#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

Captain Manning said:
He's Enlightened Fan. @COMMI3 MARK and @Fleetwood proved it last year, in case you missed it.
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I sure did miss that. Thank you, Cap. I knew he was a retard, I just didn't know he was that particular retard. Christ, it's worse than I thought.

Captain Manning said:
I thought the attempt to force lolcow status on Eric July was annoying (and I still do), but the demand from some corners that we all get kneepads out and suck Eric July's cock is equally fucking annoying. It might even be more so at this point, because I think most people on KF are in general agreement now that Zack and EVS have completely lost the plot when it comes to their hateboner for July. Deifying Eric July is absolutely not a precondition to mocking Zack and EVS as they continue to circle the drain.
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It's a little too easy for me to lean into a sort of reactive devaluation as a heuristic. It's fine in a general sense sometimes. I can reasonably infer that if the redditor faggot class are vehemently opposed to something I don't know much about, that thing is probably not that bad or even flat-out great. But discernment is a gift of the holy spirit and even a blind hog finds a truffle now and then.

EVS and Zack are both nearing the bottom of their particular barrels and the fantastic pressure of those depths has wreaked havoc on their brain tissue, BUT their impotent, retarded bleating doesn't mean Eric July's comics are necessarily good. On the contrary, that's what makes the pitiful hate boner so funny. Eric July makes mediocre, run of the mill capeshit that he manages to deliver in a timely fashion and he makes good money doing it. EVS and Zack can't even manage that and it has broken their fucking minds to the point of insanity.

Two things can be true at once: Ethan and Zack are retarded assholes driven to insanity by the threat of Eric July's success AND Eric July makes a meh product.

Captain Manning said:
IMO, this dude has always been a drag on the thread and makes any attempt at a discussion even tangentially involving Eric July, outside of mindlessly worshipping him, extraordinarily unpleasant.
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Amen. A few times I've tried to be charitable and cordial about his taking offense to any and all sentiments remotely critical of Rippathings, but it just doesn't stop. Then he did the whole "wHy EvaN doNt haB a tHreAd" shit, which I tried to explain, once politely and again rather curtly, to no avail. I wasn't planning to call him out like I did but his pretending to represent the opinions of most Farmers here, acting like some kind of authority on what is or isn't up for discussion on this thread, and just his general faggotry was too much.
 
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Miniluv said:
EVS and Zack are both nearing the bottom of their particular barrels and the fantastic pressure of those depths has wreaked havoc on their brain tissue, BUT their impotent, retarded bleating doesn't mean Eric July's comics are necessarily good. On the contrary, that's what makes the pitiful hate boner so funny. Eric July makes mediocre, run of the mill capeshit that he manages to deliver in a timely fashion and he makes good money doing it. EVS and Zack can't even manage that and it has broken their fucking minds to the point of insanity.
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I agree. The main disparity between EVS and July is in their work ethic, and not the quality of their finished products.

This isn't even a situation where the two are going at each other. It's entirely one-sided. This is a situation where Eric July is keeping his nose to the grindstone and succeeding because of that. Ethan can't or won't rise to meet the challenge, and has instead chosen to make much of his life about trying to destroy July for the crime of essentially building a better Comicsgate.

It's fun to watch, and I think July is the much better person in all this, but he's no artistic genius. He's no God.

Miniluv said:
Amen. A few times I've tried to be charitable and cordial about his taking offense to any and all sentiments remotely critical of Rippathings, but it just doesn't stop. Then he did the whole "wHy EvaN doNt haB a tHreAd" shit, which I tried to explain, once politely and again rather curtly, to no avail. I wasn't planning to call him out like I did but his pretending to represent the opinions of most Farmers here, acting like some kind of authority on what is or isn't up for discussion on this thread, and just his general faggotry was too much.
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Yeah, it's called backseat moderating. Before he would just lose his shit at people offering even the most mild criticism of July. Now, he's added the element of thinking he can command people to not post anything he perceives as critical of July. He can miss me with that shit.

FFS, all @dukejinsen22 did was point out (correctly) that a trademark connected to the Rippaverse has expired. It's not even that big of a deal, and seems to be more an oversight on Dillard's part anyways.
 
Captain Manning said:
I agree. The main disparity between EVS and July is in their work ethic, and not the quality of their finished products.

This isn't even a situation where the two are going at each other. It's entirely one-sided. This is a situation where Eric July is keeping his nose to the grindstone and succeeding because of that. Ethan can't or won't rise to meet the challenge, and has instead chosen to make much of his life about trying to destroy July for the crime of essentially building a better Comicsgate.

