UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

Tom Nook's Gloryhole · Sunday at 7:35 AM

Lovebombing always cracks me up, there's virtually no difference between lovebombing and seduction. Pretty sure it's only seen as toxic nowadays because the concept of only wanting one person and not treating a date as one of the twenty five people lined up feels so foreign in modern dating. Couples who fell in love hard at the start and are still together are obviously not going to have a problem with 'lovebombing' so it's generally only bitter exes who will talk about it.

emptypacketofmethadone · Sunday at 7:46 AM

Tom Nook's Gloryhole said:
Lovebombing always cracks me up, there's virtually no difference between lovebombing and seduction. Pretty sure it's only seen as toxic nowadays because the concept of only wanting one person and not treating a date as one of the twenty five people lined up feels so foreign in modern dating. Couples who fell in love hard at the start and are still together are obviously not going to have a problem with 'lovebombing' so it's generally only bitter exes who will talk about it.

'Lovebombing' is just a way for people to persecute their family and friends for being nice to them

Morethanabitfoolish · Sunday at 7:52 AM

Otterly said:
Again I’m not wanting to blame people for what happens because some people can be very convincing and it’s always and only the fault of the perpetrator, but the inability of the general public to detect a bad ‘un is weird

I think part of it is a lot of people are inclined to give others the benefit of the doubt and try to see the best in them. Some of it can be an excess of empathy, others is part of being nice but I'm not insightful enough to nail it down precisely.

Chunky Salsa · Sunday at 8:02 AM

Arguing with women about choosing better men is like arguing with gym bros about tribal tats. You're never going to win, there's no point. It devolves into hysterical denials of reality. You should choose better, be more discerning; make better decisions. Don't get that shitty tattoo, don't go with the guy that is obviously abusive; and they almost always are comically and blatantly abusive.

Morethanabitfoolish said:
I think part of it is a lot of people are inclined to give others the benefit of the doubt and try to see the best in them. Some of it can be an excess of empathy, others is part of being nice but I'm not insightful enough to nail it down precisely.

If I'm being generous, it's because a lot of people are confrontation averse and predatory people use that as a way to stay in peoples lives. A sunk cost fallacy from the victim combined with basic bitch manipulation tactics from the perpetrator.
If I'm being non-generous, I'd say it's because some people are just perpetual victims who refuse to just take action.

I think the peoples families should just lynch the abusers. When my sister got abused - thankfully only once - me and my friends drove around in a friends van looking for him. Not sure what we would have done, but a bunch of young lads in a group probably would have gotten ourselves arrested.

I've had female friends and family members get slapped around, and each time it's happened they've had dozens of people - myself included - say "Hey, this guys seems like an absolute lunatic, leave him." They don't. At some point you have to shrug and go 'you've been told to not go down that alleyway, you're a big boy/girl, you can make your own choices.' and let the dice fall. The police are useless, a lot of the time less than useless and will actively punish both parties with slaps on the wrist. Which sounds like a 'oh that's pointless' but actually means that when you get to court the defence can simply point to the police cautioning and punishing both parties and use that to cast reasonable doubt at the violent man.

Abuse is a theoretically complicated issue, with a very simple solution; kill the abuser. However the abuser typically tries to find people that are ripe for abuse; and society refuses to let you just clean house properly.

teriyakiburns · Sunday at 8:05 AM

'Great British Energy solar panels' were made in China

The first schools in England to install what the government described as "Great British Energy solar panels" bought them from Chinese firms, the BBC has learned.

The first 11 schools involved in the GB Energy scheme bought solar panels from Aiko and Longi, two Chinese firms.

The government said the scheme was "the first major project for Great British Energy - a company owned by the British people, for the British people".

Labour MP Sarah Champion said GB Energy should be buying solar panels from companies in the UK rather than China, where there have been allegations of forced labour in supply chains.

"I'm really excited about the principle of GB Energy," she told BBC News.

"But it's taxpayers' money and we should not be supporting slave labour with that money. And wherever possible, we should be supporting good working practices and buy British if we can."

She added: "That means that yes, unfortunately, in the short term, solar panels are probably going to be slightly more expensive.

"There are solar panels made around the world in Taiwan, Canada, even in the UK."

Longi and Aiko both told the BBC they forbid forced labour in their production and supply chains.

China is the world's leading producer of solar panels and the suppliers in the Xinjiang region have been linked to the alleged exploitation of Uyghur Muslims.

