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>We aren't in a ground war with Russia, and Trump is seeking to distance ourselves from involvement in Slavic brother wars
He said in his meeting with BiBi yesterday we're probably sending weapons to Ukraine, again. Not good. But Trump talks a lot and we'll have to wait and see what happens.
 
He said in his meeting with BiBi yesterday we're probably sending weapons to Ukraine, again. Not good. But Trump talks a lot and we'll have to wait and see what happens.
Trump said mostly defensive weapons, I'm guessing AA stuff. Possibly because Ukrainians can't be trusted with anything more than that and not start WW3, but also because I think he wants to end the war with a peace deal, and not a total Russian Victory.
 
Oh god this is a bad deflect
"oy vey, you're really asking me about that shady pedophile with ties to intelligence agencies who died under mysterious circumstances and who we released a bunch of obvious bullshit on last week? why do you even care? he only had 1000+ victims and ties to every powerful man in the country, it's a nothing burger, This Jeffrey Epstein character probably didn't even exist! just go back to sleep, goyim."
 
Yup I'm a pretty staunch Trump supporter but there's no way around it. The botching of the Epstein shit is completely indefensible and is going to hurt him politically.

Now every single attack ad is going to accuse Trump and his allies of caring more about protecting powerful people than children and there's some validity to that unfortunately.

Very disappointing.
 
democrats arent going to run epstein based ads, their own track record is just as bad on this case.
If you actually believe that you are either incredibly naive or don't understand how politics work.

The DNC was running attack ads accusing Trump of being a rapist when they had half a dozen active serial rapists in their ranks.

Voters, especially progressive voters are fucking retarded.
 
I'm convinced the Epstein file would implicate Trump, a lot of politicians (uniparty with a lean Democrat) and Israel.

I don't think it implicates Trump at all. Perhaps if he were on as many flights as a certain other POTUS I would believe it, but I think Trump figured out exactly what kind of setup Epstein was running and quickly decided to stay far away from it. There are probably a lot of people that Trump considers friends, allies, or otherwise useful to him who would be implicated and not worth losing to take down a DNC that is already on the back foot and losing anyway. Why sacrifice your own pieces for no real gain and stir up all manner of other shit that creates outcomes no one can control, let alone predict?

I don't believe that every person who went to Epstein island was fucking underage girls or even knew it was happening. If you were running that kind of operation you'd want to have a lot of people (in particular famous ones) who went there, did nothing, saw nothing, and can honestly say as much to the press or other people. I think a lot of people who did end up having sex with underage girls did so unknowingly after being plied with alcohol and other drugs so that they could be set up and blackmailed.

Someone like Bill Gates gets invited out to hang out and party with other wealthy people and the first few times it's just that. Some time later, he's partying and former Miss Guatemala blows him under the table, but she's not underage and the worst he did is cheat on his wife. Eventually he comes back again and gets slipped something and set up with an underage girl and now he's caught. Sure there are certainly some that heard the rumors and sought Epstein out, but not everyone was like that and while they were just partying and having a good time they probably brought some of their other rich friends as well.

Of course Trump doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs. The only way you can trap someone like Trump is dangling it in front of him and hoping that he's stupid enough to take the bait. Someone like Trump that's in real estate and has to deal with people every day isn't going to be duped by something like that. If Trump wanted to bang hot women he wouldn't need someone like Epstein to facilitate it.

Too many other people are wrapped up in it though. Some of them are people that Trump wouldn't piss on if they were on fire, while others may be those he would not wished to see harmed in the fallout. It doesn't end there, though. Some of the people caught up in the Epstein scandal are no doubt part of other things which have nothing to do with Epstein, but which they might expose to save their own ass in some kind of deal. Perhaps in a hundred years when everyone involved has been dead and buried for decades the truth will come out, but no one wants to pull the threads on this when they don't and can't possibly know where it will end.

Anyone who may with all good intentions go into the investigation with the intent of revealing the truth may come to realize what doing so would actually cause to happen or how much chaos it would result in and decide not to. To some degree that kind of person isn't capable of getting anywhere close to the reins of power in the first place. Any honorable bastard that might find their way to them by some sheer accident and who chooses to act on principle above all else winds up like Ned Stark. Instead they keep it buried and console their conscious by saying that at least it's been shut down and isn't happening anymore.

We probably shouldn't be concerned with Epstein island. Instead we should be looking for its replacement. Like any other vice, arresting one pimp or pusher doesn't destroy the industry.
 
doing some research on epstein and everything i come up with is really confusing. I had an idea of the case that I thought made sense (epstein was an Israeli agent for Aman) but digging through the actual evidence, it makes absolutely no sense and just brings up more questions

Why was Epstein having meetings with Ehud Barak and Noam Chomsky to discuss Palestine when Barak was out of politics at the time? Why would Netanyahu openly expose Barak's links to Epstein in a 2018 ad? This is way too much action for a Mossad agent who is supposed to be quietly in the background blackmailing people. The right wing media in Israel has accused Barak of being the head of the Israeli deep state and Netanyahu has publicly accused this deep state of attacking him.

Epstein was openly a leftist but the question is how much of a leftist. Having the most left wing PM of the last 30 years and one of the biggest leftist thinkers of the 20th century discuss I/P with him doesn't sound like something an asset would do.

I came in thinking he was an asset and come out completely confused

I dont think its necessarily correct to paint him as a leftist. Look at the plethora of political stripes he hang out with; he was into power, not partisanship. Wasn't there allegations of Roger Stone roaming Little Saint James and sexually assaulting people?

Epstein's helicopter was owned by Israel was it not? At the same time, he 100% stole large portions of fellow jew Leslie Wexner's fortune out from under him.

I have to imagine Epstein and Ghislaine were up to similar shady shit her shithead father was doing and worse. He wanted power first and foremost and was likely playing as many sides as possible. Just like Maxwell Sr.
 
All Liberal types who want to teach kids sex all have that curly hair. Looks like Rebecca Sugar
You can tell how fucked up a woman is by the way they take care of their hair.

Obvious warning signs being:
  • dyed whatever color of the rainbow they choose
  • butchered to death where they look like a dude
Personally I never liked the broccoli look on women or really curly hair in general. It just reminds me of that specific style from the 80's which I never thought looked good and just made them look older than what they really were.
 
Yup I'm a pretty staunch Trump supporter but there's no way around it. The botching of the Epstein shit is completely indefensible and is going to hurt him politically.

Now every single attack ad is going to accuse Trump and his allies of caring more about protecting powerful people than children and there's some validity to that unfortunately.

Very disappointing.
Just ignore it then.

You gets the perks of ignoring it and the perks of pissing people off.
 
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