US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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SaidNoOneEver said:
How did you ever believe that enough wealth existed for everyone to be able to achieve intergenerational wealth?
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If it doesn't exist, then it shouldn't be promised. If it shouldn't be, then the sentiments in that Charlie Kirk "white pill" video are bogus. So is the entire post-Keynesian neo-liberal world order, but I'll spare everyone the full economic rant.

I will say that in a country as big and resource-rich as the USA, the math tends to work out if the natural economic cycle is allowed to run. Intergenerational wealth was being achieved for over a century, and even with the post-modern birthrate decline, it should have continued to be achievable. But government, industrial leaders, and activists have been directly subverting and tampering with economic structures since the 1970s, which makes it unlikely to be possible now, if at all.

(My unspoken point is that this same promise is also being extended to every 3rd world immigrant out there, which makes it certain to fail even if it could have succeeded.)
 
Myrtle the Turtle said:
I don't think they're like NFTs since they're already being implemented in the workforce at breakneck speed. Its not a replacing humans 100% but its replacing the need for as many people as there were before to do the job. So a job for 10 people can now be done with 5 because the workload is manageable for those 5 people now.
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AI is the new 3D printing. Is it a big deal? Yes. Will crappy homemade widgets completely destroy high-precision at-scale manufacturing? No.
 
Glowing In The Streets said:
The NYT released a cover that makes Trump look super cool
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I have noticed parallels between trump and ceasar so I actually decided to torment myself by reading the article.

After throwing this based quote out:
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it then proceeds to pretend they haven't been calling Christianity evil (or at best catering to those who do) for the past 15 years:
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The rest of the article is the typical leftist crap we've heard a million times: "since Jesus teaches you to not be a shitflinging animal that means you have to let insane people rob and kill you :)".

Really the only use that comes from this article is as another example that they know their typical crap isn't working and they're desperately scrambling to find a new optics strategy.
 
The Ugly One said:
AI is the new 3D printing. Is it a big deal? Yes. Will crappy homemade widgets completely destroy high-precision at-scale manufacturing? No.
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Is it funny to watch retarded suburban dads risk their lives in an attempt to prove their faith in their ill conceived and ultimately poorly bonded -plastic- widgets because it makes them feel like they may have done something pragmatic or useful?

Absolutely
 
David Floyd George said:
There's been a Medicare payroll tax since 1965. The 65+ crowd has earned at least some of its benefits.
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That isn't how it actually works though, it's similar to social security where the idea is that the current working population supports the current aged population. Most beneficiaries cost more than they ever put in, they're not getting back out what they "earned."
Not that it matters because the crux of it all is that it is inevitably going to break and few want to acknowledge that and most voters will scream how they "paid into" it but that's a huge misunderstanding done to basically dupe people into "paying into" it forever.
 
JayseeDenton said:
I have noticed parallels between trump and ceasar so I actually decided to torment myself by reading the article.

After throwing this based quote out:
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it then proceeds to pretend they haven't been calling Christianity evil (or at best catering to those who do) for the past 15 years:
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The rest of the article is the typical leftist crap we've heard a million times: "since Jesus teaches you to not be a shitflinging animal that means you have to let insane people rob and kill you :)".

Really the only use that comes from this article is as another example that they know their typical crap isn't working and they're desperately scrambling to find a new optics strategy.
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When best jew is the Christs strongest soldier.
 
JosephStalin said:
Wonder how things are going at Guantanamo. If things in Cuba collapsed wonder if Cubans would go to the base seeking help.
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Interesting idea. Havana is on the far opposite side of the island. Santiago de Cuba has about half a million people and Guantánamo has around 250,000.

I doubt they would see an influx of refugees. What are they going to do? Beg for spoiled rations? Theres only 15 prisoners left and a large migrant detention center there. Not exactly a bastion of aid.
 
Myrtle the Turtle said:
Interesting idea. Havana is on the far opposite side of the island. Santiago de Cuba has about half a million people and Guantánamo has around 250,000.

I doubt they would see an influx of refugees. What are they going to do? Beg for spoiled rations? Theres only 15 prisoners left and a large migrant detention center there. Not exactly a bastion of aid.
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They can eat the migrants.
 
