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Yes. Chad yes. Your point you turbo gacha sperg? Show me your hand you filthy Lamanite nigger, I bet it's Mexican! I love America, this is the chosen land bitch!
Pretty rich coming from the guy getting his sausage fingers handdoxed. Blue-eyed Anglo, heathen. Go back to beating off to Saber R34, I'll work on producing more white children.
Surprisingly, none of that is in Tokyo either. Especially with all the Indians, Chinese, and Muslims ruining it like the Mexicans ruined LA
I know you're Mexican so critical thinking doesn't come naturally, but let me provide a practical example for anyone who hasn't been to Japan or the US and still believes this kind of demoralization.

My local supermarket has Hennessy, hair products, and basically anything melanated individuals have a propensity for walking out of the store with behind plexiglass, and you need to spend five minutes flagging down a wagie to get it for you. In fact, most liquor stores downtown have anything valued over $50 behind the counter. I don't live in a particularly violent city and I haven't ever visited LA, but I have lived by Chicago. Chicago is by far the worst city I've ever been around. It's gotten so bad that even in daylight I had family members warning me about parking downtown when visiting. In fact, when I was a teenager, I distinctly remember a front-page article in the Tribune talking about how there were 0 violent deaths the previous day (not injuries from shootings though - just deaths).

I've lived in Japan within the last two years. Tokyo is, admittedly, the most brown city in the country, but even compared to an average-sized Midwest city it's virtually an ethnostate. If you go even 30 minutes outside big cites, the number of gaijin drops dramatically to the point that it approaches zero, not at least due to the fact that they stop plastering English everywhere. In Kyoto, I visited an unmanned ice cream shop. Yes - unmanned, as in, there was no one working the store. They had chest freezers and a kiosk where you scan the item to pay, and you leave. The only security was the crime prevention cameras that are already all over the cities. The closest I've ever been in danger from someone in Japan was passing by two Japanese guys with face tats.

So, no, I don't think your average American metropolis is comparable to Japan.

edit: to be clear, I have no desire to reside in Japan long-term. It has its own issues and I don't want my kids to growing up as second-class citizens. That being said, it's difficult not to look at how they developed and what they did differently compared to the US.
 
I've lived in Japan within the last two years. Tokyo is, admittedly, the most brown city in the country, but even compared to an average-sized Midwest city it's virtually an ethnostate. If you go even 30 minutes outside big cites, the number of gaijin drops dramatically to the point that it approaches zero, not at least due to the fact that they stop plastering English everywhere. In Kyoto, I visited an unmanned ice cream shop. Yes - unmanned, as in, there was no one working the store. They had chest freezers and a kiosk where you scan the item to pay, and you leave. The only security was the crime prevention cameras that are already all over the cities. The closest I've ever been in danger from someone in Japan was passing by two Japanese guys with face tats.
Yeah, Japan was by far the safest country I've ever been to. We landed in Tokyo at midnight and were surprised that no one was out and about. My dad was worried about letting my brother wander around Tokyo by himself but stopped worrying after the second day because of how safe it is.
 
I know you're Mexican so critical thinking doesn't come naturally, but let me provide a practical example for anyone who hasn't been to Japan or the US and still believes this kind of demoralization.
Besides being white and not Mexican in the slightest, I lived in Japan for several years and still talk to a lot of my friends there. It’s not demoralization, you’re just in mad cope mode
 
Besides being white and not Mexican in the slightest, I lived in Japan for several years and still talk to a lot of my friends there. It’s not demoralization, you’re just in mad cope mode
I've said before that I don't think it's impervious to the same factors that are currently causing the fall of the West. The recent rise in liberalism there and importation of pajeets in particular is especially cause for concern. My point is that - currently - even the most globohomo city in Japan is not even comparable to most cities in the US and it's extremely disingenuous to claim that it is.
 
I'm starting to wonder if his plan was to make all the people screaming "BETRAYAL" come off as so autistic and annoying that people stop talking about it just to avoid being associated with them.
We've already had at least two people get threadbanned for fedposting over it.
It's making me associate everyone losing their shit about it with Groypers and also reinforcing my belief that they should all be deported to Haiti or Rwanda. I mean, most Groypers are lower IQ browns anyways, so no great loss. I just wish they'd get that twink wearing cat ears loving Mexican faggot too, but I assume the Feds aren't done using him yet. Funny how he dodged jail time even though he's on camera encouraging people to storm the Capitol on Jan 6. I guess those grannies were way more dangerous.
 
Its actually insane that the dem appointed judges are willing to push things so far that now the question of birthright citizenship becomes incredibly consequential. No matter which direction the court goes its hard to imagine threading the needle in a way that doesn't shift the landscape of the country in profound ways. Nothing Ever Happens bros, thoughts?
 
