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Should be a wild four years.

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Trump knows his base is retarded and can play them into thinking the files never existed
I think they are going to do the exact same thing they did with JFK, release 12000 pages of technically related info but its all a nothing burger and its so much that people give up 12 pages in so the admin gets a dual win they can say they released the information and have been transparent and at the same time the people subconsciously take the guilt for not fully reading the provided info to PROVE they are releasing nothingburgers and unless you do that in the back of your head you are like "well I dident even read the stuff they DID release so how can I call for more?"

they are working overtime to get a shitload of tangential documents that give people nothing but at the same time give them a SEA of that nothingness to drown in
 
Oh yeah. Check out this thread. There's a disturbing number of people downplaying it because it's Daddy Trump doing it
Just as many if not more who aren't buying into it though.

MAGA has always been full of mostly normal people with basic principles and opinion polling shows Trumps approval cratering among his base over this issue. For all your talk of MAGA being a nationwide cult, the cult appears to be small and ineffective at protecting daddy right now from the consequences of his actions.
 
Yeah you're kinda not getting the message of what I'm saying,
No, it’s clear that you think that an 18 year old is not grown and consequently cannot make any decisions for themselves which directly contributes to the infantilization of adults. Those lowered expectations mean these people delay the transition into adulthood which is a disservice to them. They will be less capable, less confident, and unable to take the reins to preserve western civilization.
Most 18 year olds are not financially stable enough to afford having children
Children, especially young children, are not expensive. There are people out there who will give you all their lightly used things for free.
 
The reason we have ended up with all these people who can’t do adult things is because we keep pushing out the expectations for some reason, probably to kill birth rates because why would we want 18-25 year olds reproducing in their prime fertility years.

Thomas Jefferson was 33 when he wrote the Declaration of Independence. At age 33, your average Millennial is posting proudly on Facebook about "adulting."
 
Show me where I said they were.

Then why do we allow 18-20 year olds to serve and vote? Why do we allow them to enter into contracts, to take loans, or get married? The reason we have ended up with all these people who can’t do adult things is because we keep pushing out the expectations for some reason, probably to kill birth rates because why would we want 18-25 year olds reproducing in their prime fertility years.

This has nothing to do with the age of consent and everything to do with treating adults as adults. Comparing 14 year olds to 18 year olds is asinine.
The discussion you were butting into to complain about "infantilizing adults" was about the fact that most of the victims were 14-16 age range which means it wasn't that big of a deal because the age of consent in other countries can go as low as 16 or 14. The user you responded to correctly pointed out that 18 is the legal line in America and at 18 you still aren't fully developed which is absolutely true, it's a proven fact and anyone over the age of 25 will tell you that. 18 year olds aren't allowed to drink and smoke because doing so hinders develuping minds such as 18-20 year olds. The argument you entered was about if raping 14-16 year olds is a big deal because of foreign country's age of consent laws, and you defended the side arguing it's not a big deal because they are practically adults. You can't swarm your way out of it like a worm.

I'm not commenting on any age of consent or how developed are 18 year olds debates anymore, the fact that people are going that far to try and defend the government covering up Epstein is peak clown world.
 
Schizo theory: What if the list was never real to begin with?
The intelligence agencies have straight up believed in lies and made up shit beforehand (sometimes making up said shit themselves) and to help create a narrative, often with the intent of creating a satisfying conclusion. A customer list would be a neat bow to tie on the Epstein story as it means everyone involved can be pursued, but so far the only major figure implicated was been Prince Andrew and he was more taken down by someone speaking out, but so far no one else has really done.
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What if Epstein claimed the existence of a list but possessed no physical copy of said list, and was in fact just a list of names he was willing to give up to save his own skin? Or what if the flight logs were the list he meant and we've been stuck in a miscommunication loop for the past 6 or 7 years?

However, to claim the existence of a "list" means that there are parties and individuals more guilty than those in the flight logs so the names in the flight logs are semi-absolved, when in reality the flight logs is all we in fact have and we should in fact me looking with far more scrutiny the names we do know rather than a hypothetical laundry list of paedophile elites that may or may not actually exist?
The schizo theory I've seen is that Trump has deliberately done a 180 on the Epstein stuff to get the democrats riled up demanding the list released, I think the democrats already brought it up in congress, and when the demand reaches fever pitch Trump releases the list destroying all his enemies and bringing America into a utopia.

It's such a batshit theory that I actually think it might be the closest to reality considering how mental the world has gone.
 
I want to start by saying I think its important to enforce our borders and not allow people to live her illegally, I MEAN TO POINT OUT A LOGISTICAL PROBLEM NOT DOOM please lisetn with open heart and mind THEN you can call me a gormless fool
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Alright lets take 6 million as the easy round number alright?
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Ok quick maths time

In order to deport JUST the illegals that came in under Biden, Trump would need to deport OVER 4,000 people A DAY
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So far the Admin is averaging about 14k a month when in a 30 day month you need to hit OVER 100k and once again this si just to get us out of the hole biden got us in ther is likely twice as many more than that total.
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This mainly boils down to the fact we are deporting people via planes and thats absurdly slow, we need either much more rail lines to central america or start building ships for the purpose, both solutions run into very tricky historical comparisons, trains will be likened to aushwitz and boats will be likened to slave boats, I know I know, its fucking retarted im just explaining the issue not saying I agree.

Open to the class, what are others sollutions or stuff I might be missing, do you all think that somehow that trump is going to get the air lifts to 120k people + a month?
 
Just as many if not more who aren't buying into it though.

MAGA has always been full of mostly normal people with basic principles and opinion polling shows Trumps approval cratering among his base over this issue. For all your talk of MAGA being a nationwide cult, the cult appears to be small and ineffective at protecting daddy right now from the consequences of his actions.
Odd isn't it? After kamala nearly destroyed the democrat party after biden's absolute nightmare 4 years, the dems still said she 'ran a perfect campaign' and Joe was 'the best president everrrr' yet those faggots call MAGA a cult when Trump's getting more friendly fire than I've seen so fast and hard. The 'vote blue no matter who' side calling conservatives cultist is the worst case of projection possible.
 
Odd isn't it? After kamala nearly destroyed the democrat party after biden's absolute nightmare 4 years, the dems still said she 'ran a perfect campaign' and Joe was 'the best president everrrr' yet those faggots call MAGA a cult when Trump's getting more friendly fire than I've seen so fast and hard. The 'vote blue no matter who' side calling conservatives cultist is the worst case of projection possible.
I don't think bragging about your side fracturing and falling apart at the seams is the own you think it is.
 
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