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Should be a wild four years.

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comparing me to fatpacks of all people is genuinely hurtful
Maybe try having punctuation instead of being a bottomed out fecally incontinent faggot 24/7 and people might entertain you more. But then again you know how A&N is. At least Fatpacks is clear, all you do is essentially go "No I disagree and you're retarded, my opinion is heccin valid". What do you have to say? What are yout standards? What's wrong with America? What do you propose to stop our neverending enshittification?
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I said MAGA because it's a good comparison since MAGA themselves are having a civil war with groypers. Groypers themselves are influential online (they helped swing the pendulum right again) and in some right-wing IRL politics, and similar to the DSA, mostly younger people. DSA is making steps and really trying to push out liberals from the left because they view them as right-wingers. Outside of AOC (who hasn't really done anything) and Zorhan (most of his policies will most likely not work), there isn't a lot of hope for the DSA but they are still changing the Democrat party landscape
Groypers have no power and no influence.

Their political height was getting told to fuck off by Trump when Fuentes was brought along by Kanye as a uninvited plus 1 when Trump was at his lowest.

Hasan has more influence than Fuentes and also got the door shut on him at the DNC and the Whitehouse.
 
Groypers have no power and no influence.

Their political height was getting told to fuck off by Trump when Fuentes was brought along by Kanye as a uninvited plus 1 when Trump was at his lowest.

Hasan has more influence than Fuentes and also got the door shut on him at the DNC and the Whitehouse.
If that were true why do so many young men end up falling for the Tate meme and Twitter groyper propaganda? Groypers wouldn't even be an existing talking point if what you said were true. Remember that for in the future if these men stay the same.
 
Another very interesting one from the same guy is When the Music Stops, which is his theorycrafting about how the US's nigger problem will boil over after decades or centuries of us feeding the beast to try and make sure it doesn't attack us. Turns out the lesson of the Danegeld is to have the fight early, not later. But yeah, eventually the gibs will run out, the negroids will realize there's nothing STOPPING them from doing "flash mob" style violence... and eventually white people will get pissed and tired enough to realize there's nothing stopping THEM from doing "flash mob" style vigilantism to put an end to it.

https://steelcutter.substack.com/p/when-the-music-stops-how-americas https://steelcutter.substack.com/p/when-the-music-stops-how-americas-a95
I like his presumed reason for mass unrest. I find his view that the violence could last years, and require peace walls to be implausible. Urban youths are just ghetto niggers. Ghetto niggers do not have the backbone to drag out this type of large scale violence when met with a swift violent response. They'll prey on the old White lady living alone till the end of time, but a dozen or so Whites between 20-45 gunning them down in a neighborhood, or on a high-way, would result in them running for their ghettos, screaming for the government to save them from those evil kkk members. They'll eat each other before they'll risk meeting armed organized White resistance. See New Orleans in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina for example.

Shooting criminals who are actively attacking you is not declaring war against the United States government.
Shooting criminals? No. Shooting cops ordered to arrest you for shooting criminals trying to burn your house down, loot it, and rape your wife? Yes. I don't know about you but over the past decade I've noticed a very fascinating trend where the niggers would be allowed to riot, cops would sit back and do nothing. When a White individual tried to defend themselves, or guard their property, those cops would spring into action to arrest said White. While the looting, rioting, arson, etc... would continue. Kyle Rittenhouse (who I'll bring up till the end of time) is an excellent example of this. Young white kid, vaguely right-wing, tries to stop rioters from burning buildings down, is attacked by said rioters, and all while cops stand around and do nothing. Only for him, and not anyone else, to be charged and prosecuted for his actions. To the point the prosecution was bringing in evidence provide by an "anonymous" source at the eleventh hour in attempt to put him away for life. Not a single person Kyle shot wasn't a worthless shitbag who shouldn't have been there. Should have been arrested. The prosecution's key witness was a literal fucking felon in possession of a concealed handgun with which he tried to murder Kyle after acting as if he meant no harm. That man, Gaige Grosskreutz, is still at large for his crimes. Term for all this is Anarcho-Tyranny.

