Business Valve responds as indie horror studio accuses Steam of 'censorship' for banning its game about nude human 'Horses' - Valve told Santa Ragione its game featured child exploitation but the studio says otherwise.

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Update: Reached for comment, Valve replied that its content review team "extensively" discussed in 2023 whether to reconsider its refusal to list Horses for sale on Steam, but ultimately held its decision. Valve's full statement reads:

We reviewed the game back in 2023. At that time, the developer indicated with their release date in Steamworks that they planned to release a few months later. Based on content in the store page, we told the developer we would need to review the build itself. This happens sometimes if content on the store page causes concern that the game itself might not fall within our guidelines. After our team played through the build and reviewed the content, we gave the developer feedback about why we couldn’t ship the game on Steam, consistent with our onboarding rules and guidelines. A short while later the developer asked us to reconsider the review, and our internal content review team discussed that extensively and communicated to the developer our final decision that we were not going to ship the game on Steam.

While Valve's statement doesn't provide much additional detail about its decision making, it explains why Santa Ragione was asked to provide a playable build for Horses before its store listing could be approved, which isn't typically required of developers until closer to their application's launch.

Original story follows.

On December 2, Italian game dev studio Santa Ragione will release Horses, a first-person horror adventure telling a story of "the burden of familial trauma and puritan values, the dynamics of totalitarian power, and the ethics of personal responsibility," using what the studio calls "grotesque, subversive imagery" of a ranch where nude human beings in horse masks are treated as animal livestock.

Prerelease demos of Horses have been honored at IndieCade, Day of the Devs, SXSW Sydney showcases, and SFMOMA exhibitions. But while it'll be available for $5 on Epic Games Store, GOG, Itch.io, and the Humble Store for $5, Santa Ragione says the launch of Horses will leave the studio at risk of closing—because in June 2023, after submitting the game for listing on Steam, Santa Ragione received an email from Valve saying Horses was banned from Steam for featuring "content that appears, in our judgment, to depict sexual conduct involving a minor."

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In a lengthy FAQ page about the Horses launch, Santa Ragione shares the full text of the alleged June 2023 content review email from Steam:

"After review, we will not be able to ship your game Horses on Steam. While we strive to ship most titles submitted to us, we found that this title features themes, imagery, or descriptions that we won’t distribute. Regardless of a developer’s intentions with their product, we will not distribute content that appears, in our judgment, to depict sexual conduct involving a minor. While every product submitted is unique, if your product features this representation—even in a subtle way that could be defined as a 'grey area'—it will be rejected by Steam. For instance, setting your game in a high school but declaring your characters are of legal age would fall into that category and be banned. This app has been banned and cannot be reused. Re-submissions of this app, even with modifications, will not be accepted."

Santa Ragione says it believes Valve's reasoning to be "deliberately vague and unfounded" and insists "there are no scenes or characters in the game that fall within that grey area." While Valve never clarified the specific reasoning for banning Horses, even after the months Santa Ragione said it spent unsuccessfully seeking further detail and appeals, the studio suspects the ban may have been provoked by what it says was an incomplete scene from the game's sixth day, when the ranch is visited by a man and his daughter.

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"The daughter wants to ride one of the horses (in the game the 'horses' are humans wearing a horse mask) and gets to pick which one," Santa Ragione says in its FAQ. "What followed was an interactive dialogue sequence where the player is leading, by a lead as if they were a horse, a naked adult woman with a young girl on her shoulders."

Santa Ragione maintains that, despite its fraught imagery, the unfinished scene—which has since been changed—was "not sexual in any way," and studio co-founder and director Pietro Righi Riva told PC Gamer that Steam's refusal to ship the game was "completely 100% unexpected."

"We never even considered the possibility of being banned without an opportunity to appeal or resubmit," Riva said, noting that Steam's onboarding documentation and content guidelines—which Valve continually directed the studio to after its refusal—doesn't mention the inability to resubmit or appeal game review decisions.

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Asked whether he thought an objection to the unfinished sequence was appropriate, Riva said that while he "doesn't think the scene is sexual in nature," he thinks "it's reasonable to object to the juxtaposition" of a young girl riding the shoulders of a nude, leashed woman.

"It's important to note," he said, "that the daughter model from the initial submission was 100% placeholder from the start." At the time, Santa Ragione had only completed character art for the game's protagonists.

"If they had told us that the inclusion was a problem, I wouldn't have objected and would have immediately complied to requests for changes. All we'd want are clear rules/feedback and a path to compliance," Riva said.

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According to Riva, Santa Ragione cut the scene from external demo builds while the studio was "figuring out what to change." Horses development resumed in late 2024, after which Santa Ragione began working on script editing and final character art. "That's when we redesigned that scene with the new character and dialogue," Riva said.

