Poppy Diabolique / Jessica Routhier / Joshua Routhier / Bryce Routhier / Zena & Poppy: Wholesome Degenerates - Middle aged crazy tranny, his polycule of enablers and his BPD filled breakups. Abusive Parent. Fakes having multiple personalities. Serial Sex Pest. Grooms minors and SA victims with furry porn. Fired from their job for being terminally online

Happy fourth Willy!
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Also, here’s some advice to help you in these troubling times Willy:
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Karellen said:
Double post but Saige is streaming in an hour (5:30pm ET)
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It's groundhog's day. Saige is doing all this over again.


We've done this all before.

It's important to keep a snapshot of who she was so she doesn't repeat bad mistakes. She does not stand by most of what they said. Poppy and Zena did it all with info withholding. Saige urges people using Poppy and Zena as a replacement for friends. Get the full picture. But she isn't going to make anyone choose sides.

Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/XAQ8p2rP9G
 
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ÁchtunaRoll said:
It's groundhog's day. Saige is doing all this over again.
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My completely unfiltered and genuine reaction to Saige's return:
The title track from the album of the same name, considered to be one of the greatest progressive rock songs ever, from one of the greatest progressive rock albums ever. It is 18 minutes and 43 seconds long… Read More
[I. The Solid Time of Change 00:00-06:05]

[Instrumental Intro 00:00-04:02]

[Verse 1]
A seasoned witch could call you from the depths of your disgrace
And rearrange your liver to the solid mental grace
And achieve it all with music that came quickly from afar
Then taste the fruit of man recorded losing all against the hour

And assessing points to nowhere, leading every single one
A dewdrop can exalt us like the music of the sun
And take away the plain in which we move
And choose the course you're running

[Chorus]
Down at the edge, round by the corner
Not right away, not right away
Close to the edge, down by a river
Not right away, not right away

[Guitar Solo]

[Verse 2]
Crossed the line around the changes of the summer
Reaching out to call the colour of the sky
Passed around a moment clothed in mornings
Faster than we see
Getting over all the time I had to worry
Leaving all the changes far from far behind
We relieve the tension only to find out the master's name

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[Chorus]
Down at the end, round by the corner
Close to the edge, just by the river
Seasons will pass you by
I get up, I get down
Now that it's all over and done
Now that you find, now that you're whole

[II. Total Mass Retain 06:05-08:29]

[Verse 3]
My eyes convinced, eclipsed with the younger moon attained with love
It changed as almost strained amidst clear manna from above
I crucified my hate and held the word within my hand
There's you, the time, the logic or the reasons we don't understand

Sad courage claimed the victims, standing still for all to see
As armoured movers took, approached to overlook the sea
There since the cord, the license or the reasons we understood will be

[Chorus]
Down at the end, close by a river
Close to the edge, round by the corner
Close to the end, down by the corner
Down at the edge, round by a river


[Verse 4]
Sudden call shouldn't take away the startled memory
All in all, the journey takes you all the way
As apart from any reality that you've ever seen and known
Guessing problems only to deceive the mention
Passing paths that climb halfway into the void
As we cross from side to side, we hear the total mass retain

[Chorus]
Down at the edge, round by the corner
Close to the end, down by a river
Seasons will pass you by
I get up, I get down

[Instrumental Outro]

[III. I Get Up, I Get Down 08:29-14:14]

[Instrumental Intro 08:29-10:09]

[Verse 5]
In her white lace
You could clearly see the lady sadly looking
Saying that she'd take the blame
For the crucifixion of her own domain


[Chorus]
I get up, I get down
I get up, I get down

[Verse 6]
Two million people barely satisfy
Two hundred women, watch one woman cry
Too late

[Verse 7]
The eyes of honesty can achieve
(She would coil their said amusement of her story)
How many millions do we deceive each day?
(Asking only interest could be laid upon the children of her domain)

[Chorus]
I get up, I get down
I get up, I get down

[Verse 8]
In charge of who is there in charge of me
(She could clearly see the lady sadly looking)
Do I look on blindly and say I see the way?
(Saying that she'd take the blame for the crucifixion of her own domain)

[Verse 9]
The truth is written all along the page
(She would coil their said amusement of her story)
How old will I be before I come of age
For you?
(Asking only interest could be laid upon the children of her domain)

