Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Abella]

God I hate waifufags. Like why is this fucking card $3 when Iono, Marnie, Carmine and Klara were all close in power levels and the basic prints were under $0.50?

 

[30+GameOvers]

Everytime I hear the Gen 5 debacle, my mind keeps coming back to this video and seeing how true it still is:

Yeah, I remember how bad it was. Pokefags got exactly what they deserve, they got their KANTOOOO and that's all they will ever have now.
Same goes for something like, say, Call of Duty where it became a national sport to shit on the jetpack entries. You know what we got out of that? Two of the world's shittiest WW2 shooters(pozzed to high heaven btw) and nu-Modern Warfare slop, but even those memberberries aren't enough and now Acitvision is going to run Black Ops brand to the ground as they're this allergic to trying something new again. Once again, those who complain have nobody to blame but themselves and I hold no pity for the state of either franchise.

Who asked for Pokemon friends?

Probably a collection of minigames from a scrapped project Nintendo decided to make it's own separate game. Then they added cancerous microtransactions to see just how far they can push the envelope when the new mainstream titles drop. Everyone who even tolerated the shitty DLC packs from Sword/Shield and Scarlet/Violet are to blame for this, and I hereby congratulate you for ruining this franchise even more.

 

[Kurohige]

On that note, I was searching up stuff about Battle Revolution when I noticed some Colosseum leaders were race swapped outside of Japan.
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This game came out in 2007.

Me as a kid in '07: "Pokémon Diamond!" *spergs*
Me now: "Absolutely raped video game series, and the poundings never stop..."

 

[Archeops]

God I hate waifufags. Like why is this fucking card $3 when Iono, Marnie, Carmine and Klara were all close in power levels and the basic prints were under $0.50?
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It's because the effect it fairly decent in the current format and the card is only available in a single set while Iono, Marnie, and Klara were lumped into other sets and/or various products like League Battle Decks (Carmine is an outlier since the only deck that really uses it in large amounts is Pecharunt Donk). There's also the fact that the waifu tax only kicks in when dealing with FA/IR/SIR cards.

 

[Abella]

It's because the effect it fairly decent in the current format and the card is only available in a single set while Iono, Marnie, and Klara were lumped into other sets and/or various products like League Battle Decks (Carmine is an outlier since the only deck that really uses it in large amounts is Pecharunt Donk). There's also the fact that the waifu tax only kicks in when dealing with FA/IR/SIR cards.

I also forgot about Lillie, but those cards I mentioned were never $3 when they came out and before they got reprinted and put into decks. The waifu tax makes more sense when you realize that the pull rates on this set are bad when there’s an IR for every Pokemon in a set that’s split in two, including the shitmons like cryagonal. Hell, even PRE budew wasn’t so much when it came out and people thought that was going to break the game.

 

[Coon Cheese]

TRVKE: all ice types are shit, none are good not even as stalling mons or set up mons thoughever ice type moves are good such as tried tested and true ice beam

 

[GigantorUnitron]

Yeah, I remember how bad it was. Pokefags got exactly what they deserve, they got their KANTOOOO and that's all they will ever have now.
Same goes for something like, say, Call of Duty where it became a national sport to shit on the jetpack entries. You know what we got out of that? Two of the world's shittiest WW2 shooters(pozzed to high heaven btw) and nu-Modern Warfare slop, but even those memberberries aren't enough and now Acitvision is going to run Black Ops brand to the ground as they're this allergic to trying something new again. Once again, those who complain have nobody to blame but themselves and I hold no pity for the state of either franchise.

Probably a collection of minigames from a scrapped project Nintendo decided to make it's own separate game. Then they added cancerous microtransactions to see just how far they can push the envelope when the new mainstream titles drop. Everyone who even tolerated the shitty DLC packs from Sword/Shield and Scarlet/Violet are to blame for this, and I hereby congratulate you for ruining this franchise even more.

It was an aging demographic that was getting tired of the formula and their solution to this, while pretty good in retrospect, was a phenomenenly bad idea back then, not helped by how they did the anime. ignoring the kanto stuff can anyone tell me that locking behind so many of the old pokemon to late in the game, and giving what at the time had to have been a pretty big difficulty spike, was the right call? in any other situation it would be, but you need to ease people into that shit.

 

[Retarded Weeb]

It was an aging demographic that was getting tired of the formula and their solution to this, while pretty good in retrospect, was a phenomenenly bad idea back then, not helped by how they did the anime. ignoring the kanto stuff can anyone tell me that locking behind so many of the old pokemon to late in the game, and giving what at the time had to have been a pretty big difficulty spike, was the right call? in any other situation it would be, but you need to ease people into that shit.

Did that actually alienate a significant long-time fans that still played the games, though? I feel like people have forgotten just how many people there were in the 2000s who only played Red/Blue back in the day but continued to show up in the comments for any Pokemon news to complain about how everything new from Pokemon sucks and is all downhill from Gen 1. I swear most of the people who were bitching on the internet about Black/White back then didn't even play the video games at all.

