01:07:10.100
So that's, that should be, again, that should be expected.
01:07:10.100 --> 01:07:14.220
And that's why I'll be asking the judge for permission to, uh, to file a rule nine.
01:07:15.020 --> 01:07:17.180
Um, that's the other shitty element to it.
01:07:17.180 --> 01:07:18.380
And I completely forgot about it.
01:07:18.380 --> 01:07:21.220
It's like, how could it affect your probation?
01:07:22.460 --> 01:07:22.900
It does.
01:07:26.180 --> 01:07:27.020
Unless I get arrested.
01:07:27.420 --> 01:07:31.940
Like if I, if I got arrested, if I got arrested, it technically doesn't either.
01:07:31.940 --> 01:07:36.180
I would have to be convicted of, uh, you know, the misdemeanor violation
01:07:36.180 --> 01:07:39.940
of the restraining order, um, to really affect my probation.
01:07:39.940 --> 01:07:43.420
But anytime I have contact with police, like I have to report it.
01:07:43.740 --> 01:07:46.940
And even if I didn't, even if I didn't do anything, if I like
01:07:46.940 --> 01:07:50.100
witnessed a car accident and the cops show up and they're like, like, I
01:07:50.100 --> 01:07:54.540
have to report that like anytime I talk to the cops at all and they're
01:07:54.540 --> 01:07:57.980
identifiable and it's, and it's clearly an interaction between a civilian
01:07:57.980 --> 01:07:58.780
and a police officer.
01:07:59.180 --> 01:08:04.300
Like if I'm talking to my neighbor, uh, who isn't my former neighbor was a
01:08:04.300 --> 01:08:04.860
state trooper.
01:08:05.140 --> 01:08:08.340
So if I was talking to him, just to like out on the lawn, that's different.
01:08:08.740 --> 01:08:15.460
But anything else I have to, I have to, I had to tell my, uh, PO that I got,
01:08:15.500 --> 01:08:18.540
you know, uh, this restraining order because I was served by a sheriff.
01:08:18.980 --> 01:08:26.020
So I guess I had contact with police, but, uh, they didn't seem to care.
01:08:27.020 --> 01:08:29.300
There was some, there's some other stuff in that order.
01:08:29.340 --> 01:08:32.900
Like if you want to keep going through it, I'm happy to, uh, lend a little
01:08:32.900 --> 01:08:33.700
bit more time to it.
01:08:35.020 --> 01:08:38.420
I don't know how much you guys have gone through, uh, the restraining order,
01:08:38.460 --> 01:08:41.780
but some of the stuff you said was pretty funny to me.
01:08:42.580 --> 01:08:43.580
Well, we went over it.
01:08:43.620 --> 01:08:45.260
Um, gosh, what?
01:08:46.460 --> 01:08:47.460
Tuesday.
01:08:47.500 --> 01:08:48.700
I mean, I know we did Wednesday.
01:08:48.700 --> 01:08:50.420
Why do I keep thinking it was Tuesday?
01:08:50.460 --> 01:08:52.420
Maybe it's just been too long of a week for me.
01:08:52.980 --> 01:08:54.340
Uh, yes.
01:08:54.340 --> 01:08:54.820
Yes.
01:08:54.860 --> 01:08:55.140
Yeah.
01:08:55.180 --> 01:08:59.740
We read it on Ekl and, um, Aussie guy on Tuesday, right?
01:08:59.740 --> 01:09:00.020
Oh yeah.
01:09:00.020 --> 01:09:04.260
I, I haven't watched, uh, I haven't watched anything in like five days.
01:09:04.260 --> 01:09:10.140
So, um, so I haven't caught up, but I did see that you guys had covered it somewhere.
01:09:10.140 --> 01:09:13.140
I just didn't know when it was warm in here.
01:09:14.620 --> 01:09:19.820
Yeah, we, uh, we posted it as soon as we saw it and redacted what we could from
01:09:19.900 --> 01:09:25.060
it, uh, which, you know, that's something that I feel like it's, it doesn't take
01:09:25.060 --> 01:09:25.940
that long to do.
01:09:25.980 --> 01:09:31.420
I don't know why, uh, MN public records doesn't just redact because in this one
01:09:31.420 --> 01:09:34.660
it's got all of his kids, full name, date of birth, you know.
01:09:35.420 --> 01:09:35.660
Yeah.
01:09:35.660 --> 01:09:37.460
I don't know why he put his kids in there.
01:09:37.620 --> 01:09:44.180
Um, on mine, especially as like he didn't, uh, he didn't allege I did
01:09:44.180 --> 01:09:45.900
anything towards his children.
01:09:45.900 --> 01:09:49.660
He just said that his children needed protection from me, which is ludicrous.
01:09:50.220 --> 01:09:56.100
Um, I'll have everybody know like, or note that anytime his children have come
01:09:56.100 --> 01:09:59.820
up on any of the shows that I've been on, even if I'm in the chat, I say, um,
01:09:59.820 --> 01:10:01.660
my kids miss hanging out with those kids.
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I have nothing negative to say about any of them.
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Um, they were really funny and they were really sweet.
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So like, uh, I never have said a negative word about those kids and, um,
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even when other people were, so not, not my thing.
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I think he was just trying to like get as much as he could out of it.
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Oh, if I follow this, it might get out there.
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So it'll just the optics.
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Yeah.
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Oh yeah.
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Yeah.
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And he was, he's hoping that the judge would just grant it, uh, or whatever.
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And then he, I'm sure he wanted to say he's a danger to children or see, you
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can, you could see that's why he put, uh, probably why he put the child
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endangerment charge in the, in the cocaine possession.
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Yeah.
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Um, and, uh, the other, the other thing I think, as I'm looking at this HRO
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and is that he wants, he's, he's been telling everybody that there's criminal
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prosecution coming against, uh, Melton and I over this, over the stupid Google joke.
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Like there isn't a zip file.
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I don't know if anybody knows where there isn't a zip file.
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So when he comes out and he's like, man, you, I mean, the names of the
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people who've received this file.
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Like I was blown away.
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It's like, no one's received the file.
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It doesn't, it's not real.
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It was literally a joke.
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What are you talking about?
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It's like, man, those names are on there.
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Like, wow, I can't believe it's like, who do you think I sent the fake file?
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Like I want to know now.
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I wish I would have, I wish I had a dummy file just to send around to see
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like how far it got, gotten around.
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I'll see guy has received it.
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We've had it for a while, but I always say that he's a, he's probably a
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practitioner of the secret where it's like, you say things into your reality.
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Because he does that all the time.
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I was like, he probably has it on his nightstand, like his Bible.
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He's also the type where he's on his nightstand.
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Gross.
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I don't even want to know.
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He's also the type that throws the fishnet out so wide and
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hopes that he catches a few.
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So very, very well example of that.
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I mean, I guess, I guess he is, he must assume I'm really dumb.
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So like his assumption is I get all this stuff, put it in a zip file.
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Cause I'm a boomer and then send it to everybody.
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Like, cause that would be the smart thing to do.
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Right?
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Like that's how you would do this is you would send it to everybody.
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Out there.
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I mean, that's no one would do this.
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No, actually everyone I know, I'm going to send all of them a zip file.
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Like most of them be like, I don't even have a zip file.
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Have you guys given him a floppy, a floppy disk?
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I never sent him like five of them.
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I can't give him a floppy.
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No, not acceptable.
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No, it's a, it's, it's just such a weird thing, but I think what he's
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finding is like, he's promised this and he's, uh, he's like you said,
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and you're a hundred percent right.
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He's tries to speak things into reality.
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And so he is so thoroughly convinced himself that retributive justice is
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coming for me, um, and, uh, you know, probably other people, but specifically
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for me, and he's told people it's going to happen, it's just not, it's just
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not happening like the, the FBI has not stopped their, uh, raids of government
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facilities and arresting judges to take time out of their day to arrest me for
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my massive computer crime, right?
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Like they just haven't done it yet.
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And he's really getting frustrated.
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And I know the frustration.
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I knew it because he said, he said, uh, when he's like, yeah, the, the local
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guys said that they're going to send it to the FBI field office.
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I'm like, I've heard that before.
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I, when you're talking to the cops and they just, they don't, they want to
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get rid of it, it's now a jurisdictional issue and they've sent it to the federal
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government and the federal government probably don't give a shit.
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Like feds, fed prosecutions, they don't fuck around.
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They don't go, they don't go to bat unless they're really confident.
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Um, they're going to hit it.
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Oh, no.
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What happened?
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Oh, no.
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Oh, no.
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No, you're everybody.
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Everybody just calmed the fuck down.
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I did it whenever the OBS started going off.
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It muted me.
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I mean, I, I did.
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I, like I said, I took over.
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Well, while we're here, yeah, let's just knock this out first.
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And then I promise all yet that goes crusaders.
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It's my fault, I guess, because I have to have OBS on the, on the top of
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everything, whenever the audio plays.
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So if, uh, audio goes through like that and I don't have it up, that's
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what you get.
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So give me a second.
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First of all, we've got Leo who became a new member.
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Thank you for that.
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Leo, uh, Eddie Valentino gifted a pretty anti-social membership.
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Thank you.
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And thanks to whoever got that.
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BMC for 499 says Aaron, Aaron's whole show was just being has just, okay.
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Hold on.
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Aaron's whole show has just been a series of anti-semitic rants,
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racism and misogyny.
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It seems like a lot of misdirected anger.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Uh, Tommy from, from Rhode Island says SB equals stupid person.
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Thank you.
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And then I wonder if she's around anymore.
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I just like his level of unhinged is so weird.
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She didn't show up with him in court.
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And it's like, what were you, were you protecting her?
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Because like, I'm not sure exactly what that is.
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I, I strongly, I starting to buy into the theory that, uh, that she is gone.
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And I think maybe that might be why his anger towards women has seemingly
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escalated even, even since in the past months.
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Me too.
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And if you've watched some of the text messages, we have some tonight that I'll
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show you that, uh, it just seems very, another Venmo came in from whoever, you
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know, it's, it's got that vibe to it.
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And it's like, when he, you can tell the difference between when he actually
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reads something, when he looks down and he's just, you know, coming off the top
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of his head, it's just interesting.
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It's very interesting.
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All right.
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Let me play these real quick.
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Venmo for a $70.
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Thank you from Steve.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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800 the other day.
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And he asked, why are you so handsome?
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Wow.
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Thanks Steve.
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Jack, will you read that?
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Oh, oh man.
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I had the worst dream.
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First.
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I decided to embrace Matt and Johnny as friends.
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Truly.
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The show took on a more positive tone.
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After that, I wished all of my ex-wives, the best and really focused on my kids.
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It was horrible.
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Oh man.
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I had the worst dream.
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No, shut up, Nick.
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You are just scared that my boy cash in on it.
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You and Melton are done.
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I'll see you both down to Chinatown.
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Another win for the toe, the hero of Minnesota.
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All right.
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Skip that one and then Moody.
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Moody said, okay.
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All right.
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My read on the situation is that he is that he lost quote unquote lost and needs a
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quote unquote win in his zero sum game.
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The only experiences he's had, the only experience he's had with HROs has
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been, has both included no mention orders and were made by women.
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He thought it would be easy to get one because he's a misogynist and if a woman
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can do it, then so can he.
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He would then spend his next year or so trying to go Nick into talking about him
01:18:11.420 --> 01:18:12.980
and breaking the HRO.
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It's a mixture of, of zero sum game mindset, vengeance, misogyny, and him
01:18:18.340 --> 01:18:20.460
thinking he's smarter than he is.
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Do you think that's accurate?
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I also think, can you hold on?
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Oh, you pull that back up.
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Yeah, just, just for a second.
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I want to read the one part again.
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Let's see.
01:18:34.940 --> 01:18:35.260
Okay.
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So, yeah, trying to go Nick into talking about him and breaking the HRO.
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He thinks I believe that I am trying to goad him into breaking his
01:18:48.900 --> 01:18:51.860
own release conditions, right?
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Like I think that he thinks that when I tweet or something and it involves him
01:18:57.940 --> 01:19:03.220
or I make fun of him, that that is me trying to get him to violate his
01:19:03.220 --> 01:19:06.780
release conditions when it's actually, you know, much the opposite.
01:19:07.180 --> 01:19:09.860
It's just, you're talking about me all the time.
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So, you know, I'll talk back from time to time, but I would still prefer that
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you just follow your release conditions.
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That would be, that would be nice.
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Like, I just, I just think maybe there's a person there who, who you should be
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considering, but, you know, like that's just my thoughts on it.
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And I think that Moody's spot on because I think that he thinks I'm doing that.
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So he's like, okay, well, I'll, I'll do that then I can do that.
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The difference is like, if I have to, I actually can avoid talking about a subject.
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Like I have that ability to do that.
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It's, it's just discernment.
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Uh, the, the problem is like, uh, I, I won't have to, I won't have to not
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talk about the subject once, uh, once this hearing's over, right?
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I can't imagine being in a relationship, whatever that might look like.
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And then breaking off, like usually you want to get as far away from that person
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as possible, you don't want to hear anybody say their name, let alone talk
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about them every single day, several times a day, you know, do a media tour.
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Make it part of your content.
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It's just so strange to me.
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And on top of that, of course, you guys were all in a situation where you
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couldn't say anything in defense of yourself or each other.
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So that gave him this control and this power that he obviously abused to no end.
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And it's just, I don't know, I don't envy that at all.
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And I cannot imagine breaking it off with anybody in a relationship and then
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having that happen for well, every year, like every single day, you would feel so
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helpless and so just driven nuts.
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Like, you know, when you break up with somebody, like, you don't want to hear
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that person's name again, like don't bring them up, don't, you know, it's like
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you want to be as far away from them as possible, definitely not come, you know,
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and be in physical contact with them and go where they're at.
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And like, none of that makes sense.
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And I don't, it's just,
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it's a lot.
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And however much it was at the start, you know, every day it piles up and piles up
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and piles up.
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So you want to interact with this person less and less and less.
01:21:23.380 --> 01:21:28.060
I mean, you may want to like, may want to yell invectives at them or something,
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you know, like how you want to deal with something versus how you do deal with
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something are two different things for most people.
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And so it's like, sure, you'd like to tell someone off or whatever, but most of
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the time you just kind of just let it go.
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But I think it's it's really one of the frustrating things is because the
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sounds it sounds like NPD, but it's not because it involved me and just the
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general like train wreck that I was driving going into everything.
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What it what it did was look, my brain lost track of it right in the middle of
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what I was saying.
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But well, because it because it involved me, people forgave what was happening is
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what I was trying to say.
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So normally you break up with someone and you just break up with someone.
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And if someone were to go online and start just spilling about that person and
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like all these intimate details and talking about all these, all these
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situations that don't belong to the public, he would go, man, that's fucked up.
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Like, don't do that.
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Is what most people would do.
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Like people tend to be turned off by that.
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But the, I guess the salaciousness of the situation and then like, you know, again,
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the train wreck that I was driving going into that situation, the one of the
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hardest things for Kayla April and I, I mean, I'll speak for me, but I'm pretty
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sure I'm right on this one is that no one had any regard for our privacy anymore.
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Suddenly, like there was nothing that we were allowed to have as private.
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People leaked all sorts of DMS and stuff for me.
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And it's like, normally that's it's like, well, what are you doing with the, like
01:23:15.380 --> 01:23:20.660
releasing all the DMS is not really, not really a, you know, go to move for most
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situations and, but no one, even bad at night, they're like more, more, more.
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We want to know more about this.
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And it's still continuing with the body cam.
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Like we went, we need to see the inside of the house, like what you have.
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You've seen the inside of the house.
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You've seen, you know, you've seen pictures, you know, you
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can dispute that they don't match the description.
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I don't care anymore, but like, so you, you've seen that and it's like, well,
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no, now we have, we have to see the video though, cause we have to see the rest of
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it, we have to see this part, we have to see this part.
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It's like, you don't, you don't have access to everything.
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You, you don't get that.
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And that's not normal, but our situation being aberrant to normal behavior, um,
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just took away that, uh, I guess that discretion that people would normally
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have and that's what made it weird.
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Because normally, uh, the moment he started talking, people would be like,
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Hey man, like this just doesn't belong in public and that never happened.
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He never got, he never got corrected socially.
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Um, and I thought that I've, I found that interesting.
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I don't know what else to say about it.
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It's like, it's interesting to me.
01:24:23.380 --> 01:24:25.060
I'm like, wow, nobody gives a shit at all.
01:24:26.140 --> 01:24:27.780
They're like, Oh no, we get to see everything.
01:24:28.180 --> 01:24:30.700
Well, why trust me, you don't want to see some of the stuff.
01:24:31.340 --> 01:24:31.500
Yeah.
01:24:31.500 --> 01:24:35.220
Well, even when I'll say, even when it comes to the body cam footage, even
01:24:35.300 --> 01:24:39.220
now, you would even hear people saying, Oh, even if we don't see it, how, even
01:24:39.220 --> 01:24:43.300
if we do see it, how are we supposed to know it's not altered or whatever?
01:24:43.300 --> 01:24:47.460
And you're like, there is nothing that you can do, say, provide show
01:24:47.740 --> 01:24:52.780
evidence of anything that will satisfy everybody.
01:24:52.780 --> 01:24:55.820
There's always going to be that one, two, 10, whatever.
01:24:56.860 --> 01:25:01.820
No, and the unfortunate thing, or, I mean, I don't know if it's unfortunate,
01:25:01.940 --> 01:25:07.500
but the reality is the, the more people have pushed, I have, I have probably ODD,
01:25:08.020 --> 01:25:09.420
even though that's a childlike disorder.
01:25:09.420 --> 01:25:10.740
People call me a child all the time.
01:25:11.340 --> 01:25:16.620
Um, the more you push me to like release the body cam footage and the more that
01:25:16.620 --> 01:25:19.860
like the, that they're fighting for it, it's never coming out.
01:25:20.420 --> 01:25:25.220
Like I might do a stream with my feet up in a recliner watching it.
01:25:26.420 --> 01:25:28.700
And you like over here, right?
01:25:29.060 --> 01:25:30.140
Just to be a dick.
01:25:30.940 --> 01:25:35.780
There's no way like, cause I had, I had plans to like use some of the body cam
01:25:35.780 --> 01:25:37.860
footage to tell part of the story.
01:25:37.860 --> 01:25:39.740
And now I'm like, no, I'll find another way to do it.
01:25:39.780 --> 01:25:40.100
Fuck it.
01:25:40.740 --> 01:25:41.060
Right.
01:25:41.700 --> 01:25:46.340
Because now, now it's a fight over my stubbornness and I'm sorry.
01:25:46.340 --> 01:25:47.780
It wins a lot.
01:25:49.220 --> 01:25:51.620
It wins a lot of fights usually with me.
01:25:52.100 --> 01:25:56.340
Um, but, uh, but yeah, so now I have no desire to use any of it.
01:25:56.380 --> 01:25:59.580
I, in fact desire to keep all of it exceedingly private.
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Yeah.
01:26:01.460 --> 01:26:01.820
I get that.
01:26:02.100 --> 01:26:02.700
I get that.
01:26:02.940 --> 01:26:05.560
All right, let me play this one last super tip and we'll pull up, uh, this
01:26:05.560 --> 01:26:11.940
HR and you can tell us whatever you've got on that bad boys, bad boys.
01:26:12.020 --> 01:26:14.020
What you're going to do, what you're going to do when they come for you.
01:26:14.020 --> 01:26:15.380
Bad boys, bad boys.
01:26:15.540 --> 01:26:16.380
What you're going to do.
01:26:16.580 --> 01:26:19.820
What you're going to do when cash comes through my boys coming for you.
01:26:20.180 --> 01:26:21.740
Bad boys, bad boys.
01:26:21.820 --> 01:26:22.580
What are you going to do?
01:26:22.660 --> 01:26:25.180
What you're going to do when they come for you, bad boys, bad boys,
01:26:25.380 --> 01:26:28.300
what you're going to do watch the repeat button.
01:26:28.300 --> 01:26:28.820
Sorry.
01:26:28.820 --> 01:26:39.260
Okay, Bri-Bri, okay, Bri-Bri, yep, all right, what you want, where are we going?
01:26:39.260 --> 01:26:51.700
So I like, I guess he didn't accuse me of, I thought he was going to say I shared private
01:26:51.700 --> 01:26:58.140
sexual images of him.
01:26:58.620 --> 01:27:03.020
He didn't say that, he didn't check that, he didn't put a date there, but yes, if we
01:27:03.020 --> 01:27:14.060
go to that last thing we were on, which is L and then I guess to M, yeah, so the top
01:27:14.060 --> 01:27:19.660
of that page, he just says, yeah, access to Google account without authorization, divulge
01:27:19.660 --> 01:27:26.060
search histories and financial information, like I don't recall doing any of that, but
01:27:26.060 --> 01:27:29.180
your respondent deletes these tweets, I have them archived.
01:27:29.180 --> 01:27:30.180
Cool.
01:27:30.180 --> 01:27:36.380
Do you think he's asking about that time when you were talking about the pay stops because
01:27:36.380 --> 01:27:40.420
you were talking, it was about April and whether or not she got paid or like the last time
01:27:40.420 --> 01:27:43.220
she got paid or something, do you think he's talking about that?
01:27:43.220 --> 01:27:50.180
He could be, I don't know, sorry, a terminated employee divulged financial information, that
01:27:50.180 --> 01:27:51.740
happens all the time.
01:27:51.740 --> 01:27:54.340
That was the only thing I could think of when I read that.
01:27:54.580 --> 01:28:00.020
And there's nothing private, particularly about that financial information, except for
01:28:00.020 --> 01:28:02.020
things like account numbers and stuff like that.
01:28:02.700 --> 01:28:08.860
If an employee says, yeah, I was getting paid or the payroll was X amount per month, even
01:28:08.860 --> 01:28:14.460
if they went into specifics about who it was and not being them, that's not generally
01:28:14.460 --> 01:28:15.340
private information.
01:28:15.340 --> 01:28:20.340
It's information that people would say, maybe ethically, you don't want to talk about.
01:28:20.380 --> 01:28:26.380
But I was only talking about the payroll of the person who specifically was the person
01:28:26.380 --> 01:28:34.100
receiving the money and how that kept going for quite a while after, well, the pay stubs
01:28:34.100 --> 01:28:36.620
kept going for quite a while after the payments stopped.
01:28:37.380 --> 01:28:46.220
But that's not private financial information, actually, because he has an LLC.
01:28:47.060 --> 01:28:51.980
I don't know if he remembers that he has an LLC and it comes with certain benefits, but
01:28:51.980 --> 01:28:53.860
it also comes with certain caveats.
01:28:53.860 --> 01:28:59.180
And your LLC is not suing me or taking out an HRO.
01:28:59.180 --> 01:29:01.820
And so I wasn't divulging your financial information.
01:29:01.820 --> 01:29:06.860
I was divulging financial information of the LLC, which is a separate entity entirely.
01:29:07.180 --> 01:29:08.380
And it's structured that way.
01:29:08.380 --> 01:29:09.260
I know it is.
01:29:10.140 --> 01:29:16.660
He has it structured so that it's not just a pass through LLC for liability purposes.
01:29:16.980 --> 01:29:22.060
It is, you know, they run the or he runs the organization as a payroll organization.
01:29:23.180 --> 01:29:27.540
And yeah, so it's like it's actually a corporate setup.
01:29:27.540 --> 01:29:33.420
It's not the income goes into the corporation and then gets paid out, including to him.
01:29:34.300 --> 01:29:37.580
So he doesn't get to claim that I did that because I didn't.
01:29:37.620 --> 01:29:40.900
I did that in regards to an LLC that is not him.
01:29:43.180 --> 01:29:43.860
That's a mess.
01:29:45.460 --> 01:29:47.420
But maybe that maybe that's what he's talking about.
01:29:47.540 --> 01:29:47.980
I don't know.
01:29:47.980 --> 01:29:49.020
It's the only thing I can think of.
01:29:49.580 --> 01:29:49.980
Yeah.
01:29:51.260 --> 01:29:56.060
So the respondent is using X and YouTube to encourage harassment, make veiled threats
01:29:56.060 --> 01:29:57.020
that I should be dead.
01:29:57.820 --> 01:30:01.700
Well, I mean, I said everybody missed like I should be dead.
01:30:02.060 --> 01:30:06.340
I said that because they they're like, oh, you you want any worse key to be dead.
01:30:06.340 --> 01:30:09.140
I said, I said, Coach Red Pill is dead.
01:30:10.860 --> 01:30:12.180
Any worse key should be.
01:30:12.220 --> 01:30:12.900
I tried.
01:30:12.940 --> 01:30:16.140
It wasn't like morally Andy Worsky should be dead.
01:30:16.260 --> 01:30:18.940
It's like we we all did a bunch of drugs.
01:30:19.300 --> 01:30:21.020
We should have we should all died.
01:30:21.540 --> 01:30:23.300
Like we did a bunch of stupid stuff.
01:30:23.620 --> 01:30:24.020
Any worse.
01:30:24.020 --> 01:30:25.540
He was lighting his nipples on fire.
01:30:25.540 --> 01:30:26.780
He was doing so much cocaine.
01:30:26.780 --> 01:30:28.260
Like wild.
01:30:28.780 --> 01:30:29.500
Come on.
01:30:31.140 --> 01:30:36.140
But yeah, so like, yeah, saying someone should be dead, first of all, isn't
01:30:36.140 --> 01:30:36.700
harassment.
01:30:37.060 --> 01:30:41.780
So it's kind of interesting for talking for talking to police about his cocaine
01:30:41.780 --> 01:30:42.740
rest in May of twenty four.
01:30:42.740 --> 01:30:46.380
I don't I don't recall doing that for that purpose at all.
01:30:48.940 --> 01:30:50.740
Do you believe the harassment will continue?
01:30:50.820 --> 01:30:51.380
Yes.
01:30:52.140 --> 01:30:57.100
He seems unhinged in regards to me and obsessed with inflicting whatever kind of
01:30:57.100 --> 01:30:58.820
punishment he feels I deserve.
01:30:59.900 --> 01:31:02.500
I do believe he could get physical at some point.
01:31:07.140 --> 01:31:10.060
Well, what is what is this?
01:31:10.100 --> 01:31:11.340
It's so wild.
01:31:11.900 --> 01:31:18.620
Again, I haven't even seen this person in over a year until his and the only place
01:31:18.620 --> 01:31:20.060
I've seen him is in a court gallery.
