Goonclown Steven Bonnell II / Destiny / Destiny.gg - Emotionally Unstable Manchild, Creeps on Teenagers, Incest Supporter, Degenerate Foot Sniffer, Cum Felcher, Gooner

[KendihVeinmar]

He acted on dating someone 3 years his junior? You don't understand how that is different from a 41 year old dating an 11 year old?

That isn't the issue, clearly an 11 year old can't consent, that's something we agree on. Now a 14 year old dating an 11 year old isn't as bad as a 41 year old dating an 11 year old, however the fact of the matter remains the same ; it's an older person taking advantage of a young girl. Yes, Nathan did this, emotionally and sexually.

And what is a DM from a random person to a recipient I can't even see supposed to convince me of? Where is the evidence of him fantasizing of being an abuser?

I don't really know, I never talked to Racism (at least I don't believe so) but supposedly he made a bunch of alt accounts pretending to be victims of himself (beating, raping, etc...) and was caught and confronted. There's a video, but it's between Racism and someone else.

 

[The Wall of Ambition]

That isn't the issue, clearly an 11 year old can't consent, that's something we agree on. Now a 14 year old dating an 11 year old isn't as bad as a 41 year old dating an 11 year old, however the fact of the matter remains the same ; it's an older person taking advantage of a young girl. Yes, Nathan did this, emotionally and sexually.

I don't really mind documentation of Nathan's behavior since it's a part of Destiny's story, much as he would prefer it not to be. But just a word of advice, I would not prescribe Nathan as a bad person or a predator or anything. He is 14. He could just be saying retarded shit for attention, especially if he's fucked up on meds. Everyone on this website knows that kids claim to be trans for attention. They could, even if it's way more stupid, claim to be a predator or pedophile. Dude could be sperging out.

There is really no way to know from our perspective. Again, I don't mind the documentation as far as it relates to Destiny. But actively lolcowing a 14 year old is some wiiiiild behavior lmao. I am fully aware of the irony of this reply when I said two days ago that we can only regulate our own behavior here. I just feel bad for Nathan considering who his father is, so I'm going to go easy on him while he is a minor. I am also going to try and make this comment the last time I speak of him.

 

[KendihVeinmar]

I don't really mind documentation of Nathan's behavior since it's a part of Destiny's story, much as he would prefer it not to be. But just a word of advice, I would not prescribe Nathan as a bad person or a predator or anything. He is 14. He could just be saying retarded shit for attention, especially if he's fucked up on meds. Everyone on this website knows that kids claim to be trans for attention. They could, even if it's way more stupid, claim to be a predator or pedophile. Dude could be sperging out.

There is really no way to know from our perspective. Again, I don't mind the documentation as far as it relates to Destiny. But actively lolcowing a 14 year old is some wiiiiild behavior lmao. I am fully aware of the irony of this reply when I said two days ago that we can only regulate our own behavior here. I just feel bad for Nathan considering who his father is, so I'm going to go easy on him while he is a minor. I am also going to try and make this comment the last time I speak of him.

I think I agree with this, I don't come from Kiwifarms, I come from 4chan so we have an entirely different perspective on Nathan but yeah I get what you're saying. However, I will still continue to think that meds or his father being a piece of shit won't always be an excuse, and people aren't always going to be so lenient towards him because of that.

 

[do ut des]

Here's some summed up notes I took after watching a clip taken by someone on the vc:

Spoiler: pedo-debate notes

Age of Consent/Marriage
1. Nathan believes the age of consent should match age of marriage, both should be lowered.
2. Age of consent/marriage should be 12 female and 13-14 male.
3. Uses historical (Catholic/Sharia) justifications for his beliefs (ironic, lol)
Attraction to Underaged Females
1. Nathan says everyone is attracted to kids naturally, says pedophilia is a normal, biological thing.
2. Nathan calls himself a pedophile, saying if legal, at age 36 he would impregnate a 12-14 year old girl.
3. Mentions that he (at 14) had sex with an 11 year old girl. (Can't verify, will look into)
Puberty and Consent
1. Nathan claims children can consent (cites some sort of pseudoscience bs)
2. Uses very lose reasoning to justify early-pubescent children having sex with adults (18 & older)
3. Agrees with a (hypothetical) that there may be some 8-10 year olds that can also consent.
Pedophilia
1. Thinks pedophilia is "unrightfully discriminated against"
2. Claims everyone (up to 90-99%) of adults are pedophiles.
3. Once again, claims he is a pedophile and will remain this way for the remainder of his life.