>big difficulty spike
BW was hard?

 

[X-avier cuck]

Did that actually alienate a significant long-time fans that still played the games, though? I feel like people have forgotten just how many people there were in the 2000s who only played Red/Blue back in the day but continued to show up in the comments for any Pokemon news to complain about how everything new from Pokemon sucks and is all downhill from Gen 1. I swear most of the people who were bitching on the internet about Black/White back then didn't even play the video games at all.

>big difficulty spike
BW was hard?

The problem with Pokemon Black and White (coming from somebody who was around to see the discussion) is that people were using as an example to highlight that GF was lazy and behind the times.

The consensus is that pokémon fans were autistic boot lickers who for whatever reason basically consume the same thing over and over again and didn't demand that game freak upscale the franchise like Zelda and Mario had done.

Outside of that the Pokemon designs were controversial because they are legitimately regional forms of generation 1 Pokemon and they were even stated to basically be as such.

It's kind of crazy to think that the sentiment now has largely reversed on itself where most of the kids who grew up with generation 5 are more or less the current generwunners and feel vindicated by how sloppy things have turned out thanks to the shift to 3D.

 

[Retarded Weeb]

The problem with Pokemon Black and White (coming from somebody who was around to see the discussion) is that people were using as an example to highlight that GF was lazy and behind the times.

The consensus is that pokémon fans were autistic boot lickers who for whatever reason basically consume the same thing over and over again and didn't demand that game freak upscale the franchise like Zelda and Mario had done.

Outside of that the Pokemon designs were controversial because they are legitimately regional forms of generation 1 Pokemon and they were even stated to basically be as such.

It's kind of crazy to think that the sentiment now has largely reversed on itself where most of the kids who grew up with generation 5 are more or less the current generwunners and feel vindicated by how sloppy things have turned out thanks to the shift to 3D.

People were saying that about all the Pokemon games though, but they were kind of right. Pokemon had, and still continued to at least to SWSH, clung too hard a specific formula for how the games play out. BW at least had some small change-ups in making the evil team plot more prominent and having animated sprites. The big I remember BW specifically get shit for was people being overly eager for the series to become 3D. Like there was there these people who were all
>Oh my gawd! Why are they making another 2D DS games!? They should be making a 3D game for the next console by now instead of wasting time on this!

 

[Celebrate Nite]

The big I remember BW specifically get shit for was people being overly eager for the series to become 3D. Like there was there these people who were all
>Oh my gawd! Why are they making another 2D DS games!? They should be making a 3D game for the next console by now instead of wasting time on this!

Imagine playing BW and not appreciating the spritework of every pokemon at that point, new or old.

I fucking WISH we went back to that. Now it's the same boring models except with either the brightness/saturation fucked with depending on what game it is. They can't even give them different animations to give them SOME sort of personality.

 

[GigantorUnitron]

Imagine playing BW and not appreciating the spritework of every pokemon at that point, new or old.

I fucking WISH we went back to that. Now it's the same boring models except with either the brightness/saturation fucked with depending on what game it is. They can't even give them different animations to give them SOME sort of personality.

The spritework was liked, the animations on them and the constant zoom in on them wasn't very well liked and made people overly focus on that instead of the spritework

 

[Abella]

Oh yes, reprint alert for a set that’s been very low in demand. Surely that’ll stop the scalping.

 

[X-avier cuck]

People were saying that about all the Pokemon games though, but they were kind of right. Pokemon had, and still continued to at least to SWSH, clung too hard a specific formula for how the games play out. BW at least had some small change-ups in making the evil team plot more prominent and having animated sprites. The big I remember BW specifically get shit for was people being overly eager for the series to become 3D. Like there was there these people who were all
>Oh my gawd! Why are they making another 2D DS games!? They should be making a 3D game for the next console by now instead of wasting time on this!

Imagine playing BW and not appreciating the spritework of every pokemon at that point, new or old.

I fucking WISH we went back to that. Now it's the same boring models except with either the brightness/saturation fucked with depending on what game it is. They can't even give them different animations to give them SOME sort of personality.

The thing about game freak is that they are incredibly skilled at 2D to the point that drill dozer is considered one of the best metroidvania games of all time, and they made that on top of making Pokemon emerald.

While I do have some critiques with bw, I feel like a part of the criticism was just placed in people having an obsession with anything 3D but now people understand that there is a lot about 2D that just makes it age better.

You can take a look at something like Pinocchio from 1940 something and it will look leagues better than something like wish even though it's on the cusp of being over 80 years old.

Likewise something like Pokemon scarlet and violet is going to age worse and worse the better game freak gets with their style.