[Chorus]
I get up, I get down
I get up, I get down
I get up, I get down

[Instrumental Break 12:15-12:49]
[Organ Interlude]

[Chorus]
I get up, I get down
I get up, I get down

[Instrumental Outro]
[Organ Interlude]

[IV. Seasons of Man 14:14-18:41]

[Instrumental Intro 14:14-15:55]
[Organ Solo]

[Verse 10]
The time between the notes relates the color to the scenes
A constant vogue of triumphs dislocate man, so it seems
And space between the focus shape ascend knowledge of love
As song and chance develop time, lost social temperance rules above
Ah, ah
Then according to the man who showed his outstretched arm to space
He turned around and pointed, revealing all the human race
I shook my head and smiled a whisper, knowing all about the place

[Bridge]
On the hill we viewed the silence of the valley
Called to witness cycles only of the past
And we reach all this with movements in between the said remark

[Chorus]
Close to the edge, down by a river
Down at the end, round by the corner
Seasons will pass you by

[Bridge]
Now that it's all over and done
Called to the seed, right to the sun
Now that you find, now that you're whole

[Outro]
Seasons will pass you by
I get up, I get down
I get up, I get down
I get up, I get down

[Instrumental Outro]
 
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Do you think there are breaks in the fighting when Poppy FAKE switches altars? Or does Zena keep flapping their violent bingo wings on Pepper too?

Sorry! Pepper can’t be found in headspace, guys. She’s been taken by CPS.

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Karellen said:
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Bonus: Tipster showed up during Saige’s stream.
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I'm so glad Tipster's still out there grinding to be the best simp he can be, truly entertaining stuff.


I just needed to laugh at Tipster before I started writing this for real.

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Here goes:

The nice thing about the Internet is that while shit gets stuck on here forever, people's attention spans will move on. With a little restraint, you could just fuck off from a place forever, and people will slowly start to forget about you. They might get upset, they might even start some friction just to keep you around a little longer. if you stay committed though, you can disappear for all practical purposes.

And when one fucks up royally, doing exactly that is a solid option. But it's not their only choice, and it might not even be the best choice to make. I know I'm replying to a NW/Dusk screencap, but I give props to both Dusk and Saige for deciding that the connections they made here were in fact valuable to them, and that they've decided to stick around and operate with more transparency with people who, even though they've never met, are or were an important to them at one point.

I guess you could say that conducting most of your social life online is a sign that you feel a need to hide something from IRL. If I were to accuse Dusk and Saige of that though, I'd be projecting. I don't know about their situations and while I'm instinctively dubious of Saige, I think what both her and Dusk are doing right now is fine. Right now, the only person I'm more bothered with is myself. I've been sitting on something for over a week and the back and forth about whether to fully open up about this is just getting cumbersome. So fuck it, I've meandered for three paragraphs and I need to rip this band aid off.

When I quit drinking alcohol, there was a step 2: stop abusing my ADHD meds. Around the end of April/beginning of May, I took that step 2. I'm opening up about this one because it had much greater impact on my KF conduct than drinking. I usually waited until after I was done shitposting to start drinking, but a lot of my old posts were written with my brain pumping out an absurd amount of dopamine. I guess there were worse choices I could have made while abusing drugs than high effort shitposting, and thankfully most of that shit was funny. I don't think the fact that my posts were successful enabled my habit, though. I think having a space in my life where I didn't feel anxiety, guilt, and shame so intensely might have helped me make more level headed choices IRL.

So I guess since I'm doing another post about addiction, I need to update how I keep score: 9 months sober, 2 months clean. And I guess "clean" here just means following the fucking doctor's instructions on the meds bottle.

I remember at the end of my drinking post, I did an aside to NW. I don't think an encore of that is necessary, but I do want to express that I'm so happy NW's made such resilient progress and is continuing to do so. However, there's another option that appeals to me.

So, without further ado, here's my actual response to Saige's return
Hi Saige,

You sound a lot better here, although I'm instinctively dubious of your intent in coming back into the limelight. But even assuming the worst, a better looking facade indicates some level of actual progress deeper within, and I'm happy for you there.

