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Rancid Xylitol said:
More like "could have been done". I think "Section 31" is about the best the current crop of shit writers/producers can do. I think if anything, "The Orville" is closer to the roots of TOS/TNG than any of the NuTrek garbage out there now.

I'm continually amazed how many newer shows are just "reboot/rework" of old IP, except they strip away everything that makes it important. It's like Alex Kurtzman sat down and said: "What if we did a Trek show, but go heavy on action, light on philosophy, make all the characters irreverent, abandon the Prime Directive, throw in lots of fights, sex and quirky catch phases?"

From the little I've seen of Section 31, it doesn't seem to leverage anything that was Star Trek. Why doesn't Alex Kurtzman and friends just launch a new show called "Cool Space Buddies" and he's not bound by the behaviors and aims of the old show? It's like people forgot how to create new characters and can only race and gender swap existing ones.
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Just watched 31 this morning and I'm still recovering. First, Michelle Yeoh is a terrible actress, like porn-tier, but she looks good in skin-tight black leather. As for the movie, I can't believe how un-Star Trek it was, and I don't even really like Star Trek all that much. It was 90 minutes of quipping, swearing, torturing, and characters trying to out-weep each other over how bad their lives were. And everyone talked like they were from 2025; there was a character who said shit like "I love that for us" and "You're a bad bitch."

Everyone who pretended to like Picard Season 3 because some bought and paid for grifter told you to should hang their heads in shame for inflicting this on us.
 
TaimuRadiu said:
You know what would have been a kino last arc for DS9?

>4000 Jem Hadar warships pour out of the Wormhole
>Gul Dukat is at the head
>he broadcasts to DS9, "ATTENTION BAJORAN WORKERS! "

Now THAT would have been awesome.
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Quarterback Rex Grossman said:
Just watched 31 this morning and I'm still recovering. First, Michelle Yeoh is a terrible actress, like porn-tier, but she looks good in skin-tight black leather. As for the movie, I can't believe how un-Star Trek it was, and I don't even really like Star Trek all that much. It was 90 minutes of quipping, swearing, torturing, and characters trying to out-weep each other over how bad their lives were. And everyone talked like they were from 2025; there was a character who said shit like "I love that for us" and "You're a bad bitch."

Everyone who pretended to like Picard Season 3 because some bought and paid for grifter told you to should hang their heads in shame for inflicting this on us.
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Section 31 is the kind of plot point that needs subtlety and nuance in it's writing to do justice, along with an understanding of human nature and what the actual cost of a "paradise" would be. Understanding that the wholesome chungus post-scarcity galactic community Roddenberry vision of the future would have a cost. That to even have those ideals, and survive, you would need to break them when necessary.

If someone like Picard was the grand poobah of the Federation, Earth would be a giant Ketracel-white production facility by the end of the show. Or a Klingon mining camp. Or a Romulan owned pile of dust.

At the end of the day the federation NEEDS people like Sisko, and when necessary, people like Sloan. Out of sight out of mind so the good little bald Captains around the galaxy can sleep at night, but still there. Pulling the trigger.


Kurtzman era trek writers can't tie their own fucking shoes. Of course the whole thing came out as flaming dogshit lmao.
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
The lost Dominion fleet could be a very, very interesting plot device.
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Also I would have loved to see a gigantic space battle with all the Fleet that was resting at DS9 and Bajor fighting the Jem Hadar warships so Sisko can make a line for Dukat's flagship with the Defiant.

It would have been so awesome...

@Quarterback Rex Grossman

Whatever at least you get to see her dressed up sexy in Discovery in a threesome with Orions. The Section 31 stuff was in production long before Picard Season 3 which actually was really great compared to what you had before. And the definitive statement "The Borg are OVER" was just great.

You may of course thank Janeway for this. Or blame Janeway. I also think the Romulan hypernova wouldn't have happened since the Voyager was probably going to fly thru the Romulan Star Empire at one point anyhow and they would have used science and shit to fix it.