Very sick, disgusting stuff. Personally, I don't give a fuck if you're 14 or 41, if you're thinking this way at all, you're a sick, depraved individual.

Tbh not to simp for nathan here, he is unhinged, but 99% of the points can be explained by him being 14 (meaning f.e. he obviously can be and is attracted to ppl his age [not 11 tho, thats sick shit]) or him just copying his dads points.

Doesnt make any point he made ok or correct, but tbh to this day i believe that if his mom and stepdad took away his internet or stopped interactions with destiny, he would become more normal within months.

I mean ffs that kid had a drug fueled mental breakdown on stream bc of his dad and neither hid mom nor social services got involved.

This just proved that destiny truely does destroy the life of snyone he touches.

 

[wood tiger]

He acted on dating someone 3 years his junior? You don't understand how that is different from a 41 year old dating an 11 year old?

And what is a DM from a random person to a recipient I can't even see supposed to convince me of? Where is the evidence of him fantasizing of being an abuser?

That was my thought this morning when I saw that.

Like this is factual proof without context outside your presentation or manufactured proof of your dislike [as an adult?] toward a child because you don't like the father.

Preachers daughter, sins of the father will be visited upon the offspring...even with a kids trolling or the ability as a child today to show the ideological growth process in regard to ignorance if not outright stupid of youth with social media as it is.

If he was anyone but destiny's kid would any of you care to highlight such childish ignorance/trolling.

Which brings me to another thing commenting on the discord pedo collective yet any adult not directly related to him wanting to join his discord pedo or not is weird as fuc.

No offense if the kid still lurks here since others said he was banned but even not agreeing with many of your fathers choices past year, adults not directly related to you wanting to be in you a child's discord even if not gross pedos are possibly looking to cozy up to you for dirt on your dad or an introduction by gaining your trust. [Such as imo Kelly joining a few months ago to cozy up to you for dirt while shaming your dad about being fat...<wonder was she looking for way in when he wasn't paying her to eat on screen anymore when given airtime as the lack of airtime with destiny resulted in calling him fat, trying to join your discord>]

 

[Cambiar]

I think he's about 125. I gave a range of 115-135.

135 isn't an outrageous score though. It's 1-2 per hundred white people. It's the smartest kid at an average white school. Loads of debate bros will be pushing this number. It's not that special.

You seem confused about what IQ is or what it measures or how it is measured. A lot of very intelligent people have verbal agility, however so do a lot of midwits and it isn't obvious their working memory isn't up to snuff, unless you listen to them talk a lot. You are tricked by fast talkers because they have the carefully curated appearance of intelligence, but it it isn't obvious what's really there without some scrutiny . Why do you think his brain imploded trying to work through the first question on a practice LSAT?

 

[do ut des]

You seem confused about what IQ is or what it measures or how it is measured. A lot of very intelligent people have verbal agility, however so do a lot of midwits and it isn't obvious their working memory isn't up to snuff, unless you listen to them talk a lot. You are tricked by fast talkers because they have the carefully curated appearance of intelligence, but it it isn't obvious what's really there without some scrutiny . Why do you think his brain imploded trying to work through the first question on a practice LSAT?

Tbf i dont get that obsession with IQ. In my experience, ppl (as long as they are like below an 85 IQ aka to stupid for even the army) achieve things in life bc they work hard for it, not bc they are just clever. When i was in law school there were a lot of ppl i could tell were very intelligent but that achieved average/below average results. The people on top of class (and the lawyers i know that are very sucessful) arent those things bc they are smart, but bc they worked hard for it.

I dont care how intelligent Destiny is, that fact that he doesnt even slightly attempt to resist his urges shows how disgusting he is. And its not even that hard to not type shit like "did your 12y/o smash?"

 

[Recycled Plastic]

Difference between Nathan and his dad is that clearly Nathan has acted on it at this age, which could spell horrible things for him down the road. Also, I don't think even Tiny would say this stuff

Okay, so which is it? Is Nathan a serial predator or a serial liar? You're talking about a fucking middle schooler. The only way Nathan gets attention is to act out, and as Destiny pays him less and less, expect him to ratchet the behavior up to higher and higher extremes. He's already publicly claiming he's a Nazi, and now a pedophile. We can only hope that this dangerous escalation fizzles out before he gets permanent damage, from himself or others.

Destiny, my question to you is how could you allow this to happen? Let's put aside the fact you've allowed your kid to have a discord server filled with predators before he's old enough for a learner's permit. Right now, your kid is SCREAMING for attention and guidance. He's willing to say anything for it, and soon he's going to be willing to do anything. If you care about him at all, you will book a flight going to Nebraska tomorrow. You will apologize to him for failing as a father, you will set and enforce healthy boundaries for his internet presence, and you will vow to be a more active presence in his life.

