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I’m sure it’s been discussed before, but can someone give me a psychological theory as to why redditors are so snarky and petty? Even innocuous comments or genuine questions is met with snark. Have they conditioned themselves to think that’s normal? Are they all just miserable?
 
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Sailor Kim Jong Moon said:
I’m sure it’s been discussed before, but can someone give me a psychological theory as to why redditors are so snarky and petty? Even innocuous comments or genuine questions is met with snark. Have they conditioned themselves to think that’s normal? Are they all just miserable?
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Vulnerable type of narcissism.

Unlike grandiose narcissists the vulnerable types are more covert in their seek of approval, meaning they are always passive-aggressive faggots.
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As the name suggests, a vulnerable narcissist is someone who presents with traits of both narcissism and vulnerability. Like all narcissists, these individuals have an inflated sense of self-importance and a deep need for admiration, yet they also display feelings of inadequacy, low self-esteem, and an exaggerated need for validation.


In line with the Five Factor Model of Personality, the vulnerable narcissist’s core personality traits are low agreeableness (antagonism), low extraversion (introversion), and high neuroticism (emotional instability).


Antagonism is characterized by anger, hostility, opposition, and resistance towards others.


Neuroticism relates to one’s emotional instability and how prone someone is to experiencing negative emotions such as anxiety, depression, or irritability. Vulnerable narcissists tend to have low emotional stability and high levels of anxiety, depression, and irritability.


Because they are introverts, vulnerable narcissists often present as shy and reclusive. But at their core, they are self-centered, entitled, and manipulative.


While they may not overtly display their sense of superiority, they still fantasize about power and fame.


Unlike the more overtly grandiose narcissist, the vulnerable narcissist is fragile and self-doubting. They are hypersensitive to criticism and the feedback they receive from others, reacting with defensiveness or withdrawal when they are slighted.


Because they are so preoccupied with maintaining a positive self-image and so focused on their own needs and desires, vulnerable narcissists tend to suffer from poor mental health and social isolation.
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Despite craving attention and admiration from others, vulnerable narcissists tend to distrust and avoid other people because they are introverted individuals who are deeply insecure and hypersensitive to perceived rejection. They tend to go to great lengths to avoid situations where they could be confronted or challenged.
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The Vulnerability of the Vulnerable Narcissist​


The vulnerability of vulnerable narcissists lies in their fragile ego, hypersensitivity, and underlying sense of inadequacy. This vulnerability sets them apart from the more overtly grandiose and assertive narcissistic subtype.


Vulnerable narcissists rely heavily on external validation and approval to maintain a positive self-image. Because of their fragile sense of self and deep rooted fear of rejection, vulnerable narcissists are emotionally unstable individuals.


When faced with adversity or negative feedback, they experience significant shame and emotional turmoil. Their antagonistic traits combined with this shame and anger often leads to frequent mood swings, high levels of aggression, and abusive tendencies.


They can spend long periods of time ruminating about who wronged them and how they can seek revenge. Vulnerable narcissists typically experience more conflict around their entitled needs and expectations than grandiose narcissists.


When their entitled expectations are not met, they may react with defensiveness, withdrawal, or even hostile outbursts.


They may become excessively preoccupied with gaining acceptance and approval from others, which can lead to a fear of intimacy and difficulties in forming healthy relationships.
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LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] said:
Unlike grandiose narcissists the vulnerable types are more covert in their seek of approval, meaning they are always passive-aggressive faggots.
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Do you think Reddit attracts these types of is their something in the design of Reddit itself that encourages this behavior? I was thinking the upvote system or the moderation might instill these behaviors in these people. Or maybe it attracts enough narcissists to extend to the rest of the site like a social contagion
 
Sailor Kim Jong Moon said:
I’m sure it’s been discussed before, but can someone give me a psychological theory as to why redditors are so snarky and petty? Even innocuous comments or genuine questions is met with snark. Have they conditioned themselves to think that’s normal? Are they all just miserable?
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e.g. spiteful mutant theory
 
Sailor Kim Jong Moon said:
Do you think Reddit attracts these types of is their something in the design of Reddit itself that encourages this behavior? I was thinking the upvote system or the moderation might instill these behaviors in these people. Or maybe it attracts enough narcissists to extend to the rest of the site like a social contagion
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All social media encourages narcissim to some degree but like you said the karma system and reddit's moderation make it a worse echo chamber than any other site. You can be a snarky asshole to people in 100 threads a day and collect karma but if someone confronts you and calls you a faggot in response they'd be banned in an instant. Every prick with a chip on their shoulder feels insulated there.
 
Sailor Kim Jong Moon said:
I’m sure it’s been discussed before, but can someone give me a psychological theory as to why redditors are so snarky and petty? Even innocuous comments or genuine questions is met with snark. Have they conditioned themselves to think that’s normal? Are they all just miserable?
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I blame Tumblr for the popularization and spread of this sort of behavior across the internet.
 
