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Should be a wild four years.

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Current members of the House of Representatives
https://www.house.gov/representatives

Current members of the Senate
https://www.senate.gov/senators/

Current members of the US Supreme Court
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/
 
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I am calling total "nothing ever happens" on Omar being impeached, let alone being denaturalized and deported.
I have to agree, still I am glad Trump is calling it out and shitting on her for it. If theres enough public pressure, they may do it but again, I doubt it.

Its more about peaking people and having them notice degenerate things the democrats have been doing and Im all for it.
 
It was a good time tbh, helped get my mind off it all really. never seen a longer list of people getting banned either, lol.
I got updated on the Charlie Kirk thread and apparently it was just a ton of Jew sperging, glad to see that I missed it because arguing with the retards would have been too tempting.

Balkanization of the US started:

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Several Northeastern States and America’s Largest City Announce the Northeast Public Health Collaborative​

Voluntary Coalition includes Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York State, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and New York City


Regional Partnership Brings Together Public Health Agencies and Leaders to Share Expertise, Improve Coordination, and Promote and Protect Evidence-Based Public Health

Work Groups Created to Identify Opportunities for Collaboration Including Public Health Emergency Preparedness, Vaccine Recommendations, Data Collection, Infectious Disease Management and Laboratory Services


September 18, 2025 — Several Northeastern states and America’s largest city have been collaborating since early 2025 and today formally announced the Northeast Public Health Collaborative, a voluntary regional coalition of public health agencies and leaders, brought together to share expertise, improve coordination, enhance capacity, strengthen regional readiness, and promote and protect evidence-based public health.

The Collaborative’s shared purpose is to work together in new ways – optimizing the use of shared resources, innovating and reimagining core services – to ensure trust in public health, respond to public health threats, advance community health and strengthen confidence in vaccines and science-based medicine. The group’s shared goal is to protect the health, safety and well-being of all residents by providing information based on science, data, and evidence, while working to ensure equitable access to vaccines, medications and services.

The regional partnership, which was informally established several months ago, held its first in-person meeting in Rhode Island in August. The Collaborative has already formed interjurisdictional working groups to identify opportunities for collaboration and shared planning across multiple public health disciplines including public health emergency preparedness and response, vaccine recommendations and purchasing, data collection and analysis, infectious disease, epidemiology and laboratory capacity and services.

Members of the Collaborative worked together on science-based guidance for health care personnel (HCP) advising on precautions health care workers should take to protect themselves and patients during respiratory virus season. Other examples of collaborative efforts include sharing information on public health emergency preparedness related to three FIFA (International Federation of Association Football) World Cup host cities within the collaborative, exploring workforce pipeline activities given the understaffing in public health and coordinating state lab related activities and services.

Connecticut Department of Public Health Commissioner Manisha Juthani, M.D., said, “In public health, we are always stronger together. Pathogens know no borders. Particularly in the northeast, people cross borders daily for work and school. In a time of significant change in public health, we have benefited from the enhanced collaborations between our jurisdictions. We are confident that we will preserve and protect core public health principles and services as we navigate current changes together.”

Maine CDC Director, Dr. Puthiery Va said, “The people of Maine are known for their resilience, neighborly support, and a collaborative approach to solving community challenges. This spirit is evident in the Northeast Public Health Collaborative, which serves as an incubator for solutions in public health. By working together, we can build more adaptable, sustainable, and resilient public health framework for the region.”

Massachusetts Commissioner of Public Health Robbie Goldstein, M.D., Ph.D., said, “When our states speak in concert, our voice carries farther, and our impact deepens. Those who work in public health are entrusted with a profound responsibility – a promise – to protect the health and safety of those in our states, to advance equity, and to ground every decision in data and evidence. Strong public health must stand high above ideology. Our region understands this, and we are moving forward, resolute, united, and guided by science.”