Earlier this year, the law was changed to ban GB Energy from investing in renewables if there is evidence of modern slavery in their production.

China has dominated the market and, according to the International Energy Agency, the country's global share in all the manufacturing stages of solar panels exceeds 80%.

Champion, who is chair of the International Development Select Committee, said "abuse in renewable supply chains is insidious and hard to root out".

But she urged ministers to exclude known human-rights offenders from winning public contracts.

A GB Energy spokesperson said all of the solar contracts issued under the schools initiative complied with the UK's modern slavery rules.
The Xinjiang challenge

Up to 50% of the world's supply of polysilicon - a key component in solar panels - is estimated to come from the Xinjiang region.

Mark Candlish is the director of GB-Sol, which calls itself the only manufacturer of conventional solar panels in the UK.

He said polysilicon was "a key social issue facing our industry, with the risk of forced labour in the main mining areas".

He added: "The global solar market is so dominated by China that it is difficult to avoid buying Chinese if you want the low cost energy and low carbon benefits of solar PV."

Many businesses and governments - including the UK's - buy Chinese solar panels because they are cheaper than those made elsewhere.

Two thirds (68%) of the solar panels imported by the UK came from China in 2024, according to HMRC trade data. That's an increase on the figure in 2023, when Chinese products accounted for 61% of UK solar imports.

A report by Sheffield Hallam University in 2023 linked various solar companies to suppliers in the Xinjiang region.

One of the report's authors, Alan Crawford, said the general lack of transparency in the entire solar supply chain was greater now than it was in 2023, when his Over-Exposed report was published.

"Companies that were willing to comment are now silent," he said.

'Ethical supply chains'

GB Energy is a state-owned company that was set up by the Labour government to invest in renewables, such as solar power.

In its first big investment, GB Energy is spending about £200m on rooftop solar for 200 schools and NHS hospitals across the country.

The first tranche of this funding has been spent on the Chinese solar panels for the 11 schools.

The Department for Education told the BBC which companies had made the solar panels in response to a freedom of information request.

A GB Energy spokesperson said the company would "lead the way in ethical supply chains" and insisted there was "no place for forced labour or unethical practices in the UK's energy transition".

The spokesperson added: "That is why we are introducing a statutory duty on Great British Energy to prevent modern slavery in its supply chains, and reviewing supplier transparency and disclosure standards to ensure confidence in all public-facing renewable programmes.

"All contracts issued under this schools and hospitals solar initiative complied with UK procurement rules, including extensive requirements under the Modern Slavery Act.

"GBE will seek to uphold these requirements in its contracting arrangements and are actively engaging with international partners to raise the bar globally on solar supply chain accountability."

China has been accused of committing crimes against humanity against the Uyghur population and other mostly-Muslim ethnic groups in the north-western region of Xinjiang.

In state-sponsored programmes, detainees are forced to produce goods including polysilicon, a core ingredient in solar panels, according to the US Department of Labor.

The Chinese government has denied all allegations of human rights abuses in Xinjiang.

Longi and Aiko are both members of the Solar Stewardship Initiative, which is a scheme designed to develop confidence in the supply chain and the responsible sourcing of solar panels.

An Aiko spokesperson said the company was "committed to upholding the highest standards of ethical business conduct and responsible sourcing".

"We take any concerns related to human rights and labour practices seriously and expect our suppliers to do the same," the spokesperson said.

"As part of our ongoing efforts, we engage with suppliers to promote transparency and continuous improvement in line with international guidelines. We are also closely monitoring global supply chain developments and remain committed to working with stakeholders to support a fair and sustainable solar industry."

Longi said it regretted the findings of the Sheffield Hallam University report and "categorically affirms that forced labour has no place within our supply chain".

A company spokesperson said the conclusions in the Over-Exposed report "may not fully reflect the comprehensive measures Longi has implemented to ensure full compliance with international labour standards".

"Independent third-party audits play a critical role in verifying compliance and identifying potential risks," the spokesperson said.

"While the complexity of global supply chains presents challenges, Longi remains steadfast in its efforts to eliminate any risks associated with forced labour."

Amin Yasister · Sunday at 8:19 AM

radicalradishranger said:
I do but I go to gocompare, order by price and choose the cheapest package at £13. I don't read the terms and conditions but I don't think it would bring my body back if I died from being a drunken idiot in a hotel pool.

Seems that they weren't drunk, but they drowned because of the shape of the pool.

