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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
Wasn't there a list of 150 towns where riots were going to happen and then a bunch of pakis came out singing and holding hands like a coke advert? Wasn't that put in the paper and not seen any where else?

It's a common leftoid tactic, create fake social media posts advertising "right wing marches" , turn up to counter these "marches", and when nobody (or a handful of retards) turns up on the rightwing side they get to say "oooh look guys we outnumbered the fash!"
 
It's a common leftoid tactic, create fake social media posts advertising "right wing marches" , turn up to counter these "marches", and when nobody (or a handful of retards) turns up on the rightwing side they get to say "oooh look guys we outnumbered the fash!"
Exactly right, and they always think that they'll claim victory.

When it's tens or hundreds of thousands against them, however...

We also need to remember that the Left has split in three:

* Traditional Lefties/Liberals - oppose Tories and Reform UK but are okay to talk with and won't go ape-shit if you disagree with them.

* Far Left - hate both the 'Far Right' and the 'Starmer Right' of Labour. Potential to cause trouble, prefer action to typing passive aggressive tweets/posts online.

* Starmer Right/Progress Left - hate the 'Far Right' but also fear the angry Far Left. Narrative controllers/SJW morons who are all mouth and little action.

The latter are now increasingly worried about the Far Left doing something, because they believe that they control the narrative and if a group/faction cannot be controlled then this will worry them. They believe that only they can be the arbiters of society and only they can ever be fair and just.

They may be able to outflank the Right on protests, but not their own side or a faction who claims that they too are also 'Left' and once they lose control of the narrative then all is darkness for them.

Anyway some sad news concerning ELO's Jeff Lynne:


Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/OubQ1

Also, Brent in London is now twinned with Palestine:


Archive: https://archive.ph/QKNMH
 
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Traditional lefties are too few now. I genuinely miss having true friends whose politics are different to mine, with whom I can talk and discuss things.

We're poorer off because of IdPol. I'm a massive racist and far right but it's not my identity and I don't take genuine discussion as an attack on me personally. The left can't do that these days. Too immature.
 
Traditional lefties are too few now. I genuinely miss having true friends whose politics are different to mine, with whom I can talk and discuss things.

We're poorer off because of IdPol. I'm a massive racist and far right but it's not my identity and I don't take genuine discussion as an attack on me personally. The left can't do that these days. Too immature.
Lefty birds still think us conspiracy nut right wingers are the bee's knees.
 
Farage is controlled opposition and his entire career shows it. He has had like a dozen cheap wins over the years he literally refused to take. He had a good 3 chances of a real shot at pushing his party and maybe even becoming PM and every time he went the opposite way.

Reform is just the latest of his grifts. He took it over exactly to stop people like Lowe from having power and pushing things to the actual right wing.

In a way the fact Labour is holding onto power so desperatly is a blessing for you brits. It is giving time for the actual opposition to form and making Farage's takeover of Reform explicit and obvious to everyone. The actual base of the party is evaporating right under him as people on the ground who joined to stop the boats move away from his false persona and he replaces it with yes men and approved opinions.

Restore is where things will get done. Do not fall for Reform, it is not gonna reform shit.
 
6-9 months before the next GE, labour will pull some stunts like lowering VAT or dropping taxes, then promise they will finish their mission to do X if they're voted in again. They'll get voted in again because people have gold fish memories.

Tale as old as time.
 
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Farage is controlled opposition and his entire career shows it. He has had like a dozen cheap wins over the years he literally refused to take. He had a good 3 chances of a real shot at pushing his party and maybe even becoming PM and every time he went the opposite way.

Reform is just the latest of his grifts. He took it over exactly to stop people like Lowe from having power and pushing things to the actual right wing.

In a way the fact Labour is holding onto power so desperatly is a blessing for you brits. It is giving time for the actual opposition to form and making Farage's takeover of Reform explicit and obvious to everyone. The actual base of the party is evaporating right under him as people on the ground who joined to stop the boats move away from his false persona and he replaces it with yes men and approved opinions.

Restore is where things will get done. Do not fall for Reform, it is not gonna reform shit.

I know that Farage is a bastard but 'Split the vote more to some other new party' is probably just something that will keep the current bastards (whatever colour tie they're wearing this time round) in power.
 
6-9 months before the next GE, labour will pull some stunts like lowering VAT or dropping taxes, then promise they will finish their mission to do X if they're voted in again. They'll get voted in again because people have gold fish memories.

Tale as old as time.
I saw someone raging about the Epstein cover up saying “do politicians think people are stupid?”

No, politicians know people are stupid.

Take as old as time indeed.
 
Farage is controlled opposition and his entire career shows it. He has had like a dozen cheap wins over the years he literally refused to take. He had a good 3 chances of a real shot at pushing his party and maybe even becoming PM and every time he went the opposite way.

Reform is just the latest of his grifts. He took it over exactly to stop people like Lowe from having power and pushing things to the actual right wing.

In a way the fact Labour is holding onto power so desperatly is a blessing for you brits. It is giving time for the actual opposition to form and making Farage's takeover of Reform explicit and obvious to everyone. The actual base of the party is evaporating right under him as people on the ground who joined to stop the boats move away from his false persona and he replaces it with yes men and approved opinions.

Restore is where things will get done. Do not fall for Reform, it is not gonna reform shit.
Whilst I see your POV, Restore is unlikely (for now anyway) to be able to compete with Reform UK let alone send it back to being a minority party.

