GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

Judge Dredd said:
I've never heard that. I was talking about computer companies forcing you into low end hardware, so anything that needs any degree of processing power (video editing, gaming) you will be forced to use their shitty cloud services. It's dumb and I don't think it'll work, but when has that stopped companies throwing billions at something.
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If Dell announced they were no longer going to sell laptops and workstations, but instead move everyone to APEX and just sell thin client books from here on out, the CEO of Boeing would kill Michael Dell, in real life, with a gun, on live TV, and nobody would prosecute him.
 
The Ugly One said:
If Dell announced they were no longer going to sell laptops and workstations, but instead move everyone to APEX and just sell thin client books from here on out, the CEO of Boeing would kill Michael Dell, in real life, with a gun, on live TV, and nobody would prosecute him.
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Which is why they've instead opted for the long march through the institutions by making everyone reliant on cloud services like teams and adobe creative cloud so when Sandeep Gudjahar gets gunned down in public by an angry nerd they've already got tendrils where they need to exert maximum influence
 
The Ugly One said:
A VM is not a remotely hosted operating system for your computer. What you described is a remotely hosted VM. That VM is not scheduling application time on your local CPU cores. It isn't managing page files for your SSD or memory tables for your RAM. It isn't managing PCIe traffic for your USB devices and GPU.
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It was not a VM...

edit: just to cut things short I'll concede, it is impossible. Never happened.
 
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big pauper said:
Which is why they've instead opted for the long march through the institutions by making everyone reliant on cloud services like teams and adobe creative cloud so when Sandeep Gudjahar gets gunned down in public by an angry nerd they've already got tendrils where they need to exert maximum influence
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Some software is cloud hosted. Lots isn't. The push to get every company to replace its local machines with cloud VMs died ten years ago. The reason is that who calls whose shots flips once the customer spends enough money. When you buy a $1500 computer from Dell once every five years, Dell tells you what you can buy. When you buy $150,000,000 of software and services from Dell every year, you tell Dell what they are going to sell you.


Smaug's Smokey Hole 2 said:
It was not a VM...
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Oh, my bad. When you remote into a machine whose operating system isn't running on a hypervisor, its OS actually tunnels through the internet and starts managing your devices and program scheduling directly. That's how computers work.
 
the silicon valley tech moguls don't seem to understand that your brand image is not dictated by how many companies spend millions of dollars on your product, but the people who buy $1500 computers every five years. They don't make you the money but they're the people who write the news articles about your company in Bloomberg. Forcing people to do what they want works, so its hard to criticize its efficacy in short term profit, but it's also had an indirect consequence of making an increasingly minority of users not just unhappy but actively spiteful. When you're a company like Microsoft whose entire mindshare is based on prior experience that's a fucking crazy gambit to double down on because it will bite them in the ass at some point, it's just a question of when.
 
Does anyone have some bougie headphones they’d recommend? I kind of miss having surround even if it’s emulated and I kind of want a change from HyperX.
 
I have a pair of bose Quietcomfort 15 noise cancelling headphones from 2009 and they're very good but It very much feels like the QC15 was marketed towards jet setting boomers (in a good way) and the QC35 is being marketed towards the turtle beach demographic. because all of the new features theyve added are things like "google assistant button" and "weak hinges so it folds into our weird shaped carrying case" and "non-user-serviceable rechargeable battery" and they still can't put earpads on their $200 headsets that don't fall apart after six months.

It's just so bizarre to look into something with the willingness to drop like $100 on a much newer thing expecting it to be better and then getting convinced by the marketing itself that you have the better version
 
Takayuki Yagami said:
Does anyone have some bougie headphones they’d recommend? I kind of miss having surround even if it’s emulated and I kind of want a change from HyperX.
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AirPods Max. They’re crazy good. Comfortable, good battery life, good sound, and decent mic without having a boom that needs to go in front of your mouth. They have ANC as well as hear-through, so you can turn on ANC while gaming to not hear the fans ramp up, or hear-through while listening to music on the couch and having a conversation. The ear pads are machine washable (ask for one of your girlfriend’s underwear bags) and there are Chinese clones in every colour imaginable if you want to style them.
 
I ended up dipping and got myself a new GPU before shit gets worse.
Issue now is that for some reason it seems I need to reboot at least once my PC after a cold boot, as OpenGL will eventually shit itself and crash the wayland session. There's also the fact that during this first boot Steam will be unable to precompile Vulkan shaders on any game, so it gives me an idea of the GPU somehow being dead, but not because the system picks it up without issue and I can query it for data. Schrödinger's GPU if you will.

So far I'm stuck between "Nvidia drivers are shit" to "I somehow mounted it wrong" to "the device is faulty" to "I fucked up the PCIE" because when uninstalling the previous GPU I forgot that I had to unscrew two additional screws. I have no idea. Could also be that, somehow, on the first boot the system is picking up the CPU and uses the CPU as main graphics processor.
I miss when things just worked, but I'm okay with the purchase so far.
 
Unstable Diffusion said:
I ended up dipping and got myself a new GPU before shit gets worse.
Issue now is that for some reason it seems I need to reboot at least once my PC after a cold boot, as OpenGL will eventually shit itself and crash the wayland session. There's also the fact that during this first boot Steam will be unable to precompile Vulkan shaders on any game, so it gives me an idea of the GPU somehow being dead, but not because the system picks it up without issue and I can query it for data. Schrödinger's GPU if you will.