New Jersey Acting Health Commissioner Jeff Brown said, “The interconnectedness of our populations and shared health challenges across the Northeast make this Collaborative a natural synergy and extension of our longstanding partnerships with peer health agencies to support the health of the people of New Jersey. Public health requires regular sharing of information, ideas, and best practices across jurisdictions and state lines. Whether it’s responding to a pandemic or an outbreak or preparing for a large-scale event such as the upcoming FIFA World Cup, with three host cities in the Northeast, working together helps keep our residents safe and healthy. We look forward to continuing to do so with our colleagues in the Collaborative.”

New York State Health Commissioner Dr. James McDonald, M.D., M.P.H., said, “Everyone benefits when we work together. I am excited about this collaborative; we all share the same goal of achieving health and well-being for our people. New York is proud to be part of the Northeast Public Health Collaborative. By working together, we are creating a more adaptable, sustainable and resilient public health system for our state and the region.”

Pennsylvania Department of Health Secretary Dr. Debra Bogen said, “Protecting public health has always been a collaborative effort. Continuing to work with public health experts in other states allows the exchange of best practices, pursuit of efficiencies, and opportunities for collaboration to better meet the needs of Pennsylvanians.”

Rhode Island Department of Health Director Jerry Larkin, M.D., said, “Collaboration is the core of public health. We look forward to continuing to work with the Northeast Public Health Collaborative to improve information sharing, coordinate on public health initiatives, and develop policy that is grounded in science and data. This partnership will advance our work to prevent disease and promote the health and safety of the people in every community in Rhode Island.”

New York City Acting Health Commissioner Dr. Michelle Morse said, "As the oldest and largest local health department in the nation, the New York City Health Department is proud to be a member of the Northeast Public Health Collaborative. We must always protect our public health infrastructure, reject misinformation, and maintain trust in science. The collaborative is working together to rebuild public trust, and provide factual information, so people can make informed decisions about their health, and continue our critical work to address health inequities.”

While the Northeast Public Health Collaborative members share common public health goals and objectives, they recognize that each state and city is independent with their own diverse populations and unique sets of laws, regulations and histories. Members may choose to participate in or adapt those specific initiatives consistent with their particular needs, values, objectives, and statutory or regulatory requirements.

They issued their own COVID vaccination recommendations:

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West Coast did the same:


What you need to know: In the vacuum left by the Trump Administration’s chaos and politicization of science, the West Coast Health Alliance today issued unified, science-based vaccine recommendations ahead of the winter virus season. Governor Gavin Newsom also signed AB 144, empowering California to chart its own path and reject corrupted federal guidelines.
SACRAMENTO – Today, Governor Gavin Newsom of California, Governor Tina Kotek of Oregon, Governor Bob Ferguson of Washington, and Governor Josh Green of Hawaii announced coordinated winter virus vaccination recommendations through the West Coast Health Alliance (WCHA). These recommendations include the 2025–26 COVID-19, influenza, and RSV vaccines.

In addition, Governor Newsom signed AB 144, authorizing California to base future immunization guidance on credible, independent medical organizations rather than the CDC’s increasingly politicized Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices.


“Our states are united in putting science, safety, and transparency first — and in protecting families with clear, credible vaccine guidance. The West Coast Health Alliance stands united in protecting public health and always putting safety before politics.”​

Joint statement from Governors Newsom, Kotek, Ferguson, and Green
Vaccination is safe, effective, and the best protection available against respiratory viruses like COVID-19, influenza, and RSV. Seasonal vaccination is also a critical public health tool to reduce serious illness, community transmission, and strain on hospitals.

