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Should be a wild four years.

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Cite some of these ‘incessant’ examples. We’ve been over this many times already in this thread and the best people have come up with is maybe three examples, two of which were interviewers bringing it up.
This “Trump campaigned on releasing the Epstein files” is the most glaring fucking Mandela effect I’ve seen in a long time.
You may now commence you panic Googling.
Should be easy, there were over 120 campaign events to go through. Those around Trump mention Epstein but Trump himself talked more about mass deportations as solving that is higher priority. Who cares about a list when the country is demographically replaced with illegals and the average american is worse off because of it. I agree that everything about Epstein gets released but how can you be sure that everyone on his list actually diddle kids, gardeners, chefs and landscapers who work a day job or did some work for the guy and don't diddle kids could be on the list and regardless of them not diddling kids people would want their blood and their head on a pike solely for being on the list.
 
Has he made money being president? I know he lost a lot of money from lawsuits and legal fees during the Biden admin, also both of his campaigns he used a lot of his own money.
Trump selflessly campaigning using his own money is a myth he perpetrates to make himself seem more "down to earth" while he looks down on us from his golden toilet.

Trump coin, Melania coin, the gold shoes, the social media execs who (at least) paid for his inauguration, lawsuits of his own against various news agencies, the little-known things politicians can financially benefit from; access to contracts for their friends where the politician gets a bribe, the big fucking plane he was gifted by a foreign entity.

Trump also grifts relentlessly during his campaigns. When New York hit him with that really big fine not long after he was out of office, he grifted that. Trump has millions but will spend your money long before he taps into any of it.
 
Hot take, but this should be death penalty material.
Prison should exist as a deterrent to crime, not an ultimate punishment. If you've murdered 3 people, you deserve to die, end of story.
Not only cruel, but the costs of housing prisoners adds up quick.
You have to question if its worth it especially for niggers like this who can clearly never be redeemed.
A few gunshots in the back of the head is a quick and easy solution to this problem.
 
Not only cruel, but the costs of housing prisoners adds up quick.
You have to question if its worth it especially for niggers like this who can clearly never be redeemed.
A few gunshots in the back of the head is a quick and easy solution to this problem.
Obviously not cruel enough because fuckers keep wanting back in.
 
Not only cruel, but the costs of housing prisoners adds up quick.
You have to question if its worth it especially for niggers like this who can clearly never be redeemed.
A few gunshots in the back of the head is a quick and easy solution to this problem.
They're used as slave labor. Slavery is still allowed as punishment under the us constitution.
 
Trump selflessly campaigning using his own money is a myth he perpetrates to make himself seem more "down to earth" while he looks down on us from his golden toilet.

Trump coin, Melania coin, the gold shoes, the social media execs who (at least) paid for his inauguration, lawsuits of his own against various news agencies, the little-known things politicians can financially benefit from; access to contracts for their friends where the politician gets a bribe, the big fucking plane he was gifted by a foreign entity.

Trump also grifts relentlessly during his campaigns. When New York hit him with that really big fine not long after he was out of office, he grifted that. Trump has millions but will spend your money long before he taps into any of it.
So Trump grifts by selling products and services on the open market. Cool...
 
And thanks to Trump's actions, the next president will undoubtedly be a Democrat who will do exactly this. Millions have jumped off the Trump train thanks to the Epstein disaster.
>I don't want the country to be flooded with shitskins
>I agree that any democrat would flood the country with shitskins if they won the election
>I wish a Democrat won the most recent election because I'm predicting they will win the next one
>my predictions are wrong 100% of the time btw

Severe. Mental. Illness.
 
Trump coin, Melania coin, the gold shoes, the social media execs who (at least) paid for his inauguration, lawsuits of his own against various news agencies, the little-known things politicians can financially benefit from; access to contracts for their friends where the politician gets a bribe, the big fucking plane he was gifted by a foreign entity.
Don't forget the Trump Bible he sold. That's an all-timer.
 
Democrats Have Few Tools to Counter G.O.P. Redistricting
The New York Times (archive.ph)
By Nick Corasaniti and Laurel Rosenhall
2025-07-24 09:02:04GMT
With Republicans in Texas planning to redraw more favorable congressional maps this summer, as the party vies to maintain control of Congress next year, national Democratic leaders are vowing to use every tool at their disposal to counter what they see as a nakedly partisan power grab.