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I enjoy the entertainment of vegan reddits, many of them just can't hate their misanthropy and narcissisim.

goodvibesmostly98- vegan 6+ years 52 points 8 hours ago*
Since people say stuff like that, it’s very important to communicate clearly and calmly to keep the focus on the victims, the animals.
It doesn’t matter why they say that, it just means we need to reevaluate what we’re saying to get the point across better.
It’s not about just saying what emotionally feels good. We don’t want to take away focus from the victims and redirect it to our tone.

[–]clown_utopia- veganarchist 2 points 7 hours ago
What you said is both why I think this is necessary and also reflects the problem. Yes, it can be effective to stay humble and be palatable and introduce animal ethics in a safe, friendly, curiosity-inducing way--- but I still don't think it's inappropriate to defend these billions of victims with as much urgency and immediacy as the situation demands. I even feel that it is a disservice to the extremeness of the fascism of human supremacy's sterilization of all nonhuman nature to only ever see animal advocacy as something to do with sad music or fluffy bunny vids---- nature is massive and must be appreciated and respected on its own terms. Tone policing erases the urgency of the sixth mass extinction, and catastrophic climate change, that is a direct result of human supremacy driving this carnism.

just_a_curious_fella -1 points 3 hours ago
Nature is very cruel & chaotic

wordytalks 2 points 8 hours ago
Hey anarchist to anarchist. I’ll be perfectly honest. If we’re going this from a criticism perspective, I don’t see there being legislative bias against vegans. It’s mostly cultural hate.
But I will be 100 with you. Vegans are often some of the most condescending people on the planet. Is it all vegans? No. But the vocal ones who go about it end up being one of the most annoying and irresponsible advocates. Hell, look at the vegan liberation groups who go about releasing factory animals. They fucked the entire local ecosphere for literally decades.
There’s also the issue of practicality. Implementing a worldwide vegan diet would realistically be a bigger drain on agriculture than creating a greater balance between plant and meat production.


[–]best-unaccompanied- vegan 14 points 7 hours ago
Implementing a worldwide vegan diet would realistically be a bigger drain on agriculture than creating a greater balance between plant and meat production.
I don't see how that could be the case, considering that most crops are grown to feed livestock and not people.


[–]wordytalks -8 points 7 hours ago
Implementation of vegan crops to replace protein are significantly more water-intensive which puts higher risks on drought in the available area and would require a much higher number of crops than we use now.


[–]VeganSandwich61- vegan 5 points 6 hours ago*
Regarding water:
The U.S. agri-food system is a driver of climate change and other impacts. In order to achieve environmental targets that limit global mean temperature rise ≤2 °C, a shift in American dietary patterns is critical. The purpose of this study was twofold: (1) to determine the environmental impact (i.e., land use, water use, and GHG emissions) related to consumption of five U.S. dietary patterns (i.e., Current U.S., the Healthy U.S., Mediterranean, Healthy Vegetarian, and Vegan), and (2) to determine the specific impact of each food group in each dietary pattern on the three environmental indicators. This study utilized existing datasets to synthesize information related to the study's environmental indicators and food production and connected these data to the current U.S. diet and the USDA-defined diets. Results indicate that the three omnivore diets contributed the greatest to GHG emissions, land use and water use. The Vegan diet scored the lowest across all indicators, although the water required for plant-based protein nearly offset other water gains. For the omnivore diets, red meat and dairy milk contributed the most to each environmental indicator. By considering sustainability as well as health outcomes in their recommendations in the Dietary Guidelines, the USDA can have a critical role in shifting diets necessary to alter climate change trends.
Further, you can see here that animal products tend to be worse than plant based foods, and while some plant based foods do use lots of water, many have very low levels of use.
Further, we would use less crops on a vegan diet. This is due to feed conversion ratios, to produce 1kg of meat takes, on average 2.8 kg of human-edible feed for ruminants and 3.2 for monogastrics. This paper found that:
plant-based replacements for each of the major animal categories in the United States (beef, pork, dairy, poultry, and eggs) can produce twofold to 20-fold more nutritionally similar food per unit cropland. Replacing all animal-based items with plant-based replacement diets can add enough food to feed 350 million additional people, more than the expected benefits of eliminating all supply chain food loss.
So animal agriculture is very inefficient vs plant agriculture, and plant based diets on average use slightly less water and are better on basically every environmental metric.


[–]wordytalks -2 points 6 hours ago
I mean I look at this and all it says to me right now our agriculture system is fucked. But also, this doesn’t compare sustainable approaches for either. Vegans take up the least right now because they aren’t dominant and comparing our current food system for “omnivores” is highly suspect.

wordytalks 2 points 6 hours ago
Do you understand what an invasive species is? Or are you too stupid to understand that?
Next you're gonna compare factory farming to the Holocaust.