“We want the people who live and work in our states to know that there is a strong public health, healthcare & scientific community that will continue to stand together to provide and use the data and evidence needed for you to make healthy choices, and we are here to protect our communities.” – Dr. Erica Pan, Director of the California Department of Public Health

“Vaccines remain a critical tool to prevent severe illness and death. In a void of federal leadership, our four states are stepping forward to provide clear, consistent recommendations our communities can trust. Our commitment is to ensure that our shared guidance is rooted in science and that vaccines people want and need are accessible to all. Public health depends on clarity, equity, and transparency—and that is what we’re delivering today.” – Dr. Sejal Hathi, MD, MBA, Director, Oregon Health Authority

“Vaccines protect more than just ourselves — they help safeguard our families, neighbors, and communities. By staying up to date, Washingtonians can reduce the spread of illness and keep our state strong this season. The Alliance’s recommendations are rooted in science, giving our communities confidence in the guidance we provide.” – Washington State Secretary of Health Dennis Worsham

“The effectiveness of public health institutions depends on the public’s trust. We understand our responsibility to earn that trust by helping people protect themselves, their families and their community. These recommendations represent a collaborative effort, done with humility and based on science, to meet our responsibilities to our communities and the public at large.” – Kenneth S. Fink, MD, MGA, MPH, Director, Hawaiʻi Department of Health

Truth under assault​

In recent weeks, Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. has aggressively weaponized the CDC by purging its vaccine advisory committee, firing all 17 members and replacing them with cherry-picked appointees who include vaccine skeptics. He’s forced out the CDC director, triggered high-level and career-staff resignations, and scheduled expedited meetings where this reshaped panel will vote on critical recommendations that guide national vaccine policy and insurance coverage. Public health leaders warn these moves dismantle independent, science-based oversight and inject politics into decisions that protect Americans’ health — undermining the CDC’s credibility at a moment when trust and clarity are most needed.

States stepping in​

Alliance states are fighting back against the Trump administration’s assault on science — sharing a commitment to ensuring that health recommendations are guided by safety, efficacy, transparency, access, and trust. To develop these recommendations, Health Officers, who are all medical doctors, and subject matter experts from each of the WCHA states reviewed guidelines from credible national medical organizations, including the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG), and the American Academy of Family Physicians (AAFP). Our alliance believes that all clinically recommended vaccinations should be accessible to the people of our states.

The WCHA will continue to build its structure, evaluate new evidence and recommendations as they become available, and determine how to ensure the review process is transparent. WCHA is committed to sharing any updated assessments with our communities.

To learn more about these updated recommendations, click here.

This may seem like this violates the Constitution:

  • Section 10​

    • Clause 3 Acts Requiring Consent of Congress
    • No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

However it doesn't because the legal definition of a compact is:

In legal terms, a compact is a formal, binding agreement between two or more sovereign entities, such as states or foreign nations, that establishes a legal relationship and creates enforceable obligations and rights for the parties involved. These agreements, often in the form of statutes enacted by the parties' legislatures, address common problems or create a shared agenda and are considered akin to both contracts and statutes. If approved by the U.S. Congress, a compact becomes part of the law of the United States with the force of federal law.

The Northeast Public Health Collaborative is voluntary and the West Coast Health alliance is likely also voluntary. If it's not enforceable legally, it's not a compact and is legal.

Still a bad sign.
 
My swing-right moment was the Charlie Hebdo shooting. Partially because I'm a huge fan of French comics and took it personally, but especially because of passive-aggressive white people contriving excuses for why shooting 70-80 year olds drawing cartoons was ackthsually totally legit and justified.

It's petty as fuck, but you have no idea how cathartic it is finally seeing these same people eat the slightest crumb of Hambly diarhrea for doing the same shit a decade on.
Honestly, all the muslim being muslim and blacks being blacks moments could be swept away in the public zeigeist, but lefties will just not let ANYTHING go and have to so extensively, loudly, and violently defend retardation that the left's response to a thing happening with a minority or the correct religion is more eye opening than the thing itself.

I know some people are still against the cancel culture and potential expansion, but fuck it. Either we utilize all the tools available to us, legally, now and force the rest of the government to not use them again in fear of all their commie pawns getting BTFO'd, or we will ultimately be the ones targeted down the line when the left tries to regain power. It's not just petty, but it's also strategically sound. We HAVE to use the weapons they made in order to make an electronic and speech-variant of "an armed society is a polite society" viable.
 
Hey, let’s be fair. Christianity = white, Islam = brown. It would be le heckin racism to speak poorly of such a diverse and accepting religion.
It always comes back to race. The white man makes a white nation he’s Hitler And a Nazi. The black man makes a black nation, it’s empowering and brave.
 
