Debat user @Maeis on lolicon, discord ERP, and the age of consent

[A Very Big Fish]

The fuck? I thought lolicon was a catch-all for anyone who wasn't "canonically" 18.

Sharing this post from the Lolicon/Shotacon Defense Force Thread

Here's Jisho, one of the most prominent Japanese to English dictionaries online.



But, one might argue, "Hey, those are 'L's, clearly this must be a loan word!" Which is absolutely correct, as it comes from the novel Lolita, which I will let Wikipedia describe.



Anyone thinking Loli isn't referring to kids is a moron, and more likely disingenuous. If one earnestly didn't know, fine, but the second you hear about the obvious pedophile connotations, presumably you would drop it, because who the fuck would willing want to call themselves a term with an obvious connection to pedophilia. Anyone who is aware of the connotations and calling themself a lolicon is a degenerate of the highest order, and I wish that the federal government would have a long fucking chat with them.

 

[Maeis]

Sharing this post from the Lolicon/Shotacon Defense Force Thread

Here's Jisho, one of the most prominent Japanese to English dictionaries online.

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But, one might argue, "Hey, those are 'L's, clearly this must be a loan word!" Which is absolutely correct, as it comes from the novel Lolita, which I will let Wikipedia describe.

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Anyone thinking Loli isn't referring to kids is a moron, and more likely disingenuous. If one earnestly didn't know, fine, but the second you hear about the obvious pedophile connotations, presumably you would drop it, because who the fuck would willing want to call themselves a term with an obvious connection to pedophilia. Anyone who is aware of the connotations and calling themself a lolicon is a degenerate of the highest order, and I wish that the federal government would have a long fucking chat with them.

that's.. .really bad. I legit feel gross now

 

[FuluFuckwit]

-bruh-

Anyone labeling themselves a "lolicon" will consume a vast variety of pornographic material, which will include characters that either look like or explicitly are underage, prepubescent girls. Just as most chomos will consume a wide variety of general pornography.

I find the term by itself, disgusting. I find people that want to rape a child or fantasize about raping children (like Blue Archive fans and the general lolicon community) to be fucking disgusting. Even if the attraction itself isn't solely focused on rape and the individual doesn't want to rape a child the attraction is still there and can be potentially dangerous if not dealt with properly.

Two individuals, who are over the age of consent, and both want to have sex, are not evil. People who want to explicitly rape children are evil. People that are sexually attracted to prepubescent or early puberty children are not evil, but they are a potential threat, and they must be dealt with rather than actively encouraged through pornographic artwork, which for the most part is pro-pedo propaganda.

Horny teenagers are daft idiots that need to be protected and taught that fucking at their age is stupid and potentially dangerous.

 

[DoNotFeedTheSneed]

that's.. .really bad. I legit feel gross now

Well now you know.

I really don’t want to sound like a dick but maybe you should do a little research on a topic before you jump in to defend it for months

 

[Maeis]

I really don’t want to sound like a dick but maybe you should do a little research on a topic before you jump in to defend it for months

You're not wrong, but I figured I was "safe" in my assumptions considering any contact with minors (or even basically under-25 year olds, really) is fucking weird as an adult.

 

[harmy.kook]

Anyone thinking Loli isn't referring to kids is a moron, and more likely disingenuous

Thank you!

And the craziest part is the Japanese themselves call it what it is: Pedophilia

Most of the excuses and sweeping is BS from Westerners, ironically enough, having to make a bunch of excuses and twisting the facts that even the Japanese lay out themselves.

-Muh short women
-Muh flat women
-Muh young women.

Meanwhile the Japanese were just saying "little girls"

 

[FuluFuckwit]

that's.. .really bad. I legit feel gross now

I have a feeling you're being disingenuous. There is absolutely no fucking way that you didn't know what the term meant or the history of the term if you were choosing to be active in the anti-loli thread.

There are two possibilities:
1. You didn't fucking backread (unlikely, but possible as half the population are fucking retarded)
2. You're an active lolicon pedogooner who is so far gone into denial due to your own experiences that you absolutely must defend your favored fap material from the evil and cruel community that is calling the "lolicons" what they truly are.

