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That ICE guy that got shot?

It wasn't just some sped taking an attack of opportunity

They had an Antifa terror cell that was setting off fireworks (same thing they did during the summer of love) and when they coaxed people out of the building to deal with the arson and explosives, they were going to try and kill them

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Charged 11 people so far, probably more once they get access to their phones and signal affinity groups

Antifa is the militant arm of the Democratic Party, much like Hamas' Al-Qassam Brigades.
So they can avoid taking responsibility for attacks they sanctioned.
 
It took the better part of a decade before the goverment acknowledged ANTIFA as an actual group. Rember Biden's "Antifa is just an idea, not an organization" bit during the first debate way back in 2020? Once we pin down the group, they would just rebrand and become just an "idea" again.

Saying, "it's an idea, not an organization," didn't stop the government from rolling up antifa and throwing people in prison. It kept the American people in confusion when the government refused to roll up antifa and throw people in prison. Those are wildly different things. What kept antifa out of prison wasn't any cutesy little rhetorical tactic, it was having allies inside the federal government, including such high-ranking figures as Merrick Garland. It is critical to understand what antifa actually is. It isn't just a bunch of rowdy leftists. It is the clandestine street terror arm of the government to suppress political dissent among the American people and create showy news events to justify the latest action of the state.
 
Saying, "it's an idea, not an organization," didn't stop the government from rolling up antifa and throwing people in prison. It kept the American people in confusion when the government refused to roll up antifa and throw people in prison. Those are wildly different things. What kept antifa out of prison wasn't any cutesy little rhetorical tactic, it was having allies inside the federal government, including such high-ranking figures as Merrick Garland. It is critical to understand what antifa actually is. It isn't just a bunch of rowdy leftists. It is the clandestine street terror arm of the government to suppress political dissent among the American people and create showy news events to justify the latest action of the state.
Wish there was a decent comptetitor to them, like the Freikorps of Germany.

Unfortunately all we got are those glowie proudboy fags :(
 
If you re-read my post you’ll notice that I used the word ‘Europe’, because the US is not the Samson Option’s target.
Additionally, a retributive strike against neutral or at least non-hostile nations that ‘failed to protect’ you is a different situation to a mutual war.
Sometimes it’s worth reading a post a couple of times to gain an understanding of it before you start going off.
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You have a great day there, champ.
Be that as it may, that doesn’t change the point. Europe was right there with us and stood the most to lose if the Cold War went hot. So while I may be illiterate you are still retarded.
 
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Wish there was a decent comptetitor to them, like the Freikorps of Germany.

Unfortunately all we got are those glowie proudboy fags :(
Proud Boys had the unfortunate configuration of being all about American White Heritage and freedoms while being lead, for all intents and purposes, by a Cuban anchor baby. They were doomed the moment Gavin walked away.
 
Proud Boys had the unfortunate configuration of being all about American White Heritage and freedoms while being lead, for all intents and purposes, by a Cuban anchor baby. They were doomed the moment Gavin walked away.
They really fell apart after J6 got them scared. Everyone accused everyone else of being a glowie and now it's effectively three groups with no central leadership. Lolberts, Christian Nationalists, and White Nationalists without much in common besides clothing. If you run into a chapter it'll be one of those, but they don't get out much anymore because they were scared of getting gulaged for 4 years.
It was never coherent enough to really be a force besides during the 2020 election season.
 
I'm so tired of leftists using appeals to economic or crime statistics to explain that immigrants are actually fine and should be tolerated. The underlying problem I face in my life on this issue is gradually becoming an outsider in my own country, the country my ancestors helped build 400 years ago, and being surrounded by people that don't share my values or even language. If every single illegal Mexican really was a good boy that paid taxes and never committed a crime I would STILL want them gone at this point because there are just too fucking many, nothing against them as individuals but their hardship is not my problem.
 
I'm so tired of leftists using appeals to economic or crime statistics to explain that immigrants are actually fine and should be tolerated. The underlying problem I face in my life on this issue is gradually becoming an outsider in my own country, the country my ancestors helped build 400 years ago, and being surrounded by people that don't share my values or even language. If every single illegal Mexican really was a good boy that paid taxes and never committed a crime I would STILL want them gone at this point because there are just too fucking many, nothing against them as individuals but their hardship is not my problem.
The reality is that they don't give a shit.
No sane person can accept 10-30 million people 5-10% of the population being there illegally. 1 in 10 people is a criminal that is disrespecting the country's laws and not dealing with the bureaucracy like a normal person. Nobody can be in favor of such blatant disregard for society.

Instead they are against you for doing/wanting something to be done. They don't care about the illegals they just see them as ammunition to get a political win. If you could pry these people away from their political biases they would just admit they don't care.

Once you realise you are dealing with nihilistic trolls you can safely ignore and mock them because they will never get up and do anything, because that would require them caring.
 