Sidenote: if someone could find that vid of good ol' gaige getting ran over by a nigger, much obliged. Its a good laugh!
 
A real president would strip cops and public servants of their absurd immunity. That's a good first step in being True & Honest and appeasing a large amount of the population. It'd shatter a lot of localized corruption. If bubbles burst then so be it. Take risks in trying to restore the country. You can advocate for citizens rights and still respect police while making decisions to reverse the ways in which they are allowed to actively hinder and creep upon citizens just to make a case for the day.
 
The Soviets wanted nothing to do with Oswald even when he showed up in the Soviet Union. My pet theory is anti-Castro Cubans killed Kennedy as revenge for Bay of Pigs and LBJ didn't care because he hated Kennedy anyway and got to he president. Either that or Oswald really did act alone and Ruby killed him as revenge because JFK was the mob's guy.
Yeah, I never got the sense the Soviets themselves were really involved
 
What do you have to say? What are yout standards? What's wrong with America? What do you propose to stop our neverending enshittification?
No matter how I answer these questions, you'll still sperg out because you're a faggot who has one sided beef with me. Additionally, it's because I have different opinions than you.
 
No matter how I answer these questions, you'll still sperg out because you're a faggot who has one sided beef with me. Additionally, it's because I have different opinions than you.
That's not true and it's irrelevant to what I asked, typical faggot shit. I give everyone shit here, right, left, fencesitter and all. Answer my questions or you're a pussy and a stereotype college/pol/twitter thinker.
 
I'll humor it, even without citations.

*Allen Dulles, LBJ and the CIA.

Oswald wasn't even a Marxist or a defector,
He renounced his US citizenship to Moscow but was rejected. So, fine, "aspirational defector," lol.

he went to Russia to work on behalf of the US as a spy
Lol.
Oswald was placed in juvenile detention at age 12 for truancy, during which he was assessed by a psychiatrist as "emotionally disturbed" due to a lack of normal family life. He attended 12 schools in his youth, quitting repeatedly, and at age 17 he joined the Marines, where he was court-martialed twice and jailed. In 1959*, he was discharged from active duty into the Marine Corps Reserve, then flew to Europe and defected to the Soviet Union.
* A year before Kennedy was elected.

Primo spy material.

and the USSR pegged him as one immediately. he then came back to the states and started working in a facility making classified maps for the US army
He worked for a contractor, and not for long:
In July 1962, Oswald was hired by the Leslie Welding Company as a sheet metal worker in Dallas; he disliked the work and quit after three months. On October 12, he started working for the graphic-arts firm of Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall as a photoprint trainee. A fellow employee at Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall testified that Oswald's rudeness at his new job was such that fights threatened to break out, and that he once saw Oswald reading a Russian-language publication

(which wouldn't be possible if he was a real defector) and worked with FBI agent Guy Banister in New Orleans just 6 months before the assassination.
Doing what?

And Guy Banister, member of the John Birch Society Guy Banister?

[Banister] was an avid anti-communist, alleged member of the Minutemen, the John Birch Society, Louisiana Committee on Un-American Activities, and alleged publisher of the Louisiana Intelligence Digest which maintained that the civil rights movement was part of an international communist conspiracy and was treasonous.

So you're saying that Oswald was a secret arch-Conservative pretending to be a Russia-loving Marxist? Long game, got it.

Counter-but-still-conspiracy point: Ambassador R. James Woolsey, CIA director 1983-95, with Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa, a former acting chief of Communist Romania’s espionage service and the “highest-ranking intelligence official from an enemy country ever granted political asylum in the United States," published a book in 2021, saying that Oswald was a Soviet operative, but went beyond orders:

“In the end, there is no doubt that Lee Harvey Oswald was trained by the KGB to commit the assassination of President John F. Kennedy,” the authors write.

“Even after the KGB ordered Oswald to stand down, Oswald stubbornly went ahead with what he considered his personal mission as bestowed upon him by his hero, Khrushchev.”
According to the authors, the Soviets recruited Oswald in 1957, when he was a US Marine serving in Japan. After working clandestine missions for them for several years — including providing the information that allowed them to shoot down American pilot Gary Powers in 1960 — he was assigned in 1962, possibly by Khrushchev himself, to begin preparations to assassinate President Kennedy.