Re Section 31 sperging:

I thought when I was watching it as a teenager that it was just one guy who got a bunch of advanced tech and was waging a one man war on the Dominion with clones and shit. It's not like "insane scientist doing things by himself" wasn't already a trope in Star Trek dating back to TOS anyhow.
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
The lost Dominion fleet could be a very, very interesting plot device.
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Reminds me of when In a Mirror Darkly used a lost ship from TOS as a plotpoint.
gaysexenjoyer said:
Section 31 is the kind of plot point that needs subtlety and nuance in it's writing to do justice, along with an understanding of human nature and what the actual cost of a "paradise" would be. Understanding that the wholesome chungus post-scarcity galactic community Roddenberry vision of the future would have a cost. That to even have those ideals, and survive, you would need to break them when necessary.
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Discovery, Lower Decks, and the movie just don't get
TaimuRadiu said:
I also think the Romulan hypernova wouldn't have happened since the Voyager was probably going to fly thru the Romulan Star Empire at one point anyhow and they would have used science and shit to fix it.
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Just imagine some captain in charge of patrolling the Neutral Zone in the USS Ben Franklin, only to see a lost Starfleet vessel being escorted by several Romulan Warbirds.
 
Quarterback Rex Grossman said:
Michelle Yeoh is a terrible actress, like porn-tier,
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I think a couple years back I caught Last Christmas, and Michelle Yeoh was in it, so naturally when she showed up I legit groaned out loud in front of everyone because I’m so conditioned to seeing her in trash, but here she was the best thing in the movie. I’ve come to the conclusion that the Mirror Georgiou character is unsalvageable. The performance goes beyond hammy since that’s literally the only way she can try to entertain the audience at this point.

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Screamer_2 said:
I haven't seen any promos or descriptions, will the incoming Star Trek Strange New Worlds be about something or a gimmick and lame interpersonal interactions of the crew.

Also, will Spock fuck?
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Ok, watched the latest episode. Let's check in.

It is directly implied Spock and La'an are fucking. So check.

Episode was heavily based around interpersonal interactions, although it didn't follow through. Pealed of characters in pairs and then did shit all with that. Oh Uhura and romance plot guy paired off. Goes no where. Spock and his ex's new boyfriend. Does nothing with it. Tension between Spock's ex and current girlfriend. Does nothing with it.

Some sort of set up for evil beings which I assume will feature later in the season. The episode relied heavily on character just explains something that makes no sense and the character wouldn't know or be able to figure out to progress the plot. Mumbo jumbo nonsense that was particularly bad. Once again an episode that is not written by a good storyteller or someone who understands science and is unqualified to write science fiction.

Star Trek being Community. Character making a documentary about what is going on. Check.
 
Can you imagine if there wasn't FTL tech in Star Trek, so it's just sleeper ships, interstellar arks, or relativistic slower-than-light spaceflight -- instead of warp drive?

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Enkarashaddam 4 years ago said:
Janeway vs COVID 19, 2021 colorized
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(And remember a time when you could play Star Trek YT clips in embeds on other sites? Kiwi Farms remembers.)

Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
Because if it were interstellar, generations would pass in between systems.
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With relativistic, it could be just a few years for nearby systems and generations for further away, while onboard that ship it could be much shorter, because time dilation.

Relativistic Time Dilation at Accelerated Velocities (With Side Benefit of Artificial Gravity)
 
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Welf Welf said:
It's either a plot device in a novel or STO, I can't remember which. Maybe even both.
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It was a plot device in STO, with the Prophets could only temporarily shift the fleet for X amount of time and the time was up. Player character had to retrieve that female founder from the Federation holding facility 4028 to get the fleet to stand down. Not too much combat as the Federation, KDF and Free Romulan Republic did not want to chance restarting the war with all of the Dominion. Saving grace was the "lost" Dominion fleet was wary of starting shit until they figure out wtf happened and weren't going to do anything until they got orders from the female founder.
 
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