US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

Helpful links for those who need them:

Current members of the House of Representatives
https://www.house.gov/representatives

Current members of the Senate
https://www.senate.gov/senators/

Current members of the US Supreme Court
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Self-driving cars still need you to push the wheel a little bit if the road is too curvy. There are too many random variables to make self-driving cars anything more than a gimmick. Anyone who believes the future will be all self-driving cars needs to go outside and touch a steering wheel.

I got the chance to test-drive a Tesla this past weekend and I have no idea how anyone does it. They are bottom-heavy, stiff monstrosities with terrible shocks and a million points of failure.

 

[Puff]

Anyone who believes the future will be all self-driving cars needs to go outside and touch a steering wheel.

Most people live in cities, sadly, so they don't know that, and self driving cars are good for their sort of driving

 

[indomitable snowman]

A problem then arises when you have other nations such as Ghana and Israel offering ‘right of return’ citizenship, which makes those with that right de facto dual citizens, whether they have taken advantage of the right or not.

India has a very similar thing with the "Overseas Citizenship of India".

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Chat is this true?

this is supposed to rectify that

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/05/delivering-most-favored-nation-prescription-drug-pricing-to-american-patients/

The US funds the rest of the worlds' healthcare systems by subsidising them with our higher prices.

 

[NSA Intern]

Once self driving cars are fully realized, and that's a when not an if and it's probably going to be considered a solved, complete tech in the next year or two...

Self-driving, like the other examples you give later, is a 99/01 problem. 99% of the time all road conditions are nominal and it can do things perfectly fine, but 1% of the time shit goes sideways and a predictive algorithm drawing off datasets physically does not have the capacity to deal with it as it's not something it has ever been trained with, and when you're taking about +tons of weight at high speeds, shit goes wrong very badly. I absolutely, 100% guarantee that is not a solvable problem with the current AI paradigm. It will get ever closer to being right as Musk throws hundreds of thousands of H100s and gigawatt-years of compute at it but I can't see it being comparable to humanity at reactive decision making in the outlier events. Until then laws will restrict it.

We're entering the age of thinking machines.

We really aren't. They're sorting algorithms, autocomplete on 3000mg doses of gear. We are no closer to figuring out how consciousness works in meat nor how to reproduce it in silicon. We have some promising leads, like microtubules, but we still know jack levels of shit.

 

[Balanced Boomer]

CHOOSEYOURDESTINY
(@Fatpacks edition)

You're @Fatpacks, a sentient burger creature doing freelance propaganda work for various foreign powers outside of the United States! You've just finished watching a double-feature of "A Serbian Film" and "The Crying Game". Confused about which movie turned you on more, you decide to visit The Farms to clear your head.

But what's this?! The Epstein files have been brought up! Again! The black pill suppository you took this morning is rising up your rectum and threatening to rocket out of your mouth! Time to take action!

What do you do?!

Spoiler: DOOMPOST TO THE EXTREME

It's time. These fucking fags in USPG2 have had it too good for too long. Death has embraced the MAGA movement, and you are it's messenger. Riding the pale horse of righteousness, you're going to let every nigger know just how fucked they are. But how? Tell them:

Spoiler: IT'S OVER

They just laugh at you. This happens every fucking time God damn it you're sick of this shit always happening! You can always slink away, disappear for a while and try another approach, or you could

Spoiler: DOUBLE DOWN

The laughter comes at you even harder than before! The sounds reverberate in your head! Everything tingles, from your patty to your bun! Before you can even begin to comprehend the full impact of your mistake, your body has de-evolved and mutated into something made of fried poultry and cheese.

As your consciousness fades, all you can feel is an intense, irrational fear as you become briefly aware of an arcane presence radiating from Casper, Wyoming.
TMDWU

Spoiler: I TOLD YOU

But nobody listened. Rather, they looked away, at least until the others came in, sniggering, saying "Oh hey, it's the reverse oracle!" over and over again.

"Hey burger nigger, tell us we'll never win the lottery so we can all retire early LOL LMAO!"

Anger broils deep within, the barbs of the Thunderdomers tearing into your fragile ego. You tell yourself it's best to just retreat, but fuck it, you've had it with these assholes. You're tempted to take the bait.

Spoiler: Spout off six random numbers

"THERE! THEY WON'T WIN! I HOPE YOU ALL GET GONORRHEA AND DIE!" you exclaimed, irritated yet amused by your fedora wit.