But the toolbox for Democrats is relatively sparse, aside from litigation or legislative protests.

Though Democratic leaders have indicated a willingness to go tit for tat with Republicans, most of the largest blue states do not have a partisan redistricting process akin to the one in Texas, where the governor can simply call in the Legislature to redraw maps.

California has an independent commission in charge of drawing maps, which voters applied to congressional districts in 2010. New York also has a commission (though it is subject to potential legislative changes), and New Jersey’s political commission is separate from the Legislature.

States where Democrats would have complete control over any redistricting, such as Illinois and Maryland, are already gerrymandered heavily in their favor. Squeezing more Democratic seats out of those states would be a challenge.

“Democrats’ leverage is quite limited, and that’s the problem,” said Steve Israel, a former Democratic member of Congress from New York who led the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee from 2011 to 2015. “Republicans are just more ruthless than Democrats. They play to break the rules, and Democrats play to enshrine the rules with fairer processes in places like California.”

While Democrats have their share of aggressive gerrymanders, blue states have led in embracing reforms to insulate redistricting from politics, such as creating an independent or bipartisan commission to agree on new maps.

Such actions — done in the name of good governance and often with significant support from voters — are now leaving Democrats in a bind.

Redistricting typically happens after the once-a-decade census, when districts must be adjusted for population changes to ensure equal representation in Congress and state legislatures. Occasionally, maps are drawn mid-decade, often as a result of a court order.

But Texas is heeding the entreaties of President Trump to create at least five new Republican districts and help stave off a potential midterm loss, as the party out of power in the White House often succeeds in congressional midterms. Texas has 38 seats in the House, with 25 in Republican hands.

The Republican governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, has defended the decision to redistrict, citing a recent federal court ruling that said districts made up of multiple minority communities — known as coalition districts — are no longer required by federal law (the court did not say, however, that these districts are illegal and must be redrawn).

Mr. Abbott has said the new maps will better allow Texans “to be able to vote for their candidate choice.” The special session he is calling is also meant to address the recent devastating floods in Texas.

Mr. Trump has been much more explicit about the partisan benefits he is seeking in Texas.

“I think we’ll get five,” Mr. Trump told reporters this month, referring to the number of potential new Republican seats in the state. Mr. Trump floated the possibility of redrawing other states’ maps as well to pick up more seats, but promised “Texas would be the biggest one.”

Infuriated Democrats vowed an equal opposing force.

“Never bring a knife to a gunfight,” Gov. Philip D. Murphy said during a news conference on Monday. He added that it was “too early” to decide if New Jersey would act, but did close with a pledge: “We’re from Jersey, baby, and we won’t be laying down.”

But New Jersey’s maps are drawn by a political commission, and with off-year elections for both governor and parts of the State Legislature, appetite for a risky political move may be waning.

At the same time, Gov. Gavin Newsom of California warned on social media: “Two can play this game.”

Mr. Newsom, however, cannot simply order a new round of redistricting; an independent commission draws California’s maps. But there is a path.

Representatives for Mr. Newsom have been in talks with Democratic leaders in Congress and in the State Legislature about their options, and California’s representatives have held related meetings.

One possibility would be to put a measure on the ballot asking voters to approve a change to California’s system, though that would require a special election, most likely later this year, so that the maps could take effect before the 2026 elections.

Another option would be for the Legislature to change California law to create a mid-decade map-drawing process or to change the members of the state’s redistricting commission. Such a move would most likely face litigation, but is not impossible, said Christian Grose, a political science professor at the University of Southern California.

“It’s not out of the question that the governor or the Legislature could at least try to make some changes,” Mr. Grose said, adding that “it would be a very big power grab.”

The Democratic-controlled states with the power to redistrict through their partisan legislatures are taking more of a wait-and-see approach. Carter Elliott, a spokesman for Gov. Wes Moore of Maryland, said the governor would “continue to evaluate all options.” A press officer for Gov. JB Pritzker of Illinois did not respond to requests for comment.

Illinois’s congressional delegation has a 14-to-3 Democratic advantage. Maryland’s is seven Democrats to one Republican. Both states would have to eliminate every Republican district to come close to offsetting the potential Texas changes.

