Later at
1:47:17 it is said she was lying about her age to Andy and is actually 15
She doesn't say this though, and she starts bringing up romeo-and-juliet laws about being 17.
She's 15, lied to him that she's 17.
When does she says this? The clip you're showing me does not validate this. Gahoole is saying that she was 15 while she says nothing.
I'm going to archive this segment you sent me. It's not really supportive of your claims. Gahoole is goading her the entire time to say more while she awkwardly sits quietly. He is fucking salivating at the thought getting Andy in jail while she barely speaks and sometimes only to defend him. Gahoole admits to having a vendetta, saying he "knew along" that Andy was a pedo because of his "pedo vibe". Gahoole's behavior creeps me out more than the fucking Snapchat logs. He's begging her, pleading with her, to say more, to accuse Andy of doing illegal things, to collect more evidence for him, and to contact law enforcement. She's being dragged by this dude the entire time. Listen for yourself:
I mean seriously bro just fucking listen to this guy. How am I supposed to think this is real? He sounds like a cartoon villain.
To be absolutely clear: I have no trouble believing that in 2018 a coked up Andy Warski had a relationship with and potentially received nudes of a girl he believed was 10 years younger than him. It is not good judgement to do this, it is not any better than Ethan Ralph hooking up with Faith Vickers, it violates the n/2+7 rule which I use as a guideline for if a relationship is creepy or not, and it also violates my rule about messing with your fans (which creates an unfair power dynamic and always leads to problems). It is
wrong to do this and Andy Warski was
wrong to do this. Technicalities about age of consent and if her age was in this range of a few years is irrelevant to the point that it would be
wrong to do anyways because the age gap would be creepy even if she was 20 years old.
But that's not what you're trying to convince me of. You're trying to convince me that Andy Warski is a serial child pornographer who deliberately groomed a 15-year-old for sex and broadcasts child pornography to the Internet. These are the literal claims you are presenting on my website and quite frankly I think they're libelous. If it was anyone else I'd probably have done
more to moderate the thread, but because it's Andy Warski and I have appeared on stream with him maybe 10 times in the last 10 years I can't really do that without freaking people out.
If you want me to be indignant, I need
mens rea. Ideally, the accuser would (of her own free will) be presenting her story and stating Andy Warski did wrong that he knew was wrong to do, preferably with evidence of everything said. You're not showing me that. I am seeing a girl being dragged by Gahoole on livestream, begrudgingly confirming some information, and presenting no evidence besides chatlogs that actually show Andy Warski doing some (late) due diligence.
The currently featured thread about
Jason Hall dryhumping a furry against his will is a better example of what an accusation needs to look like to convince people of wrongdoing. There's a good reason to not like these accusation videos where someone like Gahoole is handholding: we just recently had a rape accusation in the Brony community where someone's abuse story was filtered through two different a-log accounts and manipulated into being more scandalous than it was because they wanted to destroy the guy's career. These guys on this stream, especially Gahoole, fit the character of something like that.
What am I missing?
Just for posterity, in case this post is shared around without context: I am not proactively jumping in to defend Andy Warski. I am being repeatedly dragged into this thread against my will by about half a dozen people who are demanding that I cease all contact with PPP and never make guest appearances on his podcast, the Kino Casino, of which Andy Warski is a co-host. I have no direct relationship with Andy Warski, I have not spoken to him in private in at least 5 years now, and I have no control or influence over him. I am simply being told I need to litigate this by a handful of users because they want drama and I am within two degrees of separation from the topic.