01:31:20.660 --> 01:31:21.100
Mm hmm.
01:31:21.460 --> 01:31:27.780
Like this is crazy down like the part about you getting physical.
01:31:27.780 --> 01:31:32.540
It's just like, aren't you the one who said that if I'm going to box with five
01:31:32.620 --> 01:31:38.140
people, this guy Nick needs to be there or else I'm not doing it.
01:31:39.260 --> 01:31:40.820
And I'll kill him.
01:31:41.180 --> 01:31:43.900
I will kill him in the ring.
01:31:45.860 --> 01:31:47.380
He might get physical at some point.
01:31:47.980 --> 01:31:48.740
Oh, boy.
01:31:51.540 --> 01:31:52.420
It's so goofy.
01:31:52.420 --> 01:31:53.500
So he didn't.
01:31:55.060 --> 01:31:59.340
I was just trying to think if there was something else I just it was I might have
01:31:59.340 --> 01:32:07.380
dropped a page two, but I just him saying that I organized people to one that he oh,
01:32:07.380 --> 01:32:11.900
he said I organized people to make a police report, which I didn't do.
01:32:12.700 --> 01:32:15.740
I didn't even encourage it on Melton show.
01:32:15.780 --> 01:32:21.820
If if I recall my own words correctly, I simply said if people are doing this, the
01:32:21.820 --> 01:32:26.940
court made it clear that they are hearing them and they also made it clear that clips
01:32:27.340 --> 01:32:34.180
or timestamped links to the original show is the most valuable because they can't go
01:32:34.180 --> 01:32:37.220
through four hours of content like that.
01:32:37.300 --> 01:32:42.140
That isn't encouraging any I don't give a shit if people report like I'm the one who
01:32:42.460 --> 01:32:44.220
I am the one who reports or whatever.
01:32:45.780 --> 01:32:50.700
I'm the one like who's responsible for protecting my spouse.
01:32:51.300 --> 01:32:54.020
So I'm the one who monitors it and looks for it.
01:32:54.060 --> 01:32:57.380
And if other people like do it, fine, I guess.
01:32:57.460 --> 01:32:59.820
Like, but I'm not asking anybody to and I never have.
01:32:59.860 --> 01:33:05.100
So it's it's just crazy that he he's said stuff like that because he's literally done
01:33:05.100 --> 01:33:12.020
this to me. He's encouraged people to report me for all of these crimes.
01:33:12.340 --> 01:33:18.740
He's encouraged people to try and get me to violate my my probation conditions.
01:33:18.980 --> 01:33:24.940
He's encouraged he I believe he was able to spike my drink and stuff in Vegas.
01:33:25.580 --> 01:33:31.500
Like, it's it's utterly nuts that this person is is trying to pull this off.
01:33:32.060 --> 01:33:38.860
This HRO to me, when I first heard about it happening, felt to me as if it was an
01:33:38.860 --> 01:33:46.180
attempt to separate your support for your wife, who happens to be the victim in the
01:33:46.180 --> 01:33:47.340
revenge porn case.
01:33:47.380 --> 01:33:52.780
It felt very and I hope that I mean, you know, hopefully the judge will also sort
01:33:52.780 --> 01:33:53.900
of see it similarly.
01:33:53.940 --> 01:33:58.460
But it just felt like trying to drive a wedge and separate you from that amount
01:33:58.460 --> 01:33:59.180
of support. That's
01:34:00.660 --> 01:34:02.020
yeah. So
01:34:04.740 --> 01:34:11.540
police reports and any report to a government official is is a privileged
01:34:11.540 --> 01:34:16.940
communication, which means if you call in the police, like you can call in the
01:34:16.940 --> 01:34:24.300
police and say we'll say veto because you know, because veto is a veto is
01:34:24.300 --> 01:34:26.220
invading a kindergarten right now.
01:34:26.260 --> 01:34:29.220
And those children are in danger of either being molested or eaten.
01:34:29.220 --> 01:34:30.260
And we're not sure which one.
01:34:30.740 --> 01:34:35.740
Right. And like, so you call that and veto is not at the playground, but you
01:34:35.740 --> 01:34:39.540
had some sort of some sort of belief or the kindergarten, some sort of belief
01:34:39.540 --> 01:34:41.020
that he was, but he's not there.
01:34:41.580 --> 01:34:44.780
Your privilege from defamation, your privilege from some false statement or
01:34:44.820 --> 01:34:49.060
false light thing because you made a police report in good faith with the
01:34:49.060 --> 01:34:49.940
information that you had.
01:34:50.580 --> 01:34:52.420
So you can't sue someone over police reports.
01:34:52.780 --> 01:34:55.420
Now, if you make the police report and then you take the police report and you
01:34:55.420 --> 01:34:58.180
run to the public and be like, see, there's a police report about it.
01:34:58.220 --> 01:34:58.460
Right.
01:34:58.460 --> 01:34:59.700
Or you falsify something.
01:35:00.060 --> 01:35:02.820
Obviously there can be consequences, but otherwise they're privileged
01:35:02.820 --> 01:35:03.580
communications.
01:35:04.060 --> 01:35:10.700
And so any reports that are made about, you know, about his behavior, even if
01:35:10.700 --> 01:35:13.740
people are wrong, like it's still privileged.
01:35:13.780 --> 01:35:19.300
And you, you have a right to access the criminal justice system, especially as
01:35:19.300 --> 01:35:23.420
a, as a victim, but you have a right to access the criminal justice system in
01:35:23.420 --> 01:35:26.980
its entirety and also the judiciary in its entirety.
01:35:27.420 --> 01:35:31.100
And someone trying to foreclose that right through a restraining order, we'll
01:35:31.100 --> 01:35:33.660
find that judges don't really like that at all.
01:35:33.980 --> 01:35:37.380
You have to have a, to get someone restrained from making police reports,
01:35:37.380 --> 01:35:41.860
they have to have a long history of making, uh, verifiably false police
01:35:41.860 --> 01:35:43.380
reports or making false statements.
01:35:44.060 --> 01:35:46.620
And specifically typically false statements about you.
01:35:47.140 --> 01:35:52.740
So like the, uh, the, this one, I, but I think it's ignorance, honestly, I
01:35:52.740 --> 01:35:56.620
think, I think maybe he thinks that if there's a restraining order, I can't
01:35:56.620 --> 01:35:58.700
show up to court, right?
01:35:58.700 --> 01:35:59.860
Like, but he's wrong.
01:36:01.100 --> 01:36:04.340
Even if there is a restraining order, how they handle that is like, you
01:36:04.340 --> 01:36:05.860
have access to the courtroom.
01:36:06.220 --> 01:36:09.500
So what they would do is get a bailiff and bring that in there.
01:36:09.500 --> 01:36:12.740
And they, you know, they, they'd say, you, you do anything and you're gone.
01:36:12.740 --> 01:36:14.540
Like you're arrested, et cetera.
01:36:14.540 --> 01:36:18.700
Do you not think that you'd be able to show up to a court hearing to defend
01:36:18.700 --> 01:36:20.820
yourself from this HRO, like?
01:36:21.220 --> 01:36:25.380
No, I think, I think he was more thinking, me show up in the gallery
01:36:25.420 --> 01:36:27.380
for the first sentencing hearing.
01:36:27.420 --> 01:36:27.940
Yeah.
01:36:28.500 --> 01:36:35.980
Again, a court, the idea of a court issuing an order, restricting someone
01:36:35.980 --> 01:36:40.580
from accessing the courthouse is so rare.
01:36:41.260 --> 01:36:42.780
It's so rare.
01:36:43.100 --> 01:36:44.260
You have to do a lot.
01:36:44.700 --> 01:36:48.340
Um, because they'll, they'll give you ever, it's a fundamental right.
01:36:48.460 --> 01:36:52.540
Like it's, it would have to, and they're less restrictive means
01:36:52.540 --> 01:36:54.020
than banning you from the courthouse.
01:36:54.020 --> 01:36:55.900
Like I said, they can have a bailiff watch you.
01:36:55.900 --> 01:36:59.380
They can have you, um, you know, they can have you maybe in a separate
01:36:59.380 --> 01:37:01.540
room or something, but they can't stop you from showing up.
01:37:01.660 --> 01:37:03.020
That's a, it's a public building.
01:37:05.140 --> 01:37:08.740
But, um, yeah, I guess there's not really much more in here.
01:37:08.820 --> 01:37:13.860
I just, I found all of the, it's, it's just very telling, um, about where
01:37:13.860 --> 01:37:19.220
his mind is and I do, I do believe it's, it's openly retaliatory and I think
01:37:19.220 --> 01:37:20.860
it fits right in with his epiphany.
01:37:20.900 --> 01:37:24.940
I think this is what he was writing while he was, um, while he was up at
01:37:24.940 --> 01:37:27.180
his cabin in the woods before his hearing.
01:37:27.220 --> 01:37:33.140
And, uh, that to me is unfathomably idiotic.
01:37:33.580 --> 01:37:34.580
Yeah.
01:37:35.420 --> 01:37:40.500
I mean, he, he should have been working so hard on, um, what his defense
01:37:40.500 --> 01:37:44.980
statement is because he had to know, he had to know what, well, I shouldn't say
01:37:44.980 --> 01:37:50.900
that his PSI report was filed only two days before its hearing, which that, um,
01:37:51.300 --> 01:37:52.780
his lawyer should have told him.
01:37:53.180 --> 01:37:56.500
And he probably did because remember whatever he says is the opposite.
01:37:56.940 --> 01:37:59.580
So he said, Tom Peterson was like, Oh, if you had anything to worry about,
01:38:00.020 --> 01:38:03.580
I would have told you, but he was acting really worried the whole time.
01:38:04.340 --> 01:38:04.540
Yeah.
01:38:05.180 --> 01:38:11.420
And so that, that PSI report taking that long to get there, I didn't, there was
01:38:11.420 --> 01:38:17.220
a communication error with my attorney and I, my PSI report was filed, um, and
01:38:17.220 --> 01:38:23.700
didn't get delivered to me, uh, for like, it was delayed by like a week or a week
01:38:23.700 --> 01:38:28.500
and a half and, but it was filed like almost two weeks prior to my sentencing.
01:38:28.940 --> 01:38:34.060
His file two days prior, which meant they were watching through that, like
01:38:34.060 --> 01:38:39.980
through that entire time, two days, two days prior is almost to the point where
01:38:40.260 --> 01:38:44.660
Todd Peterson should have objected to the PSI report at all.
01:38:44.700 --> 01:38:49.260
Like he should have, he didn't because they didn't end up, they didn't end up
01:38:49.260 --> 01:38:50.780
using it because of the violations.
01:38:50.820 --> 01:38:54.060
And maybe he was planning on objecting to it, but having it filed that
01:38:54.060 --> 01:38:57.740
late is almost like too late, but the state always does it.
01:38:58.260 --> 01:39:02.780
But it would merit a filing in my opinion, because it's like, wait, we
01:39:02.780 --> 01:39:04.620
got to prepare our response in two days.
01:39:04.660 --> 01:39:08.940
Like we don't get, we don't get a week for this, but that should have been his
01:39:09.700 --> 01:39:12.700
huge indication that he was about to get royally fisted.
01:39:13.420 --> 01:39:17.980
Um, and you just, yeah, you want your stuff to be there early.
01:39:17.980 --> 01:39:20.820
You want the government to let you know that everything's going to be
01:39:20.820 --> 01:39:23.020
this way as soon as possible.
01:39:23.060 --> 01:39:25.380
You do not want them filing at the 11th hour.
01:39:26.380 --> 01:39:32.460
And so his whole bravado was, was amazing, but he would have gotten, uh, he got
01:39:32.460 --> 01:39:33.900
Kayla's victim impact statement.
01:39:36.980 --> 01:39:42.820
He would have gotten, he would have gotten the reports, um, made about his
01:39:42.820 --> 01:39:47.340
release condition violations, even if he hadn't gotten the, the violation order.
01:39:47.780 --> 01:39:51.100
He probably got the reports about them and what was in them.
01:39:51.340 --> 01:39:54.820
And I have a feeling the moment he looked at those, he went, oh shit.
01:39:55.700 --> 01:39:58.780
Like these aren't, these aren't just like a random email.
01:39:58.860 --> 01:40:03.460
Like some people try to report shit about me and it was always, it was literally
01:40:03.460 --> 01:40:05.020
a random email to like the judge.
01:40:06.620 --> 01:40:07.900
You can't, you can't do this.
01:40:07.900 --> 01:40:11.420
Like the court can't even consider this stuff, but, um, I'm not aware of
01:40:11.420 --> 01:40:13.100
anybody reporting anything substantive.
01:40:13.100 --> 01:40:16.820
And if they did the PSI completely disregarded it, none of it was in there.
01:40:17.340 --> 01:40:19.420
But I, Aaron's I think was way different.
01:40:19.740 --> 01:40:21.420
I think his was much, much worse.
01:40:22.300 --> 01:40:22.620
Yeah.
01:40:22.660 --> 01:40:29.140
Well, I, we had talked about this when we, uh, did our show with Leo on Wednesday,
01:40:29.500 --> 01:40:35.900
because, um, Leo, who is, uh, who was a paralegal out in Alaska, I was, was
01:40:36.180 --> 01:40:42.780
saying that looking at Aaron's case, if you were like someone who wasn't in this
01:40:42.780 --> 01:40:47.140
world or didn't really understand or watch a show or anything like that, you
01:40:47.140 --> 01:40:52.380
would have no understanding of any of the context to any of like little clips
01:40:52.380 --> 01:40:53.660
that people would send you.
01:40:53.940 --> 01:41:00.700
And it's like people, if people were sending the prosecutor or whatever, all
01:41:00.700 --> 01:41:06.660
these little timestamps for this past year, it helped, it actually helped her
01:41:06.700 --> 01:41:11.740
gain the context of him even more.
01:41:11.740 --> 01:41:17.100
So him complaining about him saying that the prosecutor was so upset
01:41:17.100 --> 01:41:20.420
about all these people harassing her with these clips.
01:41:20.420 --> 01:41:25.460
It actually did help them understand.
01:41:25.820 --> 01:41:26.900
No, I think so.
01:41:26.900 --> 01:41:31.500
And the other thing that I think it did is, uh, you know, they indicated they
01:41:31.500 --> 01:41:35.700
got multiple sources, like almost daily for a year.
01:41:36.340 --> 01:41:42.340
I think what it did was they go, this guy's menace, like this guy's an actual look
01:41:42.820 --> 01:41:48.820
and she even said, which I, I actually have problems with this legally, but I'm
01:41:48.820 --> 01:41:49.380
not his lawyer.
01:41:50.140 --> 01:41:56.380
Uh, she said the volume of the claims that we got suggested that there was a
01:41:56.380 --> 01:42:01.060
real problem, which I don't like that.
01:42:01.060 --> 01:42:04.300
Like from a legal perspective, I want the quality of the claims.
01:42:05.340 --> 01:42:09.540
I want them to get one claim and go, holy shit, like this, this is well
01:42:09.540 --> 01:42:11.500
researched and this clearly shows it.
01:42:11.540 --> 01:42:12.660
And I want them to act on it.
01:42:12.660 --> 01:42:17.340
And they, they really don't, but when they're getting two, four, five, 10
01:42:17.340 --> 01:42:20.100
emails a day, and like some of these days, you know, they were getting
01:42:20.100 --> 01:42:24.740
significant amounts because he would be so brutal in the violations.
01:42:25.100 --> 01:42:28.660
And so when they're getting just all of these hammered in the go, okay, no,
01:42:28.660 --> 01:42:33.780
like these people care, like this guy's actually impacting the community.
01:42:34.060 --> 01:42:38.580
And one of the things people overlook, I think in probation, uh, determinations
01:42:38.580 --> 01:42:42.180
is the big part of probation is integration with the community and the
01:42:42.180 --> 01:42:43.220
safety of the community.
01:42:43.300 --> 01:42:46.420
And what is the community is not just Stearns County, right?
01:42:46.420 --> 01:42:51.220
It's the online community that he participates in is the community that,
01:42:51.220 --> 01:42:56.140
uh, that the judge also has a, has a duty to protect from criminal activity
01:42:56.580 --> 01:42:59.740
or that the court system, not the judge specifically, but the court system does.
01:42:59.820 --> 01:43:03.700
And the judge's responsibility in setting probation violations is to help
01:43:03.700 --> 01:43:05.220
protect that community as well.
01:43:05.740 --> 01:43:10.060
And so to have all of the people from that community come in and say, this
01:43:10.060 --> 01:43:12.860
guy's a menace within this community.
01:43:13.060 --> 01:43:17.620
Now the judge and prosecutor go, okay, no, we actually, we actually do
01:43:17.620 --> 01:43:19.740
have an obligation to protect here.
01:43:19.740 --> 01:43:22.020
And so I think, I think that really screwed him over.
01:43:22.020 --> 01:43:24.740
And I think his, I know his bravado did.
01:43:26.580 --> 01:43:29.500
I know that that four and a half hour, uh, real media player
01:43:29.500 --> 01:43:31.220
video made it into their hands.
01:43:31.300 --> 01:43:34.940
And I don't think that the court liked being told over and over how
01:43:34.940 --> 01:43:39.220
dumb it was, how ticky tacky it was, how stupid it was, how this is all
01:43:39.220 --> 01:43:41.140
just a vengeance campaign, how they are.
01:43:41.380 --> 01:43:45.020
I don't think they liked being implied that, uh, that I've paid them off.
01:43:45.500 --> 01:43:46.820
Um, or that they could be bought.
01:43:47.020 --> 01:43:52.020
Uh, those, those are things that if you're going to have the balls to
01:43:52.020 --> 01:43:56.700
say that your County prosecutor has been paid off, um, prepare
01:43:56.700 --> 01:43:59.100
yourself for prosecution, like just prepare yourself.
01:43:59.100 --> 01:44:00.540
Don't do anything wrong ever.
01:44:00.540 --> 01:44:02.580
You should never talk about your own County that way.
01:44:03.500 --> 01:44:08.820
And like, I I've talked about my own County's, uh, incompetence mildly
01:44:08.980 --> 01:44:11.300
over seven years, a couple of times.
01:44:11.460 --> 01:44:15.420
And I mean, they said in my family case, they just don't like what I say online.
01:44:16.780 --> 01:44:18.780
I barely even make fun of you guys.
01:44:21.780 --> 01:44:24.580
I mean, goodness gracious, but yeah, don't shit where you eat.
01:44:24.660 --> 01:44:26.060
And he, he shat all over it.
01:44:26.060 --> 01:44:29.940
So big mistake all the way up until the day before, maybe even
01:44:29.940 --> 01:44:31.820
the morning before he went.
01:44:31.820 --> 01:44:33.060
It was, yeah.
01:44:33.100 --> 01:44:37.380
Well, I mean, he, he did his, uh, his Zen epiphany moment.
01:44:37.380 --> 01:44:39.740
Like, I just know now what I'm going to do.
01:44:39.740 --> 01:44:43.620
It's like, you don't get to erase a year of bad behavior by just
01:44:43.620 --> 01:44:46.100
going, but he thinks he can, right?
01:44:46.700 --> 01:44:50.100
That's what he's done in his mind up to this point.
01:44:50.100 --> 01:44:53.060
He's like, well, I just had to say, sorry, you know, like 50 bucks.
01:44:53.180 --> 01:44:53.740
Sorry.
01:44:53.740 --> 01:44:57.460
It's like, well, I don't think 50 bucks and sorry, man.
01:44:57.460 --> 01:44:58.620
I don't think so.
01:44:59.140 --> 01:45:05.180
Um, and I'm, I'm really curious, uh, that, that hearing was very
01:45:05.180 --> 01:45:09.860
interesting because Todd Peterson saying we want to pull the transcript and see,
01:45:10.620 --> 01:45:16.460
um, do you guys have the plea petition handy real quick?
01:45:16.860 --> 01:45:22.060
And then I, I gotta go like shortly after, but I, I wanted to explore something.
01:45:22.660 --> 01:45:27.420
If it's a gross misdemeanor plea petition, something funny might've happened.
01:45:29.020 --> 01:45:30.180
You have that checking or?
01:45:31.340 --> 01:45:31.900
Hold on.
01:45:31.940 --> 01:45:32.980
So it was it.
01:45:33.100 --> 01:45:33.380
Okay.
01:45:33.380 --> 01:45:35.620
So is the plea agreement or whatever?
01:45:35.860 --> 01:45:36.380
Yes.
01:45:36.380 --> 01:45:41.180
So in Minnesota, there's two forms, uh, and one is for felonies and one is for
01:45:41.180 --> 01:45:42.620
misdemeanors and gross misdemeanors.
01:45:42.940 --> 01:45:46.660
You can use the felony one for the others, but the misdemeanor and gross
01:45:46.660 --> 01:45:49.180
misdemeanor has a specific feature on it.
01:45:49.820 --> 01:45:50.260
Okay.
01:45:50.700 --> 01:45:51.620
That's what he used.
01:45:52.100 --> 01:45:52.340
All right.
01:45:52.380 --> 01:45:54.540
Let me just stay right at the top in the caption.
01:45:55.300 --> 01:45:56.620
I'll find it.
01:45:56.660 --> 01:45:58.980
Give me, I'm just going to find it.
01:45:58.980 --> 01:46:02.580
I know you have to go in a minute, Nick, but I need you to watch the rest of the
01:46:02.580 --> 01:46:08.620
show either tonight or at some point plan on it, we have some really funny stuff
01:46:08.620 --> 01:46:10.580
that we're going to be presenting.
01:46:10.580 --> 01:46:11.220
No, it's fine.
01:46:11.820 --> 01:46:13.900
No, it's been cool.
01:46:14.220 --> 01:46:15.700
Um, do you need help on it?
01:46:15.740 --> 01:46:18.940
Jackie, or it's the, it's the petition to end the hearing.
01:46:18.940 --> 01:46:19.220
Yeah.
01:46:19.220 --> 01:46:19.620
Yeah.
01:46:19.620 --> 01:46:20.180
It's fine.
01:46:20.180 --> 01:46:20.740
It's fine.
01:46:20.740 --> 01:46:21.100
It's fine.
01:46:21.100 --> 01:46:21.340
It's fine.
01:46:21.340 --> 01:46:21.500
It's fine.
01:46:21.500 --> 01:46:21.660
It's fine.
01:46:21.660 --> 01:46:21.740
It's fine.
01:46:21.740 --> 01:46:21.820
It's fine.
01:46:21.820 --> 01:46:21.900
It's fine.
01:46:21.900 --> 01:46:21.980
It's fine.
01:46:21.980 --> 01:46:22.060
It's fine.
01:46:22.060 --> 01:46:22.140
It's fine.
01:46:22.140 --> 01:46:22.220
It's fine.
01:46:22.220 --> 01:46:22.300
It's fine.
01:46:22.300 --> 01:46:22.380
It's fine.
01:46:22.780 --> 01:46:25.780
So it's the, it's the petition to enter the guilty plea.
01:46:25.780 --> 01:46:26.500
Is that the one?
01:46:26.700 --> 01:46:26.980
Okay.
01:46:27.380 --> 01:46:29.060
Tition to enter a plea of guilty.
01:46:30.180 --> 01:46:33.060
But I'm really looking forward to your show with, I think his name's
01:46:33.060 --> 01:46:33.700
Leo, right?
01:46:33.700 --> 01:46:36.020
The, the paralegal guy.
01:46:36.700 --> 01:46:44.020
Um, I like his, uh, his video is lacking a little bit of, you know, facts and
01:46:44.020 --> 01:46:45.580
stuff like that, which is fine.
01:46:45.580 --> 01:46:47.980
Like that, that's not a, that's not a downplay.
01:46:47.980 --> 01:46:49.740
It was so thorough and it was so good.
01:46:49.740 --> 01:46:50.860
Like he, he nailed it.
01:46:50.860 --> 01:46:53.060
So I was really like, I'm really looking forward to watching his
01:46:53.060 --> 01:46:53.820
interview with y'all.
01:46:53.820 --> 01:46:54.420
I want to see.
01:46:55.060 --> 01:46:55.900
Yeah, we had a good time.
01:46:56.140 --> 01:46:57.260
Yeah, we had such a great time.
01:46:57.260 --> 01:46:58.980
And he actually has a new video out too.
01:46:58.980 --> 01:47:02.740
That was, um, I've, I was able to watch the first half of it, but not the rest.
01:47:02.740 --> 01:47:05.100
But it was, but I saw it was good.
01:47:05.860 --> 01:47:06.220
Okay.
01:47:06.500 --> 01:47:07.860
So this is a felony.
01:47:08.140 --> 01:47:09.780
This is the felony plea petition.
01:47:10.020 --> 01:47:13.060
So I don't think they're going to have it, but if we just scroll through some,
01:47:13.180 --> 01:47:17.700
some of them, you have to put a factual basis on the petition, but I think
01:47:17.700 --> 01:47:18.940
his is just made in court.
01:47:19.500 --> 01:47:21.860
Um, I really want it.
01:47:21.860 --> 01:47:25.380
I want the transcript of his hearing of, of this plea hearing.
01:47:26.500 --> 01:47:27.460
Yeah, good.
01:47:27.780 --> 01:47:30.620
I don't, no one's got it.
01:47:30.980 --> 01:47:38.940
I think it's, uh, so harassment, um, harassment filings are done typically,
It's, it's just discernment.
01:19:50.980 --> 01:19:57.660
Uh, the, the problem is like, uh, I, I won't have to, I won't have to not
01:19:57.660 --> 01:20:02.020
talk about the subject once, uh, once this hearing's over, right?
01:20:02.140 --> 01:20:07.020
I can't imagine being in a relationship, whatever that might look like.
01:20:07.060 --> 01:20:11.980
And then breaking off, like usually you want to get as far away from that person
01:20:11.980 --> 01:20:15.500
as possible, you don't want to hear anybody say their name, let alone talk
01:20:15.500 --> 01:20:20.220
about them every single day, several times a day, you know, do a media tour.
01:20:20.580 --> 01:20:22.020
Make it part of your content.
01:20:22.060 --> 01:20:25.140
It's just so strange to me.
01:20:25.140 --> 01:20:29.140
And on top of that, of course, you guys were all in a situation where you
01:20:29.140 --> 01:20:33.140
couldn't say anything in defense of yourself or each other.
01:20:33.740 --> 01:20:39.260
So that gave him this control and this power that he obviously abused to no end.