 

[Maeis]

I'm going to double post, I'll commit seppeku later.
I have a feeling you're being disingenuous. There is absolutely no fucking way that you didn't know what the term meant or the history of the term if you were choosing to be active in the anti-loli thread.

There are two possibilities:
1. You didn't fucking backread (unlikely, but possible as half the population are fucking retarded)
2. You're an active lolicon pedogooner who is so far gone into denial due to your own experiences that you absolutely must defend your favored fap material from the evil and cruel community that is calling the "lolicons" what they truly are.

I did not backread hundreds of pages of posts, no.

 

[FuluFuckwit]

I did not backread hundreds of pages of posts, no.

You couldn't even read the first fucking post to get the gist of the arguments presented? Jesus Christ you're about as old mentally as the cartoons you are sexually attracted to.

 

[Gunslinger Spawn]

Asuka is a teenage girl, and is not a loli

Nigga come on. NGE is literally made for those people.
Being edgy and having kike crosses don't excuse its bullshit.

 

[DoNotFeedTheSneed]

I did not backread hundreds of pages of posts, no.

Did you at least read the OP?

 

[Maeis]

Did you at least read the OP?

I did not, and I agree I probably should have.

 

[A Very Big Fish]

And the craziest part is the Japanese themselves call it what it is: Pedophilia

I didn't mention it in that post, but the word Loli comes from lolicon which comes from a transliterated contraction of Lolita-Complex: ロリータコンプレックス (Rorita Conpurekusu), lolicon is explicitly about specifically someone who has a fetish for "lolis", so anyone saying they're a lolicon is literally calling themselves a pedophile.

 

[Hanged Man]

Aspiring forensics expert and still fails to read the OP!

 

[FuluFuckwit]

Nigga come on. NGE is literally made for those people.
Being edgy and having kike crosses don't excuse its bullshit.

Actual loli is sub 12, or looks like a little girl.
Trainers definition in "Lolita Complex" includes teens, but for the most part none of the characters in Evangaleon fit into the body type that is commonly portrayed as loli by the Japs. Evangeleon also seems more marketed towards horny teenagers rather than towards genuine pedophiles. I'm also not gonna fucking watch it cause VOTOMs is the better moody mech show with PTSD.

 

[DoNotFeedTheSneed]

I did not, and I agree I probably should have.

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume that you’re extremely naive and not being disingenuous.

You went to high school in 2009, right? So you’re in your mid 30s now. You seriously should know better, man. I’m 22 and even I know that you need to look into stuff before making rash decisions and committing to arguing about it for months on end.

The best course of action for you to take now is to issue a formal retraction of all of your posts in defense of lolicons and to stop powerleveling.

 

[Maeis]

The best course of action for you to take now is to issue a formal retraction of all of your posts in defense of lolicons and to stop powerleveling.

That I will do

You went to high school in 2009, right? So you’re in your mid 30s now. You seriously should know better, man. I’m 22 and even I know that you need to look into stuff before making rash decisions and committing to arguing about it for months on end.

I didn't want to state my actual age, but I decided I don't care any more. I'm 30 and graduated high school in 2013.

 

[Maeis]

I am threadbanned from the lolicon defenders thread, so I say it here

I, Maeis, hereby retract any support I have given to lolicons and apologize for not knowing shit.

 

[DoNotFeedTheSneed]

I am threadbanned from the lolicon defenders thread, so I say it here

I, Maeis, hereby retract any support I have given to lolicons and apologize for not knowing shit.

Take this as a lesson, man. You can’t just rush into stuff that you don’t have an informed opinion on. Look into stuff more. You can’t rely on assumptions because they make an ass out of u and me.

 

[LongForgotten]

I did not, and I agree I probably should have.

You didn't even need to read the OP btw, I'm pretty certain that right on top of when you post there's the guidelines for the board you're on. It tells you very clearly to not try to defend the communities being watched, I don't even know how you failed to ever read that when you've been in that thread for at least 5-7+ months. All you had to do was say nothing, but I imagine you felt the need to interject because you yourself are a huge coomer. I'm not going to imply that you're into loli or like kids, but sticking your neck out for them did you no good.