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[Kyria the Great]

I love how when the questions of tow capacity, wide objects, and somewhat more delicate objects like drywall was what broke them. I also bet when these users that get this long 2×4s won't properly flag them as oversized loads need to.

 

[Lovely Kin]

Now that I think about it, do ""urbanists"" love cycling at all? Can't they just enjoy a stroll while pedaling? It's as if they need to force themselves to show off and prove they did the right choice and didn't wasted their money and effort. They need a reason to cycle.

Attentionwhoring plays a role in it, and wanting to say "Hey, I'm one of the good ones. What about YOU?"

There does seem to be some level of understanding about the climate. /r/fuckcars complains about why places are Texas, Arizona, and Florida are so "car-centric" when in reality they're literally on the same latitude as the Sahara (Egypt, Algeria, etc.) so there's precedent for why people tend not to bicycle (unsurprisingly, only after the invention of air conditioning did populations for Texas, Florida, and Arizona start to take off).

I always hint to others that some climates are too cold for cycling, or too hot. Some places also get very hot during summers and very cold within winters, so the best time to cycle is during some muddy spring rain, or during autumn. When it comes down to one season being the most reasonable to cycle, there really isn't much to do with your bike.

 

[Kyria the Great]

Attentionwhoring plays a role in it, and wanting to say "Hey, I'm one of the good ones. What about YOU?"

I always hint to others that some climates are too cold for cycling, or too hot. Some places also get very hot during summers and very cold within winters, so the best time to cycle is during some muddy spring rain, or during autumn. When it comes down to one season being the most reasonable to cycle, there really isn't much to do with your bike.

They'll counter your point by showing someone in Finland cycling in the winter as a gotcha rather than viewing it as an anomaly.

 

[BulkForceFive]

I love how when the questions of tow capacity, wide objects, and somewhat more delicate objects like drywall was what broke them. I also bet when these users that get this long 2×4s won't properly flag them as oversized loads need to.

Someone should've asked why he didn't just walk home with three 2x4s, considering you can carry them under one arm. I bet 'you don't NEED a cargo bike' would've made him seethe to death.

 

[TowinKarz]

Attentionwhoring plays a role in it, and wanting to say "Hey, I'm one of the good ones. What about YOU?"

I always hint to others that some climates are too cold for cycling, or too hot. Some places also get very hot during summers and very cold within winters, so the best time to cycle is during some muddy spring rain, or during autumn. When it comes down to one season being the most reasonable to cycle, there really isn't much to do with your bike.

Yesterday here was one of those plurality of 90 - 90 days you get every summer, meaning 90+ temp 90+ humidity. Biking in such conditions are not just uncomfortable and impractical, but dangerous. Not just from heatstroke but as the level of discomfort goes up? Your ability to pay 100% attention to everything (including those roaming murdercars) goes down.


And we've been blessed this year with a mild summer that meant this was only the 2nd day so far this season like that, usually by now? You've endured at least a week or more of it.

Speaking of trips to the home improvement warehouse. I had to make an emergency run yesterday to get a new trash can for this morning's weekly pickup as the old bin had succumbed to wear and tear and was leaking that foul garbage juice all over the place. (you can imagine how delightful THAT made the porch smell in 90-90 weather).

Anyway, I did get an interesting mental image at checkout of how the NJB crowd would've acted when faced with having to get a 45 gal bin home by bike...... put it over your head and bike home like R2D2? After cutting portholes in the side?

The bike is just not the practical solution to nearly a quarter of the things your personal vehicle can do. (While on the subject of trash, how do they expect trash pickup to work without the garbage truck? Daily trips to the dump by bike? Even in 90-90 weather to dispose of your daily scraps?)

 

[LaxerBRO]

The bike is just not the practical solution to nearly a quarter of the things your personal vehicle can do. (While on the subject of trash, how do they expect trash pickup to work without the garbage truck? Daily trips to the dump by bike? Even in 90-90 weather to dispose of your daily scraps?)

There was this "contractor" that said that he did many if not most of his jobs via his cargo bike. While is possible, it's not practical.

As much as jobs can be planned out, there is always the unexpected. Perhaps it's like you mentioned and it's hotter than expected on top of a project taking longer and being harder than expected.