01:20:39.700 --> 01:20:44.060
And it's just, I don't know, I don't envy that at all.
01:20:44.060 --> 01:20:47.580
And I cannot imagine breaking it off with anybody in a relationship and then
01:20:47.580 --> 01:20:53.740
having that happen for well, every year, like every single day, you would feel so
01:20:53.740 --> 01:20:57.420
helpless and so just driven nuts.
01:20:57.420 --> 01:20:59.220
Like, you know, when you break up with somebody, like, you don't want to hear
01:20:59.220 --> 01:21:02.700
that person's name again, like don't bring them up, don't, you know, it's like
01:21:02.700 --> 01:21:05.740
you want to be as far away from them as possible, definitely not come, you know,
01:21:05.740 --> 01:21:08.860
and be in physical contact with them and go where they're at.
01:21:08.860 --> 01:21:10.180
And like, none of that makes sense.
01:21:10.180 --> 01:21:11.380
And I don't, it's just,
01:21:12.220 --> 01:21:12.860
it's a lot.
01:21:13.340 --> 01:21:19.340
And however much it was at the start, you know, every day it piles up and piles up
01:21:19.340 --> 01:21:19.860
and piles up.
01:21:19.860 --> 01:21:22.940
So you want to interact with this person less and less and less.
01:21:23.380 --> 01:21:28.060
I mean, you may want to like, may want to yell invectives at them or something,
01:21:28.060 --> 01:21:33.460
you know, like how you want to deal with something versus how you do deal with
01:21:33.460 --> 01:21:35.500
something are two different things for most people.
01:21:35.980 --> 01:21:39.780
And so it's like, sure, you'd like to tell someone off or whatever, but most of
01:21:39.780 --> 01:21:42.260
the time you just kind of just let it go.
01:21:42.660 --> 01:21:49.020
But I think it's it's really one of the frustrating things is because the
01:21:49.020 --> 01:21:56.980
sounds it sounds like NPD, but it's not because it involved me and just the
01:21:56.980 --> 01:22:02.180
general like train wreck that I was driving going into everything.
01:22:03.460 --> 01:22:09.100
What it what it did was look, my brain lost track of it right in the middle of
01:22:09.660 --> 01:22:10.300
what I was saying.
01:22:10.660 --> 01:22:17.820
But well, because it because it involved me, people forgave what was happening is
01:22:17.820 --> 01:22:18.660
what I was trying to say.
01:22:19.180 --> 01:22:24.420
So normally you break up with someone and you just break up with someone.
01:22:24.900 --> 01:22:29.580
And if someone were to go online and start just spilling about that person and
01:22:29.580 --> 01:22:33.060
like all these intimate details and talking about all these, all these
01:22:33.060 --> 01:22:37.100
situations that don't belong to the public, he would go, man, that's fucked up.
01:22:37.100 --> 01:22:37.940
Like, don't do that.
01:22:38.660 --> 01:22:40.340
Is what most people would do.
01:22:40.340 --> 01:22:42.580
Like people tend to be turned off by that.
01:22:42.660 --> 01:22:47.100
But the, I guess the salaciousness of the situation and then like, you know, again,
01:22:47.100 --> 01:22:53.020
the train wreck that I was driving going into that situation, the one of the
01:22:53.020 --> 01:22:57.780
hardest things for Kayla April and I, I mean, I'll speak for me, but I'm pretty
01:22:57.780 --> 01:23:01.780
sure I'm right on this one is that no one had any regard for our privacy anymore.
01:23:01.780 --> 01:23:05.900
Suddenly, like there was nothing that we were allowed to have as private.
01:23:06.740 --> 01:23:11.100
People leaked all sorts of DMS and stuff for me.
01:23:11.100 --> 01:23:15.380
And it's like, normally that's it's like, well, what are you doing with the, like
01:23:15.380 --> 01:23:20.660
releasing all the DMS is not really, not really a, you know, go to move for most
01:23:20.780 --> 01:23:24.380
situations and, but no one, even bad at night, they're like more, more, more.
01:23:24.380 --> 01:23:25.660
We want to know more about this.
01:23:26.100 --> 01:23:27.780
And it's still continuing with the body cam.
01:23:27.780 --> 01:23:30.260
Like we went, we need to see the inside of the house, like what you have.
01:23:30.940 --> 01:23:32.060
You've seen the inside of the house.
01:23:32.060 --> 01:23:35.700
You've seen, you know, you've seen pictures, you know, you
01:23:35.700 --> 01:23:37.580
can dispute that they don't match the description.
01:23:37.580 --> 01:23:41.340
I don't care anymore, but like, so you, you've seen that and it's like, well,
01:23:41.340 --> 01:23:44.940
no, now we have, we have to see the video though, cause we have to see the rest of
01:23:44.940 --> 01:23:47.300
it, we have to see this part, we have to see this part.
01:23:47.780 --> 01:23:51.140
It's like, you don't, you don't have access to everything.
01:23:51.180 --> 01:23:52.460
You, you don't get that.
01:23:52.500 --> 01:24:00.340
And that's not normal, but our situation being aberrant to normal behavior, um,
01:24:00.740 --> 01:24:05.660
just took away that, uh, I guess that discretion that people would normally
01:24:05.660 --> 01:24:08.020
have and that's what made it weird.
01:24:08.020 --> 01:24:11.380
Because normally, uh, the moment he started talking, people would be like,
01:24:11.380 --> 01:24:14.820
Hey man, like this just doesn't belong in public and that never happened.
01:24:14.820 --> 01:24:16.940
He never got, he never got corrected socially.
01:24:17.500 --> 01:24:20.860
Um, and I thought that I've, I found that interesting.
01:24:20.860 --> 01:24:21.980
I don't know what else to say about it.
01:24:21.980 --> 01:24:23.380
It's like, it's interesting to me.
01:24:23.380 --> 01:24:25.060
I'm like, wow, nobody gives a shit at all.
01:24:26.140 --> 01:24:27.780
They're like, Oh no, we get to see everything.
01:24:28.180 --> 01:24:30.700
Well, why trust me, you don't want to see some of the stuff.
01:24:31.340 --> 01:24:31.500
Yeah.
01:24:31.500 --> 01:24:35.220
Well, even when I'll say, even when it comes to the body cam footage, even
01:24:35.300 --> 01:24:39.220
now, you would even hear people saying, Oh, even if we don't see it, how, even
01:24:39.220 --> 01:24:43.300
if we do see it, how are we supposed to know it's not altered or whatever?
01:24:43.300 --> 01:24:47.460
And you're like, there is nothing that you can do, say, provide show
01:24:47.740 --> 01:24:52.780
evidence of anything that will satisfy everybody.
01:24:52.780 --> 01:24:55.820
There's always going to be that one, two, 10, whatever.
01:24:56.860 --> 01:25:01.820
No, and the unfortunate thing, or, I mean, I don't know if it's unfortunate,
01:25:01.940 --> 01:25:07.500
but the reality is the, the more people have pushed, I have, I have probably ODD,
01:25:08.020 --> 01:25:09.420
even though that's a childlike disorder.
01:25:09.420 --> 01:25:10.740
People call me a child all the time.
01:25:11.340 --> 01:25:16.620
Um, the more you push me to like release the body cam footage and the more that
01:25:16.620 --> 01:25:19.860
like the, that they're fighting for it, it's never coming out.
01:25:20.420 --> 01:25:25.220
Like I might do a stream with my feet up in a recliner watching it.
01:25:26.420 --> 01:25:28.700
And you like over here, right?
01:25:29.060 --> 01:25:30.140
Just to be a dick.
01:25:30.940 --> 01:25:35.780
There's no way like, cause I had, I had plans to like use some of the body cam
01:25:35.780 --> 01:25:37.860
footage to tell part of the story.
01:25:37.860 --> 01:25:39.740
And now I'm like, no, I'll find another way to do it.
01:25:39.780 --> 01:25:40.100
Fuck it.
01:25:40.740 --> 01:25:41.060
Right.
01:25:41.700 --> 01:25:46.340
Because now, now it's a fight over my stubbornness and I'm sorry.
01:25:46.340 --> 01:25:47.780
It wins a lot.
01:25:49.220 --> 01:25:51.620
It wins a lot of fights usually with me.
01:25:52.100 --> 01:25:56.340
Um, but, uh, but yeah, so now I have no desire to use any of it.
01:25:56.380 --> 01:25:59.580
I, in fact desire to keep all of it exceedingly private.
01:26:01.100 --> 01:26:01.300
Yeah.
01:26:01.460 --> 01:26:01.820
I get that.
01:26:02.100 --> 01:26:02.700
I get that.
01:26:02.940 --> 01:26:05.560
All right, let me play this one last super tip and we'll pull up, uh, this
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HR and you can tell us whatever you've got on that bad boys, bad boys.
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What you're going to do, what you're going to do when they come for you.
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Bad boys, bad boys.
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What you're going to do.
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What you're going to do when cash comes through my boys coming for you.
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Bad boys, bad boys.
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What are you going to do?
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What you're going to do when they come for you, bad boys, bad boys,
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what you're going to do watch the repeat button.
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Sorry.
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Okay, Bri-Bri, okay, Bri-Bri, yep, all right, what you want, where are we going?
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So I like, I guess he didn't accuse me of, I thought he was going to say I shared private
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sexual images of him.
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He didn't say that, he didn't check that, he didn't put a date there, but yes, if we
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go to that last thing we were on, which is L and then I guess to M, yeah, so the top
01:27:14.060 --> 01:27:19.660
of that page, he just says, yeah, access to Google account without authorization, divulge
01:27:19.660 --> 01:27:26.060
search histories and financial information, like I don't recall doing any of that, but
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your respondent deletes these tweets, I have them archived.
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Cool.
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Do you think he's asking about that time when you were talking about the pay stops because
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you were talking, it was about April and whether or not she got paid or like the last time
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she got paid or something, do you think he's talking about that?
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He could be, I don't know, sorry, a terminated employee divulged financial information, that
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happens all the time.
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That was the only thing I could think of when I read that.
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And there's nothing private, particularly about that financial information, except for
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things like account numbers and stuff like that.
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If an employee says, yeah, I was getting paid or the payroll was X amount per month, even
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if they went into specifics about who it was and not being them, that's not generally
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private information.
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It's information that people would say, maybe ethically, you don't want to talk about.
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But I was only talking about the payroll of the person who specifically was the person
01:28:26.380 --> 01:28:34.100
receiving the money and how that kept going for quite a while after, well, the pay stubs
01:28:34.100 --> 01:28:36.620
kept going for quite a while after the payments stopped.
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But that's not private financial information, actually, because he has an LLC.
01:28:47.060 --> 01:28:51.980
I don't know if he remembers that he has an LLC and it comes with certain benefits, but
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it also comes with certain caveats.
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And your LLC is not suing me or taking out an HRO.
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And so I wasn't divulging your financial information.
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I was divulging financial information of the LLC, which is a separate entity entirely.
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And it's structured that way.
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I know it is.
01:29:10.140 --> 01:29:16.660
He has it structured so that it's not just a pass through LLC for liability purposes.
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It is, you know, they run the or he runs the organization as a payroll organization.
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And yeah, so it's like it's actually a corporate setup.
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It's not the income goes into the corporation and then gets paid out, including to him.
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So he doesn't get to claim that I did that because I didn't.
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I did that in regards to an LLC that is not him.
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That's a mess.
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But maybe that maybe that's what he's talking about.
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I don't know.
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It's the only thing I can think of.
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Yeah.
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So the respondent is using X and YouTube to encourage harassment, make veiled threats
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that I should be dead.
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Well, I mean, I said everybody missed like I should be dead.
01:30:02.060 --> 01:30:06.340
I said that because they they're like, oh, you you want any worse key to be dead.
01:30:06.340 --> 01:30:09.140
I said, I said, Coach Red Pill is dead.
01:30:10.860 --> 01:30:12.180
Any worse key should be.
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I tried.
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It wasn't like morally Andy Worsky should be dead.
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It's like we we all did a bunch of drugs.
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We should have we should all died.
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Like we did a bunch of stupid stuff.
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Any worse.
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He was lighting his nipples on fire.
01:30:25.540 --> 01:30:26.780
He was doing so much cocaine.
01:30:26.780 --> 01:30:28.260
Like wild.
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Come on.
01:30:31.140 --> 01:30:36.140
But yeah, so like, yeah, saying someone should be dead, first of all, isn't
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harassment.
01:30:37.060 --> 01:30:41.780
So it's kind of interesting for talking for talking to police about his cocaine
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rest in May of twenty four.
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I don't I don't recall doing that for that purpose at all.
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Do you believe the harassment will continue?
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Yes.
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He seems unhinged in regards to me and obsessed with inflicting whatever kind of
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punishment he feels I deserve.
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I do believe he could get physical at some point.
01:31:07.140 --> 01:31:10.060
Well, what is what is this?
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It's so wild.
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Again, I haven't even seen this person in over a year until his and the only place
01:31:18.620 --> 01:31:20.060
I've seen him is in a court gallery.
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Mm hmm.
01:31:21.460 --> 01:31:27.780
Like this is crazy down like the part about you getting physical.
01:31:27.780 --> 01:31:32.540
It's just like, aren't you the one who said that if I'm going to box with five
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people, this guy Nick needs to be there or else I'm not doing it.
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And I'll kill him.
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I will kill him in the ring.
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He might get physical at some point.
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Oh, boy.
01:31:51.540 --> 01:31:52.420
It's so goofy.
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So he didn't.
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I was just trying to think if there was something else I just it was I might have
01:31:59.340 --> 01:32:07.380
dropped a page two, but I just him saying that I organized people to one that he oh,
01:32:07.380 --> 01:32:11.900
he said I organized people to make a police report, which I didn't do.
01:32:12.700 --> 01:32:15.740
I didn't even encourage it on Melton show.
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If if I recall my own words correctly, I simply said if people are doing this, the
01:32:21.820 --> 01:32:26.940
court made it clear that they are hearing them and they also made it clear that clips
01:32:27.340 --> 01:32:34.180
or timestamped links to the original show is the most valuable because they can't go
01:32:34.180 --> 01:32:37.220
through four hours of content like that.
01:32:37.300 --> 01:32:42.140
That isn't encouraging any I don't give a shit if people report like I'm the one who
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I am the one who reports or whatever.
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I'm the one like who's responsible for protecting my spouse.
01:32:51.300 --> 01:32:54.020
So I'm the one who monitors it and looks for it.
01:32:54.060 --> 01:32:57.380
And if other people like do it, fine, I guess.
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Like, but I'm not asking anybody to and I never have.
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So it's it's just crazy that he he's said stuff like that because he's literally done
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this to me. He's encouraged people to report me for all of these crimes.
01:33:12.340 --> 01:33:18.740
He's encouraged people to try and get me to violate my my probation conditions.
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He's encouraged he I believe he was able to spike my drink and stuff in Vegas.
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Like, it's it's utterly nuts that this person is is trying to pull this off.
01:33:32.060 --> 01:33:38.860
This HRO to me, when I first heard about it happening, felt to me as if it was an
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attempt to separate your support for your wife, who happens to be the victim in the
01:33:46.180 --> 01:33:47.340
revenge porn case.
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It felt very and I hope that I mean, you know, hopefully the judge will also sort
01:33:52.780 --> 01:33:53.900
of see it similarly.
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But it just felt like trying to drive a wedge and separate you from that amount
01:33:58.460 --> 01:33:59.180
of support. That's
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yeah. So
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police reports and any report to a government official is is a privileged
01:34:11.540 --> 01:34:16.940
communication, which means if you call in the police, like you can call in the
01:34:16.940 --> 01:34:24.300
police and say we'll say veto because you know, because veto is a veto is
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invading a kindergarten right now.
01:34:26.260 --> 01:34:29.220
And those children are in danger of either being molested or eaten.
01:34:29.220 --> 01:34:30.260
And we're not sure which one.
01:34:30.740 --> 01:34:35.740
Right. And like, so you call that and veto is not at the playground, but you
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had some sort of some sort of belief or the kindergarten, some sort of belief
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that he was, but he's not there.
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Your privilege from defamation, your privilege from some false statement or
01:34:44.820 --> 01:34:49.060
false light thing because you made a police report in good faith with the
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information that you had.
01:34:50.580 --> 01:34:52.420
So you can't sue someone over police reports.
01:34:52.780 --> 01:34:55.420
Now, if you make the police report and then you take the police report and you
01:34:55.420 --> 01:34:58.180
run to the public and be like, see, there's a police report about it.
01:34:58.220 --> 01:34:58.460
Right.
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Or you falsify something.
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Obviously there can be consequences, but otherwise they're privileged
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communications.
01:35:04.060 --> 01:35:10.700
And so any reports that are made about, you know, about his behavior, even if
01:35:10.700 --> 01:35:13.740
people are wrong, like it's still privileged.
01:35:13.780 --> 01:35:19.300
And you, you have a right to access the criminal justice system, especially as
01:35:19.300 --> 01:35:23.420
a, as a victim, but you have a right to access the criminal justice system in
01:35:23.420 --> 01:35:26.980
its entirety and also the judiciary in its entirety.
01:35:27.420 --> 01:35:31.100
And someone trying to foreclose that right through a restraining order, we'll
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find that judges don't really like that at all.
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You have to have a, to get someone restrained from making police reports,
01:35:37.380 --> 01:35:41.860
they have to have a long history of making, uh, verifiably false police
01:35:41.860 --> 01:35:43.380
reports or making false statements.
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And specifically typically false statements about you.
01:35:47.140 --> 01:35:52.740
So like the, uh, the, this one, I, but I think it's ignorance, honestly, I
01:35:52.740 --> 01:35:56.620
think, I think maybe he thinks that if there's a restraining order, I can't
01:35:56.620 --> 01:35:58.700
show up to court, right?
01:35:58.700 --> 01:35:59.860
Like, but he's wrong.
01:36:01.100 --> 01:36:04.340
Even if there is a restraining order, how they handle that is like, you
01:36:04.340 --> 01:36:05.860
have access to the courtroom.
01:36:06.220 --> 01:36:09.500
So what they would do is get a bailiff and bring that in there.
01:36:09.500 --> 01:36:12.740
And they, you know, they, they'd say, you, you do anything and you're gone.
01:36:12.740 --> 01:36:14.540
Like you're arrested, et cetera.
01:36:14.540 --> 01:36:18.700
Do you not think that you'd be able to show up to a court hearing to defend
01:36:18.700 --> 01:36:20.820
yourself from this HRO, like?
01:36:21.220 --> 01:36:25.380
No, I think, I think he was more thinking, me show up in the gallery
01:36:25.420 --> 01:36:27.380
for the first sentencing hearing.
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Yeah.
01:36:28.500 --> 01:36:35.980
Again, a court, the idea of a court issuing an order, restricting someone
01:36:35.980 --> 01:36:40.580
from accessing the courthouse is so rare.
01:36:41.260 --> 01:36:42.780
It's so rare.
01:36:43.100 --> 01:36:44.260
You have to do a lot.
01:36:44.700 --> 01:36:48.340
Um, because they'll, they'll give you ever, it's a fundamental right.
01:36:48.460 --> 01:36:52.540
Like it's, it would have to, and they're less restrictive means
01:36:52.540 --> 01:36:54.020
than banning you from the courthouse.
01:36:54.020 --> 01:36:55.900
Like I said, they can have a bailiff watch you.
01:36:55.900 --> 01:36:59.380
They can have you, um, you know, they can have you maybe in a separate
01:36:59.380 --> 01:37:01.540
room or something, but they can't stop you from showing up.
01:37:01.660 --> 01:37:03.020
That's a, it's a public building.
01:37:05.140 --> 01:37:08.740
But, um, yeah, I guess there's not really much more in here.
01:37:08.820 --> 01:37:13.860
I just, I found all of the, it's, it's just very telling, um, about where
01:37:13.860 --> 01:37:19.220
his mind is and I do, I do believe it's, it's openly retaliatory and I think
01:37:19.220 --> 01:37:20.860
it fits right in with his epiphany.
01:37:20.900 --> 01:37:24.940
I think this is what he was writing while he was, um, while he was up at
01:37:24.940 --> 01:37:27.180
his cabin in the woods before his hearing.
01:37:27.220 --> 01:37:33.140
And, uh, that to me is unfathomably idiotic.
01:37:33.580 --> 01:37:34.580
Yeah.
01:37:35.420 --> 01:37:40.500
I mean, he, he should have been working so hard on, um, what his defense
01:37:40.500 --> 01:37:44.980
statement is because he had to know, he had to know what, well, I shouldn't say
01:37:44.980 --> 01:37:50.900
that his PSI report was filed only two days before its hearing, which that, um,
01:37:51.300 --> 01:37:52.780
his lawyer should have told him.
01:37:53.180 --> 01:37:56.500
And he probably did because remember whatever he says is the opposite.
01:37:56.940 --> 01:37:59.580
So he said, Tom Peterson was like, Oh, if you had anything to worry about,
01:38:00.020 --> 01:38:03.580
I would have told you, but he was acting really worried the whole time.
01:38:04.340 --> 01:38:04.540
Yeah.
01:38:05.180 --> 01:38:11.420
And so that, that PSI report taking that long to get there, I didn't, there was
01:38:11.420 --> 01:38:17.220
a communication error with my attorney and I, my PSI report was filed, um, and
01:38:17.220 --> 01:38:23.700
didn't get delivered to me, uh, for like, it was delayed by like a week or a week
01:38:23.700 --> 01:38:28.500
and a half and, but it was filed like almost two weeks prior to my sentencing.
01:38:28.940 --> 01:38:34.060
His file two days prior, which meant they were watching through that, like
01:38:34.060 --> 01:38:39.980
through that entire time, two days, two days prior is almost to the point where
01:38:40.260 --> 01:38:44.660
Todd Peterson should have objected to the PSI report at all.
01:38:44.700 --> 01:38:49.260
Like he should have, he didn't because they didn't end up, they didn't end up
01:38:49.260 --> 01:38:50.780
using it because of the violations.
01:38:50.820 --> 01:38:54.060
And maybe he was planning on objecting to it, but having it filed that
01:38:54.060 --> 01:38:57.740
late is almost like too late, but the state always does it.
01:38:58.260 --> 01:39:02.780
But it would merit a filing in my opinion, because it's like, wait, we
01:39:02.780 --> 01:39:04.620
got to prepare our response in two days.
01:39:04.660 --> 01:39:08.940
Like we don't get, we don't get a week for this, but that should have been his
01:39:09.700 --> 01:39:12.700
huge indication that he was about to get royally fisted.
01:39:13.420 --> 01:39:17.980
Um, and you just, yeah, you want your stuff to be there early.
01:39:17.980 --> 01:39:20.820
You want the government to let you know that everything's going to be
01:39:20.820 --> 01:39:23.020
this way as soon as possible.
01:39:23.060 --> 01:39:25.380
You do not want them filing at the 11th hour.
01:39:26.380 --> 01:39:32.460
And so his whole bravado was, was amazing, but he would have gotten, uh, he got
01:39:32.460 --> 01:39:33.900
Kayla's victim impact statement.
01:39:36.980 --> 01:39:42.820
He would have gotten, he would have gotten the reports, um, made about his
01:39:42.820 --> 01:39:47.340
release condition violations, even if he hadn't gotten the, the violation order.
01:39:47.780 --> 01:39:51.100
He probably got the reports about them and what was in them.
01:39:51.340 --> 01:39:54.820
And I have a feeling the moment he looked at those, he went, oh shit.
01:39:55.700 --> 01:39:58.780
Like these aren't, these aren't just like a random email.
01:39:58.860 --> 01:40:03.460
Like some people try to report shit about me and it was always, it was literally
01:40:03.460 --> 01:40:05.020
a random email to like the judge.
01:40:06.620 --> 01:40:07.900
You can't, you can't do this.
01:40:07.900 --> 01:40:11.420
Like the court can't even consider this stuff, but, um, I'm not aware of
01:40:11.420 --> 01:40:13.100
anybody reporting anything substantive.
01:40:13.100 --> 01:40:16.820
And if they did the PSI completely disregarded it, none of it was in there.
01:40:17.340 --> 01:40:19.420
But I, Aaron's I think was way different.
01:40:19.740 --> 01:40:21.420
I think his was much, much worse.
01:40:22.300 --> 01:40:22.620
Yeah.
01:40:22.660 --> 01:40:29.140
Well, I, we had talked about this when we, uh, did our show with Leo on Wednesday,
01:40:29.500 --> 01:40:35.900
because, um, Leo, who is, uh, who was a paralegal out in Alaska, I was, was
01:40:36.180 --> 01:40:42.780
saying that looking at Aaron's case, if you were like someone who wasn't in this
01:40:42.780 --> 01:40:47.140
world or didn't really understand or watch a show or anything like that, you
01:40:47.140 --> 01:40:52.380
would have no understanding of any of the context to any of like little clips
01:40:52.380 --> 01:40:53.660
that people would send you.
01:40:53.940 --> 01:41:00.700
And it's like people, if people were sending the prosecutor or whatever, all
01:41:00.700 --> 01:41:06.660
these little timestamps for this past year, it helped, it actually helped her
01:41:06.700 --> 01:41:11.740
gain the context of him even more.
01:41:11.740 --> 01:41:17.100
So him complaining about him saying that the prosecutor was so upset
01:41:17.100 --> 01:41:20.420
about all these people harassing her with these clips.
01:41:20.420 --> 01:41:25.460
It actually did help them understand.
01:41:25.820 --> 01:41:26.900
No, I think so.
01:41:26.900 --> 01:41:31.500
And the other thing that I think it did is, uh, you know, they indicated they
01:41:31.500 --> 01:41:35.700
got multiple sources, like almost daily for a year.
01:41:36.340 --> 01:41:42.340
I think what it did was they go, this guy's menace, like this guy's an actual look
01:41:42.820 --> 01:41:48.820
and she even said, which I, I actually have problems with this legally, but I'm
01:41:48.820 --> 01:41:49.380
not his lawyer.
01:41:50.140 --> 01:41:56.380
Uh, she said the volume of the claims that we got suggested that there was a
01:41:56.380 --> 01:42:01.060
real problem, which I don't like that.
01:42:01.060 --> 01:42:04.300
Like from a legal perspective, I want the quality of the claims.
01:42:05.340 --> 01:42:09.540
I want them to get one claim and go, holy shit, like this, this is well
01:42:09.540 --> 01:42:11.500
researched and this clearly shows it.