So far I'm stuck between "Nvidia drivers are shit" to "I somehow mounted it wrong" to "the device is faulty" to "I fucked up the PCIE" because when uninstalling the previous GPU I forgot that I had to unscrew two additional screws. I have no idea. Could also be that, somehow, on the first boot the system is picking up the CPU and uses the CPU as main graphics processor.
I miss when things just worked, but I'm okay with the purchase so far.
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Does Wayland not support Vulkan?
 
Unstable Diffusion said:
I ended up dipping and got myself a new GPU before shit gets worse.
Issue now is that for some reason it seems I need to reboot at least once my PC after a cold boot, as OpenGL will eventually shit itself and crash the wayland session. There's also the fact that during this first boot Steam will be unable to precompile Vulkan shaders on any game, so it gives me an idea of the GPU somehow being dead, but not because the system picks it up without issue and I can query it for data. Schrödinger's GPU if you will.

So far I'm stuck between "Nvidia drivers are shit" to "I somehow mounted it wrong" to "the device is faulty" to "I fucked up the PCIE" because when uninstalling the previous GPU I forgot that I had to unscrew two additional screws. I have no idea. Could also be that, somehow, on the first boot the system is picking up the CPU and uses the CPU as main graphics processor.
I miss when things just worked, but I'm okay with the purchase so far.
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Did you plug into the GPU and not your motherboard?
 
Unstable Diffusion said:
I ended up dipping and got myself a new GPU before shit gets worse.
Issue now is that for some reason it seems I need to reboot at least once my PC after a cold boot, as OpenGL will eventually shit itself and crash the wayland session. There's also the fact that during this first boot Steam will be unable to precompile Vulkan shaders on any game, so it gives me an idea of the GPU somehow being dead, but not because the system picks it up without issue and I can query it for data. Schrödinger's GPU if you will.

So far I'm stuck between "Nvidia drivers are shit" to "I somehow mounted it wrong" to "the device is faulty" to "I fucked up the PCIE" because when uninstalling the previous GPU I forgot that I had to unscrew two additional screws. I have no idea. Could also be that, somehow, on the first boot the system is picking up the CPU and uses the CPU as main graphics processor.
I miss when things just worked, but I'm okay with the purchase so far.
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You should be able to disable integrated graphics in UEFI. Nvidia and Wayland are still probably a miserable combo.
 
George Lucas said:
Does Wayland not support Vulkan?
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Hyprland which is the WM I am using runs on OpenGL ES.
Other WMs do run on Vulkan, though.

WelperHelper99 said:
Did you plug into the GPU and not your motherboard?
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jeff7989 said:
You should be able to disable integrated graphics in UEFI. Nvidia and Wayland are still probably a miserable combo.
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I can't check right now so I'd have to do it later. With the previous GPU I had absolutely no issues whatsoever, but for example to expand on the current issues I'm having with the new device / drivers, sometimes any non-primary monitor starts freaking out and starts flickering windows in and out of existence by what it seems a surface size error as the way they disappear is by doing a resize motion. This is easily stopped by changing a value in the current monitor configuration as it forces both monitors to be reloaded.

...I'm not explaining all of this as if "I wanted to have technical aid", but to further support the Nvidia + Wayland experience statement. I suppose that with a couple of years the current GPU I have will become more stable, similarly to how stable I had my previous GPU. However I believe it's not a issue limited to Wayland, as some recently released non-Unity/Unreal Engine games also have rendering and performance issues, and those run under x11 in Proton, this is to say that the issue is wider than just the display / WM acting out, so maybe "Nvidia + Linux experience" would be a fairer statement.
 
We have some more specific numbers for the "5d superman memory crystal" storage technology:

The Register: The future of long-term data storage is clear and will last 14 billion years (archive)
  • Indefinite lifespan, the number they came up with isn't important.
  • Up to 360 terabytes on a 5-inch glass platter. 5-inch sounds like they could actually mean 4.7-inch (120mm), meaning that the death of the spinning optical disc could be cancelled. But don't get too excited yet.
  • 30 MB/s read, 4 MB/s write in the lab, and they want to reach 500 MB/s read/write within 4 years.
    • >2 years, 42 weeks at 4 MB/s
    • >19 weeks at 30 MB/s
    • >8.3 days at 500 MB/s
  • Focus on cold data storage retrieval that can wait for 10+ seconds. Whether or not this means random I/O and latency are significantly worse than HDD/Blu-ray and more comparable to tape is unclear.
  • Initially $6,000 for read device, $30,000 for write device.
  • Another 3-4 years R&D needed before sales could commence. They want to license it out, not manufacture it themselves.
 
hard drives and tape are both ancient technology that were at one point the fastest means of economically storing data. now they're just used for cold storage. hard drives are still limited by an increasingly obsolete ~300mbps transfer rate in the best of circumstances and they're both totally ripe for a new technology to wipe them out. i don't really know if quantum chungus crystals would wipe out hard drives, but it would definitely wipe out tapes.
 
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