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Riley and Milo Stewart is one I remember. Milo is probably connected to Kat, as well.
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Riley and Milo Stewart is one I remember. Milo is probably connected to Kat, as well.
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And I'll probably end up editing this beast as time goes on, too. Because their sperging changes landscapes every time.
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Direct connections to Nora Reed include:
-David Gallant (also connected to the non-Rat King lolcow Zoe Quinn, and everyone below as well)
-Mark Boyd
-Alex Leal
-Jake "Secret Gamer Girl" Alley (Who is connected to Katherine Cross and Feminist Frequency)
I'm not sure where you'd put these guys, probably in the spaces next to or below Bex Gerber and Ana Mardol
-David Gallant (also connected to the non-Rat King lolcow Zoe Quinn, and everyone below as well)
-Mark Boyd
-Alex Leal
-Jake "Secret Gamer Girl" Alley (Who is connected to Katherine Cross and Feminist Frequency)
I'm not sure where you'd put these guys, probably in the spaces next to or below Bex Gerber and Ana Mardol
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Sabine gets around too in these circles from what I remember? Zinnia Jones?
I remember the good old days when Chloe Sagal would be included but she REEEEE-d herself into oblivion. Rani pops up every so often in crossovers too.
Kiva Bay tweets Zinnia and Becca, possibly others, been a while since I read her thread.
Sorry if they're already included, my brain can only handle minimal autism on a lazy Sunday morning.
I remember the good old days when Chloe Sagal would be included but she REEEEE-d herself into oblivion. Rani pops up every so often in crossovers too.
Kiva Bay tweets Zinnia and Becca, possibly others, been a while since I read her thread.
Sorry if they're already included, my brain can only handle minimal autism on a lazy Sunday morning.
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Here's what I have to show. I'll add in the Pless and Kat Blaque connections later, this took way too much time as it is lol.
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This will all end in tears, I just know it.
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Well, it certainly looks like a rat king. It'll probably look like a peyote-fueled spiderweb by the time you're done.
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Zoe Quinn is not the reason the rat king exists. We just decided to look into phils friends list. This ain't a gamergate thing as much as @Jaimas wants it to be
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Wasn't Nora Reed the center before we found out Richard Jones had invested into this particular sect of autism? I get the Phil thing but it's kind of impossible to remove gamergate from it considering how overbearing it's been among the entire rat king.
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We literally dug into his friends list to see what his reaction would be if we highlighted his friends (he didn't care) we would then notice they all shared the same network of friends. There is no gamergate element in this and shoving it in there is ruining the original intent of creating the rat king forum.
Do you see Zoe Quinn in this sub forum? No. Because she is not part of this. She just made a video game that upset wizards and they started the most autistic movement on the internet
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Fair enough. I'm not super well versed in Phil but I know a bit about the gamergate cows and I probably projected that. My apologies.
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It's cool. I just remember when we were starting this out and I'd be happy to answer questions.
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I do have to agree. Zoe pretty much used whatever she could to stay relevant. Including her current "enby" stunt. She's as far removed from the mess because of how badly she burned everyone with the CON mess.
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I sort of thought you had to be a tranny to be part of the rat king. That would remove Zoe, despite her protestations to the contrary, and Randi Lee as well.
Fire should probably be added, assuming he has enough connections.
Fire should probably be added, assuming he has enough connections.
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The definition on the forum is "LGBTQRSTUV..." related folks. Randi got away from them, so she's out. And Zoe is out because she was honestly never in. She just used them as a PA and ran after the CON fallout.
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Immense work @WeaponsGradeAutism. I really hope you can keep your sanity.
And "occupation: none" is everywhere. What a surprise.
And "occupation: none" is everywhere. What a surprise.
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Only exceptions are Bex, Kat Blaque, Milo Stewart and others that are lolcow forum featured. They're tied in, but as we see from Bex, Riley and Kat... They're exceptionally autistic in and out of the Rat King
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The huge burst of @chimpburgers OPs around the time of our Norasphere obsession have lots of good details on many of these assclowns, including dimmer lights and people now merged into stuff like the Rat King general.
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I've actually said quite a few times, and in multiple threads at this point that you're absolutely correct, and Quinn isn't part of the Rat Kings.
I'm not entirely sure why you're convinced I still think otherwise.
For the benefit of everyone else in the thread, I'm going to elaborate further on this one. Because it's kind of fucking important. There's a reason that I thought Quinn was part of it, and it had less to do with her own behavior and far more due to the sheer volume of people covered by the Rat King subforum who were involved in CON, either directly or indirectly - everyone from Laurelai Bailey to SfTheWolf.
Anyone who sees how often the same people fucking people pop up in the same sub-groups could come to the very same misguided conclusion I had at the time - which is that there was a connection between the two.
Fact is, there really isn't.
The insane trannies associated with CON are more of a "pre-existing condition" thing; they were what we now call Rat Kings before GG ever happened, and they've persisted long after GG ended. CON, to put it simply, isn't to blame for these idiots, who saw a new avenue to push their shit and rushed for it. GG was a very tempting target for the Rats, since it gave them a target they could attack pretty much consequence free and cynically use to their own game. It coincided with CON's goals at the time, but it sure as shit isn't responsible for them. Pretty much all the Rat Kings we cover are on the GG opposition side, but this is mostly due to trying to exploit it for asspats.