01:42:11.540 --> 01:42:12.660
And I want them to act on it.
01:42:12.660 --> 01:42:17.340
And they, they really don't, but when they're getting two, four, five, 10
01:42:17.340 --> 01:42:20.100
emails a day, and like some of these days, you know, they were getting
01:42:20.100 --> 01:42:24.740
significant amounts because he would be so brutal in the violations.
01:42:25.100 --> 01:42:28.660
And so when they're getting just all of these hammered in the go, okay, no,
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like these people care, like this guy's actually impacting the community.
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And one of the things people overlook, I think in probation, uh, determinations
01:42:38.580 --> 01:42:42.180
is the big part of probation is integration with the community and the
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safety of the community.
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And what is the community is not just Stearns County, right?
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It's the online community that he participates in is the community that,
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uh, that the judge also has a, has a duty to protect from criminal activity
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or that the court system, not the judge specifically, but the court system does.
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And the judge's responsibility in setting probation violations is to help
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protect that community as well.
01:43:05.740 --> 01:43:10.060
And so to have all of the people from that community come in and say, this
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guy's a menace within this community.
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Now the judge and prosecutor go, okay, no, we actually, we actually do
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have an obligation to protect here.
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And so I think, I think that really screwed him over.
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And I think his, I know his bravado did.
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I know that that four and a half hour, uh, real media player
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video made it into their hands.
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And I don't think that the court liked being told over and over how
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dumb it was, how ticky tacky it was, how stupid it was, how this is all
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just a vengeance campaign, how they are.
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I don't think they liked being implied that, uh, that I've paid them off.
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Um, or that they could be bought.
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Uh, those, those are things that if you're going to have the balls to
01:43:52.020 --> 01:43:56.700
say that your County prosecutor has been paid off, um, prepare
01:43:56.700 --> 01:43:59.100
yourself for prosecution, like just prepare yourself.
01:43:59.100 --> 01:44:00.540
Don't do anything wrong ever.
01:44:00.540 --> 01:44:02.580
You should never talk about your own County that way.
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And like, I I've talked about my own County's, uh, incompetence mildly
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over seven years, a couple of times.
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And I mean, they said in my family case, they just don't like what I say online.
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I barely even make fun of you guys.
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I mean, goodness gracious, but yeah, don't shit where you eat.
01:44:24.660 --> 01:44:26.060
And he, he shat all over it.
01:44:26.060 --> 01:44:29.940
So big mistake all the way up until the day before, maybe even
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the morning before he went.
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It was, yeah.
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Well, I mean, he, he did his, uh, his Zen epiphany moment.
01:44:37.380 --> 01:44:39.740
Like, I just know now what I'm going to do.
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It's like, you don't get to erase a year of bad behavior by just
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going, but he thinks he can, right?
01:44:46.700 --> 01:44:50.100
That's what he's done in his mind up to this point.
01:44:50.100 --> 01:44:53.060
He's like, well, I just had to say, sorry, you know, like 50 bucks.
01:44:53.180 --> 01:44:53.740
Sorry.
01:44:53.740 --> 01:44:57.460
It's like, well, I don't think 50 bucks and sorry, man.
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I don't think so.
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Um, and I'm, I'm really curious, uh, that, that hearing was very
01:45:05.180 --> 01:45:09.860
interesting because Todd Peterson saying we want to pull the transcript and see,
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um, do you guys have the plea petition handy real quick?
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And then I, I gotta go like shortly after, but I, I wanted to explore something.
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If it's a gross misdemeanor plea petition, something funny might've happened.
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You have that checking or?
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Hold on.
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So it was it.
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Okay.
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So is the plea agreement or whatever?
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Yes.
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So in Minnesota, there's two forms, uh, and one is for felonies and one is for
01:45:41.180 --> 01:45:42.620
misdemeanors and gross misdemeanors.
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You can use the felony one for the others, but the misdemeanor and gross
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misdemeanor has a specific feature on it.
01:45:49.820 --> 01:45:50.260
Okay.
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That's what he used.
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All right.
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Let me just stay right at the top in the caption.
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I'll find it.
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Give me, I'm just going to find it.
01:45:58.980 --> 01:46:02.580
I know you have to go in a minute, Nick, but I need you to watch the rest of the
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show either tonight or at some point plan on it, we have some really funny stuff
01:46:08.620 --> 01:46:10.580
that we're going to be presenting.
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No, it's fine.
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No, it's been cool.
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Um, do you need help on it?
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Jackie, or it's the, it's the petition to end the hearing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's fine.
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It's fine.
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It's fine.
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It's fine.
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It's fine.
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It's fine.
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It's fine.
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It's fine.
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It's fine.
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It's fine.
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It's fine.
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It's fine.
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It's fine.
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It's fine.
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It's fine.
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So it's the, it's the petition to enter the guilty plea.
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Is that the one?
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Okay.
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Tition to enter a plea of guilty.
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But I'm really looking forward to your show with, I think his name's
01:46:33.060 --> 01:46:33.700
Leo, right?
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The, the paralegal guy.
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Um, I like his, uh, his video is lacking a little bit of, you know, facts and
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stuff like that, which is fine.
01:46:45.580 --> 01:46:47.980
Like that, that's not a, that's not a downplay.
01:46:47.980 --> 01:46:49.740
It was so thorough and it was so good.
01:46:49.740 --> 01:46:50.860
Like he, he nailed it.
01:46:50.860 --> 01:46:53.060
So I was really like, I'm really looking forward to watching his
01:46:53.060 --> 01:46:53.820
interview with y'all.
01:46:53.820 --> 01:46:54.420
I want to see.
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Yeah, we had a good time.
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Yeah, we had such a great time.
01:46:57.260 --> 01:46:58.980
And he actually has a new video out too.
01:46:58.980 --> 01:47:02.740
That was, um, I've, I was able to watch the first half of it, but not the rest.
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But it was, but I saw it was good.
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Okay.
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So this is a felony.
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This is the felony plea petition.
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So I don't think they're going to have it, but if we just scroll through some,
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some of them, you have to put a factual basis on the petition, but I think
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his is just made in court.
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Um, I really want it.
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I want the transcript of his hearing of, of this plea hearing.
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Yeah, good.
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I don't, no one's got it.
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I think it's, uh, so harassment, um, harassment filings are done typically,
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Now you don't always say it in like precise legal terms, unless you're
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like a lawyer, like I am, and then you say it, like you say, I had cocaine.
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It was just mine.
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And, uh, and that's, that's what you leave it at.
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But, um, but yeah, so a lot of people, you know, since they're not lawyers,
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they answer more colloquially.
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And, uh, so I'm, I'm just curious what he said, uh, because now I need
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to see the plea petition.
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I didn't really before, but now I do.
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Um, is that something you can get?
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Is that something you can walk in and get from the portal?
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I know.
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Um, no, I don't believe we can access it from the portal, although I'm going to go
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try, um, most of the, most of the documents are confidential even for us.
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And it might take, so I think the rule is it will remain confidential and then
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it'll move to non-public after 90 days.
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We were going through that, uh, data practices act.
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And so, um, the close of the investigation is when the case is over and the appeal
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window has expired, um, or the appeal is, is completed.
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So, uh, the, the criminal investigation into him will end, uh, 21 days after his
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sentencing and then, uh, you can't, um, it's 90 days after that, I think that
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there's, there's some 90 day thing.
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I can't remember specifically, but, uh, but yeah, so it will probably take a
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while, but at some point, yes, um, we'll, we'll have to get it.
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I think it's silly because I think Kayla should be able to get it immediately.
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She's the victim.
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Um, I think she should have access to all the documents, but she doesn't.
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We're, we're actually as in the dark as, um, as everybody on just about
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everything, you know, except for stuff that like we submitted, right?
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So, right.
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Well, could you use his admissions literally like two hours after his plea,
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his plea hearing if, um, well, yeah, it just depends on if I can get the
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admissions, uh, but the sentencing sentencing will nail it anyway, because
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once he's, once he's sentenced, then he's adjudicated guilty.
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He is under the law.
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It's beyond a reasonable doubt and it has to cover every element.
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The statements help and the statements, you know, they, they may help in
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something like determining damages because the civil statute doesn't have
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the intent element to make it a felony intent would be considered in damages.
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Right.
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Like if you're intending to harass someone versus negligently, like accidentally
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sending a picture, you know, that, that would matter a lot in a civil suit.
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Um, but, uh, but it's not in the, uh, it's not in the statute specifically.
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So, you know, depending on what he said in court, but he's already said it
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was bully shit on his show, whoops.
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You really shouldn't have talked.
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Like if they pull his plea right now, if they pull his plea, he has admitted to
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the crime, he's admitted to the felony level of the crime, um, he's gloated
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about it and if they wanted to, they could, they can try him and bury him.
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I mean, how, what would, what would he say?
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Like, I didn't mean it.
01:52:10.060 --> 01:52:12.500
Like you, one, you've admitted to all this stuff.
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Now you're admitting in your apology tour that it was, uh, that you did
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it for bullying purposes, like you're done game over and, um, he's in,
01:52:21.860 --> 01:52:26.460
he's in so much trouble and, uh, people are speculating that Todd Peterson
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might, or he and Todd might be pulling the plea, but I think they're actually
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more worried about the plea being, uh, blown up by the judge.
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I do think that, um, there's a strong indication that the judge was ready
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to reject the plea hearing or the plea agreement.
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And, um, uh, I think someone was talking about it.
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Um, there's maybe it might've been girl Friday, but someone was talking
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about the fact that he didn't take sentencing at the time is actually
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probably a bad move because the judge probably would have sentenced him
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harshly under the plea agreement.
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Um, because she couldn't blow up the plea agreement and then sentence him
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like that, that wouldn't work.
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So she, if she blew up the plea agreement, you'd have to go to trial.
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Well, she gave him the option to take sentencing that day.
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He didn't take it that day.
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Now he has three months and the judge could reject the plea deal in that time.
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And if the judge rejects the plea deal, he's, he's looking at, I, and, and I
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think this might be happening behind the scenes, they might be having to
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renegotiate that plea at a felony level.
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Cause there's no way the prosecutor lets it go after like, after the
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violations and stuff like that there.
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And, uh,
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the language in the transcripts.
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I mean, for us who weren't in the room, I mean, the judge, how
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many times she said, sir, that was one, I was like, oh boy, she's pissed.
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The court is not amused.
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I was like, you never want to start with that.
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Oh my God.
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That means, so what, what I found that to be interesting was, so there's,
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there's all the clips of, uh, him violating, but the judge is taking
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particular note of the smug attitude.
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And the, the Cavalier, the Cavalier approach that he had to it.
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And when the court, you might be amused.
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You think this is funny.
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The court doesn't find this funny.
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Like that's, that's what was being said.
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It's not just like, well, the court's mad at you.
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Like to me anyway, that's, that's what I was getting out of that.
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But man, what a mess.
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But I, I think, I think it's possible that they are negotiating
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a new plea agreement right now.
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And, and the thing is like, you're going to go to trial because, uh, nobody's
01:54:52.740 --> 01:54:55.220
happy about this unless you negotiate it back.
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And I think if he gets back to a gross misdemeanor, if they preserve that
01:54:58.660 --> 01:55:03.580
aspect of it, he's going to have significant jail time, like 30, 60 or 90
01:55:03.580 --> 01:55:08.980
days jail, um, and, and he's not going to get a state, he already didn't
01:55:08.980 --> 01:55:10.100
have a state of adjudication.
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So you have to look at this thing and go, this deal gets worse.
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It doesn't get better.
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It only gets worse.
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So you're, if you're keeping gross miss, you're going to get jail time.
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The only way to avoid jail time, maybe is to get the felony and, uh, with no
01:55:24.340 --> 01:55:29.700
state of adjudication and having a felony on your record forever, you don't want
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that at all.
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It makes life really, really irritating.
01:55:34.380 --> 01:55:34.980
Dude.
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So I think he's in a lot of trouble, um, behind the scenes.
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And I think maybe Todd Peterson just took a baseball bat to his testicles
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over and over.
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Like, what the fuck were you doing?
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Cause I, this is, this is a flat fee attorney, right?
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Aaron paid him eight grand.
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I'm like, like he said, make grand on the credit card.
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No big deal.
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As if, as if anybody just walks around and is like, yeah, eight grand.
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Who cares?
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Like everybody cares.
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Even rich people care about eight grand.
01:56:03.580 --> 01:56:10.700
But, um, but so this guy's flat fee, his job is to get a plea and to get it in
01:56:10.700 --> 01:56:12.780
the least amount of hours worked possible.
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Yeah.
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This guy's, this guy's client goes online, blows everything up, makes every
01:56:21.660 --> 01:56:27.540
admission possible and might lose the ability to plea in the first place.
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So now he's looking at trial prep and he's got to catch up on the online
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activities that I don't think he was even aware of, which means, look, I mean,
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the documents that I sent in were fairly thorough, but they will pale in comparison
01:56:45.260 --> 01:56:50.780
to a thousand emails and who knows, like, who knows how many they actually got.
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But if you, if this guy is having to read, let's say he reads a hundred emails,
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you know, he's going to bill a 10th of an hour per email minimum.
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And that, that's just to open them up.
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He's going to bill a 10th of an hour.
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If he starts billing hourly, he's not going to flat fee through a trial.
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I guarantee you as close as possible.
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His retainer agreement says on, you know, condition of a plea agreement
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and it's a conditional retainer.
01:57:17.500 --> 01:57:21.220
So if you want to go to trial, there's going to be an additional discussion
01:57:21.260 --> 01:57:25.820
about a retainer and probably an hourly rate, because there's just no way he can't.
01:57:26.300 --> 01:57:28.820
It would cost $8,000 for him to sit through a trial.
01:57:30.020 --> 01:57:31.780
He'd lose all of the retainer money.
01:57:31.780 --> 01:57:36.820
So if they're having that discussion, someone's going to be sweating bullets.
01:57:36.940 --> 01:57:40.620
And I think, again, I think that might be why there's no, um,
01:57:40.700 --> 01:57:42.820
that he filed this one, uh, on his own.
01:57:43.020 --> 01:57:44.020
He didn't use a lawyer.
01:57:44.780 --> 01:57:45.020
Yeah.
01:57:45.020 --> 01:57:45.780
I think so too.
01:57:45.820 --> 01:57:46.860
Time to raise the goal.
01:57:46.900 --> 01:57:47.580
Everybody.
01:57:48.780 --> 01:57:53.100
As I saw on the Reddit, someone was like gold days, 3,447.
01:57:57.900 --> 01:57:58.780
Something's sweating him.
01:57:58.780 --> 01:58:00.220
He's got bubbly guts lately.
01:58:00.220 --> 01:58:00.700
So
01:58:01.700 --> 01:58:06.940
his weird, like, uh, his weird erection poop was strange, right?
01:58:06.940 --> 01:58:13.660
Like that was a, that was a weird conversation that he came back from pooping
01:58:13.660 --> 01:58:17.380
and just started talking about, like having an erection while pooping, like very weird.
01:58:19.900 --> 01:58:23.260
I know it's getting so gross.
01:58:24.580 --> 01:58:25.500
It's odd.
01:58:26.540 --> 01:58:27.060
Okay.
01:58:27.820 --> 01:58:28.340
Hold on.
01:58:28.380 --> 01:58:29.140
I've got a clip.
01:58:29.980 --> 01:58:31.780
You've got a clip, oh boy.
01:58:32.100 --> 01:58:33.300
I just remembered this.
01:58:35.420 --> 01:58:37.340
Uh, where is it?
01:58:39.060 --> 01:58:39.860
Play a clip.
01:58:40.340 --> 01:58:41.500
Play the clip.
01:58:42.660 --> 01:58:43.020
Yeah.
01:58:43.020 --> 01:58:46.980
It's gotten really, while you're looking at it, like I would list, I was telling
01:58:46.980 --> 01:58:52.180
Haley earlier, I listened to about 30 minutes of his Thursday show while I was
01:58:52.180 --> 01:58:53.900
making breakfast and I had turned it off.
01:58:53.900 --> 01:58:56.780
I was like, it is eight in the morning, sir.
01:58:56.900 --> 01:58:59.140
I do not want to be hearing about this shit.
01:59:00.660 --> 01:59:01.020
Yeah.
01:59:01.020 --> 01:59:05.380
It's like, oh, I have coffee with my discussion of anal sex.
01:59:05.380 --> 01:59:05.940
That'd be great.
01:59:06.180 --> 01:59:06.740
Yeah.
01:59:06.740 --> 01:59:10.060
It's like, um, here we go.
01:59:11.500 --> 01:59:12.100
Here we go.
01:59:12.100 --> 01:59:12.580
Okay.
01:59:13.100 --> 01:59:17.940
So this is, uh, this is just a two minute clip.
01:59:18.620 --> 01:59:24.380
Now look, I'm an expert on this subject.
01:59:24.420 --> 01:59:25.980
You'll understand very quickly.
01:59:26.940 --> 01:59:29.580
Uh, let me share this.
01:59:32.500 --> 01:59:33.060
Almost there.
01:59:33.220 --> 01:59:33.740
My bad.
01:59:34.660 --> 01:59:35.020
Terrible.
01:59:35.020 --> 01:59:35.300
It is.
01:59:41.580 --> 01:59:41.900
Okay.
01:59:44.940 --> 01:59:45.900
This is from the Reddit.
01:59:46.260 --> 01:59:46.860
This is from the Reddit.
01:59:46.860 --> 01:59:48.820
Hopefully, uh, all the volume works.
01:59:48.820 --> 01:59:49.220
Let me know.
01:59:50.540 --> 01:59:50.940
Yes.
01:59:51.900 --> 01:59:52.180
Okay.
01:59:52.540 --> 01:59:53.300
I'm going to mute it.
01:59:53.660 --> 01:59:55.660
I'm going to mute the, okay.
01:59:56.300 --> 01:59:57.820
I'm going to mute the copyrighted audio.
01:59:58.020 --> 01:59:58.340
Thank you.
01:59:58.340 --> 01:59:58.980
Appreciate that.
01:59:59.940 --> 02:00:00.420
No problem.
02:00:00.420 --> 02:00:04.740
He left this up while he was poop pooping.
02:00:05.180 --> 02:00:07.580
Well, no, no, that's not what he was doing this time.
02:00:08.100 --> 02:00:13.660
Oh, there's you and him together in the little thumbnail.
02:00:14.020 --> 02:00:14.500
Lovely.
02:00:14.500 --> 02:00:15.740
That's, that's precious.
02:00:16.460 --> 02:00:16.700
Okay.
02:00:16.700 --> 02:00:18.580
So he's, he's coming back now.
02:00:18.980 --> 02:00:25.020
I just, I want you to watch him, watch him as he's just come
02:00:25.020 --> 02:00:28.460
back from his third break of the hour.
02:00:29.500 --> 02:00:32.660
Watch his energy and watch what he watches face.
02:00:33.940 --> 02:00:35.060
Oh my.
02:00:37.140 --> 02:00:40.220
And I looked exactly like this.
02:00:42.340 --> 02:00:43.980
I apologize.
02:00:45.220 --> 02:00:47.340
Did I not make it back in time?
02:00:48.780 --> 02:00:49.620
I've given the speech.
02:00:49.700 --> 02:00:50.900
Oh, my bad.
02:00:50.940 --> 02:00:52.060
We'll get back to it.
02:00:52.660 --> 02:00:54.540
I've given this exact speech coming back from.
02:00:54.620 --> 02:00:56.820
Oh, people saying dead air, dead air.
02:00:56.820 --> 02:00:59.820
They're saying, oh no, they're saying he's Hassan pikering it.
02:00:59.860 --> 02:01:00.460
I am.
02:01:00.500 --> 02:01:02.900
I'm Hassanning it, but I'm sorry.
02:01:02.900 --> 02:01:05.020
My stomach is not good.
02:01:05.220 --> 02:01:06.740
At least stomach, you know, is it Sharon?
02:01:06.780 --> 02:01:10.820
I'm just, um, I'm Aaron out, I guess.
02:01:10.860 --> 02:01:11.420
Watch this.
02:01:11.420 --> 02:01:13.020
Doggo doesn't die with 20 bucks.
02:01:13.020 --> 02:01:14.540
You know, just for you, buddy.
02:01:14.540 --> 02:01:15.220
Thank you.
02:01:15.340 --> 02:01:15.620
Good.
02:01:15.620 --> 02:01:16.500
Wash my hands.
02:01:16.580 --> 02:01:19.540
Very wash your hands, but just wash your nose off.
02:01:20.180 --> 02:01:24.460
Yeah, I'm just, I'm not my, my stomach is not doing
02:01:24.460 --> 02:01:25.100
great.
02:01:25.140 --> 02:01:27.620
I know at the moment, I'm sorry.
02:01:27.660 --> 02:01:30.780
Certain things that doggo doesn't die.
02:01:31.820 --> 02:01:32.180
Hold on.
02:01:32.180 --> 02:01:36.580
He's now at one 26 for today.
02:01:36.580 --> 02:01:40.780
Zen man is now in second at one 16.
02:01:41.740 --> 02:01:45.300
And then you got Steven and Miss Tay at third and fourth.
02:01:46.020 --> 02:01:47.700
There's more to this clip, but trust me.
02:01:47.700 --> 02:01:48.340
Effectively.
02:01:48.380 --> 02:01:48.580
Yeah.
02:01:48.580 --> 02:01:50.140
I'm sorry about the dead air guys.
02:01:50.140 --> 02:01:51.700
Incredibly unprofessional.
02:01:51.700 --> 02:01:52.740
Another nose grab.
02:01:52.780 --> 02:01:53.540
My bad.
02:01:55.460 --> 02:01:58.580
We didn't eat the whole pizza.
02:01:58.580 --> 02:02:03.820
I had two slices of the pizza and that would end.
02:02:03.820 --> 02:02:08.420
Um, I only wash my hands when I get shit on them.
02:02:08.420 --> 02:02:09.780
Says roots itchy.
02:02:09.780 --> 02:02:10.180
Isn't it?
02:02:10.180 --> 02:02:11.220
And that was itchy.
02:02:13.620 --> 02:02:15.980
Oh, my stomach hurts.
02:02:16.180 --> 02:02:18.700
We actually, I feel better now.
02:02:19.260 --> 02:02:21.300
Do you remember Haley?
02:02:21.340 --> 02:02:26.340
It was like last show or like a few shows ago where we were like, how
02:02:26.340 --> 02:02:28.580
many times has this dude touched his nose?
02:02:29.900 --> 02:02:30.900
He comes back.
02:02:31.220 --> 02:02:36.540
I, so I have, so I saw that and it was, I hate saying this, but it was like
02:02:36.540 --> 02:02:41.980
looking in a mirror of when I was using and would leave the stream and come back.
02:02:42.220 --> 02:02:46.860
He came back with energy, came back so smug, like, Oh, was I gone so long?
02:02:47.660 --> 02:02:49.900
Little, little giggle, like right to himself.
02:02:50.180 --> 02:02:55.500
He's immediately grabbing his red nose, uh, three times in two minutes.
02:02:55.660 --> 02:02:57.140
That's not an edited clip.
02:02:58.060 --> 02:03:00.660
I've been suspecting for a while.
02:03:00.700 --> 02:03:07.220
Like I, I think, man, I've, I've thought he's been using for some time now.
02:03:07.860 --> 02:03:09.580
It's, it was very similar.
02:03:10.020 --> 02:03:11.660
The weight loss is the only thing missing.
02:03:11.660 --> 02:03:13.340
You know, like, look at those shins.
02:03:13.340 --> 02:03:14.140
Holy shit.
02:03:14.820 --> 02:03:15.620
That's fair enough.
02:03:16.300 --> 02:03:23.900
That was, that was really similar to the, him trying to do his impression
02:03:23.940 --> 02:03:26.500
of you coming back with it on your nose.
02:03:26.900 --> 02:03:27.140
Yeah.
02:03:27.140 --> 02:03:28.860
I bet it put him side by side.
02:03:28.860 --> 02:03:31.940
It was actually quite similar because I was watching his eyes and the way that
02:03:31.940 --> 02:03:35.980
he came in from the mic when he sat down, the one where he had like the, the, I
02:03:35.980 --> 02:03:38.820
don't know what it was powder or something like all up under on his lip.
02:03:39.460 --> 02:03:39.700
Yeah.
02:03:39.740 --> 02:03:41.780
It looked very, very similar to that.
02:03:42.500 --> 02:03:44.100
Uh, no, we've been saying the same thing.
02:03:44.100 --> 02:03:48.500
With the nose scratching and the energy and the not sleeping and, uh, tell
02:03:48.500 --> 02:03:50.100
me bubble guts.
02:03:52.020 --> 02:03:53.780
It's, um, it's, it's weird.
02:03:53.780 --> 02:03:59.500
I look, I, I would not accuse him of using as much as I was or anything like that.
02:03:59.980 --> 02:04:04.460
It's just, he's been talking about having, yeah, low energy on the show.
02:04:04.860 --> 02:04:08.380
And then he's coming back from, he's going to a lot of bathroom breaks
02:04:08.380 --> 02:04:10.500
lately and he keeps blaming his stomach.
02:04:10.540 --> 02:04:15.540
He's gone for a little bit, like a little bit of a long time each time.
02:04:15.780 --> 02:04:19.100
Um, this is when he was gone for, you know, through a whole song.
02:04:19.460 --> 02:04:25.180
Um, and then a little bit, there's some dead air afterwards, uh, probably
02:04:25.180 --> 02:04:33.380
about 20 seconds, but, um, so his bathroom is, uh, 12 feet away.
02:04:33.420 --> 02:04:36.380
Like he is, does not have to go anywhere to go to the bathroom.
02:04:36.580 --> 02:04:39.100
He just gets up and he's right there.
02:04:39.220 --> 02:04:44.300
It's, it's nowhere, there's no distance between this wall and the bathroom.
02:04:44.860 --> 02:04:50.540
Um, so that's not, uh, if he's gone for any period of time, he's doing something
02:04:50.540 --> 02:04:54.060
else and there's myriad other things you could be doing when you're gone.
02:04:54.060 --> 02:04:59.020
Like, of course these, like that, I saw that and I was like, that looked
02:04:59.020 --> 02:05:02.660
exactly like me, that looked exactly like how I would come back.
02:05:02.700 --> 02:05:03.860
I would giggle to myself.