I definitely went much harder in the paint bullying you than anyone else in this sphere. Sure, I've done wayyyyyyy more photoshops of Poppy, but I didn't feel as much of an urge to be mean or scathing to Poppy. Something about you pissed me off, and I think with the experience I have now I can shed light on what that was.

I always felt that there was a similar process fueling both your and my behavior, We both had naturally difficult emotionalities that were being exacerbated by some form of extreme abuse we were experiencing. Mine was self inflicted, but a good share of your abuse came from Poppy. I understood that just fine. I think what made me aggravated was that as I was trying to either correct my behavior, channel it into something positive (Note: I can understand if you don't see my shitposting as positive and if so, I can agree to disagree), or at the very least keep it contained. From you I saw a lot of externalizing of responsibility that rubbed me the wrong way. I was fucked up too, and I felt like the attitude you had about it was wrong, and the fact that you were trying to spread that mentality to others made me genuinely angry.

But I think you made a good choice in taking a step back from this stuff, and it paid off. I didn't see any redirection of blame and it made me genuinely happy that you warmly greeted Dusk in the beginning of that clip. I feel like you're making good steps. I hope you continue to do so.

Now onto addressing my actions: I could offer an apology here, but I actually feel like a thanks is more appropriate. You were reading the thread and aware of me, and all things considered I think you were a relatively good sport about it.

I kinda feel like ripping into you served as a task that grounded me while I was sorting out some extremely chaotic emotions: I was using booze and pills to replace my circadian rhythm, so in a way I'm kind of glad that I chose "become an overly invested internet troll" over a lot of other choices I could have made.

Whether or not you accept this thanks, let me make it clear that at this moment, I'm ultimately glad to see you again. And that, ostensibly, whatever negative presence I served in your life didn't stop you from moving forward.

Thanks again,
Beefus
 
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Thanks @Big Beefus. Definitely glad you’re stepping in the right direction.

I echo a lot of what you said. I think what’s difficult is that after being on this site for a decade, few, if any, lolcows that I folllow(ed) have ever changed for the better. So im at least likely to think that many of these people cannot and will not change.

For as sad as this story is in total (Spawns abandonment, Saige’s isolation, Noehflake getting dragged across social media for no reason, what Dormiyu went through), there are some bright spots.

Nightwyld getting better is one of the better stories I’ve heard. I’m very happy he got away from Poppy and Zena and went to real therapy as he seems to be thriving.

Saige getting away was honestly not on my bingo card; I thought it would be P&Z dumping her. That said, she has claimed to have forgiven several people she’s transgressed. She does seem happier in her social media and there haven’t been any spiraling posts lately so maybe she is doing better. And really except for the post in January and a few vague posts, she’s exited this drama fairly well. I wasn’t able to watch the stream so I don’t know if she went into anymore detail about the drama but she seemed to want to move past it.

Part of me in watching these people wants to scream “what more information did you need to have to know that Poppy & Zena were bad people?!” Ill never understand why several people stanned them for so long when anyone could tell these two were toxic.

But if they’re willing to make amends, take accountability for their actions done (I hope Spawn got apologies most of all, but also Luxander too), we shouldn’t shame them for their past choices.

I don’t want their actions swept under the rug either, and that is something Nightwyld and Saige will have to live with. I hope they’ve learned something from this and will not repeat these mistakes in the future.

ETA: as a token of good will (and because the damn thing finally works without crashing), I’ve updated the OP based on recent events.
 
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CWC spells Master Duel said:
So Patch got asked a question about her abortion again.
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This is one of the most annoying characters in the thread imo. Named muh abortion. I don’t doubt that it was traumatic because of the loss of the life inside her but the way she goes on about it and tries to blame her partners for not “stepping up” without any kind of agency for her own actions makes me roll my eyes. You can’t let multiple deadbeats creampie you and act shocked when they remain deadbeats after you’re knocked up.
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Twisty is getting in on the death threats now too
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ETA: Poppy is still banned and Wyles got banned finally
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ETA2: Poppy is back and was last seen malding about people calling fake tits fake tits.
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lol I thought these surgeries were self empowering! Poppy with the giant neon sign again that says, “it hurts when you poke here”. Fridges don’t look good with bolt-ons, no amount of handwringing can remedy that one.
 
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