US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Current members of the House of Representatives
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Current members of the US Supreme Court
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Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[whiterock]

Why was woke more successful now than it was in the 90s?

It had time to stew in its own shit during Bush and 2008. Plus teh interwebz was accessible to the wealthy and college educated first. Institutional capture by boomer libs, total cultural control by the 2010s, and ideological narrowing towards gay race communism eating away dissent.

The lumpenproles got online during lockdown right around the Floydening and captured culture by sheer numbers and flooded the podcast market previously dominated by NPR and Chapo Trap House. There’s one degree of separation between Trump and Hawk Tuah girl, which is kind of all you need for popular support.

 

[Mister Fister]

No, people afraid that woke ideology was widespread and would tank their business is what destroyed lives and careers. Not one single woke boycott had any negative impact on a company.

It was and still is a joke. Woke essentially burned 60 years of built up political capital in every domain they influenced to have one lame-duck term as President. In exchange they lost control of the Supreme Court + both houses of congress, they lost nationwide enforced abortion via roe v. Wade, the Civil Rights act was gutted, they lost affirmative action, they lost their foreign propaganda arm in USAID, they lost their stranglehold over education via the DOE being gutted, they have no viable presidential candidates or platform because of woke, the list is endless. Every institution they used to gatekeep and manufacture respectability has lost its reputation. That is the definition of a joke and we didn't even have to violate our cultural norms to destroy it.

They tried a cultural revolution to stop Trump in the most desperate/retarded way

 

[inetsone]

I mean, maybe the early 90s weren't as bad, but I remember the late 90s being insanely insufferable. Not as much with term/word policing in modern society, but it was the slow start of the rot that would eventually take everything considered edgy or interesting, like Something Awful.

This may sound fucking retarded but hear me out: I always thought it was a combo of things which needed to be accomplished in parallel through the 80s and 90s before we got to the 2010s when the situation was ripe for full on woke. Here they are...

1. Slowing co-opting the punk movement, where dissidence and political awareness was actively encouraged and you could say whatever you wanted and criticize anyone and everything.
2. The escalating destruction by the CIA of the African-American community through crack and glamorization of violence with gangsta rap.
3. Importing enough immigrants to provide a balance against the African-American community so blacks had the loudest but most minority voice within the coming woke movement.
4. Gaining corporate control of the public internet as it was expanded and rolled out as a surveillance tool for the govt, initially in a de-centralized way to motivate adoption.

So as noted by @CharlesBarkley, 90s were just priming the pump before those other things were ready to get the cake baked.

 

[Rimanah]

Why was woke more successful now than it was in the 90s?

@CharlesBarkley is right, leftism was definitely a problem in the 90s. The rhetoric at the time tended to call it political correctness rather than woke, but they were functionally the same. It was pervasive, if more understated about it. Especially in children's media, our favorite Captain being a prime example. I'd argue this in particular sowed the seeds for what we see now.

As for why it arguably achieved less institutional success, I'd chalk that up to the Republican Revolution preventing Clinton from being to extreme. Compare that to Obama who would have Dem's control both houses for his first two years, and wouldn't lose both until 2014's red wave.
But I think the best analysis is that the 90s and right now are inseparable, you wouldn't have the situation right now without the seeds sown then.

 

[big pauper]

Nigga you brought it up and argued about it until I pinned you by asking for concrete examples of me lying or breaking the rules then giving a concrete example of how you misunderstand basic things. Suddenly then it's off scope.

Why oh why would someone possibly do something like that? They must simply be one of those /pol/ 4channers, eh? Anti-Semites, the lot!

 

[Levitcus prime24]

Doesn't evil exist as a sort of filter for humanity? If evil didn't exist there'd be no way to determine who's truly worthy of salvation or not, since "evil" is, colloquially. a composite of temptations and actions that negatively affect the soul.

Another issue with the Epicurean paradox is that it pre-supposes an obligation from God to stop evil (never made) and puts in place the idea that God is incapable of self-limitation, which he demonstrated via his pact with humanity after flooding the earth. For example: God is omniscient (maybe? I find it contentious from what I've read) yet he got pissed off when they were crucifying Jesus, which shouldn't make any sense given he should already know it's going to happen anyway. Similarly he would've already known Abraham's commitment to him, yet he still asked for his son to be sacrificed. He similarly expressed anger in the old Testament to for numerous things I can't recall.

There's also the fact that God didn't create evil. It's in fact a product of the first humans making a choice that goes against God, and since evil is a product of humanity and God promised not to intervene in human affairs, stopping evil would be an intervention and thus a violation of his promise to man. This same promise might also apply to natural disasters and the like.

The Epicurean Paradox provides a limited selection of answers to why evil exists, but neglects the fact that we created evil.
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TLDR: "Evil" broadly covers a lot of actions many might consider slight or not evil at all, but I digress. "Evil" is a product of "Free Will". God promised not to impede our "Free Will". Ergo God cannot stop "Evil" without violating his promise.

Why are we arguing theology with someone who judging by their username likes big pens is up their ass?

 

[Nihil Jung]

Why was woke more successful now than it was in the 90s?

Because the anti-consumerist/anti-corporate edges that existed in the 90s got sanded off and now the corporations can get tons of publicity and ass pats for queerwashing everything and the conservatives who would have been turned off by it have become complacent about it due to overwhelming volume.

