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Should be a wild four years.

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However, and read this very slowly: they are not deporting any significant number of immigrants. Self-deportation is a meaningless propaganda term. The end goal is to be able to Gitmo and strip citizenship from anyone in the US, meaning (you).
People in this thread are incapable of differentiating between the "trump is literally hitler and hispanic people are the jews" fantasy and the conclusion that you came to.
 
if biden did this during his term everyone on here would sperg out
There's been a lot of this going around lately and it's unfortunately true. But a lot if people don't care and aren't ashamed about that either. People are pretty proud to admit that they would support everything Biden's administration did if it was Trump doing it.
 
See, this ties into the post I made a couple days ago replying to someone claiming that we should forget about Epstein and focus on finding the next pedo ring. I responded pointing out that it would eventually be ignored with the same reasoning. We have evidence of this happening time and time again between Pizzagate being memoryholed before Epstein, and cases like the McMartin Pre School being memoryholed before that. It happens time and time again. I think we should stop letting them memoryhole this shit.
Absolutely. I think with Epstein the pedo stuff is a feint for the financial stuff. The moneyed elites aren't worried as much about getting caught fucking a teenager, that's par for the course for them and legal in most of the world, but money laundering and shit? Dodging the taxman? That gets them in trouble. Pizzagate though? Those aren't 16 and 17 year olds. Those are kids duct taped to a table. "Random crazy" puts a bullet through a wall exactly into their hard drives? Pedo symbolism all over the place? Coded language about pizza parties and hot tubs and children? That's what covering up a network of actual pedos looks like. Les Wexner runs L brands, he didn't need Epstein to hook him up with teenagers.
 
People in this thread are incapable of differentiating between the "trump is literally hitler and hispanic people are the jews" fantasy and the conclusion that you came to.

IDK. I think a fair portion of MAGA is dissatisfied and abandoning Donny. Iran. Now Epstein. I also know a few people smart enough to see the deportations are a ruse, where a Dem throws up the gates and let's in 20 million then the Repub pretends to deport 500k.

But any MAGA left, from the people I know in my personal life, are just dishonest, abject liars. They don't care what's true or what's happening. They're so demoralized and use to losing, they'd call getting fucked in the ass winning if they were told it was winning.
 
I'm not 100% on how to archive it, but this twitter thread is probably the most logical take on Epstein.
The initial story was that Epstein was a blackmailer, probably Mossad, luring elites into sexually compromising situations, & then controlling them w/proof of their crimes. [...] Simple logic, as well as cursory familiarity with blackmail, will tell you the initial story is false. The issue w/blackmailing hostile assets is that they hate you & tell their friends. It's virtually impossible for the same blackmailer to work their way through an entire political circle, b/c people realize what's going on & shut them out.
This guy is trying to pseud his way into believing kompromat was never a thing. Let alone a profitable or beneficial thing set up in an underhanded way, perhaps by Israel. He also seems to believe our elected leaders are just too smart to fall for a certain trap if one of their peers was ever caught in it. "They would never fall for that again" he insists, moments prior to reminding everyone that Epstein did things to earn his good graces with powerful people, such as working with Adnan Khashoggi.
[...] The reason for the coverup, then, is obvious. Tons of rich & powerful people, foreign govts, & so on would be implicated if the CIA (not FBI) files on Epstein were released. Maybe there would be some sexually embarrassing stuff, but far more likely, is that a variety of financial crimes would be exposed, threatening both the personal wealth of rich insiders, as well as illict money networks intel agencies use to finance their black ops.
He also seems to think any network used to launder money will be around indefinitely. Evidence of that is even less likely to exist than some unholy scroll listing all the wealthy child-rapists Epstein enabled. It's not too long ago we saw the Biden administration perform some very tactical detonations in Ukraine, all for the purposes of hiding evidence of biological research facilities (and keeping them out of Putin's hands), so if something that incriminating ever existed it was incinerated ages ago. The only loose end was probably Epstein himself, who was absolutely murdered to keep him from confessing.
 
Dem throws up the gates and let's in 20 million then the Repub pretends to deport 500k.
pretty sure current deportation stats are at 120k o algo, to be fair though we'd still be at 40k deportations at the least when you look at the stats during the biden era; my prediction is that at the most we'll deport 1 million people and maybe a million or so more will leave voluntarily by the end of the term if even that. ICE is going to become less and less capable as people work together to undermine them.
 
Over 100 people are dead in a natural disaster in Texas and you guys wanna obsess about a pedophile?
You are fuckign mentally exhausting. if you dont' like something that is being discussed, shut the fuck up and talk about something else. You have this faggoty habit of trying to police what is being talked about, and it's long since worn thin.

I'm tired of hearing about it too, i've stated my opinion on it a couple times, but people are pissed off about being lied too, people are pissed we were sold this bullshit bill of goods, and you have social media trying to shit on the people that are upset about it. Let people be pissed off, you aren't some thread monitor. Report them if you are a bitch.