Yeah, Japan was by far the safest country I've ever been to. We landed in Tokyo at midnight and were surprised that no one was out and about. My dad was worried about letting my brother wander around Tokyo by himself but stopped worrying after the second day because of how safe it is.
A lot of Asia is like that. When my parents came to visit me they were amazed at how they can leave their luggage unattended on the luggage rack on the train and everything will still be there afterwards.
 
it's difficult not to look at how they developed and what they did differently compared to the US.
The last time I was in Japan, I needed to get to a particular address. I managed to get close to it but couldn't find it because holy fuck the way street addresses work there is incomprehensible sometimes. So I went into the nearest 7-11 to ask for directions. The clerk literally took me by the arm and escorted me to where I needed to go. That's the difference between Japan and the US.
 
The greatest flaw of Liberalism, and I mean this in the traditional context of the term, in that the Republicans are Liberals too, is not the belief in "All men are created equal." That is a major flaw to be sure, in that it is farcical to even believe its true. The Greatest flaw of Liberalism is the belief that Power exists to bring about utopia. An utopia where everyone is happy, everyone is free, everyone gets what they want. That is not what power is for. Power exists to be used for the furtherment of those who wield it.

The purpose of morality and traditions is to inculcate in those who wield power a sense of duty and care to the nation and their subjects. Such that when Power is wielded, it is done for the benefit and advancement of both the wielder and his subjects. This is something traditional societies did. It is something Liberal societies do not. In fact, Liberal Societies are absolutely allergic to the idea that people need to be inculcated with the idea they are not an individual but a part of a great social structure in which greater power incurs greater responsibilities.
I agree with some of this, but "classical" (if that's what you meant by "traditional"?) Liberalism most certainly allows for, and sometimes assumes, "duty and care" by "those who wield power." Classical Liberalism is not devoid of morality and tradition; often-times, though, primary thinkers/ shapers of it assumed moral/ traditional/ cultural norms and simply didn't see much necessity of prescribing it through government.

In reality, "Classical Liberalism" has many strains of thought, fairly divergent on the role of state, import of economic theory, and general or personal humanitarianism/ decency/ morality. Most have a fairly hands-off view on legislated obligation, but not all Classical Liberals ignore it altogether. It's also worthwhile to situate some thinkers in their personal and socio-cultural locations, and what the common/ assumed expectations are. A man who personally values and feels obligation to others may argue for theoretically pure low interference in decisionmaking, but he may not fully extrapolate the impact of an absolutist strain of a society where there are no cultural traditions of general regard among men.

You said,
The Greatest flaw of Liberalism is the belief that Power exists to bring about utopia. An utopia where everyone is happy, everyone is free, everyone gets what they want. That is not what power is for. Power exists to be used for the furtherment of those who wield it.
and also, "[...] when Power is wielded, it is done for the benefit and advancement of both the wielder and his subjects." Not all Classical Liberals are utopianists. And a general, if not articulated, notion of noblesse oblige was far more embedded in many Classical Liberal thinkers' assumptions than it sounds, because they largely spoke in theory-mode. Earlyish Classical Liberal philosophies, especially, of "leave people alone" incorporated certain assumptions about those with inborn or acquired power, the balance of human natur, and cultural (presumed universal, at least for all those who rated consideration) norms. Many of them believed that most humans would make good - or at least not macro-level devastating - choices, that there were enough "good men" making "good" (positive) choices...choices within the thinkers' own and observed contexts. If they committed (thought-) "crimes," it was the belief that morality (and common) tradition would flourish without either church or state (their primary focus was state) setting and enforcing requirements, and that neither raw individualists nor immorality nor straight self-interest could critically wound society.

There is no "Classically Liberal Society" on Earth. And in much of the world, at least in the US and Europe, Classical Liberalism as a cohesive theory has been bifurcated and repackaged current-day into aspects of certain versions of what we generally consider conservatism and liberalism.
 
I'm starting to wonder if his plan was to make all the people screaming "BETRAYAL" come off as so autistic and annoying that people stop talking about it just to avoid being associated with them.
We've already had at least two people get threadbanned for fedposting over it.
Suddenly reviewing episodes of Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis in the thread isn't so crazy anymore. In fact you have realized that you miss it.

WELL GOOD NEWS! I am on season five of Deep Space Nine so we are closer than ever to the return of Stargate. The chevrons are locking.

 
drunk posting

Wait, hold up. Are we not supposed to do this? You guys are way more fun after a few. Are you saying some of you are sober??

The Belgian X Files, North Fox Island, the BBC, UNICEF, The Round House, the Lambeth Ring, Midnight Productions, the Kincora ring, Chateau De Amorois, the Elm Guest House, and who could forget Marc Dutroux.

Jesus Christ. I knew about a few of these but what in the fuck????

What we should be asking, since old Don was pals with Eppy anyway and so likely involved somehow someway but we'll never know...

Why are the elite so into this shit?

My guess from my experiences with them: govt and crime go hand in hand. Drug smuggling, human trafficking, whatever. There are not clear lines. Also, it's totally about psychopathic levels of power and exclusion from the plebs.
 
I've said before that I don't think it's impervious to the same factors that are currently causing the fall of the West. The recent rise in liberalism there and importation of pajeets in particular is especially cause for concern. My point is that - currently - even the most globohomo city in Japan is not even comparable to most cities in the US and it's extremely disingenuous to claim that it is.
It really is though. But also you ignored my actual post by even starting this. Go back to living in delusions of “glorious nippon”
 
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