At least name names if you're gonna turn this into a gimmick of yours.
You're no fun at all, you know that?
It was a good time tbh, helped get my mind off it all really. never seen a longer list of people getting banned either, lol.
You're welcome! I missed agreeing with you on random topics and tag-teaming retards who disagree. We make a good team sometimes.
 
We HAVE to use the weapons they made in order to make an electronic and speech-variant of "an armed society is a polite society" viable.
"but if the superhero kills the bad guy, that makes him bad, hehe checkmate chuds"

At the end of the day, we are on the right side of history trying to make a society that functions where people can thrive, advance and go to space. The other side has become the party of illegals, crime, geriatrics, terrorists, foreign nationals, and trannies. They would rather sit around and deconstruct the racism of astronomy instead of building rockets. They are not what a productive society needs nor would society lose anything of value if they or their opinions disappeared.

If the left wins, your kids get diddled and groomed into tranny discord dens and have teachers for sexual predators in classrooms using neopronouns without ever telling you. If you say anything bad you get debanked and cut off from social media. Calling someone a nigger 10 years online is not the same as loosing a contract for gravedancing over a conservative normie who liked to yap and debate on college campus'. If you don't use their own tools against them, your life will become miserable. You will live in a pod and have nothing.
 
You're no fun at all, you know that?
I'm tons of fun. Loads of people are saying it, believe me. Nobody is more fun than me.
I just think you should get the damned slapfight going if you've got a bone to pick with someone. We're in the Autistic Thunderdome, and you're just sitting in the bleachers making vague allusions to all the people who you've "unmasked". Call them out directly and give us a show.
 
being assassinated in the middle of a public appearance.
You are thinking too narrowly. Think broader. When Pelosi's husband got attacked by a crazy dude with a hammer, there was definitely a level of glibness from the right, including from the Late C Kirk. When Democrat Senator John Hoffman and Rep Meliisa Hortman were shot, there was also a large degree of ambivalence at best, gloating at worst. It really all boils down to what your personal values are, and what your algorithm feeds you about the other side. If you aren't a liberal, you probably aren't getting news stories about bad things republicans do, You're getting storing about lefty retard tranny commies addicted to abortions and black tar heroin. By that same token, a liberal isn't learning about the latest out of touch moment from their party, they are getting flooded with stories about conservatives being malevolent shit eating fascists addicted to fag drags and removing human rights from minorities.

So yeah, you probably haven't seen much conservatives being assholes online, but that's probably because you are a) not looking for it, b) agree with them that the other side is cartoonish bad, or c) the news that is fed to you has not shown you the information on purpose. This also applies to people on the left, and is why the divide is growing larger and larger while only benefiting "news" grifters, who profit off our attention and fears. Politics on a whole has become a mean, ugly, and stupid place, and I do not see the genie going back into the bottle anytime soon.
 
I'm tons of fun. Loads of people are saying it, believe me. Nobody is more fun than me.
I just think you should get the damned slapfight going if you've got a bone to pick with someone. We're in the Autistic Thunderdome, and you're just sitting in the bleachers making vague allusions to all the people who you've "unmasked". Call them out directly and give us a show.
I'm not a Belgian TERF or a wrestling icon, I can't infight with impunity.
 
Kashapp wants to repeal Section 230

Charlie Kirk assassination reignites debate over Section 230 protections for social media companies​