Will this fucker still peddle to his next job on oppressive heat?

If he does will he smell?

Even if he does take a shower, the question is where and how long it takes.

How about if one get an emergency call that he does not have a part for?

Is he going to peddle to the hardware store or back to his shop then to the emergency call?

If he is already tired I doubt he will enjoy the extra peddling.

How understanding will the client be?

If I have to wait a couple hours and this fucker shows up on a bike, part of me is wondering how much of my free time this asshole wasted because he choose to be a contractor on a bike.

 

[Yamamura]

If I have to wait a couple hours and this fucker shows up on a bike, part of me is wondering how much of my free time this asshole wasted because he choose to be a contractor on a bike.

If the contractor I hired turned up on a bike I'd tell them I've chosen to go with someone else's services.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

There was this "contractor" that said that he did many if not most of his jobs via his cargo bike. While is possible, it's not practical.

Makes sense that an alcoholic contractor would lose their license, be forced to commute via bike and then discover the /fuckcars subreddit.

Considering the entire subreddit is full of Alcoholics

 

[Chromeo]

I saw a guy yesterday on a motorized minibike hauling something behind him. At least he had a motor, but I also assumed he had a prior dui.

 

[malformed bricks]

i don't disagree with having more developed public transport systems (streetcars, trams, etc.) and a large-scale revival of the passenger rail network, but these faggots present it in the most annoying, pompous way possible that makes it impossible to agree with them in good faith

 

[Kyria the Great]

i don't disagree with having more developed public transport systems (streetcars, trams, etc.) and a large-scale revival of the passenger rail network, but these faggots present it in the most annoying, pompous way possible that makes it impossible to agree with them in good faith

That's the most annoying as most can generally agree but their maximalist bullshit along with sneaking in bughive nonsense is what will torpedo anything they want

 

[Xarpho's Return]

If the contractor I hired turned up on a bike I'd tell them I've chosen to go with someone else's services.

Yup. Which by the way, in over-regulated bughive cities like New York, to be a plumber (or other licensed tradesman) you have to have a New York driver's license. This doesn't mean you have to drive a van, but why wouldn't you? You're not saving money by riding a bicycle, so you're both wasting your own time (especially as a big van can hold a bunch of various other stuff you might need) and money. The typical urbanist doesn't have a driver's license, because getting a license means you actually have to drive and do stuff, and perhaps realize that cars aren't bad after all. (Performative urbanists like Jason have cars, but I'm not sure if most do--for example, the "Threads Urbanist", American Footsniffer or whatever his name was, had his wife do all the actual driving.)

That's the most annoying as most can generally agree but their maximalist bullshit along with sneaking in bughive nonsense is what will torpedo anything they want

Maximalist bullshit is right. Parking minimums are one of their bugaboos when it comes to urbanism (faux libertarianism) but that gets undermined by demanding that tax code gets changed to price out downtown parking lots, wants street parking to disappear (for bike lanes, of course), and even advocate for parking maximums. Freeway widening--they genuinely think that more cars would just materialize if you did so. (They don't).

They'll counter your point by showing someone in Finland cycling in the winter as a gotcha rather than viewing it as an anomaly.

Oh, it goes deeper than that. A while back American Foodslut recorded some chap on a bicycle in the rain (see this post), the boomer cyclist grinned and waved at him, but the retard genuinely thought that he was happy to be out cycling in the rain.

 

[quaawaa]

Jason thinks a street with only one car lane is "absolute garbage:

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Also, how do you know that it doesn't have public transit. Buses can drive on normal roads and there could be a subway underneath it.

A fan says that he should tailor his message to his audience.
Jason says that he can't because the YouTube algorithm doesn't like it when he does that:


I don't believe that the average European thinks that any of those streets is "absolute garbage". Jason, as a self-employed YouTuber living in the richest neighborhood in the country, is completely out of touch with the average European.

He then boasts that his American audience has dropped by 15 percentage points:


I doubt he gained a ton of new European viewers to offset his American ones leaving, so he's probably just coping about his views declining.