Santa Ragione says that, in the game's full release, "all characters in the game are clearly older than 20 years old, as communicated by their appearance and through dialogue and documents." That includes the daughter in the scene Valve likely objected to, "both to avoid the juxtaposition and more importantly because the dialogue delivered in that scene, which deals with the societal structure in the world of Horses, works much better when delivered by an older character."

Santa Ragione's FAQ states that Horses wasn't changed to "get onto other platforms" following Steam's refusal, even as Riva says the studio would have altered the scene at Steam's request. In the case of the Epic Games Store, though, it doesn't seem like the studio would have needed to make changes.

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Riva told PC Gamer that Santa Ragione submitted Horses to the Epic store at the same time as its Steam submission, but unlike Steam, the Epic store doesn't require a playable build review. Its content guidelines contain similar broad warnings as Steam's, and according to Riva, Epic's only issues with Horses' listing submission involved visible nudity in its screenshots, which Santa Ragione censored for the store listing. But the sequence in question wouldn't have provoked any concerns from Epic at the time if it wasn't being played.

However, if—as Riva explained—the unfinished Day 6 scene was cut from external builds until late 2024, that might mean it was absent from indie showcases and exhibitions where Horses had been honored.

While Steam doesn't disclose its 'no second chances' policy until it's in effect, it's easy to imagine the rationale: If a game is refused for depictions of child exploitation, it's probably better for everyone if its creators can't repeatedly test that boundary. But it's less easy to say that standard is being evenly applied if it means Horses is banned from the platform while games like Blue Archive, which features eroticized imagery of childlike characters with conveniently ambiguous ages, are being monetized without issue.

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In a press release, Santa Ragione says losing access to a platform where more than 75% of PC game sales are made preempted its chances of finding a publisher. While it has set aside funds for six months of post-launch support for Horses, the studio says it will wind down operations after the game's launch, with studio closure likely to follow.

The Horses ban, Santa Ragione says, "has nothing to do with the recent restriction on adult content pushed by payment processors; this decision was solely in the hands of Steam's curatorial team." However, it nonetheless calls the decision an act of "moralizing censorship."

"Games are an artistic medium and lawful works for adults should remain accessible. We respect players enough to present the game as intended and to let adults choose what to play; lawful works should not be made unreachable by a monopolistic storefront's opaque decisions," Santa Ragione said in its press release. "Steam publicly downplays human curation in favor of algorithmic sales optimization, yet intervenes with censorship when a game's artistic vision does not align with what the platform owners considers acceptable art."

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I've seen multiple reactionary retards with no critical thinking skills, common sense or minds of their own claiming that this game, which was never released and has not been played by anyone, has child sexual abuse material in it. How in the FUCK would these worthless retards even know and what kind of massive retard would upload a game with god damn child porn in it to Steam just so that they could instantly be sent to prison? I swear I wish stupidity was punishable by death. It would be the best possible thing to happen to our species.
You convinced me. This should definitely be banned and its developers flogged.
 
I've seen multiple reactionary retards with no critical thinking skills, common sense or minds of their own claiming that this game, which was never released and has not been played by anyone, has child sexual abuse material in it. How in the FUCK would these worthless retards even know and what kind of massive retard would upload a game with god damn child porn in it to Steam just so that they could instantly be sent to prison? I swear I wish stupidity was punishable by death. It would be the best possible thing to happen to our species.
>"reactionary"

Opinion discarded.
 
This is the type of horror that needs some kind of explanation that somehow connects it to some bullshit moral cause so people pretend it's actually scary. Most of the best horror films, movies, games etc. usually don't need explanations. This is A24 derivative garbage as a thin veil for weird sex perversion
 
"no you can't censor my degeneracy game, i have a story to tell"
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Ay, yo, @N A R U v2 you've said banning lolicon is an attack on free speech and you have a personal unceasing vendetta against Valve and Steam because your COVID whining was banned. This is the perfect 'free speech: controversy attack vector for you to get into!
 
I've seen multiple mindless reactionary retards with no critical thinking skills, common sense or minds of their own claiming that this game, which was never released and has not been played by anyone, has child sexual abuse material in it. How in the FUCK would these worthless retards even know and what kind of massive retard would upload a game with god damn child porn in it to Steam just so that they could instantly be sent to prison? I swear I wish stupidity was punishable by death. It would be the best possible thing to happen to our species.
It’s amazing how pedos just jump out in these situations. You prove what it is, while getting mad we see it for what it is.

1.) Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 was stupid enough to include the ability to sleep with (rape) an underage character. Instead of the dev saying he wasn’t underage (because he couldn’t), he immediately started sperging about how it was realistic for the time.

2.) You need to figure out why people being rightfully disgusted by a kid being included in an open fetish game (and yes, the child was in the game and interacted with the perverse characters. No one is denying this but you), has you wishing death on people rightfully disgusted by it.

