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The Nebbish and the Muscle Jew​

Archetypes of Jewish Masculinity​


Maddie Neiman
Jun 13, 2018

Meet the Nebbish; he wheezes, he aches, he slouches, he wrings his hands.

He is a nervous creature lacking in social graces. Haunted by all manner of complexes and phobias. He is instantly recognizable if not by his inability to face life’s daily hiccups, than by his physical form. The Nebbish is often hunched, as if folding in on himself. His arms either timidly and defensively stay close to his body, or writhe in the air in some spastic display of discontent.

Whether the Nebbish is knock-kneed or asthmatic, his physical shortcomings serve to stand in direct opposition to health, capability, and manhood. And as for his Jewishness, it is not a fitment of the character, but rather a parameter of the archetype itself.

In direct contrast to the Nebbish is the ‘New Jew’ or ‘The Muscle Jew’, broad shouldered and perpetually upright. He is void of the bookishness and introspection associated with Ashkenazi culture. The Muscle Jew does not live inside himself as the Nebbish does. His life instead is defined by acts of reproducing, providing, and colonizing.

The disparities between the two prominent archetypes of Jewish masculinity is sizable. And considering how small this intersection of ethnicity and gender is, the divide is chasmic. A large fissure through a grain of rice.

When considering which narrative grants Jewish men emancipation from a predetermined “Jewish form”, the answer is quite clearly; neither. Both the creation of Muscle Jews and the embrace of The Nebbish have, at some point, mirrored anti-Semitic depictions of Jewish masculinity. In the case of The Nebbish character Jewish entertainers take-on a persona with striking resemblance to the Jew of Nazi propaganda. Perhaps even serving as a testament to its success; so insidious that it is perpetuated today by Jews themselves. While, in attempts to create an oppositional identity to the feeble and victimized Jews of the Diaspora, the Muscle Jew movement further caricatured European Jewish men. And yet, both archetypes hold historical, Talmudic claim to Jewish identity.

The Case for the Nebbish

Consumers of popular culture enjoy a media diet overrun with Jewish entertainers proudly playing to this convention. The combined efforts of Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David have created a kind of Nebbish Cinematic Universe, in which wobbly chairs and improper greetings warrant entire story arcs, and complaints are always presented with that signature groaning cadence (“He’s nice…bit of a close talker”).

The traits of The Nebbish cannot be divorced from his Jewishness, as American playwright Rachel Shukert puts it “The Nebbish is always Jewish, even if he’s not actually a Jew, to the point where he’s become synonymous with Jewish manhood itself, embedded, if you will, in his DNA.”

When the cannon of a character rubs up against their perceived Jewishness, an almost feverish confusion is kicked up among fans and scholars alike. The neurosis of George Costanza (Jason Alexander) mixed with the absence of a direct mention to his Judaism, qualifies him as what Jeffrey Shandler would call a “Crypto Jew”; a characters who “while nominally identified as having some other ethnicity or religion, are nonetheless regarded [by some viewers and even some creators] as Jews in disguise.” Inversely, the stated Jewishness of Brooklyn 99’s boyish and dangerous detective Jake Peralta (Andy Samberg) is met with suspicion. Some viewers even show dismay that Sandberg, an actor who proclaims his appearance cannot be identified with anything but Jewishness, fails to brandish a character with more Nebbish traits.

Though, just as often as you can spot this caricature in prime-time TV, can you see it in WWII era anti-Semitic propaganda. In the German children’s book “Trust No Fox on his Green Heath and No Jew on his Oath”, the image of a broad-chested German stands alongside round, lumbering Jew.

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Figure 1
“ But the Germans — they stand foursquare.
Look, children, and the two compare,
The German and the Jew.
Take a good look at the two
In the picture drawn for you.
A joke — you think it is only that?
Easy to guess which is which, I say:
The German stands up, the Jew gives way.
The German is a proud young man,
Able to work and able to fight.
Because he is a fine big chap,

For danger does not care a rap…”

However, to conclude that Jews who proudly wield their Nebbish-ness are suffering from internalized anti-Semitism is a misstep in the eyes of some Jewish scholars. In his book Unheroic Conduct:The Rise of Heterosexuality and the Invention of the Jewish Male, historian Daniel Boyarin argues the Jewish men have historically seen themselves as gentle and unimposing. Asserting that the “feminized” male is the “Jewish ideal going back to the Babylonian Talmud.” And of the inflammatory images seen throughout history of the impotent Jew, Boyarin argues that it is “more than just an anti-Semitic stereotype” but an “assertive historical product of Jewish culture.”