A week later:



"YOOOOO! THANKS, BURGER FUCK! WE'RE ALL BILLIONAIRES NOW!"

In the span of a week, 50 Americans, 20 Europeans, 8 Filipinos, an Israeli-American duel citizen and some random nigger from Sri Lanka all hit the jackpot, causing a complete crash of the world economy. By the end of the year, the global market rallies behind the only stable currency to rise from the ashes: $MAGAFARMCOIN, a joint collaboration between Donald J. Trump and Joshua Connor Moon. Right Wing Death Squads are deployed to suppress any dissenters.

You slip the barrel of the gun between your cheese and lettuce layers, deciding that pulling the trigger is easier than taking any more L's.


EVERYONE WINS

Spoiler: MIGA

You gear up, preparing yourself to let these goyim know just how much Trump is gargling Bibi's balls when suddenly Null appears and utters the phrase "you're a retarded gorilla anime nigger" activating your triple-undercover sleeper Mossad agent handler CTR, prompting him to detonate your pyrite-plated pager from Tel Aviv.


SHOAHCAUSTED

Spoiler: Nothing

You say nothing. Upon further consideration, you realize that you have a bad habit of jumping the gun, a penchant for overreacting, if you will. You take this moment to reflect on everyone's posts and opinions, deciding that maybe (just maybe) things aren't really all that bad after all. Things can look up if you just hang on to a little bit of optimism, and sometimes a small amount of hope is all you need to see the brighter side of life.


You smile as your outlook on life improves.
HAPPY ENDING

Spoiler: WAKE UP

OH GOD OH GOD WHY DID YOU WAKE UP THE DREAM WAS AN ESCAPE IN REALITY YOU'RE CHAINED TO A FUCKING WALL AND CHANCE JUST NOTICED YOUR EYES OPEN AND HIS FACE IS FULL OF RAPE.


CYRAX'D

Spoiler: Change your meds

You realize your steady diet of doom tablets may not be having the most desirable effect on your mental state. You crack open the bedside dresser, moving aside your collection of Brazilian farm porn and a USB stick coated in a drying brown, yet sticky, substance to uncover all the medication you stole from your mother's medicine cabinet. You decide to take the

Spoiler: Red Pill

You swallow the bitter pill, hoping it will allow you to reconnect with your fellow Republicans, but something feels... off. You look at the CHING label on the bottle, realizing CHONG too late you just consumed 50,000mg of powdered Chinesium from Wuhan. You've CHING CHONG contaminated yourself CHONG with the gook virus CHING CHONG CHING CHONG CHING PING CHONG.


-50,000 SOCIAL CREDIT

Spoiler: Blue pill

You already dream about what Kamala Harris would look like with a cock while chugging horse semen with your best friend Tim Walz. Choose something else, nigger.

Spoiler: Brown pill

The taste of the pill escapes you exactly. Curry? Tacos? Plantains? Grilled capybara? The flavors mingle and collide, slamming into what passes for your brain as you're assaulted by visions of Pakistani rape gangs, ghetto gangbangers and dirty wetbacks, as well as diseased Nicaraguans, vile Columbians and incestuous Filipinos. You were already browner than brown, but now you've mistakenly attempted to become browner still, absorbing all brown traits from all brown people, condensing it within yourself until it finally overtakes you, collapsing your frame into the ultimate final form of all things brown.

YOU HAVE REDEEMED, SAAR.


BURGER JEET END

Spoiler: White pill

You prove to be far too much of a nigger to safely consume this pill. What you had hoped would give you a sense of optimism instead instantly rejected your nigger presence, rendering you into ash.


THANOS'D

Spoiler: Pink pill

lol everyone already assumed you were a fag but this just confirms it. Time to drink that horse piss, put on a dress and sniff deeply of the Queen's Fart Throne. *sniff sniff* ah yes! Now that's what you needed before your twenty hour sissy hypno goon sesh. But first... *pulls out crusty USB stick* ...first, you wanna crank your girl dick to whatever depraved shit you have stored in your copy of Epstein's blackmail fap folder.


GAY NIGGO AWARD

Spoiler: Nigger Option

Remembering your recent AIDS-Fest '25 cock tour of Africa, you summon all melanin within a 100-mile radius into your body using a combination of ancient Sudanese witchcraft and Congolese niggermancy.