Steam has every right to say no thanks to someone who can’t figure out that’s the wrong thing to do.
You need your hard drive(s) confiscated.
 
I wish stupidity was punishable by death. It would be the best possible thing to happen to our species.
This is the most interesting part. The implication is that intelligence is hereditary, and so disposing of the feeble-minded is a necessary form of race hygiene or eugenics.

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Progressive and socialists have been here before. :cunningpepe: 💉
 
I've seen multiple mindless reactionary retards with no critical thinking skills, common sense or minds of their own claiming that this game, which was never released and has not been played by anyone, has child sexual abuse material in it. How in the FUCK would these worthless retards even know and what kind of massive retard would upload a game with god damn child porn in it to Steam just so that they could instantly be sent to prison? I swear I wish stupidity was punishable by death. It would be the best possible thing to happen to our species.

Cynical theory; the game was a trap designed to Trojan horse a game with child porn onto Steam so the Biden administration could nuke steam from orbit, destroying Steam forever.

The left has wanted Steam destroyed for ages and I can see some literal who studio being convinced to engage in a poison pill scheme to help destroy a company that dared defy the left for the longest time and was a serious roadblock to keeping the SJWs from fully taking control over gaming
 
It’s amazing how pedos just jump out in these situations. You prove what it is, while getting mad we see it for what it is.

1.) Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 was stupid enough to include the ability to sleep with (rape) an underage character. Instead of the dev saying he wasn’t underage (because he couldn’t), he immediately started sperging about how it was realistic for the time.

2.) You need to figure out why people being rightfully disgusted by a kid being included in an open fetish game (and yes, the child was in the game and interacted with the perverse characters. No one is denying this but you), has you wishing death on people rightfully disgusted by it.

Steam has every right to say no thanks to someone who can’t figure out that’s the wrong thing to do.
You need your hard drive(s) confiscated.
WHAT KID? Not one single person has backed up this claim with screen shots or any other kind of proof and even steam never mentioned anything having to do with children being the reason they banned the game, in fact they never said what the actual reason why they banned it at all was in their statement when directly asked why exactly it was banned. And then there's the basic common sense logical deduction that will tell anyone with a brain that if someone were stupid enough to upload child pornography to steam then they would be arrested for making and distributing child pornography which has not happened so this leads me to believe that you and all others spewing this line are a bunch of braindead retards parroting what some random lifeless lying attention whore of a loser said somewhere so that you can virtue signal like the shameless clout chasing faggots you are.

What's amazing is how seemingly half of the userbase of this site are obnoxious illiterate retards with no self awareness or common sense and egos to rival chris chan. You dense mongoloids are going to bring about a revived interest in eugenics for sure. Again, stupidity causing death would be the best thing that could happen to humanity as you so mindlessly showed everyone. Way to go closet cow.
 
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I've seen multiple mindless reactionary retards with no critical thinking skills, common sense or minds of their own claiming that this game, which was never released and has not been played by anyone, has child sexual abuse material in it. How in the FUCK would these worthless retards even know and what kind of massive retard would upload a game with god damn child porn in it to Steam just so that they could instantly be sent to prison? I swear I wish stupidity was punishable by death. It would be the best possible thing to happen to our species.
Let’s see your hard drive. Your reaction tells me that you defend CP. kill yourself.
 
what kind of massive retard would upload a game with god damn child porn in it to Steam just so that they could instantly be sent to prison?
The people who made KC: D2 for one?
Also I distinctly remember of a thing called Shower with dad simulator being a thing on Steam.

The 14 year old prince that the MC fucks up the poopoo in a gay sex scene?

reactionary
Oh here I was thinking I'm talking to a normal person. Turns out I wasted my time on a retard
 
I’m into reading extreme horror literature (think Woom and Cows and such) so my view may be a little different than most people, but to me the question always comes down to “why is that in the game/book” and “did anyone get harmed”.
Without playing the game I can’t say one way or the other if it’s JO material for the developers, you can always tell if it is, but either way if you want to sell on Steam you need to follow their rules. And that’s always been a problem for extreme horror, by its nature it deals with things many publishers and stores do not want to deal with or be around.
The point of extreme horror, just as an aside, is to make you as uncomfortable as possible for either shock (SAW is just about the traps), thematic exploration of disturbing subjects (Black Farm is about pushing through infinite suffering for the sake of others), or even just articulating the feelings that come from trauma (Alfred’s Playhouse is a great example). It’s a rare example of a genre that goes out of its way to alienate audiences, when it’s done well it’s amazing and when it’s done poorly it’s wankgarbage.
 
>hates the burden of puritan values and wants to admonish them via his game

>the game has naked children in it
 
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