“Although Oswald wished to remain in the Soviet Union, he was eventually persuaded to return to the US to assassinate President Kennedy, whom Khrushchev had come to despise,” they write. “Oswald was … given a Soviet wife and sent back to the US in June 1962.”

According to the authors, sometime between that June and April 1963, the Soviets changed their minds, and recalled the assignment. Oswald, though, was too gung-ho, and was set on seeing it through.

“Oswald knew that Nikita Khrushchev, the leader of Oswald’s paradise and new home, the Soviet Union, had entrusted him with that task, and he was confident he could pull it off,” the authors write. “By this time, however, the KGB and [the country’s] leaders realized that Khrushchev’s crazy ideas were giving their country a terrible reputation . . . another false step by the hot-headed Khrushchev, and there might be nuclear war.”

The authors offer no evidence of an assassination order, or of any order to reverse course.

Counter-counterpoint:
Yuri Nosenko, an alleged Soviet defector, said Oswald "expressed a wish to defect" shortly after arriving in Russia in 1959, but the KGB turned him down on the grounds that he was "mentally unstable." Oswald was then hospitalized after he was found with a slit wrist in his hotel room. The KGB's opinion of him and his wife, Marina, whom the agency described as "a woman of little intelligence," remained overtly negative.

Nosenko has been viewed by some as a possible KGB plant, posing as a defector, who claimed Moscow was innocent of any involvement in the assassination.

Citing a "reliable" source, the memo also claimed Soviet envoy to the U.N., Nikolai Fedorenko, underscored that the Kremlin "preferred to have had President Kennedy at the helm of the American Government."

Cold War international politics were awesome.
 
I've noticed a very fascinating trend where the niggers would be allowed to riot, cops would sit back and do nothing. When a White individual tried to defend themselves, or guard their property, those cops would spring into action to arrest said White. While the looting, rioting, arson, etc... would continue.

It's a part of that "People won't do anything" narrative.
 
Groypers have no power and no influence.

Their political height was getting told to fuck off by Trump when Fuentes was brought along by Kanye as a uninvited plus 1 when Trump was at his lowest.

Hasan has more influence than Fuentes and also got the door shut on him at the DNC and the Whitehouse.
There are problems with Groypers, yes. A lot of them are nons larping as white and some are legit incels, but to say they have no political influence is ignorance. They helped push (retarded) ideals from being niches into being some mainstream points like the redpill and some race ideals and pushing anti-semitic ideals (aided by what happened after October 7th). Especially after all the stuff Trump and lackluster results like a lot of deportations, and the Epstein list, there is a civil war within the right wing over the MAGA types and Groypers
 
The Epstein List "released on the dark web" is legit.
I looked at the list released on the dark web and I'm surprised there isn't more talk about it in this thread, I assume because everyone made up their minds that it's fake and they don't want to waste their time, but I'd expect people here to at least want to have some fun conspiracy conversations about it.

The list looked pretty well made and convincing if it's fake and part of me did think about if the list was actually real. If it was anonymously dumped to the dark web and no one will ever believe that the actual list is real anymore. Makes me wonder, if the real list was uploaded somewhere, what would it take for people to believe it's the real deal? Trump has squashed any trust on the subject so anything he releases will obviously be a fake cover up (he will never release anything), if a legit source uploads it to the dark web no one will believe it's real, if the MSM says the list is real no one will believe them.

In stories like Watchmen you have the main character dropping off his journal to a newspaper chronicling all of the crimes committed by the villain to ensure the truth gets out there but in reality if this happened today everyone would just laugh and say "fake and gay" even if it was real. Anyway, here's the supposed Epstein list that was released to the dark web for those interested. It was posted here already a bunch of pages back but no one seemed to notice as it was blink and you miss it.


comparing me to fatpacks of all people is genuinely hurtful
No one here takes you seriously at all since you revealed you are an unironic autistic Communist. Literally Fatpacks tier.
 
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