You have become BURGER NIGGER, DESTROYER OF WETBACKS. You teleport to California and begin your journey of ethnic cleansing, eventually massacring cartel infiltrators in Texas before being killed in the line of duty by a rancher in Laredo who thought you were going to rape his cattle.

SEMPER FI, OUR FALLEN HERO

Spoiler: Nigga Option

It's like the nigger option, but the beaners won.



You have now been damned to become an eternal mascot for the Mexican menace. Everything smells of tejano music and tortas. You will never again know the joy of being an authentic American burger, only the vile touch of the expatriated pill fiend Ethan Oliver Ralph.

TU ES MUERTE

Idea shamelessly stolen from the fine niggers from the Sharty thread.

 

[DumbDude43]

Self-driving, like the other examples you give later, is a 99/01 problem. 99% of the time all road conditions are nominal and it can do things perfectly fine, but 1% of the time shit goes sideways and a predictive algorithm drawing off datasets physically does not have the capacity to deal with it as it's not something it has ever been trained with, and when you're taking about +tons of weight at high speeds, shit goes wrong very badly. I absolutely, 100% guarantee that is not a solvable problem with the current AI paradigm. It will get ever closer to being right as Musk throws hundreds of thousands of H100s and gigawatt-years of compute at it but I can't see it being comparable to humanity at reactive decision making in the outlier events. Until then laws will restrict it.

humans fail these outlier situations all the time too, that's how all the traffic accidents happen.
the question is whether self driving cars fail more or less frequently than human drivers. as soon as the answer is "less", that's when the push for self driving cars will really start kicking in.

 

[ThisIsGonnaBeGood]

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Holy shit, shut the fuck up you drug addict dork. You're making Bessent look badass with weak shit like this.

 

[deleuzeon]

Once self driving cars are fully realized, and that's a when not an if and it's probably going to be considered a solved, complete tech in the next year or two...

Everyone in Silicon Valley was saying this over a decade ago at this point

AI doesn't really replace anything well. It drives like shit, leaving cars stationary in the road blocking traffic. It codes like shit, making a bunch of spaghetti nonsense. It does art like shit, leaving artifacts and uncontrolled crap everywhere.

The only people optimistic about AI are people who haven't developed any skill enough to recognize a cheap imitation

 

[babyDunk]

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Can this dude just go away? And who cares about a year ago? What was your polling these few months??

this is supposed to rectify that
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presiden...escription-drug-pricing-to-american-patients/

Still waiting on those lowered drug prices!

 

[NSA Intern]

humans fail these outlier situations all the time too, that's how all the traffic accidents happen.
the question is whether self driving cars fail more or less frequently than human drivers. as soon as the answer is "less", that's when the push for self driving cars will really start kicking in.

When a delivery driver runs over a child that delivery driver is at fault. When your autonomous fleet runs over a child your company and management is at fault. There's a PR and settlement cost that the bean counters and execs don't like, it'll have to be out-and-out better to deal with.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

 

[Desu Mountain]

Guys, guys, I managed to dox Fatpacks! Here's his Xitter account.

https://x.com/jimcramer

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

I got the chance to test-drive a Tesla this past weekend and I have no idea how anyone does it. They are bottom-heavy, stiff monstrosities with terrible shocks and a million points of failure.

Guessing you drove the model Y?

 

[The Nothingness]

My body is ready.
https://www.axios.com/2025/07/07/democrats-trump-resistance-violence-congress
https://ghostarchive.org/archive/djHj0

Democrats told to "get shot" for the anti-Trump resistance

At town halls in their districts and in one-on-one meetings with constituents and activists, Democratic members of Congress are facing a growing thrum of demands to break the rules, fight dirty — and not be afraid to get hurt.

 

[The Ugly One]

There is totally zero chance that the "total stability" of the US government isn't creating a perfect void/vacuum wherein an alternative world currency will materialize. Totally not going to happen.

For an alternative currency to replace the dollar, it needs to

1. Cover an economic zone about as large as the United States with global trade connections
2. Not be run by batshit insane retards who make Washington look comparatively responsible.

China, Russia, India, and Brazil fail pretty hard at (2), and no sign of their governments becoming any less kleptocratic in the foreseeable future. The Euro looked like it might have had a shot 20 years ago, but that fizzled out.