“When there are no rules, there are no rules, and it wouldn’t surprise me if states start getting increasingly creative at the voters’ expense,” said Justin Levitt, a law professor at Loyola Law School who also served in the Biden administration. “Conventional constraints don’t exist if we’re really driving the car all the way off the cliff.”

“And absolutely none of this is good for democracy,” Mr. Levitt added.

Of course, Democrats expect to challenge the maps in court. As Mr. Levitt explained, extreme partisan gerrymandering is still unconstitutional, even if the Supreme Court ruled that federal courts cannot be the arbiters of partisan gerrymanders, leaving maps susceptible to challenges in state courts.

Any new districts could also run afoul of the Voting Rights Act, which prohibits racial gerrymandering. With new population growth centered in majority-minority cities like Dallas, Republican map drawers in Texas will also have to clear federal limits on how much a community can be divided.

And leaders like Representative Hakeem Jeffries, the Democratic minority leader, have been seeking to make the redistricting battle a national issue. To that end, he gathered Representative Nancy Pelosi, Eric H. Holder Jr., a former attorney general, and Texas Democrats on a virtual call on Wednesday to rally support among the Democratic base against the effort in Texas, including through a campaign to contact members of the Texas Legislature and voice opposition.

“Trump does not want there to be a free and fair midterm election,” said Representative Greg Casar, Democrat of Texas. “He wants to rig those elections right now, starting in Texas, and so we can’t just wait for those elections. We’ve got to have the fight right now.”
 
Someone i know that is perpetually misinformed told me Trump stole the soccer trophy? It is in the WH, I assume its just clutching pearls at a common practice of letting the host nation hold on to the original trophy? I couldn't care less about soccer, so i dunno, seems 'tarded.

I did see the photo of him allegedly stealing a medal and I didn't see that posted here yet. Fucking mensch!
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Someone i know that is perpetually misinformed told me Trump stole the soccer trophy? It is in the WH, I assume its just clutching pearls at a common practice of letting the host nation hold on to the original trophy? I couldn't care less about soccer, so i dunno, seems 'tarded.

I did see the photo of him allegedly stealing a medal and I didn't see that posted here yet. Fucking mensch!
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I think he did joke around with the trophy during the ceremony but he didn't keep it. That reminds me of the time Patriots owner Bob Kraft met Putin, let him try on his Super Bowl ring and Putin just walked off with it. AFAIK Kraft never got it back.

 
States where Democrats would have complete control over any redistricting, such as Illinois and Maryland, are already gerrymandered heavily in their favor.
saying the quiet part out loud

The Republican governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, has defended the decision to redistrict, citing a recent federal court ruling that said districts made up of multiple minority communities — known as coalition districts — are no longer required by federal law (the court did not say, however, that these districts are illegal and must be redrawn).
pwease repubwicans, don't gewwymander your states. only democrat states should be able to do that
 
Someone i know that is perpetually misinformed told me Trump stole the soccer trophy? It is in the WH, I assume its just clutching pearls at a common practice of letting the host nation hold on to the original trophy? I couldn't care less about soccer, so i dunno, seems 'tarded.

I did see the photo of him allegedly stealing a medal and I didn't see that posted here yet. Fucking mensch!
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Trump was asked to hold the original trophy for FIFA. Trump said he asked them when they wanted it back they said ‘it’s yours!’ And they made a replacement for the team. Could be true could be banter. FIFA’s President is all in on buttering him up for next year.

The medal he pocketed was actually a spare all the athletes got one and again likely a source of pandering to Trump. FIFA has also moved it’s US offices to Trump Tower in manhattan.
 
Severe. Mental. Illness.
We've already established that Fatpacks is a Seer in denial, stating the opposite of his prophetic visions in a vain attempt to enforce his own will upon fate. And in all of history, I've never heard record of a seer who wasn't some level of mentally ill. The evidence continues to add up.

Hot take, but this should be death penalty material.
Prison should exist as a deterrent to crime, not an ultimate punishment. If you've murdered 3 people, you deserve to die, end of story.
A life sentence is saying we don't ever want you free again. Might as well just kill them at that point. And if you're not confident enough in the justness of the ruling to kill them, then you shouldn't be ruling life sentences either. You don't get to completely destroy an innocent mans life and say "tee hee its ok though we didn't kill you" thirty years later when you think you got it wrong, its not a moral escape hatch.
 
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