Source (Archive)

 

[Thrak]

Jason thinks a street with only one car lane is "absolute garbage:
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Performatively saying "maths" is a candidate for his most insufferable behavior. "Math" specifically is one of the only non-British terms continental Europeans use when speaking English. It's especially obtuse because despite how much he talks about "Fake London™" you just know he's all-in on the contempt that continentals have for Britain as always being behind the curve on socialism and degeneracy, no matter how much the Blairite cargo cult vainly tries to out-cuck their neighbors in hopes that their infrastructure and healthcare will be as good as what going all-in on American tourist and luxury good export money can provide

 

[Xarpho's Return]

I doubt he gained a ton of new European viewers to offset his American ones leaving, so he's probably just coping about his views declining.

This makes no sense. If it was strictly on a percentage basis, that 15% has to go somewhere--if that went to European viewers he wouldn't stop talking about it...so I have to assume that the missing 15% is going to India, Russia, or South America. But that introduces another question, is he really not understanding how his view metrics work, or is he buying subscribers from third-world shitholes and then when the number of legitimate viewers (often American) drop off, he's using that as a win?

I would assume that he is buying viewers since it's obviously not Europeans, and if he had a chance to brag about how Russians, South Americans, and Indians are learning about urban design and how to "fix" their cities he wouldn't stop talking about it.

@Thrak, who joined a few months ago points out that Jason is being performative with his language, but the whole "single lane is garbage" thing is performative too. Amsterdam-Centrum's streets are seen as the pinnacle of urban design, and they have only one lane in each direction with no dedicated mass transit lane. He doesn't complain that many have Amsterdam's streets have two or even three lanes in each direction if there's a nice red-paved bicycle lane paralleling it.

 

[Yamamura]

I would assume that he is buying viewers since it's obviously not Europeans, and if he had a chance to brag about how Russians, South Americans, and Indians are learning about urban design and how to "fix" their cities he wouldn't stop talking about it.

The small number of Indian urbanists that seldomly come up are hilarious because they're stuck in a impasse where they are both too poor to own a car and their transit infrastructure sucks as well. They literally have the worst of everything.

 

[Markass the Worst]

The small number of Indian urbanists that seldomly come up are hilarious because they're stuck in a impasse where they are both too poor to own a car and their transit infrastructure sucks as well. They literally have the worst of everything.

India literally has shit in their streets, I don't care what they have to say.

 

[Bonesjones]

India literally has shit in their streets, I don't care what they have to say.

No wonder H1Bs are so popular in California. Its all beginning to make sense.

 

[Meriasek]

I don't believe that the average European thinks that any of those streets is "absolute garbage". Jason, as a self-employed YouTuber living in the richest neighborhood in the country, is completely out of touch with the average European.

Oh he can fuck right off indeed. Not all Euros are rabid transit and bike spergs. Most of us are actually normal. Yeah, we are happy to use the bike as transport and enjoy being able to walk to many places, but it's not like we'd go somewhere where it isn't like what we're used to and be like "ermagerhd how can these poor people live like this? It's absolutely horrible, where's the transit, where are the bike lanes??".
We got artery roads in cities, too. There are many places in Europe with shitty bike lanes, no bike lanes, or even no side walks. And no good transit systems. Not everywhere is Amsterdam or one of the nicer metropole areas.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Oh he can fuck right off indeed. Not all Euros are rabid transit and bike spergs. Most of us are actually normal. Yeah, we are happy to use the bike as transport and enjoy being able to walk to many places, but it's not like we'd go somewhere where it isn't like what we're used to and be like "ermagerhd how can these poor people live like this? It's absolutely horrible, where's the transit, where are the bike lanes??".
We got artery roads in cities, too. There are many places in Europe with shitty bike lanes, no bike lanes, or even no side walks. And no good transit systems. Not everywhere is Amsterdam or one of the nicer metropole areas.

Around 2022 there was something that was signal-boosted by the urbanists about some Ukraine refugee either noting or complaining about the lack of sidewalks in whatever city she was re-settled in. I'm not sure what the original context was (I want to say it was just noting the differences, but I could be wrong), but the urbanists took offense on her behalf anyway.

edit: nope it was disingenuous bullshitting by some ungrateful "refugee" who should be deported at the minimum