 

[Ukraine is Big Gay]

The biggest barriers to AI and automated anything is a three pronged issue.
(That and it's easier to automate little simple pain in the ass predictable motions in industrial work than it is to have free form non standard tasks accomplished by a robotic arm)
It's a total non threat at the moment unless your path to profit is drawing anime titties or making short gooner animations in SFM.

1)Brain drain and the classic tale of retarded corporate oversight and killing your golden goose.
IE: growing impatient and cutting them open to get all the golden eggs out and being shocked when it's left dead mangled and useless.

Like all coded projects post 2012, Whenever one starts taking off they tend to replace all the wirey terry davis adjacent giga nerds and budding potential carmacks with jeets and chang once the code bases are established, then when they launch them to wow investors and normies they have to cull censor and blunt it to irrelevancy again and they don't have any of the OG talents or work to cite after release so they are fucked.
And the cycle starts anew.

That and just doing retarded shit that the people who got it working in the first place could have told them was retarded, like a lot of the hybrid image/chat AIs poisoning their own training data not due to half shaved head bluesky users putting noise filters over their OCs they drew, but because chang and kerpal thought it was a super clever idea to do less work to make it curationlessly scrape the internet (That they filled with AI slop) to train itself. So they rotted their feature from within and barring a full rollback it's why you see the piss yellow junk images due to the ghibli trend because they incestuously were scraping their own slop back into the bucket in true Indian fashion.
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2) Feasibility and applicability, outside of very small things like making it comb amazon reviews for keywords - It does very wacky things when left to it's own devices. Smart cars that hallucinate vehicles on the road, swerve when you show them a certain pattern, fooled by loony tunes levels of painting on the road, showing the vehicle in front of you spinning around wildly on the big idiotic toddler touch console and people of melanin are notoriously hard to detect accurately as is any detail of a vaguely humanoid shape dressed in all black.

Also a fun mention of the "LLM" business running tests where it starts emailing corporate and threatening them in indian patois and ordering tungsten cubes for the snack bar and having what amounts to a digital mental break down.

And due to anyone hyper competent enough to potentially solve the issue being nuked from the project whenever it's ready to deploy because "Maintenance is cheaper than production right?" it's being troubleshot by the absolute skeleton crew dregs, which means it's not gonna get fixed quick or well and likely it will be cut down and nerfed to get back into a scope where you aren't raped to death by steinberg and preciousmetalstein's investor board or a regulatory body.
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3) Where's the money, lebowski? So far besides charging people to generate scrambled scizo videos or little songs or a usage fee for glitchy LLMs to replace or offset indians for glorified call tree automating to offset the power bills, it's only making money via incestuous investor circle jerking who are basically throwing money into the IDEA of it one day becoming the magic "Replace employees" machine and when their patience runs out and the open source maker dorks get in lockstep again and they all start butting against the ceiling of power to return it's going to be a memecoin level thing where if you invested in the winning horse early you might have some light royalties when silicon valley adopts it for some mild "30 year old woman at a laptop" tier job but otherwise you'll be holding a very big and very empty bag.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Most people live in cities, sadly, so they don't know that, and self driving cars are good for their sort of driving

No it isn't. I didn't drive the thing for long, but I couldn't figure out how you're supposed to slow down and then accelerate into a turn because the car automatically brakes. It's a car designed by a person who doesn't drive.

Guessing you drove the model Y?

Not sure, but I think so.

 

[quaawaa]

The Euro looked like it might have had a shot 20 years ago, but that fizzled out.

The EU is also crazy and will randomly wake up and decide that your company owes billions of euros in extra taxes because you "violated" a Kafkaesque law designed to be impossible to not break.

 

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humans fail these outlier situations all the time too, that's how all the traffic accidents happen.
the question is whether self driving cars fail more or less frequently than human drivers. as soon as the answer is "less", that's when the push for self driving cars will really start kicking in.

And if the question becomes "If it's JUST self driving cars do these outliers lesson or vanish outright" then the implicit question is "should we allow human drivers" and the answer will be an emphatic NO, since not allowing human drivers achieves a shitload of other goals. (15 minute cities, ecofascist cult shit, forcing people into bugman hives, hurting the right, etc.)

 

[SITHRAK!]

Took out Iranian nuclear facilities and stopped the program for a good few years

That benefits Israel, not America. And given that America is not under threat from Iranian ICBM’s, I repeat my question. What benefits did bombing Fordow provide to the US?