Funny thing happened, will stancil got a hit on the local news, if someone wants to archive it, here's the nitter link to the post. https://nitter.poast.org/AlfredAlfer77/status/1943349444226736535#m

Danukla did a second channel video on it as well.
 
IDK. I think a fair portion of MAGA is dissatisfied and abandoning Donny. Iran. Now Epstein. I also know a few people smart enough to see the deportations are a ruse, where a Dem throws up the gates and let's in 20 million then the Repub pretends to deport 500k.

But any MAGA left, from the people I know in my personal life, are just dishonest, abject liars. They don't care what's true or what's happening. They're so demoralized and use to losing, they'd call getting fucked in the ass winning if they were told it was winning.
I feel bad for anyone that actually believes this. You are absolutely reddit-tier delusional.
 
IDK. I think a fair portion of MAGA is dissatisfied and abandoning Donny. Iran. Now Epstein.
Don't forget Ukraine too. Trump saying we are going to keep funding the Ukraine war and giving them weapons is a huge betrayal and almost no one is talking about it.

Over 100 people are dead in a natural disaster in Texas and you guys wanna obsess about a pedophile?
We get it, you're Trump's top guy, so much so you just parrot the exact shit he says without any thought behind it. Why the fuck would we be talking about the floods in a politics thread? Isn't there a natural disasters thread for that shit?
 
I feel bad for anyone that actually believes this. You are absolutely reddit-tier delusional.

Very well reasoned. Great argument.

I'm going off every MAGA I know, some of which were very hardcore. Even the most hardcore either aren't thrilled or are starting to get skeptical. Many are unhappy. It's funny to hear people saying, since I've been saying it since 2017, that he's controlled opposition.
 
This guy is trying to pseud his way into believing kompromat was never a thing. Let alone a profitable or beneficial thing set up in an underhanded way, perhaps by Israel. He also seems to believe our elected leaders are just too smart to fall for a certain trap if one of their peers was ever caught in it. "They would never fall for that again" he insists, moments prior to reminding everyone that Epstein did things to earn his good graces with powerful people, such as working with Adnan Khashoggi.
Do you honestly think the rich and powerful wouldn't wave each other off if someone had blackmail on them? Do you think Les Wexner couldn't afford someone to put a bullet in Epstein and that he needed Epstein to procure teenagers for him? Money is less sexy than fucking underage girls, but now no one is looking at the financial end of Epstein. "No, it must be pedophilic blackmail," even though most of the people involved could have just fucked underage girls in Europe where the age of consent is lower and it's legal. And no one is following the money at all while everyone is sperging about pedos.
 
Meme is officially gay
it's also very lazy, they didn't even bother to edit the actual meme and had an AI do it
This guy is trying to pseud his way into believing kompromat was never a thing. Let alone a profitable or beneficial thing set up in an underhanded way, perhaps by Israel. He also seems to believe our elected leaders are just too smart to fall for a certain trap if one of their peers was ever caught in it. "They would never fall for that again" he insists, moments prior to reminding everyone that Epstein did things to earn his good graces with powerful people, such as working with Adnan Khashoggi.
My take on it is something I've already said in this thread
TPTB have multiple people that they work with to get their child sex slaves; like I've said before, he obviously tried to blackmail the wrong people and then everyone dropped his ass, put him in jail, and then he died of an involuntary hanging to become an example to all the other dealers. It's not that he could bring down the whole system by himself, rather, it is that (((they))) felt that he needed to be checked for his activities to avoid all of the other suppliers/dealers whatever from trying to do the same thing which would become an uncontrollable mess leading to it all just crashing down one day.
 
what is your prediction for the number of people that will be deported by the end of his term?

Very well reasoned. Great argument.

I'm going off every MAGA I know, some of which were very hardcore. Even the most hardcore either aren't thrilled or are starting to get skeptical. Many are unhappy. It's funny to hear people saying, since I've been saying it since 2017, that he's controlled opposition.

Both of these /pol/tards are trying demoralization tactics and you would be a fool to believe them or engage with them further.
 
Some of us don't really even care that much about either Epstein or the list. We just want to know why people in the Trump administration made such a big deal about it before and now expect the rest of us to pretend they never made a big deal about it now.
I wonder if the whole "We have the list!" thing was less for us plebs and more for the elite who are actually ON that list. Kind of a, "play nice or else" thing. Look at how much power Trump is wielding on a global scale this time around. Perhaps this sort of thing is why.
Over 100 people are dead in a natural disaster in Texas and you guys wanna obsess about a pedophile?
We can do both.
 
Both of these /pol/tards are trying demoralization tactics and you would be a fool to believe them or engage with them further.
>my argument is correct because reasons and they're both actually demoralization agents :smug:
The question I gave you was literally just me asking for you to provide an approximation for the number of people that you think will be deported by the end of his term, your brain shuts down the moment someone is somewhat anti-trump
 
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