02:05:03.860 --> 02:05:07.660
I think it was so funny that I would go off and I would do, you know,
02:05:07.660 --> 02:05:08.820
I would do whatever drugs.
02:05:09.180 --> 02:05:12.980
Or whatever, and I would come back and, um, you don't really notice that
02:05:12.980 --> 02:05:14.460
you're touching your nose so much.
02:05:14.460 --> 02:05:17.660
And things are, you know, they, it's just like, oh yeah, well, my nose itches.
02:05:18.340 --> 02:05:19.060
Of course it does.
02:05:19.540 --> 02:05:21.340
Like, well, yes, it's hollow on the inside.
02:05:21.340 --> 02:05:24.580
No, you were, you were fooling no one.
02:05:24.620 --> 02:05:28.220
Unfortunately, I wasn't, I wasn't really trying to fool anyone.
02:05:28.260 --> 02:05:31.300
I was mostly, I didn't want a clip of me saying I'm doing cocaine.
02:05:31.300 --> 02:05:38.620
Like for sure, but, but, uh, it gives you unlimited levels of confidence.
02:05:38.620 --> 02:05:41.580
So you just don't, you know, you don't worry about people.
02:05:41.820 --> 02:05:43.140
I didn't worry about people knowing.
02:05:43.140 --> 02:05:46.340
I didn't give a shit if people knew at all in reality.
02:05:46.740 --> 02:05:51.740
Um, I just couldn't have the clip, uh, online, but if, if you knew me in person,
02:05:51.740 --> 02:05:52.780
I'd probably tell you about it.
02:05:53.140 --> 02:05:53.460
Right.
02:05:53.460 --> 02:05:54.180
Like at the time.
02:05:54.780 --> 02:05:58.660
And so, um, but yeah, the way he came back, I was like, that looked just like me.
02:05:58.660 --> 02:05:59.860
That was, that was creepy.
02:05:59.900 --> 02:06:02.500
Like that was unfucking settling to me.
02:06:02.580 --> 02:06:04.740
He has been going to the bathroom a lot lately.
02:06:04.740 --> 02:06:06.700
And I'm talking about even weeks back.
02:06:06.740 --> 02:06:10.740
I can remember him going to the bathroom like three or four times within a morning
02:06:10.740 --> 02:06:15.020
show, and that's not like him, you know, maybe once, maybe.
02:06:15.700 --> 02:06:18.580
It could be just wild anxiety.
02:06:18.980 --> 02:06:24.220
And I think, I think he's got, he's got tremendous levels of anxiety that he is
02:06:24.220 --> 02:06:28.660
trying to just, uh, you know, like he's got like the cannon plunger, like get
02:06:28.660 --> 02:06:36.460
down in there, like he is, um, his reality does is starting to crash down on all of
02:06:36.460 --> 02:06:41.140
these things and, um, and I think that that's bothering him and clearly with
02:06:41.140 --> 02:06:45.860
the stomach, but you know, uh, if you're just, if you're just doing coke and
02:06:45.860 --> 02:06:50.700
you're not eating well, um, you're, you get bubbly tummy too, like you have to
02:06:50.700 --> 02:06:54.700
make sure that you eat, you have to make sure you like eat and take the right
02:06:54.700 --> 02:06:56.820
vitamins when you're doing these substances.
02:06:56.860 --> 02:06:59.260
And he never listened to me when I explained what they were.
02:07:02.780 --> 02:07:04.340
It was like he, he never listened.
02:07:04.380 --> 02:07:07.900
And I don't know, I, I, I'm not at a place where I would definitely
02:07:07.900 --> 02:07:10.420
accuse him, but that looked real familiar.
02:07:10.420 --> 02:07:14.300
And he has, he has been increasing those bathroom trips.
02:07:14.380 --> 02:07:15.980
And I, I called it out months ago.
02:07:15.980 --> 02:07:19.100
I'm like, I think this guy's, I think he's back on, uh, I
02:07:19.100 --> 02:07:20.220
think he's back on something.
02:07:20.340 --> 02:07:22.020
It might not even be, it might not be Coke.
02:07:22.020 --> 02:07:22.700
It might be Molly.
02:07:23.180 --> 02:07:25.540
He liked Molly, um, so much.
02:07:26.700 --> 02:07:29.740
Uh, and Molly probably six times.
02:07:29.940 --> 02:07:30.460
Oh, really?
02:07:31.420 --> 02:07:34.420
Did you, did you hear the other clip?
02:07:35.220 --> 02:07:37.900
Did you hear the other clip that I think was from this show where he was talking
02:07:37.900 --> 02:07:42.900
about not being able to stop humping on SP fucking weird.
02:07:43.300 --> 02:07:43.620
Yeah.
02:07:43.620 --> 02:07:45.220
I'm just saying, you just say that about Molly.
02:07:45.220 --> 02:07:45.980
I've never done Molly.
02:07:45.980 --> 02:07:46.460
So I don't know.
02:07:46.460 --> 02:07:48.220
But from what I hear, you get all horny and shit.
02:07:48.220 --> 02:07:53.260
So I'm just wondering if maybe it's not a horny is not the right word from, I
02:07:53.260 --> 02:08:00.420
mean, you can, and, uh, being horny and sex on Molly is like the great
02:08:00.420 --> 02:08:02.460
greatest thing you can figure out.
02:08:02.460 --> 02:08:04.340
Like it's, it's hard to describe.
02:08:04.820 --> 02:08:05.140
Okay.
02:08:06.660 --> 02:08:07.660
That's why I wonder.
02:08:07.940 --> 02:08:08.300
Yeah.
02:08:08.380 --> 02:08:13.900
Uh, but the way you tend to act and the way he acted is, um, Oh, I can't say
02:08:13.900 --> 02:08:19.460
that word on your show, like a giant, um, well, like a giant gay slur or whatever.
02:08:20.020 --> 02:08:24.380
But, uh, if you see, if you see like a sweater, you're, you're going to touch
02:08:24.380 --> 02:08:27.860
it and it'd like, no, it doesn't matter who's wearing it or whatever.
02:08:27.860 --> 02:08:28.900
You're going to touch that sweater.
02:08:28.900 --> 02:08:30.380
Cause that sweater looks great.
02:08:30.420 --> 02:08:32.260
Like it looks like it feels really good.
02:08:32.820 --> 02:08:34.540
And it's not, it's not second.
02:08:34.540 --> 02:08:37.500
It's not like you're trying to grope the person that's just, that sweater
02:08:37.500 --> 02:08:38.980
looks so fucking touchable.
02:08:41.220 --> 02:08:42.020
Are there bristles?
02:08:42.020 --> 02:08:42.620
Is it wool?
02:08:42.620 --> 02:08:43.500
Like, what is it?
02:08:43.860 --> 02:08:47.220
And when you touch it, it's electric, it's electricity going through your
02:08:47.220 --> 02:08:49.380
hands and straight to your brain.
02:08:49.420 --> 02:08:54.620
And it, your brain is tricked because all of the serotonin that's been stored
02:08:54.620 --> 02:08:56.180
up in it is dumped into it.
02:08:56.500 --> 02:09:00.220
So everything you do feels like your greatest achievement ever.
02:09:00.340 --> 02:09:03.220
Like in everything you touch feels like the greatest thing you've ever touched.
02:09:03.820 --> 02:09:08.220
Like when I did it the first time, I literally just sat and like,
02:09:09.300 --> 02:09:12.340
humping isn't the right word, but I just sat and rubbed the wallpaper
02:09:12.340 --> 02:09:14.260
in the hotel room because it was textured.
02:09:14.460 --> 02:09:16.420
And I just sat and rubbed it for like 20 minutes.
02:09:16.420 --> 02:09:20.500
I'm like, Oh my God, like where do I buy this wallpaper?
02:09:21.340 --> 02:09:27.380
It's ridiculous, but there's, there's, he would be very touchy.
02:09:27.380 --> 02:09:30.820
So when he told the humping story and like how he's just uncontrollable, I'm
02:09:30.820 --> 02:09:35.020
like, I mean, I guess, but he, he wasn't like that on Molly.
02:09:35.180 --> 02:09:36.700
Like he wasn't humping people.
02:09:36.740 --> 02:09:40.420
He was just, there's just insufferably gay.
02:09:41.260 --> 02:09:45.140
Like, like you would send, he sent you.
02:09:45.140 --> 02:09:46.980
Your pants feel so great right now.
02:09:47.980 --> 02:09:51.420
Hey, listen, if I'm on Molly, it's fine.
02:09:51.420 --> 02:09:53.340
Everybody can touch him.
02:09:53.700 --> 02:09:54.220
It's okay.
02:09:55.100 --> 02:09:55.740
That's what it makes you.
02:09:55.740 --> 02:09:59.700
It also, the other, the other thing it does chemically is it releases
02:09:59.700 --> 02:10:02.260
oxytocin, which is a love hormone.
02:10:02.300 --> 02:10:06.220
And like it makes you, you just, you trust everybody, everybody.
02:10:06.220 --> 02:10:10.020
Like, so it's, it's a really, it's a really dangerous drug in that way.
02:10:10.020 --> 02:10:11.500
You should all, you should not do it.
02:10:11.700 --> 02:10:15.340
That's, I was going to say you should only do it when, but you should not do it.
02:10:15.420 --> 02:10:17.060
It's a really dangerous drug in that way.
02:10:17.540 --> 02:10:22.380
Um, but, uh, so he would send text messages, like he'd just sit there
02:10:22.380 --> 02:10:26.020
and be texting, like, Hey man, you're just like, so cool.
02:10:26.020 --> 02:10:27.140
And like, everything's great.
02:10:27.140 --> 02:10:28.500
And like, this, isn't this awesome?
02:10:28.500 --> 02:10:32.620
Like he's texting me, like we're sitting in the same room or singing karaoke.
02:10:32.620 --> 02:10:37.540
And it's like, I'm getting text messages about how fun this is and how awesome it is.
02:10:37.540 --> 02:10:39.700
And then he started telling me he had to put his phone away because
02:10:39.700 --> 02:10:41.380
he was texting Dick Masterson.
02:10:41.860 --> 02:10:44.460
And when I was on the show, like he pulled up, he's like, holy shit, I do
02:10:44.860 --> 02:10:46.580
have a text message from this guy.
02:10:47.100 --> 02:10:50.860
But, um, yeah, so he, he, he would just sit and text everybody,
02:10:50.860 --> 02:10:51.900
like how much he loves them.
02:10:51.900 --> 02:10:56.820
It's like the, you know, it's like that guy from every sixties movies.
02:10:56.820 --> 02:10:58.380
Like, Oh man, I just love everybody.
02:10:58.380 --> 02:11:01.380
Like that's how he acted, but he wasn't humping.
02:11:01.820 --> 02:11:03.860
So that, I think that's just normal.
02:11:03.860 --> 02:11:07.100
He says, I don't want to touch my damn phone when I'm Molly.
02:11:07.100 --> 02:11:08.060
What is wrong with that weirdo?
02:11:08.340 --> 02:11:13.660
I know looking at it can like your retinas are like, Oh my God, like there's trails
02:11:13.660 --> 02:11:17.180
all over the fucking lights, like, and there's, it's like, when you look at a
02:11:17.180 --> 02:11:20.780
street light through a window that has a smudge on it and it's got that big layer,
02:11:21.100 --> 02:11:26.220
imagine that in rainbow on every light you see, like it, it's cool for, like,
02:11:26.460 --> 02:11:30.020
it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,
02:11:30.020 --> 02:11:33.500
it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,
02:11:33.820 --> 02:11:34.740
20 seconds.
02:11:34.740 --> 02:11:36.460
And then you're like, Oh, this is annoying.
02:11:36.460 --> 02:11:38.700
Like it's, dude, let's get in a darker room immediately.
02:11:40.500 --> 02:11:40.820
Anyway,
02:11:45.020 --> 02:11:47.020
like this to the wall for 20 minutes.
02:11:47.220 --> 02:11:49.580
No, it was not like that.
02:11:49.580 --> 02:11:53.820
It was, there was like one of those outcroppings.
02:11:53.820 --> 02:11:55.300
So I could like hold onto it.
02:11:56.020 --> 02:11:57.060
I was muggling this wall.
02:11:57.460 --> 02:11:58.380
It was great.
02:11:59.260 --> 02:12:00.100
It was great.
02:12:00.900 --> 02:12:02.300
It was a nice Hilton.
02:12:02.860 --> 02:12:04.220
It wasn't a skinny Hilton.
02:12:04.460 --> 02:12:06.060
They had a really good wallpaper.
02:12:06.980 --> 02:12:09.620
Diamond Plus members are crying out loud.
02:12:10.060 --> 02:12:11.700
They called me the next day and said, I'm late.
02:12:11.900 --> 02:12:12.580
It's like, fuck.
02:12:23.460 --> 02:12:26.940
You know, I, it, that looked to me like,
02:12:27.420 --> 02:12:29.940
the clip looked to me like he's using.
02:12:30.020 --> 02:12:31.900
And I'm not going to accuse him of it.
02:12:31.980 --> 02:12:34.660
If he, if he is, I hope he gets it under control.
02:12:36.260 --> 02:12:41.420
But I think his anxiety might be that he's, he is a very controlled guy.
02:12:41.420 --> 02:12:44.700
Like he, no one's able to maintain the veneer as well as him.
02:12:44.700 --> 02:12:46.660
Like that's almost undeniable.
02:12:46.700 --> 02:12:47.700
It's scary.
02:12:48.180 --> 02:12:54.060
And he was like that normally, but things do wear down on him and he does lose it.
02:12:54.060 --> 02:12:58.100
He does crack and like all of the, all of the shit coming down, all the legal shit,
02:12:58.460 --> 02:12:59.980
I wouldn't want to be him at all.
02:13:00.220 --> 02:13:01.820
I didn't, I didn't want to be me.
02:13:01.820 --> 02:13:03.780
I definitely didn't want to, I don't want to be him.
02:13:04.140 --> 02:13:07.660
And having all that crumple, having that hearing go the way it is.
02:13:07.700 --> 02:13:10.900
I mean, that's the type of stuff that will bring you back to things that you
02:13:10.900 --> 02:13:12.420
said you wouldn't do ever again.
02:13:12.940 --> 02:13:13.220
Yeah.
02:13:13.780 --> 02:13:14.180
I doubt.
02:13:15.780 --> 02:13:16.100
Yeah.
02:13:18.540 --> 02:13:22.500
Well, he's also got that golf tournament to, to worry about.
02:13:22.900 --> 02:13:23.100
Yeah.
02:13:23.100 --> 02:13:24.460
I'm sure that stress came out.
02:13:25.020 --> 02:13:28.940
Uh, has, has Milton released the golf video yet?
02:13:29.380 --> 02:13:31.540
Yeah, we were playing, we played it earlier, right before you came on.
02:13:32.380 --> 02:13:36.860
Did he, did he mention the organization of the, uh, did that come through the
02:13:36.860 --> 02:13:38.460
organization of the golf tournament?
02:13:38.460 --> 02:13:42.540
Like how, how the, the work that Aaron has put into it and how the
02:13:42.540 --> 02:13:43.660
golf course is involved?
02:13:45.980 --> 02:13:50.300
Uh, that he had paid for the green, like.
02:13:51.420 --> 02:13:54.420
He pre-paid, he just pre-paid 50 green fees.
02:13:54.580 --> 02:13:55.260
Yes.
02:13:56.140 --> 02:13:59.020
But like, does he have 50 people signed up?
02:13:59.020 --> 02:14:00.460
Like, that's what I'm saying.
02:14:00.460 --> 02:14:01.060
Where does that?
02:14:01.740 --> 02:14:03.820
No, it's like $2,500.
02:14:04.220 --> 02:14:04.700
Yeah.
02:14:05.140 --> 02:14:07.420
It's like just $2,500.
02:14:08.020 --> 02:14:08.420
Boom.
02:14:08.500 --> 02:14:09.020
There you go.
02:14:09.060 --> 02:14:09.500
Okay.
02:14:10.220 --> 02:14:14.340
Uh, how are you organizing this event?
02:14:14.380 --> 02:14:15.460
Like, I don't know.
02:14:15.460 --> 02:14:17.020
And I can't figure it out.
02:14:17.020 --> 02:14:20.940
Like he has to sell so many tickets.
02:14:20.940 --> 02:14:21.140
Yeah.
02:14:21.540 --> 02:14:25.620
And I know people who love to play golf, who no one wants to fucking
02:14:25.620 --> 02:14:28.100
get up and play golf, uh, after a night of drinking.
02:14:28.420 --> 02:14:28.860
No.
02:14:29.060 --> 02:14:33.260
Second, like golf with you're not playing golf with him.
02:14:33.260 --> 02:14:38.020
So you're literally participating in a golf tournament, but it's a golf
02:14:38.020 --> 02:14:41.980
tournament that's organized by someone who's retarded and not by an
02:14:41.980 --> 02:14:44.380
organization that's professional in any way.
02:14:44.740 --> 02:14:48.140
And so what is the appeal of this?
02:14:48.340 --> 02:14:49.580
I can't figure it out.
02:14:49.660 --> 02:14:55.820
And so the, the way I like, cause if, if I'm of a steel toe fan and I get to
02:14:55.820 --> 02:14:59.220
play golf in Aaron's foursome, that's valuable to me, right?
02:14:59.220 --> 02:15:05.380
Like I could see someone spending $250, $300 for like, sells three, three spots
02:15:05.380 --> 02:15:07.500
in a foursome for several hundred bucks each.
02:15:07.860 --> 02:15:08.180
Yeah.
02:15:08.260 --> 02:15:09.860
He'd probably get three people to sign up.
02:15:09.860 --> 02:15:10.460
No problem.
02:15:11.180 --> 02:15:15.060
The other 47 don't make any fucking sense at all.
02:15:15.180 --> 02:15:18.100
And, and I can't figure out who would want to do this, why, why they
02:15:18.100 --> 02:15:19.260
would want to do this in this way.
02:15:19.260 --> 02:15:20.940
It's like, oh, so I'm going to go out.
02:15:21.340 --> 02:15:22.620
I'm going to get my ass up early.
02:15:22.620 --> 02:15:26.460
I'm going to go play in a golf tournament in a shitty golf course, in a shitty town
02:15:27.420 --> 02:15:28.820
that I'm not familiar with.
02:15:28.820 --> 02:15:31.260
And then what I got to pack my clubs.
02:15:31.260 --> 02:15:34.100
I got to, I got to rent my own cart probably like that.
02:15:34.100 --> 02:15:35.460
Cause that's not going to be in there.
02:15:35.500 --> 02:15:36.900
It's just paid the green fees.
02:15:37.580 --> 02:15:39.740
So what is, what is anybody getting out of this?
02:15:39.740 --> 02:15:40.460
I don't know.
02:15:40.820 --> 02:15:43.460
And he has some people sponsoring holes or something, right?
02:15:43.460 --> 02:15:44.740
Where they could put up their little sign.
02:15:44.740 --> 02:15:46.220
How's that going to go over when he.
02:15:46.860 --> 02:15:49.580
I don't know because the owner, like the golf course, people were like, wait,
02:15:49.580 --> 02:15:53.340
what, like, huh, and so what are you going to go put a corporate sponsor sign?
02:15:53.340 --> 02:15:58.380
Like does the golf, the golf course may not want a bar that's
02:15:58.820 --> 02:16:00.740
a competitor to their bar.
02:16:01.300 --> 02:16:01.700
Right.
02:16:02.300 --> 02:16:05.820
I mean, not really like golf bar versus biker bar.
02:16:05.820 --> 02:16:10.180
I get, but, but it is a bar that's in a different, like, so you're advertising
02:16:10.180 --> 02:16:12.900
to go to somewhere else for drinks.
02:16:12.900 --> 02:16:15.220
Like, have you cleared the corporate sponsorships with this?
02:16:15.220 --> 02:16:21.180
Like this isn't, I don't know of any, any like corporate, any organized
02:16:21.180 --> 02:16:25.900
corporation that would go, yeah, we'll just let you put sponsorships up
02:16:25.940 --> 02:16:28.060
wherever you want and we won't review them.
02:16:28.060 --> 02:16:30.100
It's like, what if you, what if it's another golf course?
02:16:30.620 --> 02:16:32.140
I would sponsor all 18 holes.
02:16:32.140 --> 02:16:34.020
If I was the competing golf, right?
02:16:35.020 --> 02:16:39.940
I think he had even said that the, that the sponsors would get like a little sign
02:16:39.940 --> 02:16:42.420
or something that they could put out or whatever at the holes.
02:16:42.500 --> 02:16:46.620
I'm betting you a hundred bucks that he's going to go early, put the signs
02:16:46.620 --> 02:16:49.180
out, then be the last person to golf.
02:16:49.180 --> 02:16:52.820
So once he's finished a hole, he'll pick up the sign and throw it
02:16:52.820 --> 02:16:54.020
in the back of his cart.
02:16:55.540 --> 02:16:55.780
Yeah.
02:16:55.780 --> 02:16:59.900
And the crazy thing is like, as the organizer and the celeb du jour, he
02:16:59.900 --> 02:17:01.500
should be the first person done.
02:17:01.540 --> 02:17:04.020
And he should be waiting at the clubhouse for everybody to come see him
02:17:04.020 --> 02:17:07.980
because you organize an event where you're not present for 90% of it.
02:17:07.980 --> 02:17:09.100
That doesn't make any sense.
02:17:09.940 --> 02:17:12.260
I just, like, I just don't, I don't get the whole thing.
02:17:12.260 --> 02:17:15.540
It would have been funnier if it was like a mini golf thing or something
02:17:15.540 --> 02:17:18.940
where people are around and they could interact the whole time and have a lot of
02:17:18.940 --> 02:17:23.540
fun, I just, but he's, he's got this obsession with like looking manly.
02:17:23.540 --> 02:17:30.780
It's like, well, one, you don't and two, um, just because some men play golf
02:17:30.780 --> 02:17:34.860
doesn't mean that that's manly or that that has anything to do with masculinity
02:17:34.860 --> 02:17:38.620
at all, like there's masculine ways to play golf and then there's how I play golf.
02:17:39.100 --> 02:17:40.700
Which is very not masculine, right?
02:17:40.700 --> 02:17:42.940
Like, so not always there.
02:17:43.460 --> 02:17:48.780
And I don't know why he thinks that, but I'm, I would be, I would almost be
02:17:48.780 --> 02:17:53.180
shocked if, uh, if he didn't have like cigars available for people and stuff
02:17:53.180 --> 02:17:58.020
like that, like stupid, stupid little man things, um, around the court
02:17:58.300 --> 02:17:59.940
or around the course as they go.
02:17:59.940 --> 02:18:02.780
But, but yeah, he's going to run out and just drop these placards
02:18:02.780 --> 02:18:06.220
on 18 different holes because he's like, Oh, we've got corporate sponsors for
02:18:06.260 --> 02:18:06.780
every hole.
02:18:06.780 --> 02:18:08.820
It's like, what's the, what the corporate sponsorship costs?
02:18:08.860 --> 02:18:09.580
30 bucks.
02:18:09.620 --> 02:18:10.660
Like who's going to do this?
02:18:11.860 --> 02:18:12.940
And who wants to advertise?
02:18:13.620 --> 02:18:16.020
How much do you want to pay to advertise to 50 people?
02:18:16.740 --> 02:18:21.980
You're advertising to 50 people at best 50 people.
02:18:22.740 --> 02:18:23.620
It's just like, Oh, what?
02:18:24.140 --> 02:18:27.460
I mean, you're going to charge, you can charge $250 to sponsor a
02:18:27.460 --> 02:18:29.500
hole for 50 people to come.
02:18:29.500 --> 02:18:31.100
Like they're not going to Midland armory.
02:18:31.140 --> 02:18:34.300
They're just not going to go not driving to Foley after the
02:18:35.180 --> 02:18:36.220
golf tournament.
02:18:36.260 --> 02:18:37.060
They're not going to do that.
02:18:37.420 --> 02:18:38.460
They might go have lunch in St.
02:18:38.460 --> 02:18:38.780
Cloud.
02:18:40.740 --> 02:18:42.740
It's just, dude, I don't know.
02:18:43.740 --> 02:18:44.500
That fools me.
02:18:44.780 --> 02:18:48.540
Like I'm, I'm not an advertising or marketing major specialists
02:18:48.540 --> 02:18:49.500
or anything like that.
02:18:49.500 --> 02:18:54.460
I've just learned a lot from doing this and everything, everything
02:18:54.460 --> 02:18:56.260
he does makes no sense.
02:18:58.540 --> 02:18:59.540
But you know, he's right.
02:18:59.540 --> 02:19:02.700
Like salty cracker reminds him of him in his second year broadcasting
02:19:02.860 --> 02:19:07.500
870,000 little, little on, on rumble.
02:19:07.500 --> 02:19:12.140
And by the way, salty's rumble numbers are legit cause you can
02:19:12.140 --> 02:19:14.980
watch the donations come in and they are unreal.
02:19:15.020 --> 02:19:16.900
That guy makes a fucking fortune.
02:19:17.460 --> 02:19:18.940
Um, and he's cool.
02:19:18.940 --> 02:19:20.060
He's super nice.
02:19:20.180 --> 02:19:23.380
He said nice things about me during my downtime and stuff like that.
02:19:23.860 --> 02:19:26.700
Um, I've always wanted to interview with salty.
02:19:26.700 --> 02:19:30.620
I haven't gotten the opportunity, uh, to do so yet, but he was really nice.
02:19:30.740 --> 02:19:32.180
He said nice things when I was down.
02:19:32.180 --> 02:19:33.140
So that was really cool.
02:19:34.020 --> 02:19:36.540
And then, and then he like talks about sniper Wolf.
02:19:36.540 --> 02:19:38.740
It's like, this is a woman with 5 million subscribers.
02:19:38.780 --> 02:19:40.980
You can't tell these people how to do their jobs.
02:19:41.140 --> 02:19:42.900
They're way better than you at it.
02:19:43.820 --> 02:19:46.980
And it's not just cause she's pretty or something, because there's tons
02:19:46.980 --> 02:19:50.140
of pretty women on the internet, like, and they don't have 5 million subscribers.
02:19:51.260 --> 02:19:54.820
Her content, not for me, but her content is for 5 million people.
02:19:54.820 --> 02:19:56.420
Like they're, they're okay with her.
02:19:56.420 --> 02:19:58.580
I think she might be 2 million or something.