Unfortunately for Nathan, I don't think you're going to do any of that. Instead, you're going to continue on your present course, which involves the complete negligence of your only child as you chase BPD pussy before your drain circling influence is gone for good. Prove me wrong.

 

[Meelo]

"He's just another edgy teenager bro"
Sure, and when this kid grows up to be a creepy pill-popping ghoul like his dad, don't tell me I was right, because I already knew that.

 

[Cambiar]

Tbf i dont get that obsession with IQ.

I agree and don't really care for it either, but it is annoying to hear people shoot from the hip about it so much or imply it's no big deal for someone to be in the 99th percentile for scores.

 

[The Wall of Ambition]

I think he's about 125. I gave a range of 115-135.

Honestly, I think he'd score 100-115. Destiny has verbal talents, which is to say that his debate skills didn't start at 0. That's why he started getting into debate content in the first place, he noticed that he was quite good at it despite having never practiced. Sometimes, people are just good at stuff for no reason.

The reason I'm not convinced he would score highly is because I notice a stark contrast between his presentation and his outcomes. I don't think a guy with an IQ of 135 would live Destiny's life. A guy with a 135 IQ would not have dropped out of college and probably wouldn't have majored in Music (no offense to the music lovers out there). A guy with an IQ of 135 would not end up as a carpet cleaner who lucked into streaming. People with IQs that high become lawyers, doctors, and engineers. A guy with a 135 IQ who is a sex addict would not have moved to a state with a 6-week abortion ban, then learn after a full year of living there that the state has a 6-week abortion ban (I wish I had that clip lmao). Even with your estimate of 125, guys like that become Analysts and Accountants. Destiny is good at talking, yes. But he is ultimately a carpet cleaner who put in a lot of hours and got very lucky.

Tbf i dont get that obsession with IQ

I agree but studies have proven that IQ does have a correlation with life outcomes. It's a useful tool. If I am wrong and Destiny really is high-IQ, then he is at least proof that EQ matters more. I don't put him below 100 because he does seem to demonstrate a good ability to study. I think people below certain IQs just deadass do not possess the ability to do that. Plenty of people with high IQs also can't study. It's a skill, and I think possessing it does say something about intelligence to some extent.

Edit: In fairness, I was wrong with the abortion thing. Destiny moved to Florida long before that law came into effect. I do still think it's funny that a sex addict wouldn't keep up with the abortion laws in his state.

 

[Gog of Magog]

IQ without EQ is a sword without a sheath. Early efficacy until it rusts and dulls and injures the user. Destiny is one of the least emotionally intelligent people in the entire political space, and that's really saying something. He has no way to empathize with his own son, with Palestinians, with the families of flood victims, with victims of shootings, because he has no ground floor moralities. He just gets through life being "edgy", his audience always worries about "optics" and he ignores them while he himself is ignored by both major political parties and their mafia's.

Whether he is smart. or quick, or effective at debate adds no weight to the value he brings to the political space, he is as useless as they come. Just a daycare for incels and rape apologists. Nathan has the opportunity to do the funniest thing!

 

[Molestiny]

Destiny has been setting up Nathan to destroy his life like he is doing now since he was a small child by bringing him on stream. Every time he would bring him on stream he would get huge amounts of validation for saying outrageous things. Just doing a search on livestream fails for Destiny and Nathan yields dozens of clips ranging back almost a decade:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/search/?q=nathan&cId=467cd731-6300-4854-b85a-8e2124862a23&iId=afe1e1d9-c69e-49c6-8d40-92bd37e26e14

Here is an example of things Nathan would be saying on stream (he's 10 years old here), to an audience of thousands:

https://livestreamfails.com/clip/118792

I found clips as far back as 9 years ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/547mfo/nathan_finally_gets_destiny/

Meaning Nathan has been online exposed to Destiny's audience from the age of 5. What the actual fuck.

To me, this is the most sickening clip:

https://livestreamfails.com/clip/118788

So not only will he abandon his own son, he will also use his him when he's a 10 year old, on stream to defend him by letting him say that he didnt abandon him. Can this "human" sink any lower?

Pointing out that bad behavior is then framed by Destiny and the footsoldiers as an attack on his son. He is essentially using his son as a shield, while simultaniously milking him for content for a decade on stream, exposing him to these very same attacks by his own actions.

