S.401 - Fair Access to Banking Act

[immafiringmylolzar]

Uncut, unvaxxed and unbanked.

 

[Smithfield Ham]

I will say, this is part of the reason I never advocate for banning or policing fiction, even at its most fucked up, because once you accept the premise that something entirely fictional can be so harmful that it has to be censored, you open the door for massive authoritarianism. The way Collective Shout dismisses all of their critics by calling them sexists who love incest/rape/child abuse shows this in action. It always starts with easy targets like Infowars, KiwiFarms and fucked up anime porn, but it never, ever stops there. That's just the first bargaining chip they offer to move the Overton Window.

Obviously an exception should be made with anything that exploits or harms real, living human beings in its creation, like Cuties -- which Collective Shout ironically defends, as if they want to make my point for me better than I could.

It's why the most landmark Free Speech cases in the US were for groups like nazis and the KKK. You need to defend speech at its least popular and most detestable, or else you will lose it where you value it most.

Payment processors must be forced to adopt total neutrality, treated as a public utility like a phone service. They should never be allowed to deny service to anyone unless an actual crime is involved. This fucking bullshit has to end.

Lots of closet commies coming out in here kek.

What we're arguing for is far more Libertarian and anti-communist than the alternative. The only reason payment processors even have this kind of unbridled power is because the government carefully built and upholds their monopolies in the first place. Don't give me that "tactically ancap when its convenient for me" shit that PirateSoftware's dents do.

 

[harbringer883]

Paypal blows, they buttfucked me years ago for doing maybe 200-300 in friends and family transactions buying sports memorabilia off Facebook groups

I literally have 200 bucks frozen in wallet for the next 180 days because apparently they didnt like the account it came from or something.

 

[StacticShock]

I know Null thinks Asmond is a stinky cryptoroach but he should reach out to speak with him. It's clear Asmon is passionate about this (it came for his video games and there was no one left to defend him) and no one is more personally affected than Josh. Not even on screen, just an informative chat about the inner workings of debanking through payment processors. Asmon is a huge voice and more messaging on this is always a good thing.

you haven't seen the stop killing games video haven't you?
null is the fucking elephant's foot in radioactivity, people can't reach out to him without being infected with deadly amounts of radiation and become as shunned as he is.

basically null is the textbook example of someone who went under the character assassination effectively in our time, if you see someone theorize call them a faggot and mention that null was debakned for years, not even months like some court order does, years.

Unlike SKG which is a european only thing this is something he could actually advocate for. I've said this before but the more sloptuber coverage, the better.

SKG got better traction once sloptubers started covering it you mongoloid, same shit here, more coverage = better.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

I know Null thinks Asmond is a stinky cryptoroach but he should reach out to speak with him. It's clear Asmon is passionate about this (it came for his video games and there was no one left to defend him) and no one is more personally affected than Josh. Not even on screen, just an informative chat about the inner workings of debanking through payment processors. Asmon is a huge voice and more messaging on this is always a good thing.

He did that already on X.

 

[SuperConglomerateWhale]

Deport all the Jews to Madagascar.

Send the Negroids to the Borg Cube

Stopped reading where you called women who are against violent rape simulators "retarded holes" and so will every other woman, fyi. Good luck trying to mobilize the incel crowd I guess

You know there are many women who also agree with this but don't want to associate with a movement spearheaded by a guy who calls women "holes".

You are the ultimate example of why Josh cannot get his point across. There is always a Distraction Carnifex in his way of the real enemy. Be it Feminists, Gooners, Incels, really any filthy group taking the blame that the payment processors should rightfully be bearing. And you don't fucking get it. Pathetic.

The vagina thinks more than the brain.

 

[Yankee Shogun]

1. People are upset over Steam censoring games at the behest of the the payment networks. People are more upset over a feminist group in Australia taking credit, but this presents a good opportunity to raise awareness of the core problem: MasterCard, Visa, Amex, Discover, their payment processors, and the financial services industry.
2. There is a bill titled "Fair Access to Banking Act", which is a nice first step, but not a real solution.