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The assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk last week has reignited the political debate over reforming a federal law that shields social media companies from liability over the content they post.
Videos of Kirk's assassination spread rapidly across social media following the shooting on the campus of Utah Valley University that took the 31-year-old Turning Point USA founder's life last week. That created an immense challenge for social media platforms to remove the video or implement content warnings or age gating to protect users from being exposed to it in their feeds.
The circulation of Kirk's assassination video on social media prompted renewed calls from lawmakers to address a federal law known as Section 230 that provides liability protections for social media platforms.
"Section 230 needs to be repealed. If you're mad at social media companies that radicalize our nation, you should be mad," Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press." "I have a bill that will allow you to sue these people. They're immune from lawsuits."
Section 230 of the Communications Act was enacted as part of the Communications Decency Act in 1996 and provides immunity for online services for content published by third-party users on their platforms.
It includes provisions that protect service providers from being liable for content posted by third-party users, as well as protection from liability for the voluntary good faith removal of third-party content the operator finds objectionable – whether it's constitutionally protected.
"At the end of the day, I think Section 230 does a couple of things," Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Commissioner Brendan Carr said during an appearance at the Politico AI & Tech Summit on Tuesday. "Some things it does very well. Some things there's a lot more questions about it."
He noted that there are two main provisions of Section 230 and explained that C-1 "says if you leave someone else's speech up, you're not liable for that content if it happens to be libelous or tortious in any way. I think that's generally a good provision. It's what I call a 'pro-speech' provision. It encourages people to post and express themselves."
"On the other hand, you have this provision C-2 that's been read by the courts as giving broad immunity to all sorts of content moderation and censorship. And I think that's where, over the years, we saw a lot of abuses," Carr said.
"We saw individual Americans participating in a digital town square that were getting censored purely for protected First Amendment speech for diversity of viewpoints on religious or medical issues."
The FCC chair said he's waiting to see how social media companies move forward with changes to moderation policies that are already underway but signaled the debate over Section 230 is likely to continue.
"I think the debate around Section 230 is still live, but I think, given the changes that we're seeing on social media, I think right now, for my part, I'm in more of a trust but verify posture," Carr said.
During a hearing on Tuesday, Graham asked FBI Director Kash Patel if he supports sunsetting Section 230 to increase the liability for companies whose platforms are used to disseminate content related to the sexual exploitation of children.
"I'm all in, I have been all in, and I'm happy to work with Congress to do so," Patel said.

Bipartisan Push in Congress to Weaken Section 230, Expand Online Surveillance, and Increase Platform Liability​