[–]Mantagran 2 points 6 hours ago
I do.


[–]wordytalks 1 point 6 hours ago
I bet you're real popular with other humans rights advocates.


[–]Mantagran 2 points 6 hours ago
99.9% of all humans are scum that wakes up in the morning just to rape, murder and do all other crimes instead of making this century the last of history and living in the paradise that could be established at any point if you all just weren't, to copy christian vocabulary, evil with no redeeming qualities.
So yes, I'd probably not be if I meet any but I also don't care as I don't think y'all should even exist.


[–]Resident_Factor3303 3 points 5 hours ago
Holy based


[–]VeganSandwich61- vegan 3 points 4 hours ago
Based


[–]wordytalks 0 points 6 hours ago
Well glad to see the fascism in vegan communities keeps rearing its ugly head. Y’all should deal with that. Anyways, see you later, Nazi.


[–]justatomss0 1 point 1 hour ago
Fascism where?? Do you even know what that word means lmao? 🤦‍♀️

Just like any other far left leaning subreddit it's always about how great they are compared to everyone else.

 
Sailor Kim Jong Moon said:
I’m sure it’s been discussed before, but can someone give me a psychological theory as to why redditors are so snarky and petty? Even innocuous comments or genuine questions is met with snark. Have they conditioned themselves to think that’s normal? Are they all just miserable?
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I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but it's 1984's CRIMESTOP. Their worldview cannot tolerate authenticity, because it doesn't touch reality at any point. If you engage with anything honestly, you may accidentally stumble over a point that undermines a core tenet of the faith. Detached, dismissive snark is the only way to safely engage with anyone without reducing all communication to "GOCK DOUBLEPLUSGOOD" (but they're working on getting there).
 
The Democrats have caved on the shutdown and 8 of their senators broke rank to reopen the government. Keep an eye out for any calls to violence as the Redditors seethe and wish death on anyone to the right of Hugo Chavez for the millionth time.
 
Sailor Kim Jong Moon said:
I’m sure it’s been discussed before, but can someone give me a psychological theory as to why redditors are so snarky and petty? Even innocuous comments or genuine questions is met with snark. Have they conditioned themselves to think that’s normal? Are they all just miserable?
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It was a big thing in the new atheism aka atheism+ movement to be as snarky as humanly possible and it spread to the rest of reddit like AIDS.
 
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Sailor Kim Jong Moon said:
I’m sure it’s been discussed before, but can someone give me a psychological theory as to why redditors are so snarky and petty? Even innocuous comments or genuine questions is met with snark. Have they conditioned themselves to think that’s normal? Are they all just miserable?
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They think they are smarter than they are
 
Crex Crex said:
What if I told you... I've seen plenty of slaughterhouse footage and literally don't care.
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I’ve been wondering…is veganism a thing that arises mostly in first world countries? Like, is it a result of privilege? I mean, think about it, most of the people who live in first-world conditions have never had to slaughter or hunt an animal a day in their lives. The animals they interact with are considered to be pets and companions. Cute animal videos are also very popular online and would encourage people to see all animals as these cute critters who deserve all the love in the world.

I mean, even dangerous animals like tigers or jaguars are often seen as “cute” nowadays and would not have been seen the same way by ancient people.

I know vegetarianism exists in third world countries like India, but even those societies see animals as a source of food (like milk).
 
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I’ve been wondering…is veganism a thing that arises mostly in first world countries? Like, is it a result of privilege? I mean, think about it, most of the people who live in first-world conditions have never had to slaughter or hunt an animal a day in their lives. The animals they interact with are considered to be pets and companions. Cute animal videos are also very popular online and would encourage people to see all animals as these cute critters who deserve all the love in the world.

I mean, even dangerous animals like tigers or jaguars are often seen as “cute” nowadays and would not have been seen the same way by ancient people.

I know vegetarianism exists in third world countries like India, but even those societies see animals as a source of food (like milk).
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Yeah, I think just straight veganism is predominately a first world thing, sects of Buddhism and Hinduism (and maybe Shintoism but I cannot remember) restrict the eating of meat (or at least anything that isn't fish) (a lot of Hindus eat chicken but nit beef) but milk, honey, and other animal products are fine. In most places, you either eat meat or you die.
I think veganism also stems from the massive hole left by the slow death of religion. Directionless people want some morality to follow that makes them seem righteous and virtuous, so abstaining from animal products is their go to because you are openly sacrificing your nutrition and certain creature comforts for an innocent entity. And, like the Pharisees, they make sure everybody knows it

Edit: so yes, it's predominately a first world/very privileged thing to do
 
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