And most travel insurance to Europe from UK typically has repatriation coverage, which includes bringing a body back if the policyholder died abroad.

Go wild!

Made In Wales · Sunday at 8:43 AM

Some afternoon headlines:

Man dies after car 'ploughs into Albert Bow pub' in Bow, London in horror crash as two people arrested:

https://www.gbnews.com/news/london-news-man-dies-car-ploughs-pub

https://archive.ph/wip/uViOz

Asylum seekers caught 'running illegal porn business' in taxpayer funded hotel in Blackpool:

https://www.gbnews.com/news/migrant-crisis-asylum-seekers-onlyfans-taxpayer-hotel

https://archive.ph/W44TP

Astronomer CEO resigns after being caught on kiss-cam with co-worker at Coldplay concert:

https://www.gbnews.com/news/us/astronomer-ceo-resigns-kiss-cam-co-worker-coldplay

https://archive.ph/wip/ou5tG

Rachel Reeves set to sell £5bn in seized Bitcoin in bid to plug 'black hole' in Budget:

https://www.gbnews.com/politics/rachel-reeves-sell-seized-bitcoin-black-hole

https://archive.ph/ird2N

Labour MP brands 'transphobes' as 'swivel-eyed loons' in leaked audio recording:

https://www.gbnews.com/politics/labour-mp-tim-roca-transphobes-swivel-eyed-loons-university

https://archive.ph/wip/OgTGF

Keir Starmer’s left-wing purge sparks Labour panic as rebels warn PM ‘rolling out red carpet for Nigel Farage’:

https://www.gbnews.com/politics/keir-starmer-labour-panic-rebels-nigel-farage-reform-uk

https://archive.ph/wip/llkYv

Brahma · Sunday at 8:53 AM

teriyakiburns said:
Even if you take it as given that there are genuine paragons of virtue among them (which I have to, I think, because my old GP fits that mould), it doesn't change the calculus. The "good ones" make up only a tiny fraction of the total population, to the point that they only even appear if there is a very large population of dregs to accompany them. This means, absent some system that only allows "good ones" to enter the country, the presence of even a small number of those supreme gentlemen is by itself an indication that you have a serious problem.

This and they also provide cover for the dregs. If there's always a good Dr or that nice Mr Singh who runs the corner shop to point to as a good one, we get bogged down in the weeds instead of making progress. Send them all home. Mr Singh and the good doctor can apply to re enter under some kind of sane system. They can even have bonus points if their previous stay was problem free.

Someone's got to lose out though. There's too many legal immigrants already, never mind all the illegals.

ToroidalBoat said:
"Straight sex bad, gay sex good!"?

(Maybe they aren't getting to outright banning all straight porn yet, but they're banning the more extreme kinds first?)

I can't see them banning straight porn. That'll take a giga-Hitler RVTURN to Victoriana level switch in the people embedded in the digital, civil and government institutions.

They can't square the circle of "promiscuity and sex work is good and legitimate and you should encourage your daughters to be whores and even better if they earn money from it" and "men just want to use women for sex and porn is making them sexually violent".

The two are linked I'm fully sure. We're into decade three of full throttle women sexuality = good, men sexuality = bad and I don't really see any signs of the breaks being applied

emptypacketofmethadone said:
Every woman I know would flip out if a bloke tried to strangle them during sex, it's not normal

I suspect we might end up talking past each other here, but no man I know is into choking but plenty have been asked to do it by a woman, me included.

And my male friend group isn't exactly shy about this stuff, I know arguably "worse" stuff from the perspective of sex about them than if they were in to choking.

Now I don't know if it's a genuine desire on the part of some women or one of those "I think guys like it so I better do it" but in my linked survey it's 100% instigated by the woman

DreinMeinVein · Sunday at 8:59 AM

emptypacketofmethadone said:
The more logical solution is just for men to not be cruel rather than expecting women to be mindreaders and anticipate which men are cruel.

Well, the source of the problem is the cruel and dangerous men. That's true.

But then we get back into "Just teach men not to rape – so women can feel confident walking alone down an alleyway half-dressed at night time."
Every man knows rape is evil. That's why in social hierarchy the rapists are only above the pedos. That's never stopped rape from happening.

Don't hate me for saying it, but the wife beaters are always going to exist too.
It's not that normal men want to make excuses for the arseholes; we hate them too. It's just that they will always exist. Sometimes they're obvious to spot, but too many women seem to miss those signs. We all have stories, just as we have stories about men who've married absolute loony birds. Perhaps we're all as bad as each other. Some men and women are terrible judges of character.