Be that as it may, that doesn’t change the point.
Yes, it’s you that’s changing the point, because you’re arguing a completely different point to the one I was making.

I reiterate: it’s one thing to aim your weapons at an enemy. It’s another thing altogether to aim them at a third party and say ‘intercede on my behalf or I’ll kill you”.

My point is questioning the ethics of such an action. Your point is seemingly that Europe and the US have nothing to fear from the Samson Option because nukes were part of the Cold War, which is incredibly fucking retarded for glaringly obvious reasons. We are not the same.
 
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Progressives only tolerated democracy because they thought their utopia was inevitable.

The state of Utah legalized online wedding ceremonies in Jan 2020. If you register with Utah and pay a fee, the state of Utah will conduct a civil wedding ceremony for you via Zoom no matter your physical location. This means that an Israeli couple who wanted to get married civilly now are able to stay inside Israel and have an online wedding ceremony that will be recognized by Israel. It essentially neutered the power of the religious courts to regulate marriage because all you have to do now is pay 200 dollars and file some paperwork.

In a weird twist of events, the socially conservative state of Utah essentially legalized gay/secular/civil/interfaith marriages in Israel. I blame @WelperHelper99 personally.

now back to the US
Thanks for the explanation.
This is not what I voted for. What happened to ending the conflict, Donald?!
He tried, I knew neither side would accept it. Russia wouldn’t take it if it didn’t 100% favor them and Ukraine is not much different.
Your alternative is to vote for a party that would flood immigrants into the country 24/7.
Let's see do I take the side that wouldn't release epstein's docs and flood immigrants into the country
Or the side that wouldn't release epstein's docs and fights against flooding immigrants into the country.
Fuck the decision is so hard, sometimes you just gotta take the piss when it comes to supporting a candidate. Like I hate trump's israel dicksucking but he's far better than the opposition. Both sides would have never released these documents EVER so you pick the side that conforms more with your beliefs because the other side is going to fuck up your work life with immigrants.
Death to groypers.
 
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literally the entire history of Russia as a nation goes against this statement.
Wrong, we literally had an Orthodox Slavic ethnostate just a bit over a century ago. You guys didn't even have the common American identity until the 20th century due to the sheer amount of all sorts and flavours of European ethnic groups and different Christian sects and cults living and operating in your country.
 
Israel had nukes during the 6 day war and Yom Kippur war
Why are we letting religious fanatics in the middle east have nukes? They dont let inspectors in their country and have lied about having them in the first place. They place their missile defense systems next to civilian targets to use then as human shields.

I'm not going to get into how their intel network is subpar (reality check), their predisposition as an ethnogroup to be mentally ill (due to inbreeding), or how they dont even understand their own religion and the new Israel (covenant) between Jesus and God. Truly sad but the pendulum is swinging back.
 
The Proud Boys failed because they didn't have the backing of a major political party. A huge error on the right in those days was not grasping how leftist street terror is backed by the DNC and the parts of the state it controls, nor the significance of this. They thought they could mimic what leftists say their tactics are and get leftist results. But what leftists say they're doing and what they actually do are entirely different things. Look at who AOC says she is vs who she actually is, right down to how she was groomed for power via USAID-funded organizing, for a microcosm of this.

You guys didn't even have the common American identity until the 20th century

The American Civil War resolved outstanding questions of American identity. But we needed about a hundred years of near-zero immigration to digest the results, which we obviously didn't get. And the Russian Empire under the Romanovs wasn't a nation-state.
 
I'm so tired of leftists using appeals to economic or crime statistics to explain that immigrants are actually fine and should be tolerated. The underlying problem I face in my life on this issue is gradually becoming an outsider in my own country, the country my ancestors helped build 400 years ago, and being surrounded by people that don't share my values or even language. If every single illegal Mexican really was a good boy that paid taxes and never committed a crime I would STILL want them gone at this point because there are just too fucking many, nothing against them as individuals but their hardship is not my problem.
It ignores the external costs of mass migration anyways and the additional costs imposed onto literally everything. Costs of translators, social workers, extra teachers, insurance premiums, ER wait times, security measures. In the the UK there are 3,000 government workers alone tasked with dealing with cousin marriages. All of these are expensive, top-down measures dealing with the bottom quintile that have been imported into formerly high-trust countries.

At this point the Overton window needs to shift (and is shifting) from stopping illegal migration to remigration.

Once you realise you are dealing with nihilistic trolls you can safely ignore and mock them because they will never get up and do anything, because that would require them caring.
This is a huge issue- millennials and gen z have marinated in total nihilism for decades at this point, especially on the left coast. They don’t care, and won’t care about the country.
 
their hardship is not my problem.
The accepted solution is and has been white flight, it's sad to abandon areas that used to be nice, but nigger don't wash off.
Once you realise you are dealing with nihilistic trolls you can safely ignore and mock them because they will never get up and do anything, because that would require them caring.
There is an ICE agent in Texas with a new neck wound that may disagree.
 
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