US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[Nihil Jung]

Why are you arguing about things that didn't happen when we're talking about real life?

Because the fact the suggestion was even seriously considered exemplifies the democrats inability to comprehend money and its value, and that means more genius suggestions like that are coming down the pipe.

It's pretty simple, really.

 

[moocow]

What's yours? If Kamala Harris did this you would be incensed. But because Trump does it he gets a pass?

Are you denying reality or did you not click on the link to check if it was real or not?

How are you so astonishingly stupid and obtuse? Is it deliberate?

Grok helped me investigate your retardation because I can't be assed to waste hours thinking up new ways to insult your intelligence (or lack thereof). Click the spoiler for AI-assisted enlightenment. It's disappointing but not surprising that a simple LLM is somehow smarter than you.

Spoiler: Read very, very slowly to understand the depth of your error.

Per Grok (which used 25 separate sources that you're welcome to investigate further if your faggotry demands it): "The U.S. government first started allowing citizens to donate money to reduce the national debt in 1961, when a specific account was established for "Gifts to Reduce the Public Debt."

Trump was not President in 1961. Kennedy was. Ergo, Trump did not ask you to donate your money to cure the national debt. The Grok continues: "The decision to allow citizens to donate money specifically to reduce the national debt was formalized through legislation and administrative actions by the U.S. Congress and the Department of the Treasury. In 1961, Congress passed legislation amending the Second Liberty Bond Act to establish a specific account for "Gifts to Reduce the Public Debt," allowing donations to be directed exclusively toward reducing the public debt. This built on earlier frameworks, such as the Act of February 25, 1843, which permitted the Treasury to accept general donations.

"The key figure in authorizing the implementation was the Secretary of the Treasury, who had the authority to manage such fiscal mechanisms. In 1961, C. Douglas Dillon served as Treasury Secretary under President John F. Kennedy and would have overseen the administrative setup of this account. The Treasury's Bureau of the Fiscal Service (then part of the Bureau of the Public Debt) was responsible for managing these contributions, ensuring they were credited to reduce the debt, as outlined in the legal framework established by Congress."

Finally, Trump didn't even create (or order the creation of) the current website. It was launched in 2000, when Bill Clinton was President. Our lord and savior Grok once again explains: "The current U.S. government website for donating to reduce the national debt, including via PayPal and Venmo, is part of the Pay.gov platform, managed by the Bureau of the Fiscal Service within the U.S. Department of the Treasury. The "Gifts to Reduce the Public Debt" program, active since 1996, was updated to include PayPal and Venmo as payment options in early 2025, with Venmo added between February 22 and March 8, 2025, and PayPal introduced around the same time, as noted by NPR reporter Jack Corbett.

"The Pay.gov program, launched in 2000 (not 1996), was developed by the U.S. Department of the Treasury’s Bureau of the Fiscal Service to facilitate online payments and collections for federal agencies. The "Gifts to Reduce the Public Debt" program, which predates Pay.gov and has been active since 1961, was integrated into Pay.gov later to allow online donations.

"No single individual is publicly credited with directly launching Pay.gov, as it was a collaborative effort by the Bureau of the Fiscal Service, likely under the direction of then-Commissioner of the Fiscal Service, Richard L. Gregg, who served during the program's early development. The initiative stemmed from broader federal efforts to modernize financial transactions under the Clinton administration, but specific attribution to one person is not documented. The Treasury’s fiscal management team, including technical and administrative staff, would have driven the implementation, with oversight from senior officials like Gregg."

Please stop posting after sniffing glue or eating paste. Grok didn't mention that explicitly, I just made a reasonable assumption. You stupid fuck.

 

[Polyboros2]

Are you so sure? Why would the Republicans specifically block legislation that would make that true?

Trump's not keeping it, it's being given to his Presidential Library to be put on display. Like the one at Reagan's.

The ballroom is fucking awesome. Why doesn't The White House have one? Why are they forced to use a shitty tent? It's a good project that TRUMP and other donors are paying for, so the bill isn't even on the Taxpayer. It's about giving back.

I think Trump is really focusing on having his name put on presidential history this administration. Adding states, changing the Gulf of Mexico, the statuary, a large exquisite addition to the White House, all stuff that will be talked about in 50 years on tours or in history books.

 

[Malodorous Merkin]

We're not talking economics, we're talking about a better use of 200 million dollars than a ballroom for the upper classes to enjoy. For that matter, a ball room that likely won't exist post Trump presidency.

Why are we pretending he's building a national monument of some sort? He's building a fucking gilded room for him schmooze his friends in.

Could you please give us a comprehensive list of worthwhile and justified taxpayer-funded national infrastructure expenditures, mister retard on the internet?