In this view, the idiosyncrasies of our most prominent pop-culture Nebbishes are an expression of essentially Jewish sensibilities. While the thoughtful and bookish Jewish man has been caricatured and weaponized by the Nazi state, the archetype is now back in the control of Jewish creators themselves where it can be characteristically challenged, prodded and fussed over.

The Case for the Muscle Jew

By the turn of the 20th century, the growing Zionist movement began to promote an alternative form of Jewish manhood, known as “Muscular Judaism”. The movement looked eastward, to a land where the diasporic Jew could step into the sun; feet planted, arms akimbo. In a seemingly inevitable crossing of nationalist aesthetics, this rebranding of the Jewish body produced imagery uncannily similar to the German Aryan/anti-Jew ( insert figure 2, as compared to figure 1)

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Figure 2

So was the Muscle Jew just an internalization of the Aryan ideal? Max Nordau, credited with establishing the archetype in his 1903 “Muskeljudentum” (Muscular Judaism) article, would give a resounding Nein. Muskeljudentum is laden with references to a once mighty Jewish form, famously stating “History is our witness that such a Jewry had once existed…“Let us take up our oldest traditions; let us once more become deep-chested, sturdy, sharp-eyed men.”

When considered in the greater context of the Zionist movement, it is clear why adhering to such a narrative was crucial. Zionism is built on the idea of the return. The entire validity of the movement is based on a kind of homecoming to the original Jewish self-identity, an identity that can come to fruition by a mass ‘return’ to Israel, and to the Hebrew language. To suggest that the “Muscle Jew” is an imposition on original and familiar ideas of Jewishness, is to question the basis of Zionism itself. Yet, even when divorced from the political urgency of the early 1900s, there are those that still argue the traditional self-concept of the Jewish body is one of power and sensuality.

“We read of the Jews who attempted to rebuild the Temple using the trowel with one hand, while with the other they warded off the blows of the molesting enemy. Where are the warrior-mechanics today equal to either feat… Let our first care to-day be the re-establishment of our physical strength, the reconstruction of our national organism…” -An Epistle to the Hebrews
In his book, The Jewish Body, anthropologist Melvin Konner writes “Long before their enemies described the Jewish body, Jews themselves defined it …Some writers such as Philip Roth have depicted Jews as being anti-sex, but that is a complete myth. Celibacy has never been a Jewish ideal, and some Talmudic sages are depicted as lusty, handsome fellows with large sexual organs.” Thus, the self-effacement of shtetl dwellers was never an expression of traditionally Jewish sensibilities, but rather of oppression. The Jewish masculinity presented by the likes of Woody Allen and Phillip Roth is a sad endorsement of anti-Semitic tropes, and a failure to acknowledge the strength and fortitude that must be present in a people to have survived such persecution.

Furthermore, the Muscle Jew is not some discarded concept, left to history. While the Nebbish wins out in the Western cultural zeitgeist, the Muscle Jew holds sizable space in the Israeli consciousness, expressed through attitudes toward fertility, military service.

Evolving the Conversation​

The original self-concept of Jewish masculinity will, in all likelihood, continue to be debated. What is left out of this conversation however, is the notion that men don’t have to be tied to the gender conventions of their ethnicity. Whether the Nebbish or Muscle Jew is the one of the Talmud, it hardly defines what Jewish men ought to be.

It is a marker of our time that individuals can craft their own gender identity (or at least, are beginning to). Jewish men must not be tied to rigid gender conventions, while the world around him does away with such boundaries. When the origin of Jewish masculinity is no longer relevant in our discourse of today’s Jewish men, and when the Jewish form is recognized as too varied to be described by a set of archetypes; then the Jewish body may finally be liberated.

Sources​

Almog, Shmuel. 1991. “JUDAISM AS ILLNESS’: ANTISEMITIC STEREOTYPE AND SELF-IMAGE’”. In History Of European Ideas, 793. Great Britain: Pergamon Press. https://www.sciencedirect.com/sdfe/pdf/download/eid/1-s2.0-019165999190142L/first-page-pdf.

Boyarin, Daniel. 1997. Unheroic Conduct: The Rise Of Heterosexuality And The Invention Of The Jewish Man.
University of California Press.

& Figure 1 Bytwerk, Randall. 2003. “Trust No Fox On His Green Heath And No Jew On His Oath”. Research.Calvin.Edu. http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/fuchs.htm.
(original work by Elvira Bauer, 1936).

