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His opinion tends to be made manifest far more frequently than not, much to the chagrin of the people he shit talks right before he brings real discomfort to them.
Sure, I'm not saying he's not effective or anything. It's just really fucking funny the way he tweets. Didn't he once say something like "Only "TRUMP" could accomplish this!"
 
The Constitution is just a piece of paper. If it can't protect its citizens, it's as valuable as toilet paper. We should stretch the meaning of it as far as possible to legitimize whatever our side needs to do to achieve our aims. The other side sure as fuck is already doing it.
He's likely to be completely rejected by the Progressive Golem that the DNC anchored themselves with as a motivated base.
Joe "Racial Jungle" Biden won the nomination in 2020 and lost his support only because he was well demented too close to the election. The GOP is seen as the racist white man's party by brown and black people and that's enough to get them to vote Dem. The majority of people, especially non-white, are utterly tribal when it comes to politics. No amount of failure by the Dems or Republican outreach will change that.
I personally hope Trump stays the leader of the party after he leaves office. I think he likes being the star of huge rallies, and hope he continues that into the 2030s influencing the party positions and pushing up candidates he likes. But he's a bit of a traditionalist, and I could see him doing the typical stepping out of politics after wards.
Trump will be over 90 by the time the 30s are over. Trump will probably more like the Clintons with his family and surrogates being the ones that select candidates. Trump himself will be like Reagan with everyone in the GOP needing to use him as a callback for decades to come.
 
Did you know that Jake Sullivan (former US National Security Adviser, Director of Policy {Obongo}, Deputy Chief of Staff {Shillary Clinton}) was one of the most influential architects of the destruction of America’s borders and, therefore, its sovereignty?

It’s true:

 
Did you know that Jake Sullivan (former US National Security Adviser, Director of Policy {Obongo}, Deputy Chief of Staff {Shillary Clinton}) was one of the most influential architects of the destruction of America’s borders and, therefore, its sovereignty?

It’s true:

Wikipedia 'Jake Sullivan' early life...
Sullivan was born in Burlington, Vermont, to a family of Irish descent
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Where does this say what you typed:

""all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.""

'And subject to the jurisdiction thereof' simply means the law of this place applies to them. I.E. the parents weren't foreign diplomats with immunity and/or subjects of foreign allegiances. I understand the new novel internet theory you're going with but it's just not serious. Many SC cases would need to overturned first.
No. It’s quite clear that the citizenship portion of the 14th amendment was written to allow the former slaves and their children to gain citizenship. It was not intended to grant the spawn of foreigners crapped out on US soil the right to the most valuable thing in the world: US Citizenship.
 
There have been several SC cases that dealt with the phrase "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof". It means diplomats who are still subject to the jurisdiction of another country while they're here. We didn't want their children to be automatic citizens if born here. That's it.
Since 1898 and US v. Wong Kim Ark, correct. This interpretation has however been so severely abused over the past few decades (birthright tourism being the most egregious example) that it's clearly high time the SC revisits the issue (as there's no way Congress will ever grow enough of a spine to do so).
 
No. It’s quite clear that the citizenship portion of the 14th amendment was written to allow the former slaves and their children to gain citizenship. It was not intended to grant the spawn of foreigners crapped out on US soil the right to the most valuable thing in the world: US Citizenship.
I agree! It's just a shame they didn't write it to say that and we're going to need another Amendment to fix it.
 
We are probably going to have a clown car full of variety of browns veying for the spot that the lower half of the DNC employees will riot over not getting their progressive dream candidate.

Clown cars are for Republicans. By 2026 the Dems will have circled the wagons on their preferred candidate, most likely Newsom since they probably have swallowed the bitter pill that they have to run a straight white male. They'll get their DEI candidate with whoever the VP pick is and the browns and faggots can slapfight about that.
 
Muslims in Brooklyn blocked a highway, exited their vehicles and began chanting, “globalize the intifada.”

I really wish those "run em over" laws they have in Florida got nationalized. Assuming such a law anywhere is constitutional, there's no way a national one wouldn't be. You don't even need a tortured reading of the law to argue that blocking a major highway affects interstate commerce.
 