We'll pin it up on the refrigerator and put a smiley face sticker on it.

 

[Barleys]

Sorry, I forgot retards get all their news from gab and crack heads babbling outside the gas station.

You can stop larping that you're a nazi now.

 

[GamerGateSurvivor]

I don't care what all the doomers say. Total indian death is in the tube. I will live to see the H1B shit end.

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That headline's so ridiculous I can't tell if it's a parody or not.

 

[TrinityReformed]

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That headline's so ridiculous I can't tell if it's a parody or not.

That poor grandfather.

 

[RantyAndy]

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That headline's so ridiculous I can't tell if it's a parody or not.

I'm sorry -- THESE are the people labeling Trump supporters and republicans as evil??? It's like they throw around demoralizing titles while going back to engage in evil shit that most folks wouldn't dream of doing. It's all so tiresome.

Extra; lol lmao Indians being scammers is such a power stereotype that even the "stop engaging in racist stereotypes" groups bring up Indian scammers.

 

[ThisIsGonnaBeGood]

Having indoor spaces for large events is better than having tents and sloppy thrown together shit in the yard like some third world shithole.

I've had to set up massive tents before. It's a huge pain in the ass that takes dozens, if not hundreds, of people to do it, and you just have to pray the weather is decent.
If it's boiling, raining, snowing, or even just severely windy, you're in for a bad time. Having a permanent structure just makes long-term sense.

 

[Back me up!]

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The biggest flush in history is brewing

Yeah, I saw that as well. If Miller gets one word into Trump ear without Vance it is all over for India. Just one jobs report and Steven whispering a simple way he can turbo charge the jobs reports / keep money in the US / Fuck over Apple for defying him.

 

[Mister Fister]

Yeah, I saw that as well. If Miller gets one word into Trump ear without Vance it is all over for India. Just one jobs report and Steven whispering a simple way he can turbo charge the jobs reports / keep money in the US / Fuck over Apple for defying him.

I think Barron already has, otherwise why else did Vivec and Elon get removed.

 

[Korpon]

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The biggest flush in history is brewing

Travel ban on India please Donald, the toilet must be flushed saar

 

[babyDunk]

Drumf could do the funniest thing

Spoiler

H‑1B Visa Recipients—Demographic Breakdown​

Category	Summary
Approvals	≈ 386,318 H‑1B petitions were approved in FY 2023. Combination of initial (new and cap-exempt) and continuing extensions/transfers
Countries of birth	– India: ~72 % (≈279,400) – China: ~12 % (≈45,300) – Philippines: ~1.2 % – Canada, South Korea, Mexico, Pakistan, Taiwan, Brazil, Nepal: each <1 % individually – Together, India + China account for ~84% of approvals; no other country exceeds 2%
Gender	– Male: ~71 % – Female: ~29 % – Among Indian-born beneficiaries: ~76% male / 24% female – Among Chinese-born: ~53% male / 47% female – Among Filipino-born: ~36% male / 64% female

It's being paid for by Trump himself and private donors. Why the fuck are you complaining? It's cool and we should have one; every other nation does

I think OPs point is that Trump is focusing on the wrong things...... that is objectively correct, especially in relation to ballroom.

Please let this happen.

I think Barron already has, otherwise why else did Vivec and Elon get removed.

Vivek got removed cause he went a bit mask off when he called for Americans to be replaced because of "inferior culture" , and Elon did not get removed

 

[moocow]

Travel ban on India please Donald, the toilet must be flushed saar

That and disconnect India from the internet (and phone network). Scams would dry up overnight.

 

[Back me up!]

I think Barron already has.

Barron has been a true and honest solider about this. I'm glad that the online chirping about India and its problems has gotten bigger and bigger.

Can literally solve the new college hiring jobs and turbo charge the US economy with a single flush.

 

[clipartfan92]

Texas House Democrats flee to Chicago to deny GOP’s congressional redistricting effort
Chicago Tribune (archive.ph)
By Rick Pearson and Jeremy Gorner
2025-08-03 21:00:41GMT

Spoiler

Opting to use what Texas politicians called a nuclear option, Democratic members of the Texas House of Representatives left for Chicago on Sunday under threat of fines and arrest to deny Republicans the quorum they need to redraw five congressional districts aimed at helping President Donald Trump and the national GOP maintain a U.S. House majority in next year’s midterm elections.

The Texas Democrats were scheduled to be met by a supportive Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker upon their arrival in Chicago. Pritzker issued a statement echoing Texas Democratic arguments that Republicans were using a special legislative session in Austin, aimed at providing relief for last month’s flood victims in the state’s Hill Country, to please Trump and “as political cover to push through a racially gerrymandered congressional map.”