I do see alot of people upset at Credit Card companies, its generally just easier to put a face to Collective Shout, which I think is the issue. It's alot easier to be upset at the people directly and smugly gloating and defending the Censorship than the Payment processors who never demean themselves to interact with normal people or give a face to their actions. It's unfortunately a pretty cunning strategy, the more people are upset at Activists and arguing whose to blame (With people seemingly trying to blame everyone whose not them, I've even seem some people call Collective Shout a Christian group, lmfao) it's unfortunately going to slowly take attention off the real culprits. I think the thing to emphasise is that if we can control the Payment processors the Activists will lose massive amounts of power they used to have.

 

[Smithfield Ham]

I do see alot of people upset at Credit Card companies, its generally just easier to put a face to Collective Shout, which I think is the issue. It's alot easier to be upset at the people directly and smugly gloating and defending the Censorship than the Payment processors who never demean themselves to interact with normal people or give a face to their actions. It's unfortunately a pretty cunning strategy, the more people are upset at Activists and arguing whose to blame (With people seemingly trying to blame everyone whose not them, I've even seem some people call Collective Shout a Christian group, lmfao) it's unfortunately going to slowly take attention off the real culprits. I think the thing to emphasise is that if we can control the Payment processors the Activists will lose massive amounts of power they used to have.

MoistCritical, Asmongold and Muthar all made sure to mention payment processors as the explicit real problem. It isn't gonna get buried, it's already escalated far past the point it was.

 

[JustSomeDong]

Are you saying electricity shouldn't be regulated as a utility? Are you unhappy with how electricity functions in the US at the moment? Would you prefer they had the exclusive ability to deny service to people because they dislike their politics, find them icky, or for literally no reason at all? I'm not a commie unless you think all people who are on board with breaking up corrupt monopolies when they arise are commies. If you do, okay fair enough.

Electric companies regularly narc on their own customers. That smart meter on your house is telling them when you have a grow op or crypto rig. And they feel just fine letting the cops know what naughty shit you are up to. Hell, there was just another story about this the other day from Cali, but its been happening for years.

tldr

 

[Do Not Touch Me Pls]

Electric companies regularly narc on their own customers. That smart meter on your house is telling them when you have a grow op or crypto rig. And they feel just fine letting the cops know what naughty shit you are up to. Hell, there was just another story about this the other day from Cali, but its been happening for years.

There is a difference between a weed farm and your PC having a copy of the Coffin of Andy and Leyley.

Arresting you over a VIDEO GAME with incest context sounds way more absurd than when you get arrested for growing Weed (if they could do it).

 

[WuTangClan2299]

Josh would kill himself over this tweet

 

[Smithfield Ham]

Josh would kill himself over this tweet
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Actual retard take.


"Hey y'all! It's not the Orphan Crushing Machine Corporation's fault that those mean ol' terfs are pushing gamers into their crushing machines! They don't want to be crushing gamers, the mean ol' terfs are forcing them to by writing mean emails!"

 

[JustSomeDong]

There is a difference between a weed farm and your PC having a copy of the Coffin of Andy and Leyley.

Your autism prevents you from seeing the point I'm making. What is a precedent, anyways?
Hell, what do you think Microsoft can do with file hashes. They already scan your computer and cloud accounts for CSAM hashes. IP infringement enforcement will probably come down the pipe within 10 years. Already exists somewhat in their cloud services.

There is NO BILL OF RIGHTS to protect you from C-Suite America. A convenient loophole we've seen used to abrogate our rights to speech, guns, association for DECADES. Eisenhower tried to warn us...

Now that they've come for the gooners, though... Well that's just too heckin far, CHUDDIES!

 

[GunCar Gary]

the owner of itch.io calls out Stripe in particular

Josh would kill himself over this tweet

i've also seen people claiming this is the work of Project 2025. still obsessed with that nonsense after a year of the propaganda coming out

 

[Do Not Touch Me Pls]

the owner of itch.io calls out Stripe in particular
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i've also seen people claiming this is the work of Project 2025. still obsessed with that nonsense after a year of the propaganda coming out

Also be warned that Saikey, an itch.io refuge, is using both Paypal and StripeE.

 

[autosarcophagy]

Josh would kill himself over this tweet
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taking games away that you payed for should be illegal.