02:19:58.580 --> 02:19:59.220
It doesn't matter.
02:19:59.780 --> 02:20:01.020
It's way more than me.
02:20:01.300 --> 02:20:03.260
I wouldn't presume to tell her how to run her business.
02:20:03.700 --> 02:20:07.020
And I wouldn't presume to tell salty how to run his he's better at it than I am.
02:20:07.260 --> 02:20:08.620
And it's very obvious.
02:20:08.620 --> 02:20:11.740
And he's better at it than, than Erin ever will be.
02:20:12.580 --> 02:20:14.380
I was like my second year of broadcasting.
02:20:14.500 --> 02:20:14.980
No, it is.
02:20:17.020 --> 02:20:20.540
He's broadcasting to, uh, hundreds of thousands of people
02:20:20.540 --> 02:20:21.820
and you're broadcasting to nobody.
02:20:23.340 --> 02:20:25.980
Just baffling disconnects with reality.
02:20:25.980 --> 02:20:31.340
I, I still, to this day, like this has been, you know, over a year and I almost
02:20:31.340 --> 02:20:35.780
a year and a half and I still cannot believe, like, I can't believe what I'm seeing.
02:20:35.780 --> 02:20:38.020
It's like, uh, I'm still learning so much.
02:20:39.780 --> 02:20:40.620
It's wild.
02:20:41.020 --> 02:20:41.980
It really is wild.
02:20:41.980 --> 02:20:46.220
It's something that I've never seen or experienced in my entire life.
02:20:46.220 --> 02:20:50.860
Like when, when we first, um, started talking about Erin and really like just
02:20:50.860 --> 02:20:55.820
kind of covering different things with him aside from you, I would tell
02:20:55.820 --> 02:21:01.020
Haley all the time, I was like, I feel like I'm being gaslit all the time.
02:21:01.460 --> 02:21:04.980
And it's just weird because I don't know, cause I don't know him.
02:21:06.180 --> 02:21:10.700
And I, I didn't watch his show regularly or anything like that.
02:21:10.700 --> 02:21:13.940
So it's like, you're always feel like, is he really telling the truth?
02:21:13.940 --> 02:21:17.940
And then like two seconds later, you're like, uh, no, that didn't happen.
02:21:17.940 --> 02:21:19.300
What are you talking about?
02:21:19.980 --> 02:21:24.380
And the weird thing is he's so, he's so effectively blends
02:21:24.700 --> 02:21:27.060
incompetence and malicious deception.
02:21:28.620 --> 02:21:34.420
Like he doesn't know anything about any subject.
02:21:35.220 --> 02:21:36.620
It's amazing.
02:21:36.780 --> 02:21:42.260
Watch like, and you'd think by human is two year degree in broadcasting
02:21:42.260 --> 02:21:45.980
technology, which is such a useful degree.
02:21:46.260 --> 02:21:51.100
Um, because broadcasting tech really requires expertise now, like, because
02:21:51.100 --> 02:21:52.380
you can't do it from an iPhone.
02:21:52.980 --> 02:21:57.140
Um, but so he has his broadcast tech degree, but even that stuff, he gets
02:21:57.340 --> 02:22:02.540
remarkably wrong, but every subject, every single one, without exception, I
02:22:02.540 --> 02:22:05.620
have not found a subject where I've sat there and listened to the show and gone,
02:22:06.220 --> 02:22:07.100
you know, that's a valid point.
02:22:07.100 --> 02:22:07.980
Like that makes sense.
02:22:08.260 --> 02:22:12.220
Everything is basic facts, wrong, uh, concepts, wrong themes, wrong.
02:22:12.300 --> 02:22:17.460
He's a, he's a history guy, but he gets history like absurdly wrong.
02:22:17.500 --> 02:22:22.980
It's like, how, how these subjects and like, I know so much more about them.
02:22:22.980 --> 02:22:24.580
How do you not know anything?
02:22:24.900 --> 02:22:27.780
How do you know nothing about a single subject?
02:22:27.780 --> 02:22:32.100
That's what I can't figure out because I don't know anyone who's walked through
02:22:32.100 --> 02:22:34.660
so much life without learning a goddamn thing.
02:22:36.900 --> 02:22:41.020
Just even just like listening some to some of his takes on, um,
02:22:41.980 --> 02:22:44.460
Like the stories and stuff that are out there too.
02:22:44.460 --> 02:22:45.860
It's just like, no.
02:22:46.300 --> 02:22:49.660
And that's something that Haley and I had talked about before is like, when it
02:22:49.660 --> 02:22:54.020
comes to even some of the subject matter that he does cover, it's like, all you
02:22:54.020 --> 02:22:58.820
have to do is like scratch the surface a little bit more to give your audience
02:22:58.820 --> 02:23:03.340
something different or something that they're not just get like headlines.
02:23:03.340 --> 02:23:04.860
Like they don't need just the headlines.
02:23:04.860 --> 02:23:08.020
Like something, you know,
02:23:08.660 --> 02:23:14.140
his show prep when, when we were hanging out was just April basically going to,
02:23:14.500 --> 02:23:19.700
uh, not the B and grabbing stories, you know, and just putting them in a word
02:23:19.700 --> 02:23:24.100
document or whatever forum to pull up and just kind of go through, but yeah,
Now you don't always say it in like precise legal terms, unless you're
01:48:52.220 --> 01:48:57.100
like a lawyer, like I am, and then you say it, like you say, I had cocaine.
01:48:57.140 --> 01:48:58.060
It was just mine.
01:49:01.260 --> 01:49:02.900
And, uh, and that's, that's what you leave it at.
01:49:03.220 --> 01:49:08.980
But, um, but yeah, so a lot of people, you know, since they're not lawyers,
01:49:08.980 --> 01:49:10.660
they answer more colloquially.
01:49:11.140 --> 01:49:15.820
And, uh, so I'm, I'm just curious what he said, uh, because now I need
01:49:15.820 --> 01:49:16.980
to see the plea petition.
01:49:16.980 --> 01:49:19.260
I didn't really before, but now I do.
01:49:19.420 --> 01:49:21.220
Um, is that something you can get?
01:49:21.260 --> 01:49:23.900
Is that something you can walk in and get from the portal?
01:49:24.660 --> 01:49:26.180
I know.
01:49:26.420 --> 01:49:31.780
Um, no, I don't believe we can access it from the portal, although I'm going to go
01:49:31.780 --> 01:49:37.620
try, um, most of the, most of the documents are confidential even for us.
01:49:37.700 --> 01:49:43.620
And it might take, so I think the rule is it will remain confidential and then
01:49:43.620 --> 01:49:46.860
it'll move to non-public after 90 days.
01:49:46.860 --> 01:49:49.340
We were going through that, uh, data practices act.
01:49:49.820 --> 01:49:57.660
And so, um, the close of the investigation is when the case is over and the appeal
01:49:57.660 --> 01:50:01.140
window has expired, um, or the appeal is, is completed.
01:50:01.180 --> 01:50:10.020
So, uh, the, the criminal investigation into him will end, uh, 21 days after his
01:50:10.020 --> 01:50:19.100
sentencing and then, uh, you can't, um, it's 90 days after that, I think that
01:50:19.100 --> 01:50:20.700
there's, there's some 90 day thing.
01:50:20.700 --> 01:50:25.380
I can't remember specifically, but, uh, but yeah, so it will probably take a
01:50:25.380 --> 01:50:29.940
while, but at some point, yes, um, we'll, we'll have to get it.
01:50:30.340 --> 01:50:33.580
I think it's silly because I think Kayla should be able to get it immediately.
01:50:33.580 --> 01:50:34.420
She's the victim.
01:50:34.660 --> 01:50:37.380
Um, I think she should have access to all the documents, but she doesn't.
01:50:37.420 --> 01:50:42.220
We're, we're actually as in the dark as, um, as everybody on just about
01:50:42.220 --> 01:50:46.540
everything, you know, except for stuff that like we submitted, right?
01:50:47.500 --> 01:50:47.980
So, right.
01:50:48.460 --> 01:50:54.500
Well, could you use his admissions literally like two hours after his plea,
01:50:54.900 --> 01:50:59.580
his plea hearing if, um, well, yeah, it just depends on if I can get the
01:50:59.580 --> 01:51:04.380
admissions, uh, but the sentencing sentencing will nail it anyway, because
01:51:04.780 --> 01:51:08.140
once he's, once he's sentenced, then he's adjudicated guilty.
01:51:08.420 --> 01:51:10.340
He is under the law.
01:51:10.540 --> 01:51:13.260
It's beyond a reasonable doubt and it has to cover every element.
01:51:13.420 --> 01:51:17.580
The statements help and the statements, you know, they, they may help in
01:51:17.580 --> 01:51:22.340
something like determining damages because the civil statute doesn't have
01:51:22.340 --> 01:51:27.740
the intent element to make it a felony intent would be considered in damages.
01:51:27.940 --> 01:51:28.140
Right.
01:51:28.140 --> 01:51:32.500
Like if you're intending to harass someone versus negligently, like accidentally
01:51:32.500 --> 01:51:35.540
sending a picture, you know, that, that would matter a lot in a civil suit.
01:51:36.060 --> 01:51:41.580
Um, but, uh, but it's not in the, uh, it's not in the statute specifically.
01:51:41.700 --> 01:51:44.860
So, you know, depending on what he said in court, but he's already said it
01:51:44.860 --> 01:51:48.180
was bully shit on his show, whoops.
01:51:48.820 --> 01:51:50.580
You really shouldn't have talked.
01:51:50.900 --> 01:51:56.860
Like if they pull his plea right now, if they pull his plea, he has admitted to
01:51:56.860 --> 01:52:01.020
the crime, he's admitted to the felony level of the crime, um, he's gloated
01:52:01.020 --> 01:52:05.660
about it and if they wanted to, they could, they can try him and bury him.
01:52:05.780 --> 01:52:08.140
I mean, how, what would, what would he say?
01:52:08.180 --> 01:52:09.460
Like, I didn't mean it.
01:52:10.060 --> 01:52:12.500
Like you, one, you've admitted to all this stuff.
01:52:12.700 --> 01:52:16.820
Now you're admitting in your apology tour that it was, uh, that you did
01:52:16.820 --> 01:52:21.820
it for bullying purposes, like you're done game over and, um, he's in,
01:52:21.860 --> 01:52:26.460
he's in so much trouble and, uh, people are speculating that Todd Peterson
01:52:26.460 --> 01:52:31.420
might, or he and Todd might be pulling the plea, but I think they're actually
01:52:31.420 --> 01:52:36.140
more worried about the plea being, uh, blown up by the judge.
01:52:36.540 --> 01:52:40.900
I do think that, um, there's a strong indication that the judge was ready
01:52:40.900 --> 01:52:44.660
to reject the plea hearing or the plea agreement.
01:52:45.180 --> 01:52:50.180
And, um, uh, I think someone was talking about it.
01:52:50.660 --> 01:52:56.380
Um, there's maybe it might've been girl Friday, but someone was talking
01:52:56.380 --> 01:53:01.100
about the fact that he didn't take sentencing at the time is actually
01:53:01.100 --> 01:53:06.340
probably a bad move because the judge probably would have sentenced him
01:53:06.460 --> 01:53:08.220
harshly under the plea agreement.
01:53:08.500 --> 01:53:14.260
Um, because she couldn't blow up the plea agreement and then sentence him
01:53:14.460 --> 01:53:15.660
like that, that wouldn't work.
01:53:16.140 --> 01:53:19.380
So she, if she blew up the plea agreement, you'd have to go to trial.
01:53:19.500 --> 01:53:21.660
Well, she gave him the option to take sentencing that day.
01:53:21.780 --> 01:53:23.060
He didn't take it that day.
01:53:23.220 --> 01:53:26.860
Now he has three months and the judge could reject the plea deal in that time.
01:53:27.380 --> 01:53:32.300
And if the judge rejects the plea deal, he's, he's looking at, I, and, and I
01:53:32.300 --> 01:53:35.500
think this might be happening behind the scenes, they might be having to
01:53:35.500 --> 01:53:37.580
renegotiate that plea at a felony level.
01:53:37.580 --> 01:53:41.020
Cause there's no way the prosecutor lets it go after like, after the
01:53:41.020 --> 01:53:42.940
violations and stuff like that there.
01:53:44.020 --> 01:53:44.700
And, uh,
01:53:45.900 --> 01:53:47.980
the language in the transcripts.
01:53:48.100 --> 01:53:52.500
I mean, for us who weren't in the room, I mean, the judge, how
01:53:52.500 --> 01:53:57.020
many times she said, sir, that was one, I was like, oh boy, she's pissed.
01:54:00.500 --> 01:54:02.220
The court is not amused.
01:54:02.220 --> 01:54:05.460
I was like, you never want to start with that.
01:54:06.180 --> 01:54:07.020
Oh my God.
01:54:09.380 --> 01:54:13.540
That means, so what, what I found that to be interesting was, so there's,
01:54:13.620 --> 01:54:18.340
there's all the clips of, uh, him violating, but the judge is taking
01:54:18.340 --> 01:54:22.300
particular note of the smug attitude.
01:54:22.700 --> 01:54:26.780
And the, the Cavalier, the Cavalier approach that he had to it.
01:54:27.220 --> 01:54:29.580
And when the court, you might be amused.
01:54:29.580 --> 01:54:30.420
You think this is funny.
01:54:30.420 --> 01:54:31.700
The court doesn't find this funny.
01:54:31.860 --> 01:54:33.620
Like that's, that's what was being said.
01:54:33.620 --> 01:54:35.820
It's not just like, well, the court's mad at you.
01:54:35.980 --> 01:54:38.860
Like to me anyway, that's, that's what I was getting out of that.
01:54:38.860 --> 01:54:40.580
But man, what a mess.
01:54:41.060 --> 01:54:46.060
But I, I think, I think it's possible that they are negotiating
01:54:46.060 --> 01:54:47.740
a new plea agreement right now.
01:54:47.780 --> 01:54:52.740
And, and the thing is like, you're going to go to trial because, uh, nobody's
01:54:52.740 --> 01:54:55.220
happy about this unless you negotiate it back.
01:54:55.300 --> 01:54:58.660
And I think if he gets back to a gross misdemeanor, if they preserve that
01:54:58.660 --> 01:55:03.580
aspect of it, he's going to have significant jail time, like 30, 60 or 90
01:55:03.580 --> 01:55:08.980
days jail, um, and, and he's not going to get a state, he already didn't
01:55:08.980 --> 01:55:10.100
have a state of adjudication.
01:55:10.100 --> 01:55:13.100
So you have to look at this thing and go, this deal gets worse.
01:55:13.220 --> 01:55:14.420
It doesn't get better.
01:55:14.500 --> 01:55:15.540
It only gets worse.
01:55:15.620 --> 01:55:19.020
So you're, if you're keeping gross miss, you're going to get jail time.
01:55:19.500 --> 01:55:24.340
The only way to avoid jail time, maybe is to get the felony and, uh, with no
01:55:24.340 --> 01:55:29.700
state of adjudication and having a felony on your record forever, you don't want
01:55:29.700 --> 01:55:30.380
that at all.
01:55:30.380 --> 01:55:32.820
It makes life really, really irritating.
01:55:34.380 --> 01:55:34.980
Dude.
01:55:36.260 --> 01:55:40.660
So I think he's in a lot of trouble, um, behind the scenes.
01:55:40.740 --> 01:55:44.580
And I think maybe Todd Peterson just took a baseball bat to his testicles
01:55:44.580 --> 01:55:45.260
over and over.
01:55:45.260 --> 01:55:46.620
Like, what the fuck were you doing?
01:55:46.980 --> 01:55:50.660
Cause I, this is, this is a flat fee attorney, right?
01:55:50.700 --> 01:55:52.580
Aaron paid him eight grand.
01:55:52.820 --> 01:55:55.140
I'm like, like he said, make grand on the credit card.
01:55:55.140 --> 01:55:55.820
No big deal.
01:55:57.220 --> 01:55:59.780
As if, as if anybody just walks around and is like, yeah, eight grand.
01:55:59.780 --> 01:56:00.260
Who cares?
01:56:00.540 --> 01:56:01.380
Like everybody cares.
01:56:01.420 --> 01:56:03.100
Even rich people care about eight grand.
01:56:03.580 --> 01:56:10.700
But, um, but so this guy's flat fee, his job is to get a plea and to get it in
01:56:10.700 --> 01:56:12.780
the least amount of hours worked possible.
01:56:13.380 --> 01:56:13.740
Yeah.
01:56:14.700 --> 01:56:21.660
This guy's, this guy's client goes online, blows everything up, makes every
01:56:21.660 --> 01:56:27.540
admission possible and might lose the ability to plea in the first place.
01:56:27.900 --> 01:56:33.980
So now he's looking at trial prep and he's got to catch up on the online
01:56:33.980 --> 01:56:39.820
activities that I don't think he was even aware of, which means, look, I mean,
01:56:39.820 --> 01:56:45.260
the documents that I sent in were fairly thorough, but they will pale in comparison
01:56:45.260 --> 01:56:50.780
to a thousand emails and who knows, like, who knows how many they actually got.
01:56:50.820 --> 01:56:54.940
But if you, if this guy is having to read, let's say he reads a hundred emails,
01:56:55.060 --> 01:57:00.060
you know, he's going to bill a 10th of an hour per email minimum.
01:57:00.500 --> 01:57:02.620
And that, that's just to open them up.
01:57:02.700 --> 01:57:04.020
He's going to bill a 10th of an hour.
01:57:04.580 --> 01:57:08.500
If he starts billing hourly, he's not going to flat fee through a trial.
01:57:09.420 --> 01:57:11.940
I guarantee you as close as possible.
01:57:11.940 --> 01:57:15.740
His retainer agreement says on, you know, condition of a plea agreement
01:57:16.100 --> 01:57:17.500
and it's a conditional retainer.
01:57:17.500 --> 01:57:21.220
So if you want to go to trial, there's going to be an additional discussion
01:57:21.260 --> 01:57:25.820
about a retainer and probably an hourly rate, because there's just no way he can't.
01:57:26.300 --> 01:57:28.820
It would cost $8,000 for him to sit through a trial.
01:57:30.020 --> 01:57:31.780
He'd lose all of the retainer money.
01:57:31.780 --> 01:57:36.820
So if they're having that discussion, someone's going to be sweating bullets.
01:57:36.940 --> 01:57:40.620
And I think, again, I think that might be why there's no, um,
01:57:40.700 --> 01:57:42.820
that he filed this one, uh, on his own.
01:57:43.020 --> 01:57:44.020
He didn't use a lawyer.
01:57:44.780 --> 01:57:45.020
Yeah.
01:57:45.020 --> 01:57:45.780
I think so too.
01:57:45.820 --> 01:57:46.860
Time to raise the goal.
01:57:46.900 --> 01:57:47.580
Everybody.
01:57:48.780 --> 01:57:53.100
As I saw on the Reddit, someone was like gold days, 3,447.
01:57:57.900 --> 01:57:58.780
Something's sweating him.
01:57:58.780 --> 01:58:00.220
He's got bubbly guts lately.
01:58:00.220 --> 01:58:00.700
So
01:58:01.700 --> 01:58:06.940
his weird, like, uh, his weird erection poop was strange, right?
01:58:06.940 --> 01:58:13.660
Like that was a, that was a weird conversation that he came back from pooping
01:58:13.660 --> 01:58:17.380
and just started talking about, like having an erection while pooping, like very weird.
01:58:19.900 --> 01:58:23.260
I know it's getting so gross.
01:58:24.580 --> 01:58:25.500
It's odd.
01:58:26.540 --> 01:58:27.060
Okay.
01:58:27.820 --> 01:58:28.340
Hold on.
01:58:28.380 --> 01:58:29.140
I've got a clip.
01:58:29.980 --> 01:58:31.780
You've got a clip, oh boy.
01:58:32.100 --> 01:58:33.300
I just remembered this.
01:58:35.420 --> 01:58:37.340
Uh, where is it?
01:58:39.060 --> 01:58:39.860
Play a clip.
01:58:40.340 --> 01:58:41.500
Play the clip.
01:58:42.660 --> 01:58:43.020
Yeah.
01:58:43.020 --> 01:58:46.980
It's gotten really, while you're looking at it, like I would list, I was telling
01:58:46.980 --> 01:58:52.180
Haley earlier, I listened to about 30 minutes of his Thursday show while I was
01:58:52.180 --> 01:58:53.900
making breakfast and I had turned it off.
01:58:53.900 --> 01:58:56.780
I was like, it is eight in the morning, sir.
01:58:56.900 --> 01:58:59.140
I do not want to be hearing about this shit.
01:59:00.660 --> 01:59:01.020
Yeah.
01:59:01.020 --> 01:59:05.380
It's like, oh, I have coffee with my discussion of anal sex.
01:59:05.380 --> 01:59:05.940
That'd be great.
01:59:06.180 --> 01:59:06.740
Yeah.
01:59:06.740 --> 01:59:10.060
It's like, um, here we go.
01:59:11.500 --> 01:59:12.100
Here we go.
01:59:12.100 --> 01:59:12.580
Okay.
01:59:13.100 --> 01:59:17.940
So this is, uh, this is just a two minute clip.
01:59:18.620 --> 01:59:24.380
Now look, I'm an expert on this subject.
01:59:24.420 --> 01:59:25.980
You'll understand very quickly.
01:59:26.940 --> 01:59:29.580
Uh, let me share this.
01:59:32.500 --> 01:59:33.060
Almost there.
01:59:33.220 --> 01:59:33.740
My bad.
01:59:34.660 --> 01:59:35.020
Terrible.
01:59:35.020 --> 01:59:35.300
It is.
01:59:41.580 --> 01:59:41.900
Okay.
01:59:44.940 --> 01:59:45.900
This is from the Reddit.
01:59:46.260 --> 01:59:46.860
This is from the Reddit.
01:59:46.860 --> 01:59:48.820
Hopefully, uh, all the volume works.
01:59:48.820 --> 01:59:49.220
Let me know.
01:59:50.540 --> 01:59:50.940
Yes.
01:59:51.900 --> 01:59:52.180
Okay.
01:59:52.540 --> 01:59:53.300
I'm going to mute it.
01:59:53.660 --> 01:59:55.660
I'm going to mute the, okay.
01:59:56.300 --> 01:59:57.820
I'm going to mute the copyrighted audio.
01:59:58.020 --> 01:59:58.340
Thank you.
01:59:58.340 --> 01:59:58.980
Appreciate that.
01:59:59.940 --> 02:00:00.420
No problem.
02:00:00.420 --> 02:00:04.740
He left this up while he was poop pooping.
02:00:05.180 --> 02:00:07.580
Well, no, no, that's not what he was doing this time.
02:00:08.100 --> 02:00:13.660
Oh, there's you and him together in the little thumbnail.
02:00:14.020 --> 02:00:14.500
Lovely.
02:00:14.500 --> 02:00:15.740
That's, that's precious.
02:00:16.460 --> 02:00:16.700
Okay.
02:00:16.700 --> 02:00:18.580
So he's, he's coming back now.
02:00:18.980 --> 02:00:25.020
I just, I want you to watch him, watch him as he's just come
02:00:25.020 --> 02:00:28.460
back from his third break of the hour.
02:00:29.500 --> 02:00:32.660
Watch his energy and watch what he watches face.
02:00:33.940 --> 02:00:35.060
Oh my.
02:00:37.140 --> 02:00:40.220
And I looked exactly like this.
02:00:42.340 --> 02:00:43.980
I apologize.
02:00:45.220 --> 02:00:47.340
Did I not make it back in time?
02:00:48.780 --> 02:00:49.620
I've given the speech.
02:00:49.700 --> 02:00:50.900
Oh, my bad.
02:00:50.940 --> 02:00:52.060
We'll get back to it.
02:00:52.660 --> 02:00:54.540
I've given this exact speech coming back from.
02:00:54.620 --> 02:00:56.820
Oh, people saying dead air, dead air.
02:00:56.820 --> 02:00:59.820
They're saying, oh no, they're saying he's Hassan pikering it.
02:00:59.860 --> 02:01:00.460
I am.
02:01:00.500 --> 02:01:02.900
I'm Hassanning it, but I'm sorry.
02:01:02.900 --> 02:01:05.020
My stomach is not good.
02:01:05.220 --> 02:01:06.740
At least stomach, you know, is it Sharon?
02:01:06.780 --> 02:01:10.820
I'm just, um, I'm Aaron out, I guess.
02:01:10.860 --> 02:01:11.420
Watch this.
02:01:11.420 --> 02:01:13.020
Doggo doesn't die with 20 bucks.
02:01:13.020 --> 02:01:14.540
You know, just for you, buddy.
02:01:14.540 --> 02:01:15.220
Thank you.
02:01:15.340 --> 02:01:15.620
Good.
02:01:15.620 --> 02:01:16.500
Wash my hands.
02:01:16.580 --> 02:01:19.540
Very wash your hands, but just wash your nose off.
02:01:20.180 --> 02:01:24.460
Yeah, I'm just, I'm not my, my stomach is not doing
02:01:24.460 --> 02:01:25.100
great.
02:01:25.140 --> 02:01:27.620
I know at the moment, I'm sorry.
02:01:27.660 --> 02:01:30.780
Certain things that doggo doesn't die.
02:01:31.820 --> 02:01:32.180
Hold on.
02:01:32.180 --> 02:01:36.580
He's now at one 26 for today.
02:01:36.580 --> 02:01:40.780
Zen man is now in second at one 16.
02:01:41.740 --> 02:01:45.300
And then you got Steven and Miss Tay at third and fourth.
02:01:46.020 --> 02:01:47.700
There's more to this clip, but trust me.
02:01:47.700 --> 02:01:48.340
Effectively.
02:01:48.380 --> 02:01:48.580
Yeah.
02:01:48.580 --> 02:01:50.140
I'm sorry about the dead air guys.
02:01:50.140 --> 02:01:51.700
Incredibly unprofessional.
02:01:51.700 --> 02:01:52.740
Another nose grab.
02:01:52.780 --> 02:01:53.540
My bad.
02:01:55.460 --> 02:01:58.580
We didn't eat the whole pizza.
02:01:58.580 --> 02:02:03.820
I had two slices of the pizza and that would end.
02:02:03.820 --> 02:02:08.420
Um, I only wash my hands when I get shit on them.
02:02:08.420 --> 02:02:09.780
Says roots itchy.
02:02:09.780 --> 02:02:10.180
Isn't it?