Conforti, Yitzhak. 2011. “‘The New Jew’ In The Zionist Movement: Ideology And Historiography”. Academia.Edu. http://www.academia.edu/2218726/The_New_Jew_in_the_Zionist_Movement_Ideology_and_Historiography

Konner, Melvin. 2014. “The Jewish Body? What Is That?”. Melvinkonner.Com. http://www.melvinkonner.com/wp-cont...-Jewish-Body-Jewish-Museum-of-Berlin-2014.pdf.

Lazarus, Emma. 1882. “An Epistle to the Hebrews”. American Hebrew

Figure 2 Mechner, Ernst, and Otte Wallisch. A Nation Reborn. 1940. Yanker Collection, Library of Congress. Jewish National Fund. https://www.palestineposterproject.org/poster/a-nation-reborn.

Nordau, Max. 1903. “Muskeljudentum”. Jiidische Turnzeitung issue 2

Shukert, Rachel. 2012. “Where Did The Figure Of The Nebbish Come From?”. Tablet Magazine. http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/90124/helpless.


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Ashekaznim's average IQ is one standard deviation above north Europeans
I think this is one of those factoids that gets self referenced Into reality, and I’ve never seen solid data showing it. The high IQ bit of Northern Europe seems to be centered over that kind of Sweden/western southern Finland/UK/denmark area.
Pisa scores are rubbish, by the way, they’re highly selected. Which is why the orientals come out so well - they pick the most hothoused middle class kids in Shanghai and say they’re representative of the country at large.
 
His problem is with how it's taught but that's entirely on his own secular Jewish community, they chose to sanitize it and there's consequences to sanitization.
That's the funny thing about Eli Valley, to whom I've started paying attention out of a Sonichu-like morbid fascination. He points out things that he's correct to point out, but then subjects them to a completely deranged evaluation. It's right to say that Hanukkah has been deracinated and domesticated and Christmasified beyond recognition, but it's nuts to follow that up with, "Gee, those horrible Maccabees were so mean and intolerant, it would have been much better if they'd just lain down and allowed the Seleucids to buttfuck them to death."

Natalia Ginzburg does the best job of summing up this kind of attitude:

After the war, we loved and pitied the Jews who went to Israel, thinking that they’d survived an extermination, that they were homeless and had nowhere to go. We loved them for their memories of suffering, their fragility, their weary gait, and their shoulders weighed down by fear. These traits are the ones we love in humans today. We were not at all prepared to see the Jews become a powerful, aggressive, and vengeful nation. We hoped that they would be a small, cozy, powerless country, all its citizens retaining their frail, bitter, thoughtful, and solitary physiognomies.

She seems ready to reinvent Christianity all by herself.
 
I think this is one of those factoids that gets self referenced Into reality, and I’ve never seen solid data showing it. The high IQ bit of Northern Europe seems to be centered over that kind of Sweden/western southern Finland/UK/denmark area.
Pisa scores are rubbish, by the way, they’re highly selected. Which is why the orientals come out so well - they pick the most hothoused middle class kids in Shanghai and say they’re representative of the country at large.
This is factually incorrect and astroturfed. I have yet to meet a smart jew in my entire life, and the only ones who appear smart are the most cunning ones like lawyers whose entire jobs it is to look like you know what you're talking about. Their kind loves fiddling with numbers and statistics, so it's wise to ignore anything they say at face value anyways.
 
I see. Well, it's good to know my factually correct comment you did not disprove made you seethe so much.
I'm the one seething? You're the one making definitive statements about a country and getting upset over someone from that country is telling you you're wrong.

I know you're a /pol/tard that has trouble understanding anything not fed to you from your circlejerk imageboard but a simple Google search of garinim

Israel was never the largest per capital consumers of pistachio seeds, you got that from an unsourced claim in the Jewish Journal

The countries with the highest levels of pistachio per capita consumption in 2019 were Iran (5.90 kg per person), Turkey (3.18 kg per person) and Hong Kong SAR (3.12 kg per person). Like other nuts, pistachios are consumed primarily as a snack.

Sunflowers seeds are far more commonly consumed

This is factually incorrect and astroturfed. I have yet to meet a smart jew in my entire life, and the only ones who appear smart are the most cunning ones like lawyers whose entire jobs it is to look like you know what you're talking about. Their kind loves fiddling with numbers and statistics, so it's wise to ignore anything they say at face value anyways.
Retard who claims that whatever /pol/ says is right somehow thinks Jews are stupid despite Israel being at the cutting edge of research and the high percentage of Jews that have won nobel prizes. Guess the secular nonjewish nobel committee is somehow compromised.

