Disaster With ‘Elio,’ Pixar Has Its Worst Box Office Opening Ever - Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/22/business/elio-pixar-box-office.html
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The original space adventure sold about $21 million in tickets at domestic theaters from Thursday night through Sunday, putting new pressure on the once-unstoppable studio.

Pixar knew that “Elio,” an original space adventure, would most likely struggle in its first weekend at the box office.

Animated movies based on original stories have become harder sells in theaters, even for the once-unstoppable Pixar. At a time when streaming services have proliferated and the broader economy is unsettled, families want assurance that spending the money for tickets will be worth it.
But the turnout for “Elio” was worse — much worse — than even Pixar had expected. The film, which cost at least $250 million to make and market, collected an estimated $21 million from Thursday evening through Sunday at theaters in the United States and Canada, according to Comscore, which compiles box office data.

It was Pixar’s worst opening-weekend result ever. The previous bottom was “Elemental,” which arrived to $30 million in 2023.

A month ago, when the “Elio” marketing campaign began to hit high gear, Pixar and its corporate owner, Disney, had hoped that “Elio” would, in the worst-case scenario, match the “Elemental” number. Instead, it fell 30 percent short.

In wide release overseas, “Elio” collected an additional $14 million, on a par with the initial international results for “Elemental.”
Quality did not appear to be a factor: Reviews for “Elio” were mostly positive, and ticket buyers gave the movie an A grade in CinemaScore exit polls. The Rotten Tomatoes audience score stood at 91 percent positive on Sunday.

Pixar has also recovered from a period during the coronavirus pandemic when Disney weakened the animation studio’s brand by using its films to build the Disney+ streaming service, bypassing theaters altogether. Last year, Pixar’s “Inside Out 2” was the No. 1 movie at the global box office. It sold $1.7 billion in tickets.

But original animated ideas have fallen out of favor at the box office, analysts said. Pixar is not alone. DreamWorks Animation’s “Ruby Gillman: Teenage Kraken” flatlined in 2023 with $5.5 million in opening-weekend sales. Illumination Animation’s “Migration” arrived to $12 million that year.

The problem for Pixar is that its originals remain wildly expensive. “Ruby Gillman” and “Migration” each cost 50 percent less than “Elio” did. (Pixar movies are still produced entirely in the United States, increasing labor costs. Some other studios have started to rely on overseas production.)
On Sunday, Disney said it hoped a broader audience would find “Elio” over the coming weeks. The company pointed to “Elemental,” which overcame weak initial sales to ultimately collect nearly $500 million worldwide.

Families have had a lot of theatrical options of late. Universal’s live-action “How to Train Your Dragon” remake, for instance, repeated as the No. 1 movie in North America over the weekend, with $37 million in ticket sales.

Second place went to the auteur horror sequel “28 Years Later” (Sony Pictures), which debuted to about $30 million. David A. Gross, a film consultant who publishes a newsletter on box office numbers, called that total “excellent.” Directed by Danny Boyle, “28 Years Later” cost about $60 million, not including marketing.

“Elio” was third.

Brooks Barnes covers all things Hollywood. He joined The Times in 2007 and previously worked at The Wall Street Journal.
 
While the idea is "wannabe space commander but kid" parody
An easy way to committed that would be having him draw a skull and bones or something on the patch to "make it cool" like a kid draws on a cast. Kid gets to have agency, visually displays his personality, and could add into the aliens mistaking it for some other symbol in their culture adding to the plot.

To continue my rant about poor character choices, a very common and very true saying in art is "the eyes are the window to the soul." If you've seen the movie District 9, the FX team went through multiple designs of rather disgusting looking aliens but emphasized that as long as the eyes came through that people would still emphasize with what normally they find repulsive.

Why bring that up? The main character has one eye removed, immediately crippling his ability to contect with a young audience but the main alien appears to have NO eyes. Who thought that was a good idea?? Why would you neuter both of your most important cheaters, especially when one is bland and the other repulsive to most people?

Have a giant bug man designed by real artists.
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I mean, its pretty obvious how the two got conflated... retards just branded everything they disliked "CalArts", ignoring that CalArts had been the go-to studio for American animators for decades before the beanmouth shit cropped up.

edit: For what its worth, modern beanmouth is a lot less awful than when people were just blatantly copying Stephen Universe. I do still notice it but its more the giant fucking teeth everyone has now rather than the "bean" edges of the lips these days.
 
I do still notice it but its more the giant fucking teeth everyone has now rather than the "bean" edges of the lips these days.
It's an unholy combo of beanmouth and psuedo-ghibli that results in grubhub.
The giant fucking detailed teeth thing is almost unmistakably psuedo-ghibli.
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Like I looked up "studio ghibli" on image search and this was one of the first results.