Hey, this isn't the Tranny Sideshows thread! Do we Brits often derail into a men vs women argument?

Re. Choking porn: I won't notice it's gone.

ETA @Otterly had me ninja'd on almost every point.

the printer is outo fink · Sunday at 9:02 AM

Otterly said:
The way they speak and act and react is all a huge tell. But a lot of people do not look. They can’t tell when they’re being lied to - I know some people are extremely convincing liars but most aren’t and it’s generally obvious if someone’s lying to you. The pedoface and AGP smirk are things that have really struck me since Ive been on here.
Some people are just not good at detecting very obvious cues. Again I’m not wanting to blame people for what happens because some people can be very convincing and it’s always and only the fault of the perpetrator, but the inability of the general public to detect a bad ‘un is weird

I know you aren't specifically referring to romantic relationships, but in terms of those, traditionally people paired up with a partner when quite young, late teens-early 20s. It's very easy to make bad choices at those ages as you just don't have enough life experience to recognise certain signs. Which is why, I assume, traditionally there was also more parental input into the marriages of young adults. (Though that's corruptible too for financial/societal reasons.)

I used to think I was a terrible judge of character but in the last few years I've realised that the people I've trusted but shouldn't have, often gave me terrible vibes on first meeting, and I overrode that initial instinct. I came up with reasons in my own head about why I didn't like them and convinced myself to be more open-minded about them. Then inevitably went on to watch them fuck over other people, and sometimes me. It's made me pay attention now when I get an initial bad vibe from someone, and I'm very, very glad, I learned how to do that before I met my first AGP.

Tom Nook's Gloryhole · Sunday at 9:12 AM

Chunky Salsa said:
If I'm being non-generous, I'd say it's because some people are just perpetual victims who refuse to just take action.

That's the glaringly obvious thing I always see nobody willing to touch when it comes to talking about domestic violence and sexual assault.

There's a certain type of person who is easily trusting and struggles with risk perception, I've noticed it a lot in autistic women because they can typically mask 90% of their regular human actions but it leaves a glaring blind spot when it comes to finding partners. They'll believe lies because why would anyone lie? They can be easily manipulated because they struggle with regulating how they perceive themselves ("but babe, you were really into it"). So they're incredibly vulnerable to being raped, abused, financially manipulated etc.

And there's nothing that the average person can really do to prevent this. We can't tell autistic women to stick to themselves and don't date anyone, meanwhile we also can't regulate someone else's relationship even if we think they're being manipulated.

Morethanabitfoolish · Sunday at 9:18 AM

Made In Wales said:
Labour MP brands 'transphobes' as 'swivel-eyed loons' in leaked audio recording:

He also admits that he and his colleagues are trying to ensure that the next head of the EHRC is on board.

https://archive.ph/32cxu

A Labour backbencher has been filmed deriding “transphobes” as “swivel-eyed” and suggesting they are “not very well people”.
Tim Roca described the Supreme Court judgment on trans rights as “very depressing” and rejected his own party’s stance that it had brought “clarity”.
In a leaked recording, obtained by The Telegraph, he also said Parliament was a “toxic cesspit” and other MPs were motivated by “fear, envy, greed”.
Mr Roca was elected as the first ever Labour MP for Macclesfield last year, winning a seat which had been represented by the Tories since 1918.
He made the remarks during a talk he gave earlier this month at an event hosted by the University of Westminster, called Queering Academia.
“I think actually the UK has now really gone down the rabbit hole into the way the United States discusses issues of gender, race, poverty, all of that,” he said.

“So if we can bring the debate back into being one based on rationalism and compassion – and actually as we know, the facts – I think that’s a much better place for all of us to be.
“What we can’t be, is we can’t look like the alternative version of the transphobes. The best argument against them is a conversation with them, because they look swivel-eyed and honestly, they’re not very well people, I don’t think, the ones that I’ve met.
“So we have to make sure, as passionate we are, that we’re talking passionately but sensibly and bringing people around.”
https://archive.ph/o/32cxu/https://...overnment-disobey-supreme-court-trans-ruling/
Mr Roca has described himself as “Macclesfield’s first openly gay” MP and said his first act on getting the job last year was to join the town’s Pride march.
He said “the most toxic element” of his campaign to get elected were the “anti-trans voices”, claiming he had been heckled and had “stuff thrown at me”.
Speaking at a panel event titled Leading While Queer, he attacked the Supreme Court judgment that womanhood is legally defined by biological sex.
He also criticised Baroness Falkner, the outgoing chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC), and said Labour MPs were pushing for a pro-Trans replacement.