A lot of old head RPG fans would make the same argument about the RPGs we got in the 90s compared to what we get now

 

[30+GameOvers]

Thing is that you can do 3D games properly. GC games have outdated Nintendo 64 era models for Gen 1 and 2 Pokemon, and yet they still have better animations and more soul than anything Gamefreak has ever released in 3D. For all it's problems, Battle Revolution had fantastic models and animations and they actually started to touch up on some old N64 models. If they had more time, they would be able to finish updating all the models, so even that isn't a big issue.

Gen 5 was sprite kino and anyone who doesn't like it probably can't imagine an apple in their heads either.

 

[Squawking Macaw]

It didn't even account for Pokemon Platinum stuff either because it was developed too early, so it really has aged relatively poorly IMHO.

There's a Platinum build of Battle Revolution that was used in official tournaments, but Nintendo never released it to the public. There were some people searching for it iirc.

The consensus is that pokémon fans were autistic boot lickers who for whatever reason basically consume the same thing over and over again and didn't demand that game freak upscale the franchise like Zelda and Mario had done.

Which is true btw.

Outside of that the Pokemon designs were controversial because they are legitimately regional forms of generation 1 Pokemon and they were even stated to basically be as such.

I remember it clear as day, gen 5 objectmons were used as evidence that Game Freak was "running out of ideas." The seething caused by Vanilluxe and Garbodor was legendary, yet no one ever mentioned Chandelure or Cofagrigus.

You can take a look at something like Pinocchio from 1940 something and it will look leagues better than something like wish even though it's on the cusp of being over 80 years old.

C'mon, using Wish as an example of 3D animation is a low blow. 3D can age as well as 2D, it just needs a strong art style, like the Puss in Boots sequel.

In fact, gen 5 used plenty of 3D, the environments were 3D models with pixelated textures, only the trainers and Pokemon used sprites. Of course, when we talk about 3D in Pokemon what we mean is 3D models for the Pokemon, but it's still worth noting because not many people realize how often 3D was used in gens 4 and 5.

 

[30+GameOvers]

God I hate waifufags. Like why is this fucking card $3 when Iono, Marnie, Carmine and Klara were all close in power levels and the basic prints were under $0.50?
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This is the Pokemon fanbase we're talking about, so the reason it's so expensive is probably because they want to squirt hot glue all over it.

There's a Platinum build of Battle Revolution that was used in official tournaments, but Nintendo never released it to the public. There were some people searching for it iirc.

It wasn't found with the Teraleak, so it might sadly just be gone. Ridiculous they never released it to the public, hell it might have even saved the game.

 

[X-avier cuck]

There's a Platinum build of Battle Revolution that was used in official tournaments, but Nintendo never released it to the public. There were some people searching for it iirc.


Which is true btw.


I remember it clear as day, gen 5 objectmons were used as evidence that Game Freak was "running out of ideas." The seething caused by Vanilluxe and Garbodor was legendary, yet no one ever mentioned Chandelure or Cofagrigus.


C'mon, using Wish as an example of 3D animation is a low blow. 3D can age as well as 2D, it just needs a strong art style, like the Puss in Boots sequel.

In fact, gen 5 used plenty of 3D, the environments were 3D models with pixelated textures, only the trainers and Pokemon used sprites. Of course, when we talk about 3D in Pokemon what we mean is 3D models for the Pokemon, but it's still worth noting because not many people realize how often 3D was used in gens 4 and 5.

The whole thing is pretty crazy looking back because so few of the modern fan base was actually around to see just how crazy it got.

It honestly the weird dichotomy that Pokemon has attracted to itself because it's easy to think of what could possibly make for the ultimate Mario or Zelda game, but if I ask five Pokemon fans the same thing they would probably have a debate amongst themselves since nobody really likes the same thing about the franchise.

I think the route that Nintendo and TPC are taking is to basically try to pull a Zelda by splitting things off into different factions.

Pokemon champions is for competitive heads and we're going to have to see how generation X turns out, but my suspicion is that now that the turn-based battle system is localized within champions they're probably going to just merge the Legends and SV approaches together which is what they already seem to be doing with za.

 

[30+GameOvers]

Pokemon champions is for competitive heads and we're going to have to see how generation X turns out, but my suspicion is that now that the turn-based battle system is localized within champions they're probably going to just merge the Legends and SV approaches together which is what they already seem to be doing with za.

Nah, I don't think they know what they're doing at all. They are just milking the paypigs dry cause they found out the franchise is an infinite money cheat and needs no effort made from any of it's products. That friends game with microtransactions is proof of it. If they did want to give fans what they want, they would never have done Dexit and the Switch games would resemble GC games in quality rather than the touched up 3DS garbage(or whatever the hell SV is supposed to be, mobile slopcore maybe).

 

[Abella]

This is the Pokemon fanbase we're talking about, so the reason it's so expensive is probably because they want to squirt hot glue all over it.

That wouldn’t surprise me, the waifufags were angry over Lillie not getting an IR/SIR with journey together and battle partners and the tournament collection. They don’t even play so they don’t understand they wouldn’t make a promo of a card that’s been out of standard for 6 years.