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how the fuck is illegal immigration an 'arbitrary distinction' lmao
are you one of those "borders are, like, just lines on a map bro" progtards or what
fair point, I guess I put it in the same spot as japs during ww2. Were they potentially dangerous? yes. But I do think it wasent ok then or now to round up people because of a POSSIBILITY of them being a danger. You just being here dosent constitute enough of a burden of guilt as to be inherently illegal you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they are here not here legally or fleeing persecution. That means all masked federal agents grabbing people and deporting them without due process is inherently wrong by my own and the constitutions standard.

Like it or not they are here and being ON US soil guarantees you certain rights unless your a terrorist and even that myself and the law are iffy on, if you need any evidence of that claim look no further than the imprisoned "perpetrators" of 9/11.
 
Ive been listening to the Ana Kasparian interview with Tucker today, its not too bad. They make a pretty good effort of shining the light on the small hats.

Interesting discussion about Christians having more rights in Iran than they do in Israel. Imagine that.
Tucker consistently scooping up the online Right ever since the Iran bombing has me convinced that Vance 2028 isn't a surefire inevitability. I think he's going to run for president in 2028 and he's probably going to win.

People keep using the term "counter elite" to describe him because he isn't a philosemite but I'm fully convinced that the establishment is looking for any way to make it less obvious that congress and the executive branch are captured by Israel, and I can see no better way to assuage those concerns than by pushing for someone who is openly anti-Zionist. They can elect him, cuck him out of doing anything meaningful to address the core issue with the small hats for the entire term, and then move onto whatever the GAE wants to do next without having to worry so much about Israel's grip on American institutions every truly being threatened.
 
Can you provide more than just some random faggot's Xitter post with no sources?

The US will secure 90 per cent of profits from joint investments with Japan only if it takes on a proportional amount of risk and financing, Tokyo said on Friday, as cracks widened in the two allies’ interpretation of their hastily agreed trade deal. Japanese officials said there was no written agreement with Washington — and no legally binding one would be drawn up — after Trump administration officials claimed Tokyo would back investments in the US from which American taxpayers would reap nine-tenths of the profits. Japan secured a reduction in reciprocal and automotive tariffs from US President Donald Trump’s threatened level of 25 per cent to 15 per cent in the deal announced this week, but sharply different perceptions of what was agreed have since become apparent.
 
Lastly, Idk if you're memeing but if you're not, just shut the fuck up about this shit. It's one thing to have retarded political opinions because having standards for people and society makes your pussy hurt, but it's an entire other thing to be entirely misinformed about an entire sector of politics, civics, law, and claim something is bad because the distinctions that are being made on who is thrown the fuck out feel "arbitrary", if you even know what that word fucking means.
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I unironically say arrest the people who hired the illegals and give the illegals caught WORKING temprary green cards as long as they keep working and keep their nose clean, what is wrong with you that you just want as much human suffering as possible with 0 critical thought to actual problems and solutions?
 
I'm really excited to see what sort of new evidence Ghislaine Maxwell is going to be able to provide after being incarcerated for the last half decade. I'm fairly certain she still has access to all of her old notes and files and that they weren't all seized and destroyed after her initial arrest. It's going to be such a relief to finally have solid, verifiable, unmolested proof of everything that happened on Epstein island. I'm totally certain that Ghislaine Maxwell, a completely neutral individual with no proven concrete connections to the sex trafficking allegations, will provide 100% factual and unbiased revelations about Epstein, showing the world how Trump basically operated the whole thing once and for all. I have no reason to believe she has any other motivation or ulterior motive behind wanting to finally come forward with all this information besides just wanting to do the right thing. Justice will now see the light of day, finally.
What else do you want? Trump got cock blocked by the courts for releasing the sealed files. She is the best you got to a resolution to this mess
 
fair point, I guess I put it in the same spot as japs during ww2. Were they potentially dangerous? yes. But I do think it wasent ok then or now to round up people because of a POSSIBILITY of them being a danger. You just being here dosent constitute enough of a burden of guilt as to be inherently illegal you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they are here not here legally or fleeing persecution. That means all masked federal agents grabbing people and deporting them without due process is inherently wrong by my own and the constitutions standard.

Like it or not they are here and being ON US soil guarantees you certain rights unless your a terrorist and even that myself and the law are iffy on, if you need any evidence of that claim look no further than the imprisoned "perpetrators" of 9/11.
What are you even talking about you absolute fucking retard.
Entering the United States without approval from immigration officers is a crime, specifically a misdemeanor on the first offense, while illegal reentry after deportation is a felony offense.

Also, deportation isn't a legal punishment you stupid fuck, it's a legal process. The due process is a immigration official determining that an immigrant is illegal, and deporting them, they aren't legally entitled to a court case with a "Jury of their peers" specifically because "peers" refers to other Americans.
Not to mention wtf do you mean by proven beyond a reasonable doubt? They don't have paperwork to prove who they are, they don't have a social security card, THEY DON'T SPEAK FUCKING ENGLISH lmfao, do you think a Judge needs to determine their legal status?
 
Just to be very clear, I think that the ICE thing is currently getting bad and I think rounding up people based on arbitrary distinctions for ANY reason is bad. I think we are trying to fix 60 years of bad border policy in 4 years and it wont work and is wrong
Is there any actual evidence ICE’s policies are based off arbitrary distinctions though? Yeah, they’re primarily rounding up Hispanics, but also no shit. Most illegal immigrants are Hispanic, it’s not even close.

Is there some ICE memo or other proof of a policy, unofficial or official, that they’re “rounding up people based on arbitrary distinctions,” as you’re implying they are?
 
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illegals caught WORKING temprary green cards as long as they keep working and keep their nose clean, what is wrong with you that you just want as much human suffering as possible with 0 critical thought to actual problems and solutions
So illegals deserve to be rewarded for violating our laws, to the detriment of the American citizenry and the non-citizens who try to do things the right way? How is that fair? How is it right or just to ignore all the people turned down jobs, many being people of low income, because some illegal would do it for cheaper than minimum wage? Does their suffering deserve no mention?
To quote a dementia addled guy from Delaware: “C’mon man!”
 
Observations become clichés because they are true. Consider the saying, “With Democrats, every accusation is a confession.” This achieved cliché status because it accurately describes the habit of neoliberals to project their flaws and misdeeds upon their opponents.

Creepy personification of the Deep State at its most nefarious, John Brennan, pushes this to comic levels by accusing Tulsi Gabbard of “mischaracterizing, misrepresenting, and lying” — after she exposed him for mischaracterizing, misrepresenting, and lying to prop up Obama’s Russiagate hoax:
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If shitlibs have any human-like characteristics, self-awareness is not among them. Smugly snug in their elitist bubbles, they can’t even begin to comprehend the disdain normal people have for them.
I really like msnbc added a "what the fuck is this retard talking about" reaction image of coconut surf mommy.
 
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