I think this is one of those factoids that gets self referenced Into reality, and I’ve never seen solid data showing it. The high IQ bit of Northern Europe seems to be centered over that kind of Sweden/western southern Finland/UK/denmark area.
Pisa scores are rubbish, by the way, they’re highly selected. Which is why the orientals come out so well - they pick the most hothoused middle class kids in Shanghai and say they’re representative of the country at large.
I doubt it's true but even if it's true, doesn't mean anything. IQ is a measure of potential and says nothing about how that potential is achieved. A 95 IQ guy who works hard and founds a successful business is far more successful than a 120 IQ guy who sits in his mom's basement and seethes about the jooz
 
While I'm Canadian, my parents are Israeli so I've been exposed to quite a decent amount of both Israeli and American Jew culture, it's quite crazy just how different they are. There's a massive cultural divide between the two that many on the outside are unaware of despite the typical Westerner typically grouping them together. And yes, Israelis very much prioritize masculinity, strength and nationalism way more due to how militarized the country is. Many American Jews have easy cushioned lives just like any upper middle class citizen and ironically conform to the behavior that many anti-Semites accuse them of.
I've heard from American Jews that Israeli Jews cannot STAND leftist American Jews and any Jew that comes from a Liberal Synagogue who then visits Israel and starts lecturing on human rights/women's rights/gay/tranny stuff
 
IQ is a measure of potential and says nothing about how that potential is achieved
A one SD difference would be beyond what I believe. I will believe that Ashkenazi have a decently high IQ and it’s fair to say Israel is over represented in science. I’d put them roughly on a par with northern euros and japs if I was being objective. Not one SD above.
Didn’t know you had a toddler. Two is a cute age, get working on another one, 2-3 years between them is the ideal gap IMO.
 
Are there even such a thing as American Jewry, outside of the orthodox, given the outbreeding and mixed marriages?
Yes but it's in decline.

Most Liberal Jews have zero to 1 kid and Conservative Jews have 1-2 MAYBE 3 max.

Insanely high divorce rates, plus late marriages.

Most Jewish communities are aging rapidly and now concentrate in essentially 10 metro areas on the USA. 2-3 on the East Coast, two in Florida, three in the center of the USA and 2-3 on the West Coast and that's it.

Outside of those areas Jews are really rare.
 
A one SD difference would be beyond what I believe. I will believe that Ashkenazi have a decently high IQ and it’s fair to say Israel is over represented in science. I’d put them roughly on a par with northern euros and japs if I was being objective. Not one SD above.
Didn’t know you had a toddler. Two is a cute age, get working on another one, 2-3 years between them is the ideal gap IMO.

I'm pretty sure they are over-represented because the line between science and weapons development requires an electron microscope to find.

Even just off the top of my head there is so much. A lot of the stuff that made Dupont and 3M filthy rich in the 50's came directly out of the war (Nylon for parachutes, Teflon to coat anything that might touch Hexafluoride during the enrichment process)... and then there is 'Gain of Function' research, communications, encryption, logistics, battlefield pharma/medical applications and all that. They are literally over there trying to come up with new chemicals that smell extra bad to spray on people.
 
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Severe cope and ignores the beautiful mizrahi/Sephardi women
Didn’t know that this was a thirst thread, but I was about to mention that some of the North African/Yemenite Israelis also look alright.

Then again, it’s that Mediterranean DNA. Spanish/Italian women really are gorgeous.

Ashkenazi Jewesses? Oh hell no. They’re not particularly good looking, hit the wall before 30 and turn into chubby little Shtetl goblins.

And it’s absolutely not cope: Israel has a substantial part of its population that is 100% Russian/Ukrainian/Moldavian etc. So much for your home for the master race.

Unless you want to redefine Zionism as: “Movement for a homeland for Jewish people… And over a million Russians who bribed a party official with a bottle of vodka.”
Those are all Ukrainian models they pay to play pretend for recruitment purposes.
Maybe. I’m talking about ones I’ve met IRL though.
 
Severe cope. Somehow all the beautiful women in Israel that you see are Ukrainian models. I know you're a schizo old man but come on
Lmao the best you have is Abigail Shapiro who is a dog with big tits. There's a reason for all your bluster, you don't have supporting evidence. You can search instagram and TikTok for hot USA soldiers and find a million, the only attractive girls in IDF uniforms are clearly modeled. Not one candid.
 
Lmao the best you have is Abigail Shapiro who is a dog with big tits. There's a reason for all your bluster, you don't have supporting evidence. You can search instagram and TikTok for hot USA soldiers and find a million, the only attractive girls in IDF uniforms are clearly modeled. Not one candid.
Look up pictures of the tel aviv Beach. You have to be gay to not find the women there hot
 
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