 

[Fount of BadSpeak]

Well, that law is fucking worthless, which is what I was worried about. Obviously the people who enabled these faceless corpos to prey on normal people aren't going to actually fight against them, but I still thought it was more than a fine that they won't apply, that doesn't have to be legally paid even if they do apply it.

Is there anything I can actually do other than the functionally worthless act of writing my representatives and senators and asking pwetty pwease to have their boss Jews stop fucking us up the asshole? I know Null said there isn't, but I hate being so impotent.

Every data center has armed guards, MULTIPLE backup diesel generators, some are even working on getting their own nuclear generators on-site. Heavy munitions are your best bet.

Might need some bunker busters for the underground datacenters too
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And maybe torpedoes for the underwater ones
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Not sure if visa/mc has any of those latter two, though.

While yes, you are correct for some of these, your average data center has "security" where it's some glorified mall cop with a hangun that he hasn't shot in 9 months on his waist, and those guys are basically just there to deter browns and meth heads from stripping out the copper to sell for quick cash. They do have redundancies out to ass to prevent downtime, but these are all pretty finnicky and would be pretty easy to disable with a 12 guage shotgun loaded with some small caliber buckshot; frankly, that would also work on the very delicate servers as well; just spray and pray and you'll be losing them 2 million per server per hour right there. Just make sure you're out of the arc flash boundary when you do lel. I am willing to bet the data centers in particularly hard to access locations are contracted to the government and have sensitive military or government data, rather than in the ownership of payment processors. I have worked on quite a few and they're usually cheap concrete buildings, surrounded by concrete walls, with a fenced entrance with some Securitas joker manning it. The facilities themselves have minimal, if any personnel beyond that.

The really hard part about the data centers is that many of them are intentionally opaque on what data they host, who they host it for, who owns it, who runs it, etc. I have had construction jobs where the client was a codename operating through a shell company so that none of us even knew who the actual employer was. It's all very secretive, so knowing which data centers were actually being utilized by payment processors would be difficult to find out unless you had people on the inside willing to feed you info, and even then they would likely have to be pretty important since they are so secretive about everything. That being said, if you wanted to waste data centers, 95%+ of them are in the middle of Anywhere, USA with minimal security, can be found on google maps, and it would be pretty fucking easy to do so with minimal planning or equipment. The redundancy all exists to make sure the servers stay up, but if you get access to the facility, then destroying the critical component of the servers renders all of the generators, UPSs, and other redundancy pointless, so you don't need to worry about sabotaging generators the size of train diesel engines, or trying to sabotage 16 kV power lines.

For legal reasons, I neither condone nor condemn this idea, I am simply explaining that it isn't as hard as you think it would be.

 

[Do Not Touch Me Pls]

Your autism prevents you from seeing the point I'm making. What is a precedent, anyways?
Hell, what do you think Microsoft can do with file hashes. They already scan your computer and cloud accounts for CSAM hashes. IP infringement enforcement will probably come down the pipe within 10 years. Already exists somewhat in their cloud services.

There is NO BILL OF RIGHTS to protect you from C-Suite America. A convenient loophole we've seen used to abrogate our rights to speech, guns, association for DECADES. Eisenhower tried to warn us...

Now that they've come for the gooners, though... Well that's just too heckin far, CHUDDIES!

Still not a fair comparison as far as precedent goes. A fairer comparison would be the list of bloody video games the EU and Australia banned from the 90s to the new 10s, there's at least 30 of these. Those were just glossed over because the governments had no ability to enforce censorship worldwide at once so they assume they won't affect them, and gamers are much less likely to be a part of dark politics. Now they do. They ALL do. Look at what happened.

 

[autosarcophagy]

why not have a bill that implements IBAN in America because it does stand for International Bank Account Number.

 

[JustSomeDong]

why not have a bill that implements IBAN in America because it does stand for International Bank Account Number.

To answer this in two simple words: Campaign contributions.
You don't think our legislators are the ones actually writing the bulk of legislation, do you? Lawyers for interest groups do that, silly!
No, congresscritters only write the little inane reactionary "optics bills" that never actually accomplish anything but noise and media coverage. (see the recent epstein bills for examples of such)