King of the hill appreciation thread - Yup.

[Lord of the Large Pants]

It was good, but not amazing. Not as bad as I thought it would be. Kind of hated what they did with Connie and all the replacement VAs totally blow, but there's enough of that good Mike Judge shit to keep me interested.

Actually the thing that shocked me most is that the show didn't address Luanne, Lucky, or Gracie AT ALL. Not even a passing reference.

 

[JayseeDenton]

The voices for Bobby and Dale seem really inconsistent.

Agreed, more so for dale. Sometimes I think "oh okay... yeah it's dale but with an older throat, probably after a lot of smoking" then other times it's just not even close.

After seeing the first 2 episodes, overall this isn't a disaster. The big question for me was what statement do they make on clown world. So far it seems like they're not really making a statement on it at all, stuff is happenning related to it, gags that cut both ways, but it's not really the point of the story. I think that's the right approach and largely what the original run did.

As autistic as it sounds, i'm worried we won't get a gun episode. Dale's gun episodes were some of the best and a core staple of the show, there was usually at least one per season. I fear either the network or even Mike himself decided some faggot shit like "ohhhh school shootings make it too real! we can't depict guns at all!". Hopefully i'm wrong.

I do love that they've kept the theme of "joseph is dale's son in spirit" running because that always worked and it works here.

 

[basically gayer fez]

It was good, but not amazing. Not as bad as I thought it would be. Kind of hated what they did with Connie and all the replacement VAs totally blow, but there's enough of that good Mike Judge shit to keep me interested.

Actually the thing that shocked me most is that the show didn't address Luanne, Lucky, or Gracie AT ALL. Not even a passing reference.

There are a couple of close-up shots with their photo on the wall in a couple of scenes.

They don't even mention other characters such as the Strickland workers, Clark & Dooley, etc.

 

[GungusDingaling]

Bobby should have been played by Shane Gillis. This season feels like skinwalker KOTH, something about the animation is just bad. Maybe it’s how everyone’s teeth stick out of their mouths a little.
I had to stop after episode two. I think I could have kept going if it weren’t for Dale’s voice. They should have written him out of the show with some crazy theory gone wrong or something. They made Peggy extra annoying and made everyone outwardly hate her, which is not how it seemed in the original.
I don’t understand how Hank was confounded by clown world things as if they aren’t present in middle class Saudi Arabia

 

[HarveySperg41]

I don't know, I'm one episode in and it's pretty fucking good. The line "when you get to the end of Netflix you get something called a wellness check. "
Absolutely fucking killed me. Made me choke on my food. And anti mask dale is a fucking hilarious bit.

I missed that joke initially. But I’ve enjoyed what I watched so far. I do like what they did with Boby as an adult so far.

The Jerry Jones and the dump made me laugh.

 

[Neil]

I thought the reboot was pretty good. I'm glad that Bobby grew into a more mature/socially well-adjusted version of his dad instead of continuing to act like his 12 year old self and recycling the same jokes we've seen for almost 30 years. Hank not changing is expected and welcome. Peggy is still the worst character on the show. The new black guy who drops in on occasion is cool because he's a "yes, and" to the group like they are to each other instead of fighting the dynamic.

Bobby being a ladies man is still extremely funny though. He really did adopt Cotton's genes. I was afraid the new gf would lead to some drawn out cringe love triangle with a doomed breakup considering the fact that we do see Bobby and Connie sleep with each other in the trailer but it ending with him breaking things off with her for taking a shit on Jerry Jones desk (in an episode where Micah Parsons was a guest star) was a fucking hilarious twist.

As for the voices:

Toby Huss does a pretty good impression of Johnny Hardwick (poor guy was absolutely sick recording the first 7 episodes, you can really hear it), but holy SHIT the replacements for Khan and Ted SUCK. Khan only somewhat sounds right like 20% of the time because Ronnie Chieng, the guy who replaced Huss, has a naturally heavy, awful sounding Chinese accent that's present in every other voice acting role he does.

Ted's replacement is just awful, he doesn't understand the character.

Ted is funny because his American accent and manner of speech is extremely forced. He's SUPPOSED to sound fake and robotic. He's a social climbing elitist. NONE of his mannerisms are even close to caricaturing Asians like Khan and Minh do. It wouldn't even take an expert voice actor to replicate the voice Huss did for him, you could hire a random guy off the street and ask him to speak from the roof of his mouth and plug his nose. When you take Ted's voice away from him, you take his character away from him.

Numerical scores are stupid so I'll give this a thumbs-up for anyone looking to burn an afternoon binge-watching.

 

[Sicko Hunter]

Watching the new KOTH I like it so far but Dale's voice is completely awful. It's like someone doing a horrible impression of Dale doing a voice of someone else that's not Dale. Also they made him like a parody of himself "GUYS DID YOU KNOW I'M A CONSPIRACY THEORIST?!".

 

[ForgedBlades]

Dale should have been written to have survived throat cancer while Hank was gone and given him an electronic larynx like Ned on South Park. That unironically would have been a better solution.

Also they made him like a parody of himself

I don't know if you've seen the episode where he thinks Hank and Peggy are spies, but it's one of the worst instances of Flanderization I've ever seen.

 

[Sundae]

I just finished binge watching the season. I don't have Hulu, but thanks to the magic of the internet I was able to watch it for free (thank you kind stranger who uploaded the episodes!).

Some things I liked:

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-The background photo of Luanne and Lucky was a nice little nod, shame they weren't even mentioned at all.


-Dale's spy camera squirrel.

-When Kahn closes the garage door to whisper to Hank and Hank says that "that was unneccasarily dramatic".

-Hank's reaction to the geckos going at it on Kahn's garage bed.

-It's a shame Willow isn't sticking around, she was fun. I liked her more than this season's version of Connie, and thought she had better chemistry with Bobby.