Baroness Falkner came under attack from Left-wing backbenchers after the watchdog issued guidance in light of the verdict, banning trans women from female toilets.
“I challenged the equalities watchdog after that very depressing Supreme Court judgment,” the Macclesfield MP said.
“The EHRC is clearly led by somebody who is not a friend of our community. In my view, I want to make sure the next head of the EHRC is somebody who is a friend of our community.
“And I’ve got colleagues in Parliament who are working really, really hard on that. But challenging the EHRC interim guidance, which is appalling, was really, really important.”

He disputed that the judgment had brought “clarity”, saying it had “caused fear and incredible uncertainty and…undermined protections” for trans people.
In doing so he was directly contradicting the Prime Minister, who said in the immediate aftermath of the verdict that he welcomed the “real clarity” it brought.
During his speech, Mr Roca also criticised David Rutley, his Tory predecessor, as a “terrible Member of Parliament”, singling him out for his Mormon faith.

He said that he had been “struck by how toxic Parliament is” and said the building itself favoured those who were privately educated.
“You’ve got the full gamut of human qualities there – the most amazing people really fighting for incredible principles and values,” he said.
“You’ve also got people who are motivated by fear, envy, greed, all sorts. And it’s a bonkers building, it’s like Hogwarts by the river.
“Buildings shape how you function very, very often, and if you’re educated in Oxbridge or a public school, Westminster feels perfect for you.”

At one point during a question-and-answer session Mr Roca also appeared to oppose his own party’s policy of lowering the voting age to 16.
In the remarks, made before Angela Rayner unveiled reforms this week to extend the vote to 16-year-olds, he said the change risked benefitting Reform.
He said that while Nigel Farage had boosted his popularity with the young on social media sites like TikTok, content produced by Labour MPs was “pretty naff”.

“I’m really worried [about] the number of young people who really like Reform,” he said.
“We need to be alive to the risk of Reform, alive to the risk of money like Elon Musk’s flooding our political system.
“I want there to be another Labour government, but I think we need to have a system that’s ready for the challenges that Reform pose as well.”

The video was passed on to the Telegraph by James Esses, a psychotherapist, campaigner and founder of Just Therapy.
He said: “For an elected member of Parliament to speak with such disdain for the Supreme Court, the Chair of the EHRC, and those across society concerned about the impact of gender ideology on women’s rights and child safeguarding, is shocking.
“However, my gut tells me that this is how your average Labour MP thinks and that should concern us all.”
Mr Roca was contacted for comment.

Video is a great one. It should be played on a regular basis to show how entrenched the insanity is.

Overly Serious · Sunday at 9:32 AM

This'll be my last post on the subject because a series of fun little tangents keeps a thread interesting. But ones that go on too long are derailments.

emptypacketofmethadone said:
Wholeheartedly disagree. There are instances of very introverted men, doctors, pastors, lawyers, judges committing horrific acts of abuse. Chris Watts who murdered his entire family to run away with another broad was considered an upstanding citizen, and he's far from the only one. Domestic violence refuges in my country are full, how probable is it that all those women had received warning signs that the guy was trouble? Most domestic violence victims I have met were partnered with introverted, educated and well-spoken men with no reason to fear in the initial stages.

Why on Earth would you think a man being shy and introverted is a counter-red flag? If anything my experience has shown me the opposite. Pretty much all men have the potential to be a predator. A man who is confident enough to talk to a woman normally, in a group, has a bunch of male friends - ime far less likely to be some weird predator. A mob of such guys are also far more likely to be of use if you are being bothered by a such a predator. I'll add to my previous comment the fact that some women seem unable to distinguish between non-threatening to other men and non-threatening to them.

emptypacketofmethadone said:
I would argue that if a woman starts a relationship with someone who is very obviously a wigger or who hails from a ghetto or dodgy upbringing would be unwise, but nonetheless it doesn't mean the man is justified in bringing her to any harm.

Where did I say anything about "justified" or placing moral blame? Don't put words in my mouth.

emptypacketofmethadone said:
That said, if I were female, I would certainly avoid men from certain backgrounds and cultures.