02:02:10.180 --> 02:02:11.220
And that was itchy.
02:02:13.620 --> 02:02:15.980
Oh, my stomach hurts.
02:02:16.180 --> 02:02:18.700
We actually, I feel better now.
02:02:19.260 --> 02:02:21.300
Do you remember Haley?
02:02:21.340 --> 02:02:26.340
It was like last show or like a few shows ago where we were like, how
02:02:26.340 --> 02:02:28.580
many times has this dude touched his nose?
02:02:29.900 --> 02:02:30.900
He comes back.
02:02:31.220 --> 02:02:36.540
I, so I have, so I saw that and it was, I hate saying this, but it was like
02:02:36.540 --> 02:02:41.980
looking in a mirror of when I was using and would leave the stream and come back.
02:02:42.220 --> 02:02:46.860
He came back with energy, came back so smug, like, Oh, was I gone so long?
02:02:47.660 --> 02:02:49.900
Little, little giggle, like right to himself.
02:02:50.180 --> 02:02:55.500
He's immediately grabbing his red nose, uh, three times in two minutes.
02:02:55.660 --> 02:02:57.140
That's not an edited clip.
02:02:58.060 --> 02:03:00.660
I've been suspecting for a while.
02:03:00.700 --> 02:03:07.220
Like I, I think, man, I've, I've thought he's been using for some time now.
02:03:07.860 --> 02:03:09.580
It's, it was very similar.
02:03:10.020 --> 02:03:11.660
The weight loss is the only thing missing.
02:03:11.660 --> 02:03:13.340
You know, like, look at those shins.
02:03:13.340 --> 02:03:14.140
Holy shit.
02:03:14.820 --> 02:03:15.620
That's fair enough.
02:03:16.300 --> 02:03:23.900
That was, that was really similar to the, him trying to do his impression
02:03:23.940 --> 02:03:26.500
of you coming back with it on your nose.
02:03:26.900 --> 02:03:27.140
Yeah.
02:03:27.140 --> 02:03:28.860
I bet it put him side by side.
02:03:28.860 --> 02:03:31.940
It was actually quite similar because I was watching his eyes and the way that
02:03:31.940 --> 02:03:35.980
he came in from the mic when he sat down, the one where he had like the, the, I
02:03:35.980 --> 02:03:38.820
don't know what it was powder or something like all up under on his lip.
02:03:39.460 --> 02:03:39.700
Yeah.
02:03:39.740 --> 02:03:41.780
It looked very, very similar to that.
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Uh, no, we've been saying the same thing.
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With the nose scratching and the energy and the not sleeping and, uh, tell
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me bubble guts.
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It's, um, it's, it's weird.
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I look, I, I would not accuse him of using as much as I was or anything like that.
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It's just, he's been talking about having, yeah, low energy on the show.
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And then he's coming back from, he's going to a lot of bathroom breaks
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lately and he keeps blaming his stomach.
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He's gone for a little bit, like a little bit of a long time each time.
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Um, this is when he was gone for, you know, through a whole song.
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Um, and then a little bit, there's some dead air afterwards, uh, probably
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about 20 seconds, but, um, so his bathroom is, uh, 12 feet away.
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Like he is, does not have to go anywhere to go to the bathroom.
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He just gets up and he's right there.
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It's, it's nowhere, there's no distance between this wall and the bathroom.
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Um, so that's not, uh, if he's gone for any period of time, he's doing something
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else and there's myriad other things you could be doing when you're gone.
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Like, of course these, like that, I saw that and I was like, that looked
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exactly like me, that looked exactly like how I would come back.
02:05:02.700 --> 02:05:03.860
I would giggle to myself.
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I think it was so funny that I would go off and I would do, you know,
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I would do whatever drugs.
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Or whatever, and I would come back and, um, you don't really notice that
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you're touching your nose so much.
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And things are, you know, they, it's just like, oh yeah, well, my nose itches.
02:05:18.340 --> 02:05:19.060
Of course it does.
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Like, well, yes, it's hollow on the inside.
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No, you were, you were fooling no one.
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Unfortunately, I wasn't, I wasn't really trying to fool anyone.
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I was mostly, I didn't want a clip of me saying I'm doing cocaine.
02:05:31.300 --> 02:05:38.620
Like for sure, but, but, uh, it gives you unlimited levels of confidence.
02:05:38.620 --> 02:05:41.580
So you just don't, you know, you don't worry about people.
02:05:41.820 --> 02:05:43.140
I didn't worry about people knowing.
02:05:43.140 --> 02:05:46.340
I didn't give a shit if people knew at all in reality.
02:05:46.740 --> 02:05:51.740
Um, I just couldn't have the clip, uh, online, but if, if you knew me in person,
02:05:51.740 --> 02:05:52.780
I'd probably tell you about it.
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Right.
02:05:53.460 --> 02:05:54.180
Like at the time.
02:05:54.780 --> 02:05:58.660
And so, um, but yeah, the way he came back, I was like, that looked just like me.
02:05:58.660 --> 02:05:59.860
That was, that was creepy.
02:05:59.900 --> 02:06:02.500
Like that was unfucking settling to me.
02:06:02.580 --> 02:06:04.740
He has been going to the bathroom a lot lately.
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And I'm talking about even weeks back.
02:06:06.740 --> 02:06:10.740
I can remember him going to the bathroom like three or four times within a morning
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show, and that's not like him, you know, maybe once, maybe.
02:06:15.700 --> 02:06:18.580
It could be just wild anxiety.
02:06:18.980 --> 02:06:24.220
And I think, I think he's got, he's got tremendous levels of anxiety that he is
02:06:24.220 --> 02:06:28.660
trying to just, uh, you know, like he's got like the cannon plunger, like get
02:06:28.660 --> 02:06:36.460
down in there, like he is, um, his reality does is starting to crash down on all of
02:06:36.460 --> 02:06:41.140
these things and, um, and I think that that's bothering him and clearly with
02:06:41.140 --> 02:06:45.860
the stomach, but you know, uh, if you're just, if you're just doing coke and
02:06:45.860 --> 02:06:50.700
you're not eating well, um, you're, you get bubbly tummy too, like you have to
02:06:50.700 --> 02:06:54.700
make sure that you eat, you have to make sure you like eat and take the right
02:06:54.700 --> 02:06:56.820
vitamins when you're doing these substances.
02:06:56.860 --> 02:06:59.260
And he never listened to me when I explained what they were.
02:07:02.780 --> 02:07:04.340
It was like he, he never listened.
02:07:04.380 --> 02:07:07.900
And I don't know, I, I, I'm not at a place where I would definitely
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accuse him, but that looked real familiar.
02:07:10.420 --> 02:07:14.300
And he has, he has been increasing those bathroom trips.
02:07:14.380 --> 02:07:15.980
And I, I called it out months ago.
02:07:15.980 --> 02:07:19.100
I'm like, I think this guy's, I think he's back on, uh, I
02:07:19.100 --> 02:07:20.220
think he's back on something.
02:07:20.340 --> 02:07:22.020
It might not even be, it might not be Coke.
02:07:22.020 --> 02:07:22.700
It might be Molly.
02:07:23.180 --> 02:07:25.540
He liked Molly, um, so much.
02:07:26.700 --> 02:07:29.740
Uh, and Molly probably six times.
02:07:29.940 --> 02:07:30.460
Oh, really?
02:07:31.420 --> 02:07:34.420
Did you, did you hear the other clip?
02:07:35.220 --> 02:07:37.900
Did you hear the other clip that I think was from this show where he was talking
02:07:37.900 --> 02:07:42.900
about not being able to stop humping on SP fucking weird.
02:07:43.300 --> 02:07:43.620
Yeah.
02:07:43.620 --> 02:07:45.220
I'm just saying, you just say that about Molly.
02:07:45.220 --> 02:07:45.980
I've never done Molly.
02:07:45.980 --> 02:07:46.460
So I don't know.
02:07:46.460 --> 02:07:48.220
But from what I hear, you get all horny and shit.
02:07:48.220 --> 02:07:53.260
So I'm just wondering if maybe it's not a horny is not the right word from, I
02:07:53.260 --> 02:08:00.420
mean, you can, and, uh, being horny and sex on Molly is like the great
02:08:00.420 --> 02:08:02.460
greatest thing you can figure out.
02:08:02.460 --> 02:08:04.340
Like it's, it's hard to describe.
02:08:04.820 --> 02:08:05.140
Okay.
02:08:06.660 --> 02:08:07.660
That's why I wonder.
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Yeah.
02:08:08.380 --> 02:08:13.900
Uh, but the way you tend to act and the way he acted is, um, Oh, I can't say
02:08:13.900 --> 02:08:19.460
that word on your show, like a giant, um, well, like a giant gay slur or whatever.
02:08:20.020 --> 02:08:24.380
But, uh, if you see, if you see like a sweater, you're, you're going to touch
02:08:24.380 --> 02:08:27.860
it and it'd like, no, it doesn't matter who's wearing it or whatever.
02:08:27.860 --> 02:08:28.900
You're going to touch that sweater.
02:08:28.900 --> 02:08:30.380
Cause that sweater looks great.
02:08:30.420 --> 02:08:32.260
Like it looks like it feels really good.
02:08:32.820 --> 02:08:34.540
And it's not, it's not second.
02:08:34.540 --> 02:08:37.500
It's not like you're trying to grope the person that's just, that sweater
02:08:37.500 --> 02:08:38.980
looks so fucking touchable.
02:08:41.220 --> 02:08:42.020
Are there bristles?
02:08:42.020 --> 02:08:42.620
Is it wool?
02:08:42.620 --> 02:08:43.500
Like, what is it?
02:08:43.860 --> 02:08:47.220
And when you touch it, it's electric, it's electricity going through your
02:08:47.220 --> 02:08:49.380
hands and straight to your brain.
02:08:49.420 --> 02:08:54.620
And it, your brain is tricked because all of the serotonin that's been stored
02:08:54.620 --> 02:08:56.180
up in it is dumped into it.
02:08:56.500 --> 02:09:00.220
So everything you do feels like your greatest achievement ever.
02:09:00.340 --> 02:09:03.220
Like in everything you touch feels like the greatest thing you've ever touched.
02:09:03.820 --> 02:09:08.220
Like when I did it the first time, I literally just sat and like,
02:09:09.300 --> 02:09:12.340
humping isn't the right word, but I just sat and rubbed the wallpaper
02:09:12.340 --> 02:09:14.260
in the hotel room because it was textured.
02:09:14.460 --> 02:09:16.420
And I just sat and rubbed it for like 20 minutes.
02:09:16.420 --> 02:09:20.500
I'm like, Oh my God, like where do I buy this wallpaper?
02:09:21.340 --> 02:09:27.380
It's ridiculous, but there's, there's, he would be very touchy.
02:09:27.380 --> 02:09:30.820
So when he told the humping story and like how he's just uncontrollable, I'm
02:09:30.820 --> 02:09:35.020
like, I mean, I guess, but he, he wasn't like that on Molly.
02:09:35.180 --> 02:09:36.700
Like he wasn't humping people.
02:09:36.740 --> 02:09:40.420
He was just, there's just insufferably gay.
02:09:41.260 --> 02:09:45.140
Like, like you would send, he sent you.
02:09:45.140 --> 02:09:46.980
Your pants feel so great right now.
02:09:47.980 --> 02:09:51.420
Hey, listen, if I'm on Molly, it's fine.
02:09:51.420 --> 02:09:53.340
Everybody can touch him.
02:09:53.700 --> 02:09:54.220
It's okay.
02:09:55.100 --> 02:09:55.740
That's what it makes you.
02:09:55.740 --> 02:09:59.700
It also, the other, the other thing it does chemically is it releases
02:09:59.700 --> 02:10:02.260
oxytocin, which is a love hormone.
02:10:02.300 --> 02:10:06.220
And like it makes you, you just, you trust everybody, everybody.
02:10:06.220 --> 02:10:10.020
Like, so it's, it's a really, it's a really dangerous drug in that way.
02:10:10.020 --> 02:10:11.500
You should all, you should not do it.
02:10:11.700 --> 02:10:15.340
That's, I was going to say you should only do it when, but you should not do it.
02:10:15.420 --> 02:10:17.060
It's a really dangerous drug in that way.
02:10:17.540 --> 02:10:22.380
Um, but, uh, so he would send text messages, like he'd just sit there
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and be texting, like, Hey man, you're just like, so cool.
02:10:26.020 --> 02:10:27.140
And like, everything's great.
02:10:27.140 --> 02:10:28.500
And like, this, isn't this awesome?
02:10:28.500 --> 02:10:32.620
Like he's texting me, like we're sitting in the same room or singing karaoke.
02:10:32.620 --> 02:10:37.540
And it's like, I'm getting text messages about how fun this is and how awesome it is.
02:10:37.540 --> 02:10:39.700
And then he started telling me he had to put his phone away because
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he was texting Dick Masterson.
02:10:41.860 --> 02:10:44.460
And when I was on the show, like he pulled up, he's like, holy shit, I do
02:10:44.860 --> 02:10:46.580
have a text message from this guy.
02:10:47.100 --> 02:10:50.860
But, um, yeah, so he, he, he would just sit and text everybody,
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like how much he loves them.
02:10:51.900 --> 02:10:56.820
It's like the, you know, it's like that guy from every sixties movies.
02:10:56.820 --> 02:10:58.380
Like, Oh man, I just love everybody.
02:10:58.380 --> 02:11:01.380
Like that's how he acted, but he wasn't humping.
02:11:01.820 --> 02:11:03.860
So that, I think that's just normal.
02:11:03.860 --> 02:11:07.100
He says, I don't want to touch my damn phone when I'm Molly.
02:11:07.100 --> 02:11:08.060
What is wrong with that weirdo?
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I know looking at it can like your retinas are like, Oh my God, like there's trails
02:11:13.660 --> 02:11:17.180
all over the fucking lights, like, and there's, it's like, when you look at a
02:11:17.180 --> 02:11:20.780
street light through a window that has a smudge on it and it's got that big layer,
02:11:21.100 --> 02:11:26.220
imagine that in rainbow on every light you see, like it, it's cool for, like,
02:11:26.460 --> 02:11:30.020
it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,
02:11:30.020 --> 02:11:33.500
it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,
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20 seconds.
02:11:34.740 --> 02:11:36.460
And then you're like, Oh, this is annoying.
02:11:36.460 --> 02:11:38.700
Like it's, dude, let's get in a darker room immediately.
02:11:40.500 --> 02:11:40.820
Anyway,
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like this to the wall for 20 minutes.
02:11:47.220 --> 02:11:49.580
No, it was not like that.
02:11:49.580 --> 02:11:53.820
It was, there was like one of those outcroppings.
02:11:53.820 --> 02:11:55.300
So I could like hold onto it.
02:11:56.020 --> 02:11:57.060
I was muggling this wall.
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It was great.
02:11:59.260 --> 02:12:00.100
It was great.
02:12:00.900 --> 02:12:02.300
It was a nice Hilton.
02:12:02.860 --> 02:12:04.220
It wasn't a skinny Hilton.
02:12:04.460 --> 02:12:06.060
They had a really good wallpaper.
02:12:06.980 --> 02:12:09.620
Diamond Plus members are crying out loud.
02:12:10.060 --> 02:12:11.700
They called me the next day and said, I'm late.
02:12:11.900 --> 02:12:12.580
It's like, fuck.
02:12:23.460 --> 02:12:26.940
You know, I, it, that looked to me like,
02:12:27.420 --> 02:12:29.940
the clip looked to me like he's using.
02:12:30.020 --> 02:12:31.900
And I'm not going to accuse him of it.
02:12:31.980 --> 02:12:34.660
If he, if he is, I hope he gets it under control.
02:12:36.260 --> 02:12:41.420
But I think his anxiety might be that he's, he is a very controlled guy.
02:12:41.420 --> 02:12:44.700
Like he, no one's able to maintain the veneer as well as him.
02:12:44.700 --> 02:12:46.660
Like that's almost undeniable.
02:12:46.700 --> 02:12:47.700
It's scary.
02:12:48.180 --> 02:12:54.060
And he was like that normally, but things do wear down on him and he does lose it.
02:12:54.060 --> 02:12:58.100
He does crack and like all of the, all of the shit coming down, all the legal shit,
02:12:58.460 --> 02:12:59.980
I wouldn't want to be him at all.
02:13:00.220 --> 02:13:01.820
I didn't, I didn't want to be me.
02:13:01.820 --> 02:13:03.780
I definitely didn't want to, I don't want to be him.
02:13:04.140 --> 02:13:07.660
And having all that crumple, having that hearing go the way it is.
02:13:07.700 --> 02:13:10.900
I mean, that's the type of stuff that will bring you back to things that you
02:13:10.900 --> 02:13:12.420
said you wouldn't do ever again.
02:13:12.940 --> 02:13:13.220
Yeah.
02:13:13.780 --> 02:13:14.180
I doubt.
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Yeah.
02:13:18.540 --> 02:13:22.500
Well, he's also got that golf tournament to, to worry about.
02:13:22.900 --> 02:13:23.100
Yeah.
02:13:23.100 --> 02:13:24.460
I'm sure that stress came out.
02:13:25.020 --> 02:13:28.940
Uh, has, has Milton released the golf video yet?
02:13:29.380 --> 02:13:31.540
Yeah, we were playing, we played it earlier, right before you came on.
02:13:32.380 --> 02:13:36.860
Did he, did he mention the organization of the, uh, did that come through the
02:13:36.860 --> 02:13:38.460
organization of the golf tournament?
02:13:38.460 --> 02:13:42.540
Like how, how the, the work that Aaron has put into it and how the
02:13:42.540 --> 02:13:43.660
golf course is involved?
02:13:45.980 --> 02:13:50.300
Uh, that he had paid for the green, like.
02:13:51.420 --> 02:13:54.420
He pre-paid, he just pre-paid 50 green fees.
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Yes.
02:13:56.140 --> 02:13:59.020
But like, does he have 50 people signed up?
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Like, that's what I'm saying.
02:14:00.460 --> 02:14:01.060
Where does that?
02:14:01.740 --> 02:14:03.820
No, it's like $2,500.
02:14:04.220 --> 02:14:04.700
Yeah.
02:14:05.140 --> 02:14:07.420
It's like just $2,500.
02:14:08.020 --> 02:14:08.420
Boom.
02:14:08.500 --> 02:14:09.020
There you go.
02:14:09.060 --> 02:14:09.500
Okay.
02:14:10.220 --> 02:14:14.340
Uh, how are you organizing this event?
02:14:14.380 --> 02:14:15.460
Like, I don't know.
02:14:15.460 --> 02:14:17.020
And I can't figure it out.
02:14:17.020 --> 02:14:20.940
Like he has to sell so many tickets.
02:14:20.940 --> 02:14:21.140
Yeah.
02:14:21.540 --> 02:14:25.620
And I know people who love to play golf, who no one wants to fucking
02:14:25.620 --> 02:14:28.100
get up and play golf, uh, after a night of drinking.
02:14:28.420 --> 02:14:28.860
No.
02:14:29.060 --> 02:14:33.260
Second, like golf with you're not playing golf with him.
02:14:33.260 --> 02:14:38.020
So you're literally participating in a golf tournament, but it's a golf
02:14:38.020 --> 02:14:41.980
tournament that's organized by someone who's retarded and not by an
02:14:41.980 --> 02:14:44.380
organization that's professional in any way.
02:14:44.740 --> 02:14:48.140
And so what is the appeal of this?
02:14:48.340 --> 02:14:49.580
I can't figure it out.
02:14:49.660 --> 02:14:55.820
And so the, the way I like, cause if, if I'm of a steel toe fan and I get to
02:14:55.820 --> 02:14:59.220
play golf in Aaron's foursome, that's valuable to me, right?
02:14:59.220 --> 02:15:05.380
Like I could see someone spending $250, $300 for like, sells three, three spots
02:15:05.380 --> 02:15:07.500
in a foursome for several hundred bucks each.
02:15:07.860 --> 02:15:08.180
Yeah.
02:15:08.260 --> 02:15:09.860
He'd probably get three people to sign up.
02:15:09.860 --> 02:15:10.460
No problem.
02:15:11.180 --> 02:15:15.060
The other 47 don't make any fucking sense at all.
02:15:15.180 --> 02:15:18.100
And, and I can't figure out who would want to do this, why, why they
02:15:18.100 --> 02:15:19.260
would want to do this in this way.
02:15:19.260 --> 02:15:20.940
It's like, oh, so I'm going to go out.
02:15:21.340 --> 02:15:22.620
I'm going to get my ass up early.
02:15:22.620 --> 02:15:26.460
I'm going to go play in a golf tournament in a shitty golf course, in a shitty town
02:15:27.420 --> 02:15:28.820
that I'm not familiar with.
02:15:28.820 --> 02:15:31.260
And then what I got to pack my clubs.
02:15:31.260 --> 02:15:34.100
I got to, I got to rent my own cart probably like that.
02:15:34.100 --> 02:15:35.460
Cause that's not going to be in there.
02:15:35.500 --> 02:15:36.900
It's just paid the green fees.
02:15:37.580 --> 02:15:39.740
So what is, what is anybody getting out of this?
02:15:39.740 --> 02:15:40.460
I don't know.
02:15:40.820 --> 02:15:43.460
And he has some people sponsoring holes or something, right?
02:15:43.460 --> 02:15:44.740
Where they could put up their little sign.
02:15:44.740 --> 02:15:46.220
How's that going to go over when he.
02:15:46.860 --> 02:15:49.580
I don't know because the owner, like the golf course, people were like, wait,
02:15:49.580 --> 02:15:53.340
what, like, huh, and so what are you going to go put a corporate sponsor sign?
02:15:53.340 --> 02:15:58.380
Like does the golf, the golf course may not want a bar that's
02:15:58.820 --> 02:16:00.740
a competitor to their bar.
02:16:01.300 --> 02:16:01.700
Right.
02:16:02.300 --> 02:16:05.820
I mean, not really like golf bar versus biker bar.
02:16:05.820 --> 02:16:10.180
I get, but, but it is a bar that's in a different, like, so you're advertising
02:16:10.180 --> 02:16:12.900
to go to somewhere else for drinks.
02:16:12.900 --> 02:16:15.220
Like, have you cleared the corporate sponsorships with this?
02:16:15.220 --> 02:16:21.180
Like this isn't, I don't know of any, any like corporate, any organized
02:16:21.180 --> 02:16:25.900
corporation that would go, yeah, we'll just let you put sponsorships up
02:16:25.940 --> 02:16:28.060
wherever you want and we won't review them.
02:16:28.060 --> 02:16:30.100
It's like, what if you, what if it's another golf course?
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I would sponsor all 18 holes.
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If I was the competing golf, right?
02:16:35.020 --> 02:16:39.940
I think he had even said that the, that the sponsors would get like a little sign
02:16:39.940 --> 02:16:42.420
or something that they could put out or whatever at the holes.
02:16:42.500 --> 02:16:46.620
I'm betting you a hundred bucks that he's going to go early, put the signs
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out, then be the last person to golf.
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So once he's finished a hole, he'll pick up the sign and throw it
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in the back of his cart.
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Yeah.
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And the crazy thing is like, as the organizer and the celeb du jour, he
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should be the first person done.
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And he should be waiting at the clubhouse for everybody to come see him
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because you organize an event where you're not present for 90% of it.
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That doesn't make any sense.
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I just, like, I just don't, I don't get the whole thing.
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It would have been funnier if it was like a mini golf thing or something
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where people are around and they could interact the whole time and have a lot of
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fun, I just, but he's, he's got this obsession with like looking manly.
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It's like, well, one, you don't and two, um, just because some men play golf
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doesn't mean that that's manly or that that has anything to do with masculinity
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at all, like there's masculine ways to play golf and then there's how I play golf.
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Which is very not masculine, right?
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Like, so not always there.
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And I don't know why he thinks that, but I'm, I would be, I would almost be
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shocked if, uh, if he didn't have like cigars available for people and stuff
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like that, like stupid, stupid little man things, um, around the court
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or around the course as they go.
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But, but yeah, he's going to run out and just drop these placards
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on 18 different holes because he's like, Oh, we've got corporate sponsors for
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every hole.
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It's like, what's the, what the corporate sponsorship costs?
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30 bucks.
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Like who's going to do this?
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And who wants to advertise?
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How much do you want to pay to advertise to 50 people?
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You're advertising to 50 people at best 50 people.
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It's just like, Oh, what?
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I mean, you're going to charge, you can charge $250 to sponsor a
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hole for 50 people to come.
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Like they're not going to Midland armory.
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They're just not going to go not driving to Foley after the
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golf tournament.
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They're not going to do that.
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They might go have lunch in St.
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Cloud.
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It's just, dude, I don't know.
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That fools me.
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Like I'm, I'm not an advertising or marketing major specialists
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or anything like that.
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I've just learned a lot from doing this and everything, everything
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he does makes no sense.
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But you know, he's right.
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Like salty cracker reminds him of him in his second year broadcasting
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870,000 little, little on, on rumble.
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And by the way, salty's rumble numbers are legit cause you can
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watch the donations come in and they are unreal.
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That guy makes a fucking fortune.
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Um, and he's cool.
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He's super nice.
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He said nice things about me during my downtime and stuff like that.
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Um, I've always wanted to interview with salty.
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I haven't gotten the opportunity, uh, to do so yet, but he was really nice.
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He said nice things when I was down.
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So that was really cool.
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And then, and then he like talks about sniper Wolf.
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It's like, this is a woman with 5 million subscribers.
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You can't tell these people how to do their jobs.
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They're way better than you at it.
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And it's not just cause she's pretty or something, because there's tons
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of pretty women on the internet, like, and they don't have 5 million subscribers.
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Her content, not for me, but her content is for 5 million people.
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Like they're, they're okay with her.
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I think she might be 2 million or something.
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It doesn't matter.
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It's way more than me.
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I wouldn't presume to tell her how to run her business.
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And I wouldn't presume to tell salty how to run his he's better at it than I am.
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And it's very obvious.
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And he's better at it than, than Erin ever will be.
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I was like my second year of broadcasting.
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No, it is.
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He's broadcasting to, uh, hundreds of thousands of people
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and you're broadcasting to nobody.
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Just baffling disconnects with reality.
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I, I still, to this day, like this has been, you know, over a year and I almost
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a year and a half and I still cannot believe, like, I can't believe what I'm seeing.
