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New big Gallup poll out and Americans are overwhelmingly turning on Trump's immigration policies.

Trump approval on immigration: 35-62

Record high approval of immigration (79-17 overall)

78% of people support a pathway to citizenship (+8 from 2024); only 38% support mass deportation (-9 from 2024)

30% want a decrease in immigration (-25 from 2024)

Fun fact: Polls are bullshit
 
New big Gallup poll out and Americans are overwhelmingly turning on Trump's immigration policies.

Trump approval on immigration: 35-62

Record high approval of immigration (79-17 overall)

78% of people support a pathway to citizenship (+8 from 2024); only 38% support mass deportation (-9 from 2024)

30% want a decrease in immigration (-25 from 2024)

This article doesn't even link to the supposed poll. Here's your reply, baitnigger.
 
I don't know if anyone has brought this up but the reason there's an impression that Americans citizens don't do farm work are way more complex than pay and the physical difficulty of the work.

First of all it's an impression, it's not a reality. There are still a number of crops where the labor force is surprisingly white.

Second, the actual reason you increasingly see illiterate central americans out doing farm work instead of even literate Mexicans stem from two things: the employers with shitty attitudes towards their labor force and towards their communities in general, and the general destruction in the US to live a life on your own terms and run your own schedule unless you're pretty rich.

There are just a lot of farmers who are selfish motherfuckers. They care about their own family and that's it, they don't care if their labor force can't educate their children, they don't care if their labor force is a problem for other people, this is a consistent stereotype of farmers for a reason that is actually historically less true in the US but that's mostly because farmers were forced to not be dicks because of the price of labor. The perfect distillation of this is rich farming families who send their teenagers on mission trips to get pictures taken of themselves digging wells and building schools in the third world while the workforce who labored to make the money to pay for the trip are inadequately housed miles and miles from anything.

And Americans have allowed corporations and the state to destroy the conditions of dignified poverty, or even dignified lower middle class life. The midcentury American bohemian life is no longer possible unless you're bankrolled by family - people used to do seasonal work part of the year and then write or paint part of the year, or sometimes of course just get drunk part of the year, but almost everything that supported that life is gone.
 
Trump has used Gallup polling during both campaigns so it's a reputable pollster.
All polls are bullshit. Any politician worth his salt is going to cherry pick favorable polls to make people think other people agree with him so they'll be more likely to consooom VoooooooTe~
 
Yeah who gives a shit about conflicts that could spiral out into WW3 from US involvement?

Who votes for an end to never-ending US military spending on conflicts that don't matter?

Who seriously is against the concept of foreverwars?

I can't believe people are even attempting to walk-back the fucking anti-war stance;. Unreal.
blowing up the ayatollahs centrifuges or sending SAMs to ukraine isn't starting ww3 you clown, get a fucking grip lol
no amount of bluster and fearmongering from putin or khamenei changes the fact that both of their countries have a 0% chance at winning a war against america, and unless that magically changes one day neither of them will even consider going to war against america. all their screeching is purely for show, there is no substance behind their tough talk and grandiose threats.

Yes it's such a faux moral outrage to be pissed off that the administration is running cover for pedophiles who are likely still running child rape extortion schemes right now. Man I can't believe people would still be pissed about that, right guys?

And to unironically start using the label of 'conspiracy theorist' as a means of dismissal after all the crap that has been called a 'right-wing conspiracy theory' that turned out to be 100% true, including the amount of illegals crossing the border and the fact that Trump's campaign was spied on, or that the January 6th shit was in large part kicked off by feds, is fucking mental.
it's conspiratard bait because any reasonable observer is aware that the case has been dead for years because there's no solid evidence that could be used to justify prosecuting alleged clients. unless maxwell flips and spills the beans, nothing is going to come of it.
imo trump's a retard for having played into it in the first place, so him getting some backlash for making false promises is deserved, but people getting all hysteric over this shit is just embarassing. pizzagate vibes.
 
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To add insult to injury this is one of the agricultural industries where there is massive interest from native Americans and would you look at that their jobs are still being stolen by slave labor. Regardless of how you view pot this finally proves it to me tbh that it is not about muh Americans not wanting to work
 
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New big Gallup poll out and Americans are overwhelmingly turning on Trump's immigration policies.

Trump approval on immigration: 35-62

Record high approval of immigration (79-17 overall)

78% of people support a pathway to citizenship (+8 from 2024); only 38% support mass deportation (-9 from 2024)

30% want a decrease in immigration (-25 from 2024)

How many people who were questioned illegal immigrants?
 
AOC had a very very brief moment 5-6 years ago where she could have had a prominent political career based solely off being cute and young but she's aging in dog years.

Cocaine and booze has ravenged her to the point where she looks like a fat Mexican lunch lady. Now AOC's fate is to languish in an obscure congressional committee where they stick all the unwanted retards until she's primaried for being insufficiently loyal to Israel.
It’s a good thing there’s an age limit on presidents because coomers would destroy this country single handedly.
 
Trump has used Gallup polling during both campaigns so it's a reputable pollster.

The most "reputable" poll going in to the 2024 election was the famed Iowa Selzer poll. It's final result showed him losing the state by 4 points. He won by 12.

Also Trump citing fake polls does not make them any more reputable than him saying "even fake news CNN reported on this" somehow means he magically considers them a legitimate news source now.

But you knew that.
 
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