For some reason I had thought you were female. So then, please stop telling the women on this forum what their experiences are, because most of us men don't want be tarred with the negative stereotype you're living out.

emptypacketofmethadone said:
There is no legal loophole in my country that excuses the abuser of a battered woman if he presented with a 'tough guy' or 'thug' image and thus she 'should have seen it coming'. I have never even heard an argument made by any defence lawyer of an abuser in a court that his client should be precluded from accountability because of his image.

Again, where did I mention the law? I talk of cause and effect. I'm getting a clear picture of your issue here. You navigate the world through a maze of moral blame and legal/not-legal. You're one of those people whose thought process take an external authority as their starting point. This causes you to bring in a lot of assumptions based on a context that only exists in your head. Nobody else, I think, has been saying this stuff as legal advice. We're more concerned with a woman not being hurt than being able to assign blame over it. You, the inverse.

emptypacketofmethadone said:
Most women who enter into relationships with thugs are likely also from a Dickensian upbringing, which explains the pairing. Can you think of a white-collar, well-to-do man in a respectable profession seeking a woman from a slum?

I don't come from an especially fancy background but I did manage to end up with a well-paying "white-collar profession" as you call it. And it never bothered me a woman's background. And in fact I did date some girls from some pretty rough backgrounds. It's different for us - if a girl is attractive to us, we get on, we don't generally need a particular social status. As to "Dickensian upbringing", what the Hell are you on? "Cor guv'nor. Wot's a gent like you doin wiv a poor washer girl from the workhouse like meself?"

emptypacketofmethadone said:
Inversely, I have yet to hear of a male abuse victim being asked why he didn't 'choose better'?

Really? I think you have but your mind just doesn't interpret it as such. We ask each other "why the Fuck did you go out with her in the first place" all the time. You'll also here about male abuse victims a lot less in general mind you. We're taken less seriously if we talk about our girlfriend assaulting us. At least by the State and usually by women.

emptypacketofmethadone said:
The idea of 'choosing better' , for either ~~gender~~ sex, is highly illogical:

Nothing illogical about it. Trying to choose a good partner is logical self-interest for both parties. Though in evolutionary terms more so for the woman because she ends up pregnant. Hopefully it works out but if Ogg the caveman made a bad choice he can leave. Oggetta is stuck with the consequences for some time. You saying something is not an argument.

emptypacketofmethadone said:
(but I suspect that you already know that in your heart of hearts and simply delight in the pain of women).

(Sincerely, a man with a cock and two fully functioning bollocks who has actually lives in the world and knows people who've been abused.)

Yeah, that's the other reason that after this post I'm done with the topic. No reason I should put up with nasty comments like the above.

Otterly said:
It isn’t restricted to women though, bad judgement.

Oh, I know. Believe me, I really, really know. : (

We get stuck in abusive relationships too, it just usually takes a different form. One we're often as ill-equipped to deal with as most women are to deal with physical abuse.

I don't know why some of us are such suckers for the crazy ones and honestly by this point, I think I don't want that self-knowledge. 'Be careful' is good advice to all parties. The specifics of how are merely different.

I will say a great piece of advice for guys, and maybe it works for women too, is watch how your proto-partner treats those beneath them. Staff, waitresses, anyone they perceive themselves as having the power over. When I realised what a bitch my partner was to people other than myself, it really helped me see her from a more detached perspective.

Otterly said:
I’m convinced this is where the lizard people stuff comes from. Some people are so off putting and unpleasant they trigger this ‘run’ response and yet our ability to realise this is being trained out of us hard by the media and social engineering. You’re left with your primal instincts telling you this person will do very bad things and your higher brain telling you you’re a bigot if you even entertain the idea and the clash won’t resolve.
People need to listen to their gut more. It’s rarely wrong

Yep. Took me quite a long time before I realised some people just can't or wont see what is in front of them.

Anyway, this topic is worldwide. And this thread is for Britain-specific stuff. So I am done with this here. And @emptypacketofmethadone you can fuck right off with that "you simply delight in the pain of women" shit.

EDIT:

Brahma said:
I suspect we might end up talking past each other here, but no man I know is into choking but plenty have been asked to do it by a woman, me included.

It wasn't choking in my cases but yes, I've been asked by a couple of partners to do things that frankly, were abusive and which I wasn't actually that keen on doing.

Chunky Salsa · Sunday at 9:38 AM

Overly Serious said:
For some reason I had thought you were female.