This dude is legitimately fucking evil, and deserves to die from the aids that is infesting his wretched cum-stained skin suit.

In regards to Destiny's intelligence I will refer to my previous post on his debating "skills":

Most of what Destiny says makes no sense logically. This is usually not an issue 90% of the time because he's just on his own stream preaching to his own cult. He thrives in a fast-paced conversation format because in those situations he can usually scrape by getting cheap dunks in or fake passionate, fast paced, soy rants so his audience can spam GODSTINY like clapping seals in his DGG chat. He's a twitter soy poster personified.

In most of his debates it is either uninteresting truisms that he repeats from wikipedia, and when he actually has to think for himself to formulate an argument it is usually completely nonsensical. This is the entire reason for the fast-paced talking style, he doesn't want the debate to slow down so the stupid shit he's saying can actually be analyzed.

This is also why most of his debates are unmoderated and on his own stream. He can kick people, mute them, start playing piano over what they're saying or just scream at them when he gets ultra spergy. When he's actually in a 3rd party party debate formal, especially a live format he either:

1. Comes off as a retarded unlikable sperg
2. Switches to being an ultra mild mannered conversational eel that doesnt really challenge what his opponent is saying because he knows that he will look retarded if he tries.

 

[TitusOvid]

Is there anything he can do for his cult to turn on him? It’s absurd he still has fans.

 

[Molestiny]

Is there anything he can do for his cult to turn on him? It’s absurd he still has fans.

Go to prison for an extended period of time, revoking his internet access.

 

[>IMPLYING]

Is there anything he can do for his cult to turn on him? It’s absurd he still has fans.

P Diddy had fans/defenders outside the court cheering for him despite the case being so open and shut to even casual observers that "Diddy"/"Diddying" became a verb.

 

[Netwatch]

Is there anything he can do for his cult to turn on him? It’s absurd he still has fans.

No. He could go full right wing grifter and they would support him. He could murder someone and they would support him. He could come out as a pedophile who has molested hundreds of children and they would support him. There is nothing he could do to alienate his cult. DGG is the reason he has stayed relevant for so long, but if Tiny could magically change and not be a gross fucking freak, DGG would also be the thing that would prevent him from growing past a certain side.

 

[Universal Balance]

Tbf i dont get that obsession with IQ. In my experience, ppl (as long as they are like below an 85 IQ aka to stupid for even the army) achieve things in life bc they work hard for it, not bc they are just clever.

This is 100% true. High IQ is like physical talent, it doesn’t matter that much until you’re competing against others who have maximised their effort and optimized their practice and you’re in a high position in a field where it really matters. I’d say its like being a sprinter, you can be an exceptional sprinter with effort and beat all of your peers, but you’ll probably still never beat Usain Bolt.

I won’t say how I know, because no matter how I frame it, it looks retarded on the internet. However, there are high IQ underachievers. In fact one of the most entertaining things is watching someone go into a group of high IQ people, only to realize that its a microcosm of society, down to mixed political beliefs, education and skill levels. They get very upset that the image in their head doesnt match reality.

I stand by the fact that Destiny is either average to beneath average IQ. His skill in internate debate tactics is what gives the impression of intelligence in the same way his emotional outbursts give the impression of honesty. Watch him enough, with scrutiny and you’ll see it’s all very mechanical.

Now as for Nathan I really dont want to talk about him. He’s a teenager and I remember how retarded and gross I was as a teenager. How he is now is not necessarily what he will be as an adult, which makes this more sad. Regardless, Nathan is 100% Destiny and the porcine thing he impregnated’s fault. I’m pretty traditional so I’d lay most of the blame at Quasimetho’s feet because it’s mostly his duty to guide his child. If he cant fulfill the basics of his duty to his son then his only value is as compost to feed new life.

 

[chilly like a villy]

"He's just another edgy teenager bro"
Sure, and when this kid grows up to be a creepy pill-popping ghoul like his dad, don't tell me I was right, because I already knew that.

Spoiler: ...

Idgaf about being right.
I hope the best for him and wish for him to be able to overcome having the father he does - why?
Because I know he reads here and he cares what people on the internet think because his father is a clout goblin who programmed him. I will hold hope for him always.
Your life in no way improves by being right that a child was let down.

Wishing the best for n8 is like Occam's razor Pascal's Wager (philo 101 prof failed me). You're always better off just believing in him.

 

[WebFelching]

JSTLK (PBUH) is on stream right now getting into the Rose being underage aspect of things here timestamp around 1:55:00

I just caught the end of it but it seems like he is aware of the common footsie talking points and the correct (alt account) rebuttals