 

[harmy.kook]

Not one single

-Scott Cawthorn
-Notch
-That one bakery that got harassed because some black college students stole.
Tanking the business

Need more?
Or are you trying to downplay it once it's on the way out?

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Why oh why would someone possibly do something like that? They must simply be one of those /pol/ 4channers, eh? Anti-Semites, the lot!

You openly talked about getting your information from /pol/. It's not an insult when you stated it yourself. You're stuck now with no examples of me either breaking the rules or lying so you're seethingly trying to mock me to try to divert from that. I'm still waiting for any example you can dig up.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Can you tremendous faggots stop using this thread to argue with CTR?

CTR, can you please stop being a tremendous faggot and arguing with everyone? Don't you have to stop using electronics on Mondays or some shit? Jesus H. Christ.

 

[Turkey Beef]

Thanks to the cultural enrichment entailed in importing the dregs of the Fifth World, news in the Chicagoland area is never dull:

Immigration authorities in Chicago arrested a Mexican undocumented immigrant accused of decapitating a missing suburban woman and storing her body in a storage container filled with bleach.

Jose Luis Mendoza-Gonzalez, 52, of Waukegan, was arrested in April and charged with concealing a corpse, abusing a corpse, and obstruction of justice, according to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

Decapitating the women Americans won't decapitate is an obvious outcome of "diversity is our strength" retardery.

Under new management, the Feds manage to find more immediate threats than the mythical hobgoblin of white supremacists.

In April, police in Waukegan, found the body of 37-year-old Megan Bos, who was reported missing March 9, in a container in Mendoza-Gonzalez’s yard. …

Mendoza-Gonzalez was accused of keeping Bos’ body in his yard for nearly two months and abusing her corpse.

Mendoza-Gonzalez was at first released under an insane Illinois law. Gasps Antioch Mayor Scott Gartner:

“I was shocked to find out literally the next day that the person that they had arrested for this had been released from prison under the SAFE-T Act less than, detained less, I think, than 48 hours.”

Thankfully, ICE has him now.

Neoliberalism is not conducive to human flourishing, as Illinois makes clear.

 

[JustSomeDong]

Isn’t that a fancy bar in San Fran?

Sounds like a gay (redundant, I know) British Pub, to me.
Queue the Electric Six:

Do you need everywhere to be your hugbox

His username is your answer.

TLDR: "Evil" broadly covers a lot of actions many might consider slight or not evil at all, but I digress. "Evil" is a product of "Free Will". God promised not to impede our "Free Will". Ergo God cannot stop "Evil" without violating his promise.

I love the Farms, because I can always count on someone to make the effortposts I've grown too cynical and just plain lazy to make. I simply no longer care enough to explain to some retarded faggot (who won't listen anyways, much like the typical inner city negro in school, whose dick he claims to favor) to explain why his fedora-adorned r/atheism buzzword isn't akshually the Epic Own he thinks it is.

I learned one very important thing from the insufferable negress SJWs, and have enjoyed employing it myself, usually against same:
AINT MUH JOB TO EDEWKATE YO WHITE ASS, BITCH.

 

[BikeLock]

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"CAPTAIN FAGGOT, HE'S A QUEERMO, HE'S GOT A T-CELL COUNT BELOW ABSOLUTE ZERO!"

For real, fuck that faggot.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

Yo, if I have an ant farm, maybe I'll throw a red ant in that fucker once in a blue moon. I mean, not only does it make my black ants tougher and more aware, but it teaches them a life lesson that everything isn't a utopia and maybe to be ready if I drop a scorpion in that bitch. Therefore, they become super ants and shit, prepared for the cruelty of life but also appreciating their gay ass boring lives of picking up sticks and twigs and little leaves and shit. Maybe have a tiny ant coffee cup and enjoy the little things and their society of picking up random shit all day. Maybe a universal truth is revealed to them like "Goodness is great, evil large spiders = bad?"

I was raised southern baptist

Eewwwwwww

 

[Betonhaus]

Can we just threadban the kike and the faggot?

Just consider it inoculation so you can identify kikes elsewhere

 

[Pimp C]

Why was woke more successful now than it was in the 90s?

Look at how many Jews were in Biden's cabinet and you'll find your answer.

 

[Sensitive Young Man]

I was raised southern baptist

Things are starting to make more sense now

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Can you tremendous faggots stop using this thread to argue with CTR?

CTR, can you please stop being a tremendous faggot and arguing with everyone? Don't you have to stop using electronics on Mondays or some shit? Jesus H. Christ.

Friday night to Saturday night.

I was raised southern baptist

Arent those the Baptists that split bc they wanted to keep slaves

 

[BallsMcLongDong]

It gives me a right proper giggle that I caught a stray ban for the CTR-Others slapfight, and then exactly a month (and 5 days) later, it's started again.
Just ease the tardation, boys. You don't want to only be able to interact with your family thread via Dumb stickers.

 

[Turkey Beef]

CTR, can you please stop being a tremendous faggot and arguing with everyone? Don't you have to stop using electronics on Mondays or some shit? Jesus H. Christ.

CTR has zero self-awareness and he really should gas himself.