Tellingly, CON kicked the insane tranny branch of the group out when it outlived its usefulness, which included some of the group's biggest die-hards and led to a lot of the expats winding up in the Norasphere. They wanted nothing to fucking do with them beyond seeing them as an ally of convenience at the moment.
The hallmark of the Rat Kings has always been involvement with utilizing the LGBT movement cynically for their own gain, rather than anything else. Because of this, one cannot consider Quinn part of the Rat Kings, nor can, frankly, a lot of CON be considered them. Generally I consider being an insane tranny to be the subdivision by which they start to break down, because the odds are good that if they are, you're going to see a tangible connection to the likes of Laurelai and friends.
For an easy chart related to CON and Rat Kings, using the above rule of thumb, check below the spoiler tag:
Not Rat Kings:
* Zoe Quinn
* Alex Lifschitz
* Margaret Pless
* Peter Coffin
* Dan Olson
* Rob Marmolejo
* Israel Galvez
* Chris Kluwe
* Ian Miles Cheong
* Arthur Chu
* Matt Myers
* Randi Harper
* Brianna Wu
* Dina Abou Karam
These are not Rat Kings. Lolcows, certainly, wildly entertaining ones in the case of several, but not Rat Kings.
Rat Kings:
* SF the Wolf
* Laurelai Bailey
* Jake Alley
* Mark Boyd
* Chloe Sagal
These ones are all hallmarked by the confusing spidernest of personal connections and attempts to cynically use the LGBT community for their own game that we commonly associate with the Rat Kings. All are insane trannies as well, and most of them have a long and detailed history of terrible behavior. They also show up on the same blocklists, which I find very funny.
Grey Area:
* Katherine Cross
* Sarah Nyberg
* David Gallant
These three are unique in that their placement within the Rat King is.... Questionable. Cross is an insane tranny and constantly pops up in LGBT circles, even outside of CON, but she's done at least a marginally good job of keeping a distance from Laurelai-tier idiocy. Nyberg is a tranny-in-name-only, but she appears in fucking every single Rat King sub-group from the Norasphere to TLL like an Autistic case of Chickenpox, and she has some big ties to various other rats, making her placement questionable. David Gallant is not an insane tranny either, but is wrist-deep in the Norasphere and due to the sheer number of his responses and connection to other Rats is a sight to behold.
* Zoe Quinn
* Alex Lifschitz
* Margaret Pless
* Peter Coffin
* Dan Olson
* Rob Marmolejo
* Israel Galvez
* Chris Kluwe
* Ian Miles Cheong
* Arthur Chu
* Matt Myers
* Randi Harper
* Brianna Wu
* Dina Abou Karam
These are not Rat Kings. Lolcows, certainly, wildly entertaining ones in the case of several, but not Rat Kings.
Rat Kings:
* SF the Wolf
* Laurelai Bailey
* Jake Alley
* Mark Boyd
* Chloe Sagal
These ones are all hallmarked by the confusing spidernest of personal connections and attempts to cynically use the LGBT community for their own game that we commonly associate with the Rat Kings. All are insane trannies as well, and most of them have a long and detailed history of terrible behavior. They also show up on the same blocklists, which I find very funny.
Grey Area:
* Katherine Cross
* Sarah Nyberg
* David Gallant
These three are unique in that their placement within the Rat King is.... Questionable. Cross is an insane tranny and constantly pops up in LGBT circles, even outside of CON, but she's done at least a marginally good job of keeping a distance from Laurelai-tier idiocy. Nyberg is a tranny-in-name-only, but she appears in fucking every single Rat King sub-group from the Norasphere to TLL like an Autistic case of Chickenpox, and she has some big ties to various other rats, making her placement questionable. David Gallant is not an insane tranny either, but is wrist-deep in the Norasphere and due to the sheer number of his responses and connection to other Rats is a sight to behold.
There's actually a discussion to be had on whether Nora's truly part of the Rat King or not. A lot of people would argue no, since she's not technically LGBT (no matter how much she claims to be), and her involvement in many other Rat King-related affairs seems to be fringe at best, but I'd make the argument that between her patreon backings (she's actually surprisingly more successful than many other actual insane trannies), constant ineffectual whinging, acting as a haven of sorts for other Rat King elements, and maintaining ties to so many others, she just slides up over the bar, but that's just my two cents.
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I disagree on Peter Coffin and Izzy Galvez. Both Rat Kings whether or not they're trannies. That's never been the defining feature. Similarly, David S. Gallant is definitely a low-tier Rat King. I'd argue Kengle is approaching Rat King status, but they seem to be repelling his advances, so maybe not.
Rat Kinging is a matter of function, and people too important individually really aren't Rat King members. Hence, no Zoe Quinn or John Flynt.
I think the question is would you give a shit about these people if not for their bizarre social connections? If the answer is no, they are probably only significant because of Rat King membership.
Not that it really matters, since it's just an autistic social construct we basically made up.