-It was good to see Junichiro again, even if it was brief.

-While it was my least favorite episode of the season, the ending of episode 9 where Hank says "too bad old man" as he realizes GH won't grow up to be like Cotton was satisfying, considering all that Hank had to endure growing up with Cotton. Hank got a win in the end.

-I was surprised to see Buck Strickland is still alive, with all the heart problems he's had over the years I thought they might have killed him off. I'm glad they didn't, though.

Also this bit cracked me up.

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"Except the bugs. The bugs die."

 

[Jace on ice]

This is especially disappointing because I've seen Do The Universe and the new Beavis and Butthead season so I know Mike Judge is capable of much better than whatever this is.

 

[florida_cat_enjoyer]

Just watched a few episodes. The pacing seems really off. So far it’s not bad but isn’t really good either, which is what I excepted. To be honest my expectations were EXTREMELY low. Some jokes did make me chuckle. Peggy is extremely Flanderized to the point of being infuriating. I wish they made her speak perfect Arabic but be unsure of her abilities, that would have been funny.

Chane going to SMU is perfect. Connie at UT Dallas is…weird, it’s the fourth best school in Texas. I guess they had to make the locations work since Rice is in Houston and UT Austin is obviously in Austin. I thought Arlen was more Central Texas and closer to Austin/SA than Dallas.

Dale replacement voice is pretty bad, it’s very noticeable. Khan’s voice is an abomination. Joseph has been an unexpectedly interesting character.

Unfortunately there is some “millennial writing” as shredded nerd would say, basically having to explain the joke as if the audience is brain dead. A good example is the beer episode when Joseph mentions how easy it is to catch people who cheat on their spouses, then immediately say “Hey John Redcorn is here!” I noticed this a few times.

 

[ForgedBlades]

Peggy is extremely Flanderized to the point of being infuriating.

There's a B-plot in one of the episodes (Bill pretending to be married to Peggy around his black friends) that more or less breaks the fourth wall and serves as a very meta commentary on Peggy's personality that's actually pretty funny. One of the few things I've enjoyed so far.

 

[Sicko Hunter]

I don't know if you've seen the episode where he thinks Hank and Peggy are spies, but it's one of the worst instances of Flanderization I've ever seen.

is this from the new series or a late season original run episode? The last few seasons got pretty bad.

 

[ForgedBlades]

is this from the new series or a late season original run episode? The last few seasons got pretty bad.

Reboot episode 5.

 

[Sicko Hunter]

From the very first episode of the reboot Dale is a parody of himself. The only thing he talks about now is conspiracies. Dale from the original series could have normal conversations without going into schizo babble theories. It's just really obnoxious. A complete and total flanderziation. And the worst part is Dale is the best character in the series so it's impossible to ignore. It's like if Homer's voice actor died and they brought in a guy who sort of sounded like him from fiver India to replace him. and all his dialogue was just mmmm donuts me like beer nothing else.

 

[Lithos]

Just finished it. I'm going to say it's a decent 5 out of 10. Right down the middle. I liked it. It was tame. It barely touched clown world stuff, and when it did, it kinda backed away to say that the Hills aren't really into that and don't NEED to be into that. That is something I should be thankful for.

On top of that, I really appreciate that they made Bobby competent, like he just didn't stay an immature kid, he grew up and is pretty smart, all without his college education.

The animation is kinda killing me, though. And Huss is going to take some serious getting used to.

I also agree with the bad, bad replacements for Khan and Ted.

 

[The Last Stand]

I can see Connie getting suckered into sjw bullshit like poly relationships but isn't Chang a stereotypical alpha male jock type?

I can't imagine he's the kind of dude to be ok with someone else piping his girl.

Actually, I would think Kahn would be okay with it to impress Ted or get closer to his family.

 

[Toxinophile]

From the very first episode of the reboot Dale is a parody of himself. The only thing he talks about now is conspiracies. Dale from the original series could have normal conversations without going into schizo babble theories.

I think the flanderization is just a symptom of the dense pacing of this new season. Dale would've probably had more normal moments if the Hill family weren't taking up so much screentime. This continuation is very focused on giving thematically equal attention to Hank and Bobby. I personally like what the new season is going for but sadly it does feel like the extended cast is being underutilized.

They definitely know how to write Dale more normally. The episode with Dale acting as an exterminator for Bobby's restaurant was really fun. Sadly, it's pretty apparent that they wont give Mr. Gribble the proper characterization he deserves. Though that's probably because all of the characterization was taken up by Bobby's relationship drama and Hank's acclimation to modernity. If I had to speculate, I'd also have to say Johnny Hardwick's declining health probably had an impact on how they were gonna write Dale into the season as a whole. Not to excuse any bad writing, but it looks like Dale just wasn't gonna be important for this season as a whole, and the show has flanderized him into a wacky side gag because of it.

 

[SIMIΔN]

Well, I just finished Episode 3
- Ted's new VA didn't bother me, he still sounds like a late mildaged assimilated Asian immigrant. Chane's VA played his jerk character perfectly, which makes Kahn's VA sound even more out of place. They were right not to recast Bobby, Pamela Adlon is somehow still believable as a 21yo man .
- "Bet your bottom dollar Mel Blanc wouldn't have been able to do Speedy Gonzalez nowadays"... "Sounds like a Whiteguy who stole lots of jobs from Latinos and farm animals"
- The cultural appropriation plot contrasted awesomely with the walking stereotypes of the competition.
- Hank is growing to accept Bobby as his own man.
- I didn't mind Dale's eccentricity, remember this is the first season for many people, and they don't have much time to get him re-established.
also...

 

[Commander X]

They did the meme.
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One of the writers for "Velma" wrote this episode, unsurprisingly.