IF it does, and IF Elon gets on board and Nigel does nuke Reform UK (in which case, even I'd be tempted to say 'never again, Nigel') then perhaps I'd consider Restore if they are the new CO (Credible Option).

What people sometimes don't understand is that I and others in Reform UK don't see Nigel as the long-term solution, he is there to take power and to bring about the first round of changes needed to take us back to something resembling the United Kingdom. Just like Ryan and Rob have taken Wrexham FC from Non-League to the Championship in under five years, Nigel's charisma and campaigning has taken the anti-EU, pro-common sense parties of UKIP, Brexit and now Reform UK from being nothing to being something.

However, Nigel isn't everything - Reform UK is the way that the disenfranchised are finally answering back and that is more important than even his role. I wouldn't say that the vote is going from us currently, if anything they're gaining from Labour and Tories all the time and only the Lib Dems are making any marginal gains in the Polls. Yes, they cannot be complacent, but the facts speak for themselves - most people now apparently want Nigel as PM and Reform UK as the party of power.

Would I take two or three years of Nigel as PM, with somebody like Lowe or even Golding taking charge after Nigel steps down? Yes, I would - by then they'll be able to move as far right as they wish, because who is going to stop them? The Lib Dems (if the Opposition) will spend their time bleating about 'muh EU re-joining' whilst Reform UK will have hopefully got the economy under control and gotten rid of the toxic woke culture and its disciples. Providing that things are good, the debts are gone or manageable, the cost of living and cost of food/drink etc. is low then few will care.

For me, personally, it's about what the party/movement wants that is important and for now Reform UK have my vote, backing and blessing as the only credible player at the table. Should that change, then maybe I will change my voting and thinking but Restore will have to be able to outdo not just Reform UK but also Britain First, Advance UK, Heritage, Reclaim, BNP etc. A tall ask indeed.

My hope would be of uniting these tribes somehow one day into a 'Super Right' party, but I guess that will only come around after Nigel has left.

I will still vote Reform UK as the numbers are important - the more we get, the better the chance of a move away from the toxic left society. Yes, Nigel is not perfect, but as a pragmatist I have to say 'what is best for the country - a split vote between the various Right Wing parties and Labour/Tories pissing on us again for five years or Reform UK getting over the finishing line with a majority and the chance at last of decent and positive change?'

We've had the most miserable decade since the Second World War in the 2020s - I do not intend that to continue, and if/when the day of change is announced then it currently stands that my vote will only go to one man and one party. You can call me an idiot, a fool, whatever - unless there's a better alternative on the table, I've decided my main course and will accept my just desserts.
 
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Why was a five foot and a bit girl who looks like she’s built like a sparrow sent to arrest a bloke who had attacked someone? I’m not even saying this as a criticism of the officer herself - she tried. But ffs the guy had already attacked someone with potentially lethal force (a headbutt is not trivial.)
Back in the day police were all big lads, and they’d fuck you up. Now we’ve got slight young women sent to arrest violent men and they’re not even allowed to use force on them. The perps should have been put on the floor and given a brisk going over by her majesty’s finest.
I know people here arent a big fan of the police, but they are an essential part of law and order, and they should be able to be physically intimidating when arresting violent criminals. If you’re a violent mohammedean who has been brawling you should expect to get a kicking from the plod.
Instead we’ve got small women getting broken faces, police not allowed to lay a finger on genuinely dangerous men, or facing an inquiry every time they draw a weapon, and coppers sent to arrest women for praying outside abortion clinics. I would love to know what the more old school rank and file think about all this. Make it make sense.

For your viewing "pleasure" Otterly -

 
The Germans started scaring us.
There's a quote that pops up in the loading screens for Empire: Total War every so often:
"We have been, we are, and I hope we always will be despised in France."

Its a shame that ancient wisdom has been forgotten, since that's a sentiment even we Americans can get behind.
I just like the idea of Big Baz, fresh from a revolution, sitting down, opening the paper and seeing his taxes going up; then just shaking his head and grabbing his gun again.
"Shouldn't 'ave taxed me chips!"
The UK will never be overthrown by an anarchistic coup simply because they'd run out of bullets.
I'm sure the USA can work out some sort of mutually-beneficial lend-lease agreement.
 
I have been fearing a Northern Rock 2. In all honesty, I am betting that HSBC or Natwest, as well as Santander, are not looking good either. I think Labour thinks the pause in Parliament is going to alleviate the grave situation currently, but it is going to make it much worse.
We have a government that is paralyzed; it is unsustainable.
 
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Fuck all that "hey hey ho ho" fucking shit. These people larping 70s American activism and mindlessly repeating the same slogans that didn't work fifty years ago drive me absolutely bonkers. I hope they make Starmer shit himself anyway.

I also wonder if DPAC cymru have realised how similar their logo looks to a sun cross...

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Yes, I am aware that they're likely drawing on early post-roman vrythonic symbology, though I'm fairly certain most of the celtic crosses found in Wales are on the graves of Irish colonisers rather than the natives. Regardless, given the way any display of even a traditional a celtic cross is treated as closet nazism these days, I'm only ensuring that the rules are equally applies. DPAC cymru are fascist white supremacists who proudly display racist dogwhistle symbols at their marches.. The fact there's not a single BAME individual present at their protest proves it.
 
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