Joe "Racial Jungle" Biden won the nomination in 2020 and lost his support only because he was well demented too close to the election. The GOP is seen as the racist white man's party by brown and black people and that's enough to get them to vote Dem. The majority of people, especially non-white, are utterly tribal when it comes to politics. No amount of failure by the Dems or Republican outreach will change that.
It's hard to believe now being 5 years into Kamala being a complete flop on the national stage, but going into the 2020 Primaries, the Democratic Party puppet candidate was Kamala. She likely was going to be even more of a figure head President than Biden, where the Administration would make all the decisions. She just was completely obliterated by Gabbard at the first debate and the party had to scramble. Biden was obviously an awful candidate. He's a walking gaffe machine, he's obviously mentally declining, but he had the stink of Obama on him, and that was enough to get everyone to agree to team up to stop Trump. Kamala probably would of never been seen in national politics again if Biden hadn't promised a Black Female VP, but even then it wasn't that bad of a compromise. They really didn't know how toxic Kamala was on the national stage until Biden first year, and essentially cut her out of the administration by the end of year two. Going into it, she made the Progs happy that one old dying man was all that stood in the way of the first Black Woman president, and she was still probably willing to be a stooge to the Party Elite.
Trump will be over 90 by the time the 30s are over. Trump will probably more like the Clintons with his family and surrogates being the ones that select candidates. Trump himself will be like Reagan with everyone in the GOP needing to use him as a callback for decades to come.
I don't expect him to keep it up that long, whoever wins in 2028 if they are successful hopefully has enough gravitas to direct the party into 2036, otherwise the movement is dead no matter what.

And Reagan is exactly what I don't want Trump to become. Reagan popularity was held up by the Rinos for decades as they sold out the country and sabotaged their party. Republicans channeling Trump's popularity to justify their ends is the worst case scenario I was describing with the Roman Emperors reference.
 
Wikipedia 'Jake Sullivan' early life...
Sullivan was born in Burlington, Vermont, to a family of Irish descent
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They have a relatively low negative effect on America when compared to the outlandishly harmful behaviour of the filthy Hebes. The Tribe - regardless of political affiliation - has been utterly dedicated to the complete transformation of America’s ethnic heritage.
 
I've been thinking a lot about the natural born citizen thing and wonder if that did get overturned what would make any of us citizens? Because your parents were citizens? How are they citizens, because of their parents, etc? If that's the qualification then it seem your ancestors would've had to have been here when the 14th Amendment was ratified and everyone who came after along with their descendants would also be illegals.

So get out. All of you have to go.
I dunno, how do other countries do it?
 
There's tons of other different cop shows out there that are way better than Cops anyway.

You don't even need television. There are loads of YouTube channels that just publish the police body cam footage. Spend an evening watching the absolute specimens that the police have to deal with and even a full blown hippie would agree the cops need to use more baton.
 
I agree! It's just a shame they didn't write it to say that and we're going to need another Amendment to fix it.
No. The Supreme Court can and should uphold the correct meaning of the Citizenship Clause in the 14th Amendment. Birthright citizenship for children of foreigners was never written into the Constitution and it was never intended to even exist. Just because previous interpretations got it disastrously wrong should not stop the SC from delivering the true meaning of the 14th amendment.

A correct decision on the 14th amendment will be the MOST IMPORTANT ruling AND the most important thing that has happened to America since the Civil War. Demographics are destiny. A country founded by white northern Europeans and crafted in their image and with their values simply will not survive as a teeming hodgepodge of filthy browns and blacks and asians and other undesirables squabbling over resources and having absolutely no loyalty to the idea of America as envisioned by the Founding Fathers.
 
I really wish those "run em over" laws they have in Florida got nationalized. Assuming such a law anywhere is constitutional, there's no way a national one wouldn't be. You don't even need a tortured reading of the law to argue that blocking a major highway affects interstate commerce.
That law has (so far) survived because it's framed in terms of "driver safety." You're not allowed to just plow through any random group of protesters blocking a street. They have to make at least a token effort to hurt you first (hitting your car, trying to open the door or break a window, trying to get to you or drag you out of the car, or being otherwise generally menacing). There's a "fear for your life" element that must be satisfied in order to trigger the law.

Of course, most juries aren't going to think too hard about whether you were really in danger -- they're all sick to death of protests blocking streets. It's also not too hard to provoke an angry mob to try to hurt you (to justify running their asses over) either. So it all balances out in the end.

I agree it should be made a national standard though. Make it federal law so the local activist courts can't completely ignore it (i.e. they'll ignore it, but appellate courts will correct the error).

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You don't even need television. There are loads of YouTube channels that just publish the police body cam footage. Spend an evening watching the absolute specimens that the police have to deal with and even a full blown hippie would agree the cops need to use more baton.
Dude. Read the comments on those videos. People are fucking sick of it. Absolutely sick of it. "The fatigue is real" is a comment I see regularly. More and more calls for tasers, quick arrests, no de-escalation, etc. Nature is definitely healing.
 
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