EDIT: Maybe this poster for a 2025 showing of ponyo that also showed up exemplifies this a bit better.

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Kid's rendered like a mystery meat beanmouth cgi creature trying to be a ghibli protag child.
 
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I mean, its pretty obvious how the two got conflated... retards just branded everything they disliked "CalArts", ignoring that CalArts had been the go-to studio for American animators for decades before the beanmouth shit cropped up.

edit: For what its worth, modern beanmouth is a lot less awful than when people were just blatantly copying Stephen Universe. I do still notice it but its more the giant fucking teeth everyone has now rather than the "bean" edges of the lips these days.
John K. did nothing wrong. (Except that.)
 
Something I talk about a lot is franchises having 'inertia'. That is, the success of any member of a franchise is at least partially dependent on the success of it's predecessors.

This is true of other things, as well. If a movie star is known for never being in a bad movie, any movie they're in is getting a bit of a head start. Studios as a whole have this phenomenon as well.

That doesn't mean something can't come out of the blue and be a success, just that there's factors in and around it that will affect it. Elio might be an Original Pixar, but it's still a Pixar movie, still set in the modern day with a normal (but diverse and special!) human child, still uses the same artstyle, still features some literally-who director overflowing with self-importance and thinking everyone wants to hear 'MY STORY'. In lieu of a franchise as reference, people look at everything else around it and conclude that the movie isn't any better than everything else Pixar's shit out.

You can divest yourself of that reputation if you know what you're doing and why you're doing it. Create something so radically different in all the right ways that people think all bets are off. The problem is that everyone in pixar (and disney as a whole) is so thin-skinned that you can count their teeth with their mouths closed; nobody can admit that left-wing politics, a dozen overlapping in-company pride organisations and vaguely brown directors that could get mugged by Hello Kitty are anything but an unambiguously good necessity.
 
It's an unholy combo of beanmouth and psuedo-ghibli that results in grubhub.
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Like I looked up "studio ghibli" on image search and this was one of the first results.

EDIT: Maybe this poster for a 2025 showing of ponyo that also showed up exemplifies this a bit better.
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to demoralize Hawaiians to leave their Failed State, since their Government's policies are already doing that without the need of Disney's 'help'. Cost of living is spiraling out of control, the State still remains very anti-industry friendly with projects such as the SuperFerry and Thirty Meter Telescope being cancelled, more and more taxes are being implemented since the State is Deep Blue Democratic (maybe even moreso than the likes of California, New York, and Illinois),
Colonies tend to be more extreme parodies of their home cultures.

Now imagine faggot New England on steroids mixed with a giant Indian reservation and you get the Third World cesspool that is Hawaii.
 
I just want 2D hand drawn animation back. Japan does it with anime. Disney could do it but nooooo Tiana flop-I mean....'didn't do as well as we hoped' and Pooh was a 60 minute film up against Deathly Hallows.

The production sketches in Tangled's ending credits....it would have been so much better 2D. I know they made that tv series into that but still. And do not get me started on what was supposed to be the Snow Queen but turned out to be the most overrated piece of shit...

There's a reason why Shelley Duvall’s fairy tale adaptations are so iconic. All three that I mentioned above (The Frog Prince, Rapunzel, and The Snow Queen) were adapted better in Faerie Tale Theatre. (By the way, originally she approached Disney but they wanted creative control. Shelley was like 'I think the fuck not' and went to Showtime instead. I like to think she cast a spell on Eisner to give him shitty luck as she went out the door.)
 
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I appreciate that the design itself is extremely alien and vicerally disgusting on an instinctual "insects bad" level, but they left the huge eyes in for sympathy points. That way you can make the rest of the alien as "alien you want" without compromise without making them too unlikable for the audience.
 
I appreciate that the design itself is extremely alien and vicerally disgusting on an instinctual "insects bad" level, but they left the huge eyes in for sympathy points. That way you can make the rest of the alien as "alien you want" without compromise without making them too unlikable for the audience.
Yes, that was what I was trying to convey in my rambling nonsense post. The artists knew that humans will sympathize with something "hideous" provided you give them the emotional touchstone of emotive eyes, which is why I think the decision in Elio to have not one but both main characters have limited eyes a baffling, self-crippling choice.
 
Atlantis the lost city is such an underrated movie. Its unironically one of my most favorite Disney films.
I don't think I've seen Atlantis more than twice--I know I saw in the movie theater (long since closed). It just wasn't that memorable though. I could look at the plot again, but it's basically "crew member betrays goofy protagonist in a twist that 9-year-old me really should've seen coming" and the resulting battle that follows. (Plus, I never really liked the "I Choose to Stay" trope as a child.)

