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SaidNoOneEver said:
The Macrons are suing Candace Owens in Delaware.

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Damn.... i did not know they cared that much lool
Northern Blockhead said:
The irony of ironies: MAGA, which has obsessed over supposed pedophilic cabals, is itself worshiping a potential pedophile. :story:
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Remains to be seen. Either way the truth will set you free drumf! confess and resign if necessary, got to much shit to do.
I Hate The Disabled said:
From what I've heard from the MAGA-sphere, they're pissed. The only people I've heard defending Trump are CatTurd and Ben Shapiro. Trump even got ratio'd on Truth Social.
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That's what annoys me so much, there was such a revolt that trump had to sperg on his own supporters and try and cast it off as a Dem psy-op.Yet all the nevertrumpers and dems that i KNOW do not give a damn about it are suddenly claiming this is the top issue and that the MAGAts are not saying anything
 
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browserbowser said:
Why is it there exists a certain kind of person whose answer to every problem is more subsidization.

It doesn't work any better on the back end than it does on the front end. For the same reasons.
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Then the next logical step is nationalization then, the issue there is that our current government is completely and totally retarded so that wouldn't work. You could also be like China and functionally (but not legally) own them.
 
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Then the next logical step is nationalization then, the issue there is that our current government is completely and totally retarded so that wouldn't work. You could also be like China and functionally (but not legally) own them.
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browserbowser said:
I was going to leave it at that but I want to point-blank ask you what you think money, that is, currency, even is as an entity.
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I know I added it a minute or two later, but still.

And no the problem isn't that 'the government is retarded' even if it is in fact retarded. The person who is more retarded is the one who thinks the country that had to de-nationalize its own agriculture industry in order for it to stop sucking shit so hard it killed people via famine to the tune of millions is a working example of how nationalizing agriculture is a workable solution.

Literally every time agriculture has been 'nationalized' there's been famine.
SaidNoOneEver said:
Word is she's making a deal to get out of prison. That would be a huge mistake since everyone knows that she'll say anything they tell her to and without the docs it just furthers the coverup narrative.
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She wants to get out of prison because the Trump admin just fucking told everyone that the person she was charged as an accomplice with dindu nuffin. She's openly claiming she dindu nuffin.

That said I was making a hyperbolic statement. I don't literally trust jizz lane over anybody. I simply do not trust the Trump admin whatsoever.
 
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She wants to get out of prison because the Trump admin just fucking told everyone that the person she was charged as an accomplice with dindu nuffin. She's openly claiming she dindu nuffin.
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The deal supposedly requires her to name names and that would only make Trump look worse for the feeble attempt to Jedi hand-wave it away last week..
 
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That's what annoys me so much, there was such a revolt that trump had to sperg on his own supporters and try and cast it off as a Dem psy-op.Yet all the nevertrumpers and dems that i KNOW do not give a damn about it are suddenly claiming this is the top issue and that the MAGAts are not saying anything
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Well, it's a top issue, because if elected officials are passing certain laws because they're being blackmailed, that's a serious problem.

The anti-American Democrats who hate MAGA ignore the fact that, they too, could've released the files. How they see this as an own is beyond me.

They'll call MAGA a cult, while said cult is hating on the so-called leader.
 
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There you see, the Trump administration tried getting the grand jury transcripts released and it was blocked.

U.S. District Judge Robin Rosenberg found that the Justice Department's request in Florida did not fall into any of the exceptions to rules requiring grand jury material be kept secret.
The Justice Department concluded in early July that there was not a basis to continue the Epstein probe, triggering a backlash among Trump's political base.
The grand jury transcripts in Florida related to the first federal sex trafficking probe of Epstein, which was run by the U.S. attorney's office in Miami.
Prosecutors agreed in 2007 not to bring federal charges against Epstein in exchange for him agreeing to plead guilty to state charges of solicitation of prostitution. He served 13 months in prison.
 
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browserbowser said:
I was going to leave it at that but I want to point-blank ask you what you think money, that is, currency, even is as an entity.
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A way of putting value on someones labor as an alternative to relying upon trading item for item. The cost of things are modified by the labor costs + supply and demand.
browserbowser said:
The person who is more retarded is the one who thinks the country that had to de-nationalize its own agriculture industry in order for it to stop sucking shit so hard it killed people via famine to the tune of millions is a working example of how nationalizing agriculture is a workable solution.
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I may have implicated that I think China's policy earlier on regarding their agricultural industry was good but I don't think that way; I just used it as an example for an alternative to direct nationalization rather than an example of it working. Note how I never stated that I want the industry to be nationalized but rather that it would be the next step above subsidization.
 
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Blewberry Nausea said:
There you see, the Trump administration tried getting the grand jury transcripts released and it was blocked.

U.S. District Judge Robin Rosenberg found that the Justice Department's request in Florida did not fall into any of the exceptions to rules requiring grand jury material be kept secret.
The Justice Department concluded in early July that there was not a basis to continue the Epstein probe, triggering a backlash among Trump's political base.
The grand jury transcripts in Florida related to the first federal sex trafficking probe of Epstein, which was run by the U.S. attorney's office in Miami.
Prosecutors agreed in 2007 not to bring federal charges against Epstein in exchange for him agreeing to plead guilty to state charges of solicitation of prostitution. He served 13 months in prison.
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…Rosenberg?
 
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A way of putting value on someones labor as an alternative to relying upon trading item for item. The cost of things are modified by the labor costs + supply and demand.
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Wrong.
gay porn is the best porn said:
Note how I never stated that I want the industry to be nationalized but rather that it would be the next step above subsidization.
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Okay and let's look at how you described subsidization:
gay porn is the best porn said:
the best way to lower food costs is to just further subsidize the industry
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So if you think it is the 'logical next step' that would imply that you believe it is a step that is worth taking as a second-best. Which would imply that you find it favorable.

And you said this in response to my point that subsidization on the back end doesn't work for the same reason that it doesn't work on the 'front end' (welfare, etc).

It's okay to not understand economics, I'm certainly not an 'expert'. But this isn't 'expert-level' economic theory we're discussing. Subsidization and nationalization do not work and only exacerbate the issues if not make issues that are an entire echelon worse such as outright famine or shortages in the case of nationalization.
 
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