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During this week’s testimony before both chambers of Congress, FBI Director Kash Patel and several lawmakers made a concerted push to weaken protections for online platforms, advance surveillance partnerships, and promote government intervention in digital speech spaces.
The hearings revealed a rare bipartisan consensus around dismantling Section 230 and tightening control over how people interact and communicate online.
In the Senate, Republican Senator Lindsey Graham opened his questioning by linking online platforms to the assassination of Charlie Kirk, then repeatedly pressed Patel on whether the internet was a breeding ground for radicalization and crime.
Throughout their exchange, Graham blurred the lines between criminal behavior, such as grooming or inciting violence, and broad categories like bullying.
“Is there any law that can shut down one of these sites? For bullying children or allowing sexual predators on the site,” Graham asked.
He repeatedly implied that websites hosting objectionable content should be held legally responsible, asking, “Would you advocate a sunsetting of Section 230 to bring more liability to the companies who send this stuff out?”
Patel replied, “I’ve advocated for that for years.”
Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act is a legal provision that protects online platforms from being held liable for content posted by their users.
It allows websites, forums, and social media services to host a wide range of speech without being treated as the publisher of that content. If Section 230 were repealed or weakened, platforms would face significant legal risk for everything users say or share.
This could push companies to aggressively censor user content to avoid lawsuits, leading to broader suppression of speech, fewer places for open dialogue, and less room for dissenting or controversial viewpoints online.
When Graham demanded action against platforms that allow bullying or grooming, Patel suggested that platforms cannot be sued under current law, adding that the explosion of AI-generated abusive material had worsened the problem.
Note that Section 230 does not give platforms immunity from federal criminal law. If a website is knowingly hosting or involved in illegal content, such as child exploitation, terrorism, or sex trafficking, it can already be held criminally liable under existing statutes.
Patel called the situation a “public health hazard” and stated, “I think not only are some of these sites designed to be addictive, unfortunately, the reality is some of these sites are designed to generate income, and many people are generating income based on this illegal trade.”
The hearing offered no engagement with the consequences of gutting Section 230. Instead, there was a clear push to strip away those protections in the name of safety.
Senator Amy Klobuchar, a Democrat, echoed that sentiment. “For years I have supported repealing Section 230,” she said, arguing that the law is outdated and was crafted for a different era.
While she prefaced her comments by claiming to oppose censorship, her solution was the same as Graham’s: eliminate legal protections for platforms to create a “better environment online.”
Klobuchar veered into broader political territory, citing a wave of threats and violence targeting lawmakers.
She asked Patel to commit to conveying her concerns to the White House and emphasized a need to “move forward” on both speech laws and gun control measures.
Republican Senator Marsha Blackburn seized the opportunity to promote the Kids Online Safety Act (KOSA).
KOSA is a proposed law that presents itself as a measure to protect children but would fundamentally alter the structure of the internet by encouraging surveillance, forced identity verification, and government-influenced content moderation.
While the bill mandates that platforms shield minors from content deemed harmful, such as material linked to mental health concerns, it also gives the Federal Trade Commission the authority to penalize companies over subjective definitions of what constitutes harm.
KOSA directs federal agencies to develop age verification systems at the device or operating system level, setting the stage for a national digital ID regime that would eliminate online anonymity and expose users to deeper tracking and data collection.
Despite revisions and corporate endorsements, the bill continues to raise alarms among civil liberties advocates who warn it would pressure platforms to over-censor, chilling free speech under the pretense of child safety.
Blackburn described platforms like Discord as enablers of predation, referencing the Kirk assassination, and asked Patel what Congress could do to give the FBI more power.
Patel responded with a call for financial crackdowns and more legal obligations for tech companies, stating, “Nobody’s being held accountable. They’re making money and our youth is dying.”
During his exchange with Rep. Brandon Gill, Patel made one of the most interesting comments of the hearing.
Patel called for expanding surveillance partnerships between the government and private tech companies, including gaming and social media platforms.
“There is no way to triage the amount of information generated on these sites by the FBI alone,” Patel said.
He advocated renewing a law that allows companies to report users to the FBI without fear of liability, framing this corporate-government alliance as essential to national security.
This approach would effectively deputize tech companies as enforcers. No concern was raised about how such partnerships could be abused to monitor lawful political activity or dissent.
Despite the repeated invocation of safety and child protection, the hearings presented little evidence that any of the proposed changes would meaningfully prevent crime.
Instead, lawmakers from both parties appeared eager to empower both the FBI and online platforms to act as gatekeepers of acceptable discourse, with Patel affirming at every turn that the Bureau would welcome such powers.
The push to overhaul Section 230, pass KOSA, and institutionalize surveillance under the banner of public-private “partnership” may signal a dangerous change in how speech is treated online.
Rather than protect fundamental rights, lawmakers are pushing to dissolve long-standing legal safeguards in pursuit of control over what people are allowed to say, and where they’re allowed to say it.

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There was an independent black nation called the Kingdom of Dahomey that did pretty well. They sold slaves to the Europeans and practiced human sacrifice.
The Songhai Empire was a 'black nation', however it was OVERWHELMING funded by the slave trade. Once the British put the kibosh on the slave trade, the Songhai fell apart in like a generation or two.
 
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(((the free press))) is whining about jimmy kimmel being fired.

"She fucks her brother! Thank you for your attention to this matter"
guys the best
Our most fundamental values, our most sacred holiest democracy, relies on Jimmy Kimmel. If you are not standing up NOW you are never standing up for the revolution.
THANK you Hasanabi (brown person you can tell by the name) for standing UP For FREE speech.
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This is a really chill cool graffiti Banksky-esque tweet you can tell he gets cool post=modern art because it's not capslock rage like Fox News boomers do it, it's Càps Lock Ragé, which is different to sperg about like that guy who cared about pronouns in Dragongame 3.
TEPID REMARKS. SO ANNOYING AND SO MUCH MORE! GET IN NOW!!! @mytwitchstream
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