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It's like, uh, I'm still learning so much.
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It's wild.
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It really is wild.
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It's something that I've never seen or experienced in my entire life.
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Like when, when we first, um, started talking about Erin and really like just
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kind of covering different things with him aside from you, I would tell
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Haley all the time, I was like, I feel like I'm being gaslit all the time.
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And it's just weird because I don't know, cause I don't know him.
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And I, I didn't watch his show regularly or anything like that.
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So it's like, you're always feel like, is he really telling the truth?
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And then like two seconds later, you're like, uh, no, that didn't happen.
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What are you talking about?
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And the weird thing is he's so, he's so effectively blends
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incompetence and malicious deception.
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Like he doesn't know anything about any subject.
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It's amazing.
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Watch like, and you'd think by human is two year degree in broadcasting
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technology, which is such a useful degree.
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Um, because broadcasting tech really requires expertise now, like, because
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you can't do it from an iPhone.
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Um, but so he has his broadcast tech degree, but even that stuff, he gets
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remarkably wrong, but every subject, every single one, without exception, I
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have not found a subject where I've sat there and listened to the show and gone,
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you know, that's a valid point.
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Like that makes sense.
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Everything is basic facts, wrong, uh, concepts, wrong themes, wrong.
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He's a, he's a history guy, but he gets history like absurdly wrong.
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It's like, how, how these subjects and like, I know so much more about them.
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How do you not know anything?
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How do you know nothing about a single subject?
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That's what I can't figure out because I don't know anyone who's walked through
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so much life without learning a goddamn thing.
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Just even just like listening some to some of his takes on, um,
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Like the stories and stuff that are out there too.
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It's just like, no.
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And that's something that Haley and I had talked about before is like, when it
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comes to even some of the subject matter that he does cover, it's like, all you
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have to do is like scratch the surface a little bit more to give your audience
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something different or something that they're not just get like headlines.
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Like they don't need just the headlines.
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Like something, you know,
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his show prep when, when we were hanging out was just April basically going to,
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uh, not the B and grabbing stories, you know, and just putting them in a word
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document or whatever forum to pull up and just kind of go through, but yeah,
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no insight, like there's no insight at all.
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And it's, it's amazing because I feel, even if you have like opinions I
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disagree with, or maybe you disagree on some of the facts or something of a
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story or you don't trust the media, you can, you can have, um, intelligent,
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intelligible discussions that are engaging and it's, it's not that difficult
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because people are really damn interesting.
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Not everybody is articulate, but just about everybody, like almost everybody
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I've ever met is wildly interesting.
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I want to like learn about them constantly.
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Um, but not everybody's able to articulate that very well.
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And so sure, you get some people who don't have the ability to put their
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thoughts into, into words, but he does.
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Like he, he's intelligible or he's not intelligible.
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He's, he's under, he's audible.
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He has the gift of gab where he can just continuously just talk.
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Yeah, he, he does.
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Um, and I mean, I know, I know a lot of people who do, uh, anyone who's
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a social monster does like, uh, I don't like talking about myself and things
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like this, but I, I clearly do like this.
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I mean, one, that's my job, but like in social situations, I know dangerously
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little enough about everything to walk in and listen for about a minute or two
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minutes to what's going on and to ask an intelligent question about a subject
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that is going on in the group.
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And so then, and then I'm in the discussion and that's it.
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He knows how to go ask the question.
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He just doesn't know what the question is.
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Like he just doesn't know any subject and it's, it's weird because he can talk
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and he can talk and talk and talk.
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It's just not about anything other than him.
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Right.
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And it's, it's still, it's, it's fascinating to watch.
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It definitely, it definitely definitely is.
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I wish it was in y'all's shoes.
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Right.
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Bumps on me.
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Cause I would much rather watch this from the fucking outside.
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No doubt.
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It is, it is definitely a wild experience for sure.
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Watching it on the outside.
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So I couldn't even imagine what it's like on the inside.
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Um, who, who's like my, one of my favorite side characters and all this
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though, like in the, in the drama that is this Adam Bush, Adam Bush.
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Yeah.
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The he's on, he's on her, these podcasts.
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Yeah.
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He's, uh, uh, uh, Kayla and I watched Buffy in college.
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Uh, so like he was Warren, I think he was Warren in, in Buffy.
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And I think he becomes like God for a while and then gets killed.
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I don't know.
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Anyway, so it's, when I realized who it was, I was like, Holy shit.
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That's, that's the guy from Buffy.
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Like, and so I got to meet him in Vegas and that was kind of neat, but he, like
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every conversation with him is so funny because he's like, okay, now tell me more
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about that.
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He's like, he's like, psychology into everything and every person,
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psychoanalyzing them.
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And it's wild, like listening to him talk about karmic.
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And so I'm like, why are you thinking so much about this?
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Like, don't get me wrong.
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I think he's a, I think he's a great dude, but then he, like, I heard him
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talk about me and he's like, well, I think he's just, he's really
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troubled on these things.
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I'm like, I mean, you're kinda right.
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But also like, this is so, this is so in depth.
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It's like so dramatic.
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Like I love that.
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Maybe they just come to him.
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Um, did you have, I can't hear.
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I see the thing from Moody up on the screen.
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Hey, did someone hear?
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Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
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Hold on.
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Okay.
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Here we go.
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Okay.
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There we go.
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Hey, did someone hear order a filibuster?
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Oh, looks like you've already got one going.
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I'll see myself out.
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Hey, wait a minute.
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Pulling a team Jeffries.
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I see.
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Okay.
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So, uh, do you think it's possible SP is doing Molly with him?
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Thank you for keeping me company on this lonely 18 hour drive.
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What's up, Nick?
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Uh, keep moving forward.
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18 hours.
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Dang.
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It's a long time.
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I don't, I didn't, one, I don't ever want to accuse anybody, um, that I have no evidence
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of, like, I don't want to accuse people who are doing drugs of doing drugs.
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I just think, I think it's funny to, to see what appears to be used from someone who is
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so adamantly railed against it and stuff like that.
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And, um, and particularly against me, the Schadenfreude is the funny part.
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Uh, the use, I don't care.
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Like I, I, I don't give a shit if people do drugs or not.
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Like it doesn't bother me.
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You shouldn't do them.
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Don't do them.
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Very legal.
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I'm a fun guy, but don't like, uh, that being said, I don't, I don't personally care.
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I don't have a moral issue with it.
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Uh, you know, people's run-ins with the law will be their own.
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Um, as for SP, I don't know her at all.
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I've never seen her.
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Uh, the only thing I really want to make fun of her about was when she got like roped into
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trying to get me on Instagram, direct messages.
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Yeah.
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That was just weird and funny.
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What are you doing?
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Why?
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Like all I did was ask you a question, uh, after you, like you reached out to me and
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then I was just like, so like, I don't know, you're talking to me.
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What's up?
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What's your story?
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Uh, I'll answer that.
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Uh, I'll answer that.
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Like, I'll ask that question of damn near anybody who direct messages me.
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And if like they say something interesting and, um, so I made fun of that, but other
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than that, like, I don't really know her or anything.
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Um, so I have no idea.
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Uh, I don't know if he's doing Molly.
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He's not sweating profusely in the, I mean, when you're on Molly, you are, you're cooking
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like your body is cooking, you sweat a lot and, uh, you're, you get really red, um, really
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fast.
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Once it hits and you're really dehydrated, uh, that said, I mean, who knows who cares
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if the other person's doing Molly, frankly, it doesn't matter.
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It's fun for them too, but like the way, like, uh, Molly is a, you can have, um, a great
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time alone on Molly, uh, with someone else who's with you, but not on Molly.
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I think that's how you say that.
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Well, we also know that you can also be alone with the wall and have a great time with Molly
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as well.
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So man, that wall was something I need to remember her number.
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I don't know.
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I was, see, that was the first time I ever did it and that was right when it hit.
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So I like, I'm, I, I thought it was, uh, I thought I had gotten like a bad batch of stuff
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and nothing happened.
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It was like three hours and supposed to kick in after an hour.
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It's like three hours later and nothing's gone on.
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I was hanging out with, um, they didn't, these guys didn't know at all.
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So don't, don't like get pissed at them.
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But I was hanging out with like Star Wars girl and, uh, Cecil and Camelot and legal
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mindset and, uh, there's some other guys, there's some other people there that I don't
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remember the names of right off the top of my head, but anyway, so we're hanging out
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with them at this bar in Houston and then, uh, uh, walked with Star Wars girl back to
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the hotel.
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Uh, Kayla and I did, uh, didn't, she walks at the speed of lightning.
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It's weird in heels.
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So we're like struggling to keep up, but I thought it was done.
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So I'm just laying there in bed and I'm like, Oh, I got to go to the bathroom and I go in
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the bathroom and I look in the mirror and I'm shirtless, sorry.
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And uh, my skin was changing color as I was breathing, like to me, like it was going red
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to white, red to white.
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And I was like, Whoa, that's different.
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Right.
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And then I looked at the wall and it was kind of like swirling.
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So that's it.
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That was it calling out to call on your name, but I've never had, like, I had never had
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this before.
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I'd never had any experience like this.
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It was, I think I had tried cocaine like once or twice before doing Molly and I, I did hate
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it at first.
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I had bad stuff.
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Um, I did hate it at first.
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And so like the only hard drug I'd ever done was like a couple hits of cocaine.
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I didn't like it.
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And so this was entirely new to me.
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It was something, it was something else and you will never get that.
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You'll never get that back.
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It happens the one time and you won't get it again.
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You'll look, you'll chase it and you'll do a whole lot like every day and you still will
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never get there.
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I learned a lot more about Molly than I ever thought I would today.
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Did you read this when you popped it up?
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No, I did not.
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So Visit Hedonism 2 for 5 said, I just don't want to see him except when I give a one hour
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presentation about how he was my wife's BF in Vegas.
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Nick.
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He wasn't there.
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I didn't want to see him.
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I didn't have anything to say to him.
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I had a lot to say about him.
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Absolutely.
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It's amazing.
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That person's a frequent commentator.
no insight, like there's no insight at all.
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And it's, it's amazing because I feel, even if you have like opinions I
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disagree with, or maybe you disagree on some of the facts or something of a
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story or you don't trust the media, you can, you can have, um, intelligent,
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intelligible discussions that are engaging and it's, it's not that difficult
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because people are really damn interesting.
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Not everybody is articulate, but just about everybody, like almost everybody
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I've ever met is wildly interesting.
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I want to like learn about them constantly.
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Um, but not everybody's able to articulate that very well.
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And so sure, you get some people who don't have the ability to put their
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thoughts into, into words, but he does.
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Like he, he's intelligible or he's not intelligible.
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He's, he's under, he's audible.
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He has the gift of gab where he can just continuously just talk.
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Yeah, he, he does.
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Um, and I mean, I know, I know a lot of people who do, uh, anyone who's
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a social monster does like, uh, I don't like talking about myself and things
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like this, but I, I clearly do like this.
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I mean, one, that's my job, but like in social situations, I know dangerously
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little enough about everything to walk in and listen for about a minute or two
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minutes to what's going on and to ask an intelligent question about a subject
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that is going on in the group.
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And so then, and then I'm in the discussion and that's it.
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He knows how to go ask the question.
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He just doesn't know what the question is.
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Like he just doesn't know any subject and it's, it's weird because he can talk
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and he can talk and talk and talk.
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It's just not about anything other than him.
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Right.
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And it's, it's still, it's, it's fascinating to watch.
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It definitely, it definitely definitely is.
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I wish it was in y'all's shoes.
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Right.
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Bumps on me.
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Cause I would much rather watch this from the fucking outside.
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No doubt.
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It is, it is definitely a wild experience for sure.
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Watching it on the outside.
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So I couldn't even imagine what it's like on the inside.
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Um, who, who's like my, one of my favorite side characters and all this
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though, like in the, in the drama that is this Adam Bush, Adam Bush.
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Yeah.
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The he's on, he's on her, these podcasts.
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Yeah.
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He's, uh, uh, uh, Kayla and I watched Buffy in college.
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Uh, so like he was Warren, I think he was Warren in, in Buffy.
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And I think he becomes like God for a while and then gets killed.
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I don't know.
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Anyway, so it's, when I realized who it was, I was like, Holy shit.
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That's, that's the guy from Buffy.
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Like, and so I got to meet him in Vegas and that was kind of neat, but he, like
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every conversation with him is so funny because he's like, okay, now tell me more
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about that.
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He's like, he's like, psychology into everything and every person,
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psychoanalyzing them.
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And it's wild, like listening to him talk about karmic.
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And so I'm like, why are you thinking so much about this?
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Like, don't get me wrong.
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I think he's a, I think he's a great dude, but then he, like, I heard him
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talk about me and he's like, well, I think he's just, he's really
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troubled on these things.
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I'm like, I mean, you're kinda right.
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But also like, this is so, this is so in depth.
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It's like so dramatic.
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Like I love that.
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Maybe they just come to him.
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Um, did you have, I can't hear.
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I see the thing from Moody up on the screen.
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Hey, did someone hear?
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Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
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Hold on.
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Okay.
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Here we go.
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Okay.
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There we go.
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Hey, did someone hear order a filibuster?
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Oh, looks like you've already got one going.
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I'll see myself out.
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Hey, wait a minute.
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Pulling a team Jeffries.
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I see.
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Okay.
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So, uh, do you think it's possible SP is doing Molly with him?
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Thank you for keeping me company on this lonely 18 hour drive.
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What's up, Nick?
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Uh, keep moving forward.
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18 hours.
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Dang.
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It's a long time.
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I don't, I didn't, one, I don't ever want to accuse anybody, um, that I have no evidence
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of, like, I don't want to accuse people who are doing drugs of doing drugs.
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I just think, I think it's funny to, to see what appears to be used from someone who is
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so adamantly railed against it and stuff like that.
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And, um, and particularly against me, the Schadenfreude is the funny part.
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Uh, the use, I don't care.
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Like I, I, I don't give a shit if people do drugs or not.
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Like it doesn't bother me.
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You shouldn't do them.
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Don't do them.
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Very legal.
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I'm a fun guy, but don't like, uh, that being said, I don't, I don't personally care.
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I don't have a moral issue with it.
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Uh, you know, people's run-ins with the law will be their own.
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Um, as for SP, I don't know her at all.
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I've never seen her.
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Uh, the only thing I really want to make fun of her about was when she got like roped into
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trying to get me on Instagram, direct messages.
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Yeah.
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That was just weird and funny.
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What are you doing?
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Why?
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Like all I did was ask you a question, uh, after you, like you reached out to me and
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then I was just like, so like, I don't know, you're talking to me.
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What's up?
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What's your story?
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Uh, I'll answer that.
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Uh, I'll answer that.
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Like, I'll ask that question of damn near anybody who direct messages me.
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And if like they say something interesting and, um, so I made fun of that, but other
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than that, like, I don't really know her or anything.
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Um, so I have no idea.
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Uh, I don't know if he's doing Molly.
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He's not sweating profusely in the, I mean, when you're on Molly, you are, you're cooking
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like your body is cooking, you sweat a lot and, uh, you're, you get really red, um, really
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fast.
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Once it hits and you're really dehydrated, uh, that said, I mean, who knows who cares
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if the other person's doing Molly, frankly, it doesn't matter.
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It's fun for them too, but like the way, like, uh, Molly is a, you can have, um, a great
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time alone on Molly, uh, with someone else who's with you, but not on Molly.
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I think that's how you say that.
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Well, we also know that you can also be alone with the wall and have a great time with Molly
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as well.
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So man, that wall was something I need to remember her number.
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I don't know.
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I was, see, that was the first time I ever did it and that was right when it hit.
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So I like, I'm, I, I thought it was, uh, I thought I had gotten like a bad batch of stuff
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and nothing happened.
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It was like three hours and supposed to kick in after an hour.
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It's like three hours later and nothing's gone on.
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I was hanging out with, um, they didn't, these guys didn't know at all.
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So don't, don't like get pissed at them.
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But I was hanging out with like Star Wars girl and, uh, Cecil and Camelot and legal
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mindset and, uh, there's some other guys, there's some other people there that I don't
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remember the names of right off the top of my head, but anyway, so we're hanging out
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with them at this bar in Houston and then, uh, uh, walked with Star Wars girl back to
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the hotel.
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Uh, Kayla and I did, uh, didn't, she walks at the speed of lightning.
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It's weird in heels.
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So we're like struggling to keep up, but I thought it was done.
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So I'm just laying there in bed and I'm like, Oh, I got to go to the bathroom and I go in
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the bathroom and I look in the mirror and I'm shirtless, sorry.
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And uh, my skin was changing color as I was breathing, like to me, like it was going red
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to white, red to white.
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And I was like, Whoa, that's different.
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Right.
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And then I looked at the wall and it was kind of like swirling.
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So that's it.
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That was it calling out to call on your name, but I've never had, like, I had never had
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this before.
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I'd never had any experience like this.
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It was, I think I had tried cocaine like once or twice before doing Molly and I, I did hate
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it at first.
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I had bad stuff.
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Um, I did hate it at first.
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And so like the only hard drug I'd ever done was like a couple hits of cocaine.
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I didn't like it.
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And so this was entirely new to me.
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It was something, it was something else and you will never get that.
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You'll never get that back.
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It happens the one time and you won't get it again.
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You'll look, you'll chase it and you'll do a whole lot like every day and you still will
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never get there.
02:32:47.280 --> 02:32:51.400
I learned a lot more about Molly than I ever thought I would today.
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Did you read this when you popped it up?
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No, I did not.
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So Visit Hedonism 2 for 5 said, I just don't want to see him except when I give a one hour
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presentation about how he was my wife's BF in Vegas.
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Nick.
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He wasn't there.
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I didn't want to see him.
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I didn't have anything to say to him.
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I had a lot to say about him.
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Absolutely.
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It's amazing.
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That person's a frequent commentator.
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For some reason, that passed me by. I knew the judge was pissed because she was resetting the bail arrangements, but I hadn't noticed that she'd refused to accept the agreed on sentence.
Given that, if I'm Aaron I'm demanding a jury trial. Lets get the whole story out in front of a goddam jury and see what THEY make of the behaviour of Mr and Mrs Balldo and how damaged they are by the sending of a titty pic to a single person.
And I assume that would also allow Aaron to replace Judge Piggly-Wiggly and get somebody more reasonable and less hysterical on the case?
Sexual Chocolate
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Thinking about this, because everything Balldo does seems to come from a place of narc rage at being denied the things he thinks he deserves. The weird fantasy about controlling someone else's finances (remember, Nick can't control his own finances and had to sell a house to pay drug debts) is oddly specific.
But remember, before and after his brief Nigger Rich Nick period of accidental success, his finances were/are controlled by Crazy Eyes Rekieta
Crazy Eyes has been bankrolling her son Nicky's whole life, allowing him to play at being a lawyer and a family man even though he can't remember to obey road laws or pay tickets. But instead of being grateful for this, Nick seethes with homosexual narc rage at MOMMMMM placing conditions around the allowance Nicky receives (also remember: the Balldownfall happened exactly when Brokedick thought he was finally financially independent of Crazy Eyes.)
His childish glee at the idea of controlling another man's money is just another
high school revenge fantasy motivated by his own burning humiliation at being a 40something fuckup who still needs Mommy to pay his bills.
Pentamidine
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My recollection is that she asked the defense if they’d like to move forward with sentencing (after she chewed Aaron out) and the defense chose to postpone. I’m trying to find the transcript now to double check
TherapyMan
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Just as a note, the "right to privacy" as a concept has a much longer and more extensive history outside of Griswold, but Griswold is the first time an explicit constitutional right to privacy was recognized by SCOTUS. "Privacy" as a concept in law exists as this fascinating pastiche of common law principles (torts like intrusion upon seclusion, false light publicity, etc.), statutory law (HIPAA, GINA, GLBA, etc.), and constitutional law (Katz, Griswold, Obergefell, Carpenter, Lawrence, etc.) depending on the context. But the type of "privacy" Nick complains about, (i.e. one non-government actor acting against another) is not within the ambit with Griswold, which deals with government intrusion on a person's "privacy." Yadda yadda yadda, the point being blaming Griswold here is misplaced.
If you want to read a foundational article that explains the historical and intellectual foundations of privacy as a right, I would suggest reading over (or finding a good summary) "The Right to Privacy" by Samuel Warren and Louis Brandeis. I do not think it is an exaggeration to say that "The Right to Privacy" is perhaps the most influential law article ever written.
Not Even Twice
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That's just sad.
Generally it's revolting to watching the way Nick and his gollum wife behave in all of this (the whole "kayla is a victim" crap is such a disgusting manipulation by those 2). Nick and Kayla and his parents are cancer to small communities and they are poison to their own kids who will likely grow up to be just as disruptive as their failed parents.
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I am. The average crip doesn't get to rely on having mommy's money and the world's laziest PO to dodge jail time, they have to be smart enough to know when to "cool off"
Nick doesn't. He's only sober by force, and even then probably not actually sober.
Melty Butter
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Anyone need a palate cleanser? The city of Willmar's IG posted this question on July 4 of 24 of their city employees (including some cops). A few are loosely related to the Rekieta investigation (many have name tags on). Wholesome af. Link.
But, yes, this feels like it may go to trial which, honestly, might be better for Aaron. He'll have more of an opportunity to explain the context and degenerate circumstances behind this entire debacle. He could also (maybe) raise $2-3K on GiveSendGo. Aaron will look like a retard but Nick will look like a monster (both verifed).
Also, it will be more fun for us because Nick, Kayla and April will be witnesses. Popcorn, please.
Is it too late for Aaron to request a new judge? We know the accused can do that 1x in MN as a matter of procedure. Paging @Potentially Criminal
But, yes, this feels like it may go to trial which, honestly, might be better for Aaron. He'll have more of an opportunity to explain the context and degenerate circumstances behind this entire debacle. He could also (maybe) raise $2-3K on GiveSendGo. Aaron will look like a retard but Nick will look like a monster (both verifed).
Also, it will be more fun for us because Nick, Kayla and April will be witnesses. Popcorn, please.
Sloppa
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That's why nick dislikes him so much.
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Nick is full of it. I'm Powergaming here, I have professional experience with Google Workspace: there is no way he saw Aaron’s Google history data locally without either (a) using Aaron’s credentials to start a new session, or (b) exploiting a pre-existing session to access Aaron’s confidential Google account. Even if it was an existing session, that still constitutes unauthorized access, and under the CFAA, it makes no difference whether credentials were re-entered or not.
According to House Cat's archive of raging autism, Aaron left the Rekieta property around April 5, 2024. That’s the latest possible date Nick could have had any legitimate permission to access Aaron’s Google account. After that point, continuing to view or interact with Aaron’s data would be understood by a reasonable person to be unauthorized due to their rather acrimonious end.
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In Nick’s leaked screenshot of Aaron’s Google history, he shows Page 5633 of this exact thread, first created by our fellow users on July 9th, 2024. It is impossible for these webpages to exist before that date, (unless Nick learned to create websites and impersonate KiwiFarms, very farfetched) This website data was generated at least ninety-five days after Aaron left the property under hostile circumstances. Are we seriously supposed to believe Nick had some kind of “offline,” authorized access to Aaron’s private server-side Google data several months after Aaron’s departure on April 5th?
This is complete horseshit.
Aaron’s Google account history is stored server-side in his personal Google account and is account-scoped, not device-scoped. Even if Aaron’s OAuth session remained active on the device, his synced Google activity wouldn’t appear in the local browsing history of Nick’s profile or any guest user account. At best he could argue that he was logged into his own Google Chrome browser account and then used logins or auth tokens to temporarily access Aaron's Google account data to grab specific instances of Aaron's history data then log out. There's no situation in which Aaron's history data "passively" flows out of Aaron's account while Nick can pretend to not violate CFAA with lack of authorisation.
Therefore, any claim that Aaron’s Google account history was “locally visible” in Nick’s own Google account or in a guest session is false. Viewing that data required direct, unauthorized access to Aaron’s authenticated account session. The only excuse Nick can possibly invent here is that he fabricated the entire event, but Aaron insists its real and has made reports to authorities.
Also worth highlighting is the censored profile imagery in the leaked screenshots. Nick shows these images while explicitly claiming they depict Aaron “going on KiwiFarms and then jerking off,” directly attributing the activity to Aaron’s account. By censoring the Google profile image on both the My Activity webpage and the browser’s UI, Nick reveals he was directly logged into Aaron’s authenticated Google account browser profiile while accessing this data. The deliberate censorship of these identifiers strongly suggests an attempt to hide unauthorized access, because if his access were legitimate, there would be no reason to obscure proof of whose account was being used.
Under Minnesota Statutes 609.891 – Unauthorized Computer Access:
"A person is guilty of unauthorized computer access if the person intentionally and without authorization attempts to or does penetrate a computer security system or electronic terminal."
It does not matter if Nick used fresh credentials to sign in or simply abused an existing OAuth session. Either way, access to Aaron’s Google account and the data inside was unauthorized. If your grandma leaves her bank account open on your laptop before wandering off to make potato salad, that doesn’t magically grant you the right to peek into her 401(k).
He’s basically admitting here that he switched between Google accounts on the same browser profile, which inherently requires an online connection to communicate with Google’s servers. This switch means he either:
- Logged into Aaron’s account by re-entering credentials he had no authorization to use, or
- Exploited pre-existing OAuth tokens to gain passwordless access to Aaron’s account.
Either way, despite Aaron being a retard and not MFA'ing his shit, is still illegal under CFAA. Car thieves don't get a reduced sentence because a dipshit left his keys in the ignition.
“Oh sure, Nick, you just happened to have an offline copy of Aaron’s data. The same data that was obviously created months after Aaron’s last authorised login. Data that can only come from Google’s server-side history logs, which require online access to an account you had zero permission to use. Yeah, totally believable. Riiiiiiiight. We’re all convinced.”
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To do it as of right you have to do it nearly immediately (before any substantive hearings).
You don't get to gamble on a judge, then decide you don't like the cut of their jib, then disqualify them automatically. After that, you need to demonstrate actual disqualification such as bias or some other appearance of impropriety.
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With some of the things he's talking about, yes. However, with respect to the bodycam kerfuffle specifically, the government is pretty clearly involved, no?
As I understand, that situation essentially boils down to a struggle between the public's right to know, and Nick's belief that the government should actively work to protect his privacy.
(And in which it warrants a reminder that he previously argued the opposite position in legal situations that did not involve him).