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Trump promised full transparency on the Epstein files, promised they would be released to the public completely and unredacted, and Pam Bondi backed these promises by declaring that she has seen photos and videos of atrocities committed against children by Jeffrey Epstein on his island from the files and that she had them on her desk ready to be released.
As Yashar Ali put it

There was never an “Epstein List.”

Every single person who is deeply familiar with the case — including the investigative reporters who uncovered critical information about his predation — has always known that.

Attorneys representing Epstein victims told me that.
Here’s the other thing on the Epstein matter that has been mind-numbing in the past few months in particular.

Due to Trump officials making promises they couldn’t keep, Trump supporters have had this idea — untethered from reality — of how Epstein-related disclosures would unfurl.

I can’t tell you how many people I’ve seen say, “We need the lists so we can start arrests.”

The DOJ has, for decades, maintained a policy of not naming individuals in indictments unless they’ve been charged with a crime.

Remember how President Trump was referenced as “Individual One” in the Michael Cohen indictment?

The DOJ — unless it planned on upending decades of policy and opening itself up to all sorts of publicly embarrassing attempts at litigation — was never going to release a list of men who may or may not have been involved with Jeffrey Epstein.

How could anyone possibly believe that would happen?

Not to mention, Ghislaine Maxwell has an active appeal of her conviction!!!

Why would the DOJ release files related to Jeffrey Epstein, potentially compromising its attempt to get the appeal denied?

People thought a list of names would come out and then a bunch of arrests would take place?

Are you nuts?

Also — statute of limitations? That ever occur to anyone?

I feel like the idea of an Epstein master list was inherently ridiculous to begin with. Why would a criminal like him keep a list like that? Also, as Yashar points out, just being named in a hypothetical list is not enough to arrest someone and opens up a major avenue for lawsuits against the DOJ.

People expected a movie moment where everything is revealed, the good guys win and the bad guys all get named and jailed but that's not how reality works.

the DOJ expanded the list of victims from 200 to over 1k. How is that possible?

until suddenly after Trump has a closed door meeting with Netanyahu the government says none of its was real, never any list, never any documents, never any crimes. Epstein was just a big chungus that wanted to kill himself in a prison he was locked in for no reason. Sounds good!
Bibi arrived last night and didn't meet Trump until this morning.
 
It also includes $11 billion in investment for plants here in the US. Seems like a solid win for Trump as it's keeping jobs here and bringing in more investments, which long term could result in more jobs.
It also means that US Steel is de facto nationalized. Which is not a big deal if you believe that the "government should seize all means of production" like this guy.

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Its already dead and they try to keep it alive at any cost. I thought socialism is le bad. Golden share should be renamed to golden shower which is pissing away tax payers money on something that does not work. Obviously.
Anyway the sweet smell of decline is in the air and it wouldn't surprise me that Nippon Steel mid or long term does the same to US Steel what the Chinese did to British Steel earlier this year...

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You can just picture the conversation that Elon and his jeets are having. Both saying to each other “you’re more American than the people that were born here.”

The America Party will flame out precisely because Elon has no instincts whatsoever. Currently, Texas is experiencing a horrible flood. People are missing and dying. Homes being destroyed. Instead of discussing what he’ll do to help, he and his SAAARS are announcing their America Party.
I would think Elon would've learned that you don't insult your audience, then ask for their support. Remember that incident where he was in favor of outsourcing American labor from India because "Americans are stupid?"

I'm also reminded of Vivek's 4th of July X post where he's bastardizing American imagery for clout. And people eat this shit up. You think Americans love the notion of being displaced by their OWN country from foreigners that have a basic stereotypical understanding of American life?
 
It also means that US Steel is de facto nationalized. Which is not a big deal if you believe that the "government should seize all means of production" like this guy.
nationalization of essential industries is literally marxism - nigga who learned about marxism from half watching prager u videos
 
The left in this country weaponized kindness to destroy us from within. Please go FOD James Gunn..

 
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All does not appear to be well in Philadelphia.

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How is that any different from any other day in inner city Philly? If I didn't know any better, the people cowering for cover on the porch look to be having orgasms. Outlandish, yes, but it wouldn't surprise me otherwise.
 
How is that any different from any other day in inner city Philly? If I didn't know any better, the people cowering for cover on the porch look to be having orgasms. Outlandish, yes, but it wouldn't surprise me otherwise.
It's literally the best "crab bucket" imagery I could imagine, them wallering all over each other to get lower to the ground
 
It also means that US Steel is de facto nationalized. Which is not a big deal if you believe that the "government should seize all means of production" like this guy.

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Its already dead and they try to keep it alive at any cost. I thought socialism is le bad. Golden share should be renamed to golden shower which is pissing away tax payers money on something that does not work. Obviously.
Anyway the sweet smell of decline is in the air and it wouldn't surprise me that Nippon Steel mid or long term does the same to US Steel what the Chinese did to British Steel earlier this year...

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Braindead nigger take, were the Romans’ state-owned porphyry quarries also Marxist?
 
All does not appear to be well in Philadelphia.

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that guy on the left spraying the ceiling with his switch, the 2 guys on the right shooing across the street shoot at the porch where camera is at, left side across the street looks gun fire from the spot where the light was shining.


what the fuck is happening.
 
I feel like the idea of an Epstein master list was inherently ridiculous to begin with. Why would a criminal like him keep a list like that?

So totes untrue. It's somewhat common. Many criminals have kept crime logs, including, obv, mementos. Sometimes these have included very personally identifying items. Yes, it's fair to say these also function as a "log." Since you're into Israel: Myers Lansky, from what I understand, the "mob's accountant" kept detailed financial records of widespread criminal activities.
 
In todays episode of, what the fuck is going on in the middle east, the houthis are fucking SINKING cargo ships
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IDK about you guys but does it strike you as odd that with all the might of the US navy and airforce that we cant neutralize those bastards in Yemen? If I have to hear any of you hit me with the "we arent trying hard enough" im going to be sick, apparently after ww2 the us military just decided to stop "trying" cause ive heard that since Korea
 
I feel like the idea of an Epstein master list was inherently ridiculous to begin with. Why would a criminal like him keep a list like that? Also, as Yashar points out, just being named in a hypothetical list is not enough to arrest someone and opens up a major avenue for lawsuits against the DOJ.

People expected a movie moment where everything is revealed, the good guys win and the bad guys all get named and jailed but that's not how reality works.

the DOJ expanded the list of victims from 200 to over 1k. How is that possible?
And I think Trump, Pam Bondi, and Kash Patel should be held accountable for dangling this carrot in front of American citizens faces to get elected if he knew damn well he couldn't release anything. That's too much to ask from most people who, like me, voted for Trump. Everything he does has to be perfect at every moment and if he isn't perfect on something then it all the sudden doesn't matter anymore. It's embarrassing.

I remember when this thread first started there was a user that warned against endless glazing of Trump and to treat him with the same reservations you would have towards any politician even if you "support" them. I and many others dogpiled him and told them that we are smart enough to notice when Trump does something against our interests, but now I actually appreciate what they were saying. I'm not full anti-Trump by any stretch of the imagination but I really wish people would have more nuance and be more reasonable.

Also, it's hilarious that the quote from Yashar Ali ends on "but what about muh statute of limitations" even though Americans know damn well that the courts will gleefully ignore that if they are targeting certain people.
 
That Mexican riot footage made me unironically upset-stomach MATI.
Why? It's pretty based. If they do it while remaining in Mexico, based. ICE should show these videos to illegals and be like "See? Everyone is in agreement, you gotta go back - But because you are a faggot, it's El Salvador for you, Jose!"
 
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