“This is not a decision we make lightly, but it is one we make with absolute moral clarity,” state Rep. Gene Wu, the chair of the Texas House Democratic Caucus, said in a statement.

“We’re leaving Texas to fight for Texans,” Wu said. “We will not allow disaster relief to be held hostage for a Trump gerrymander. We’re not walking out on our responsibilities; we’re walking out on a rigged system that refuses to listen to the people we represent. As of today, this corrupt special session is over.”

By coming to Illinois, the Democrats from Texas are leaving a state where Republicans dominate and will find themselves in a state where the opposite is true.

Pritzker, in his statement, said the move denies Texas Republican Gov. Greg Abbott a quorum “to pass his rigged redistricting scheme,” which was encouraged by Trump’s political allies.

Pritzker and Abbott clashed often in the last few years over the Texas governor’s decision to bus and fly thousands of immigrants from the southern border to Chicago in part to mock state and city sanctuary policies, resulting in Illinois and the city spending tens of millions of dollars for services.

A source close to Pritzker said discussions about Texas Democrats seeking help from the governor began June 28, when Pritzker attended a dinner for the Oklahoma Democratic Party.

There, Pritzker met with Kendall Scudder, the head of the Texas Democratic Party, and the two spoke about the challenges facing Texas Democrats. Pritzker vowed to support and defend them if they came to Illinois, the source said.

The topic came up again a little more than a week ago when the governor met on Chicago’s South Side with some Texas Democratic lawmakers to discuss that state’s GOP midterm redistricting effort, the source said.

The 150-member Texas House has 88 Republicans and 62 Democrats, with 100 members required to be present for a quorum call in order to conduct legislative business. It was not immediately clear how many Democrats were making the trip to Chicago.

It’s not the first time that Texas House Democrats fled the state capital in Austin to deny a quorum. In July 2021, when Republicans in the state pushed for tighter restrictions on voting, they spent five weeks in Washington, D.C. The move prompted a Texas House rule of $500 per day fines for any such future absences.

But the Texas Tribune reported that in recent days, members of the state’s Democratic congressional delegation were contacting their campaign donor base to put together funds to compensate missing members for fines as well as their accommodations in Illinois. One estimate put the cost at $1 million per month.

Additionally, Texas Republican Attorney General Ken Paxton, who is mounting a primary challenge to GOP U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, has offered the services of his office in “hunting down and compelling the attendance of anyone who abandons their office” to deny quorum.

Pritzker, who is a billionaire, has no plans to pay for the Texas Democrats’ stay in the Chicago area, but his campaign staff would make hotel recommendations and help with other logistics, according to the Pritzker source.

The move by Democrats came a day after a Republican-led Texas House panel voted along party lines to advance a draft congressional map altering current district boundaries to create five districts that favor Republicans. The GOP currently holds a 25-12 advantage among the 38-member congressional delegation, with one vacancy.

While the U.S. Department of Justice under Trump sought to offer legal justification for redrawing the map, contending four districts were unconstitutionally racially gerrymandered, Texas House Republicans flatly stated their goal was to increase GOP representation in the state’s congressional delegation.

“Different from everyone else, I’m telling you, I’m not beating around the bush,” said state Rep. Todd Hunter, the Corpus Christi Republican who sponsored the remap legislation. “We have five new districts, and these five new districts are based on political performance.”

Texas Democrats said the new map would come at the expense of representation for Black and Latino voters who would either be packed into new districts or widely dispersed among them.

It’s not the first time that Illinois has become home for another state’s Democratic lawmakers. In 2011, Indiana Democrats crossed the border and stayed for five weeks in the Champaign-Urbana area to deny a quorum over a Republican push for union-weakening legislation and creation of a school voucher program. A right-to-work bill passed the following year under GOP majorities achieved through the 2011 remap.

 

[Sammich]

Texas House Democrats flee to Chicago to deny GOP’s congressional redistricting effort
Chicago Tribune (archive.ph)
By Rick Pearson and Jeremy Gorner
2025-08-03 21:00:41GMT

They need to send the fuckign US Marshal service after these fucks.

 

[Barleys]

Oklahoma Democratic Party

Lmao thats real funny

 

[moocow]

Texas House Democrats flee to Chicago to deny GOP’s congressional redistricting effort

This shit again? Didn't the governor swear out arrest warrants on these faggots last time they pulled this stunt (during Covid, IIRC, with "resistance" photos showing them on a plane wearing no masks)?

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

Texas House Democrats flee to Chicago to deny GOP’s congressional redistricting effort

How many times have the Texas Democrats fled the State to cuck the Republicans. This is the 5th time now right?