Because they clearly are and are lying, or are so gay and emasculated they sound exactly like a woman lmao. No man writes like they do unless they suck on plastic bags all day.

EDIT Re: Choking porn. One of the most common defences that men who murder their wives via strangulation use is 'They just like rough sex'. It's probably not a good thing that the proliferation of ultra-violent and extreme porn is so casually accepted. Nothing will actually change though since the government is incapable of interacting with the internet with anything approaching even room temperature IQ.

Otterly · Sunday at 9:42 AM

Made In Wales said:
Rachel Reeves set to sell £5bn in seized Bitcoin in bid to plug 'black hole' in Budget:

My goodness how did this woman get financial control??

Brahma said:
can't see them banning straight porn. That'll take a giga-Hitler RVTURN to Victoriana level switch in the people embedded in the digital, civil and government institutions.

The victorians were very into porn

the printer is outo fink said:
I know you aren't specifically referring to romantic relationships, but in terms of those, traditionally people paired up with a partner when quite young, late teens-early 20s. It's very easy to make bad choices at those ages as you just don't have enough life experience to recognise certain signs.

Yeah that’s a very good point. Anyone very young and naive is easy prey unless they have a family looking after them.

the printer is outo fink said:
I used to think I was a terrible judge of character but in the last few years I've realised that the people I've trusted but shouldn't have, often gave me terrible vibes on first meeting, and I over road that initial instinct. I came up with reasons in my own head about why I didn't like them and convinced myself to be more open-minded about them.

Yeah that really resonates. Trust your gut, and when someone is telling you you MUST love someone and must hate others ask why.
I cannot believe reeves is selling five bill of bitcoins. You stupid idiot, Rachel. Spunking future gains up the wall so we can pay for 24 thousand Afghan traitors to come here. A ten year old is better at money management

EddyRooney · Sunday at 9:57 AM

"The level of ego behind that statement. "

DreinMeinVein · Sunday at 9:59 AM

Morethanabitfoolish said:
I think part of it is a lot of people are inclined to give others the benefit of the doubt and try to see the best in them. Some of it can be an excess of empathy, others is part of being nice but I'm not insightful enough to nail it down precisely.

Had this exact chat with a friend recently.

I said I like to treat everyone as a blank slate on first meeting. Their vibes will soon tell me whether I need to need to exercise caution. I'd rather default to friendliness and go from there.
My mate said he can tell right away, immediately, what he's dealing with and he'll stick to that first impression.

The difference between me and this friend? I work a career where it's important to get along with new people. The day goes smoothly if everyone gets along with each other.
This mate, he's a copper. The stakes are high if you read a person wrongly.

We agreed that neither of us would invite someone into our homes (or bed, especially if we were women) if we detected any red flags.
That's not to say that some won't slip through the net. We all know it happens. But we also know of many cases, men and women, who have had a big brown flag waved in their faces and failed to see the warning.

And I would agree that it's a big brown flag if your partner tries to choke on a first shag. Or ever tries choking you without asking. Even then it's a bit weird, but who am I to judge 'cause I just ain't into choking sex. Autoerotic asphyxiation has killed many perves. It's definitely a niche type of buzz, not one you want forced on you.

What else is happening in the UK? I'm going to click some @Made In Wales links for something a little less throttley.

Overly Serious · Sunday at 10:03 AM

Otterly said:
I cannot believe reeves is selling five bill of bitcoins. You stupid idiot, Rachel. Spunking future gains up the wall so we can pay for 24 thousand Afghan traitors to come here. A ten year old is better at money management

Isn't announcing that you're about to sell off 5bn in Bitcoin going to tank the price of Bitcoin? Wouldn't it be better to sell it off quietly?

Brahma · Sunday at 10:05 AM

Otterly said:
The victorians were very into porn

Huh, really? TIL. I'm guessing not at the level of "guy telling his mates down the pub to subscribe to his daughter's OF that he helps with as her manager" though.

emptypacketofmethadone · Sunday at 10:14 AM

@Overly Serious
All I said was that women are not responsible for their abuse at the hands of violent men. It's not a nuanced issue that needs a diatribe of rebuttals to every sentence I included in my post. It doesn't matter if a man is extroverted, introverted, a congressman or a drug dealer, it's never on women to assume responsibility for how a man has treated her. Abusers don't have 'abuser' written on their foreheads.

If you think women deserve abuse because you believe that they possess a secret abuser-radar, just say that.

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