Aidan said:
I agree with the overall sentiment and am not in favor of revoking benefits from beneficiaries but they didn't "earn" those benefits. It's a promise by the system, not an account being paid into, and that promise is a big part of what's bankrupting this country. Not Medicare alone, but it's a huge chunk of the mandatory spending slice. It is a matter of time before it crumbles and then people who "earned it" will not get what they "earned." This notion of "earning" benefits is a great lie that I assume traces back to FDR as a way to convince people his programs wouldn't cost more than they consumed.
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Medicare and Social Security are under a lot of strain right now. The fate of former I'm unsure but there have been on proposals on how to maintain the latter by raising the minimum age to receive it or raising how much money is to be paid into the program. Curious to see what will become of it all but politicians addressing either can be described as something akin to pulling teeth.
 
Breadbassket said:
Medicare and Social Security is under a lot of strain right now. The fate of former I'm unsure but there have been on proposals on how to maintain the latter by raising the minimum age to receive it or raising how much money is to be paid into the program. Curious to see what will become of it all but politicians addressing either can be described as something akin to pulling teeth.
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Social Security was by far the worst legacy of FDR. It’s apparently one of the largest government spending items, and people forced to pay into it are unlikely to receive any benefits from it
 
Aidan said:
That isn't how it actually works though, it's similar to social security where the idea is that the current working population supports the current aged population. Most beneficiaries cost more than they ever put in, they're not getting back out what they "earned."
Not that it matters because the crux of it all is that it is inevitably going to break and few want to acknowledge that and most voters will scream how they "paid into" it but that's a huge misunderstanding done to basically dupe people into "paying into" it forever.
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Social security would work perfectly well if it were confined to the truly eligible: Retirees who have paid into the system and those legitimately unable to work. Those two groups aren't the problem (and in fact many of the former paid hundreds of thousands of dollars into it over the course of their working lives). If you want to rant, rant against the frauds, cheats, and abusers - they're the ones pulling the system down. The same is true with Medicare, though as @SpergioLeonne pointed out the cost/benefit analysis on that one isn't easy.
 
Bland Crumbs said:
You could also just issue people a state voting ID at 18 for free. You could probably cover the cost with a couple of learing centers shut down.
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They do issue state IDs for free. You don't have to have (or ask for) a driver's license. You can just fucking show up with your kid at whatever DMV office with whatever paperwork you have, say "hey my kid needs state ID, we have no money, halp" and half an hour later you'll either have a shiny new ID in-hand or it'll be on its way to you in the mail.

I don't know of any state in the US that won't issue a state ID (non-driving) free of charge for someone who doesn't have existing ID (provided you can furnish other adequately-verifiable identification, that is ... stuff like birth cert, SSN card, other shit like that).

The real reason they keep claiming "oh getting ID is just sooooooooo hard, expensive and racist" is that last part -- you have to be able to prove who you are (and that you're legal) to get even a free ID. Illegals (by definition) can't do that. Although fuckheaded states like California give IDs to NON-CITIZENS too like the dipshits they are. It's substantially easier to cheat in elections when nobody's allowed to check ID's at the door.

CIS White Droid said:
It's both hilarious and utterly terrifying just how disconnected from reality these people are.
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Dude ... it's fucking hilarious watching body cam videos of dumb fucks like shoplifters or airport Karens getting arrested, and decide halfway through their losing argument they're gonna fucking call 911 on the cops. "What are you doing?" "I'm calling 911!" "We're already here." "I WANT YOUR SUPERVISOR THOUGH!"

Sometimes the better channels actually manage to get the phone call audio too, and it's side-splitting funny. The dispatchers have to force themselves not to laugh at these dumb fucks while telling them to get off the phone and talk to the officers already present.

They always catch extra "misuse of 911" charges for that too. Naturally, this surprises them as well.

"Disconnected from reality" is an understatement. They interface with the real world only by accident and against all conscious effort to the contrary.
 
Social aid programs need to be audited but at the same time, realistically whoever leads the charge in such an endeavor will be putting a massive target on their back.
 
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