Something I talk about a lot is franchises having 'inertia'. That is, the success of any member of a franchise is at least partially dependent on the success of it's predecessors.
That is 100% what Star Wars benefitted on (and by extension, most of the globohomo companies now). The Force Awakens did very well because it WAS Star Wars but by the time Solo: A Star Wars Story was released, The Last Jedi had burned that out. I think that the original plan was to release more "spin-off" movies as a bi-annual event but I think that they realized that "Disney Wars" had burned an ENORMOUS amount of goodwill up.

I just want 2D hand drawn animation back. Japan does it with anime. Disney could do it but nooooo Tiana flop-I mean....'didn't do as well as we hoped' and Pooh was a 60 minute film up against Deathly Hallows.

The production sketches in Tangled's ending credits....it would have been so much better 2D. I know they made that tv series into that but still. And do not get me started on what was supposed to be the Snow Queen but turned out to be the most overrated piece of shit...

There's a reason why Shelley Duvall’s fairy tale adaptations are so iconic. All three that I mentioned above (The Frog Prince, Rapunzel, and The Snow Queen) were adapted better in Faerie Tale Theatre. (By the way, originally she approached Disney but they wanted creative control. Shelley was like 'I think the fuck not' and went to Showtime instead. I like to think she cast a spell on Eisner to give him shitty luck as she went out the door.)
Fundamentally, I think The Princess and the Frog is a flawed film because they wanted to just make a black Disney Princess first and foremost, and everything else came later. Yes, this was pre-BLM and it wasn't woke, with the real problem being trying too hard to be a Disney Renaissance film without understanding that you couldn't just put in songs and comic relief side characters and expect it to go over the same way as it did with films released (at the time) 15 years prior. (By the way, Eisner was let go back in 2005--and in retrospect, the worst of what Eisner did wasn't nearly as bad as what Iger did and is doing).
 
which is why I think the decision in Elio to have not one but both main characters have limited eyes a baffling, self-crippling choice.
One-eyed characters aren't uncommon, but they're still liked because they were expressive to make up for that limitation. Pleakley is beloved for being a goofball despite his alien appearance because he was a character actor, essentially, and he could've easily failed to win over the audience. Everything I've seen Elio in has him looking like the same dopey retard, and that's boring and not to mention uncomfortable how he apparently has no other emotions, if any.

Also Elio is literally introduced to the audience crying like a bitch. Name a likable character who was introduced like that, I'm serious. Oh, Emperor Kuzco was introduced as a scared, weepy llama? Lol that was played for laughs, and it was highly likely exaggerated when we eventually returned to that beginning scene and he was mopey, but told himself off because there was actual character growth. You have to earn the audience's respect before you can show your character crying, because no one wants to spend time with a weakling who doesn't grow.

Fundamentally, I think The Princess and the Frog is a flawed film because they wanted to just make a black Disney Princess first and foremost, and everything else came later. Yes, this was pre-BLM and it wasn't woke, with the real problem being trying too hard to be a Disney Renaissance film without understanding that you couldn't just put in songs and comic relief side characters and expect it to go over the same way as it did with films released (at the time) 15 years prior.
Also wasn't the movie more of Naveem's story than Tiana's? Was kind of an interesting inversion of the Disney princess formula, but marketing wanted to focus on the princess stuff.
 
Also wasn't the movie more of Naveem's story than Tiana's? Was kind of an interesting inversion of the Disney princess formula, but marketing wanted to focus on the princess stuff.
It should have been Naveen's story, it would have made much more sense but no. Tiana is the main character trough out but her wants, needs, faults and choices don't really go with the plot or the villain so it falls flat. It's not a bad movie, especially if you're someone who pays more attention to the characters than the story, but it's on the weaker side.
 
I honestly like the Treasure Planet approach

mostly 2d but with the 3d in places where it makes sense. Too bad that TP flopped...I dunno why it's a great movie one of my favorites in fact.
It was released the same exact time as Harry Potter and The Chamber of Secrets and got raped at the box office. Disney wasn't doing too hot at that time since Pixar wasn't yet fully owned by them yet. Atlantis also got the same kind of treatment although it did far better than Treasure Planet. IIRC they didn't have that much promotion for the movies beyond Disney channel and kind of just dumped it into theaters at the end of the year.

It's not bad, but they were trying to appeal to boys in the early 00s after the princess flicks of the 90s. Pixar smashed them at the box office and with critics every single time until acquisition.
 
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