It's fun to watch, and I think July is the much better person in all this, but he's no artistic genius. He's no God.
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The issue is that his detractors are total idiots. Every time they open their cake hole they ask us "Aren't we better than him?" and we answer "No, for this and that reason." and it sounds like we are worshipping Eric. We do not worship him. His competition is so bad that we cannot help but side with him. I never even read any of the Rippaverse and I know that by virtue of delivering the products on time and expanding his business, he is VERY successful.

Everytime they talk about Eric it is like that scene from Brooklyn 99: "Who wore it best?"they ask and we reply "Eric!". And that can get boring but it is not the fault of Eric's fans. It is the fault of CG for still trying to compare themselves to Eric and talk about how much they are winning against him even though they never even provide the product that is supposed to compete against the Rippaverse in the first place. They demand the trophy but they refuse to enter the competition out of laziness and fear. They know they have nothing groundbreaking and they cower. Well, Eric doesn't have either but he entered anyway and won.
 
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Incecticyder said:
The issue is that his detractors are total idiots. Every time they open their cake hole they ask us "Aren't we better that him?" and we answer "No, for this and that reason." and it sounds like we are worshipping Eric. We do not worship him. His competition is so bad that we cannot help but side with him. I never even read any of the Rippaverse and I know that by virtue of delivering the products on time and expanding his business, he is VERY successful.
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I think the credibility of this thread would be severely damaged if it ever became an "Eric July fan thread," and I resent the repeated attempts by Enlightened Fan to try and force it into becoming one.

Mindful of the fact that the idiots in Ethan's camp will probably try to cast it as one regardless of what anybody here says. FROG was clearly not happy when his PA request to the Farms was denied. None of those people are smart or honest enough to understand the difference between people who think CG's jihad against July is dumb, and people who are unironic fans of July.

What I will say about July is that I am happy he is doing well, and I genuinely feel bad for all the harassment he has had to deal with (including criminal harassment).

But I still think his comics are mid. He's winning, in large part, because Ethan has essentially surrendered the field from laziness and unwillingness to adapt to the fact he has serious competition now. He refuses to correct long-standing issues within CG regarding getting product into people's hands, and that is entirely on him.
 
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Captain Manning said:
I think the credibility of this thread would be severely damaged if it ever became an "Eric July fan thread," and I resent the repeated attempts by Enlightened Fan to try and force it into becoming one.
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Well, it isn't anyone's "Fan Thread". It is the CG Thread and CG keeps bringing Eric into the conversation. This comparison does not benefit them because Eric has them beat in every metric. Like, what are we supposed to do? Give pity points to CG so it doesn't look like an one-sided slaughter? Fuck that!

Captain Manning said:
Mindful of the fact that the idiots in Ethan's camp will probably try to cast it as one regardless of what anybody here says. FROG was clearly not happy when his PA request to the Farms was denied. None of those people are smart or honest enough to understand the difference between people who think CG's jihad against is July is dumb, and people who are unironic fans of July .
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Their fault that they alienated the neutrals and the former fans. We have nothing to prove. They should stop sucking.

Captain Manning said:
But his comics are still mid. He's winning, in large part, because Ethan has essentially surrendered the field from laziness and unwillingness to adapt to the fact he has serious competition now. He refuses to correct long-standing issues within CG regarding getting product into people's hands, and that is entirely on him.
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So what if they are a bit mid? They have their fans and they are delivered on time. Really, the entire comicbook industry surrendered. The Big 2 have ruined their stories, Image was a mixed bag at the best of times, the smaller publishers are about the same level as the Rippaverse in terms of quality (only with more leftism) and manga is taking everyone's lunch money. Eric did not promise masterpieces that will cure the cancer of the citizens of Hiroshima and Nagasaki retroactively. He made comics to the best of his ability. Honestly, apart from his work ethic, his greatest strength is his ability to get others to work for him. He is not the Messiah! He is just a good businessman and a good human! Admitting that does not make us his fans.

Seeing Eric "compete" against CG (and the industry as a whole) is like watching a football season where there is one decent team and everyone else is a bunch of incompetent idiots. Yeah, that one team won every match without allowing any other team to even score. So what? Why shouldn't we acknowledge that? His opponent were the Marvel Lemmings, the DC Roadkills, the Image Coin-tossers, the CG Sloths and a bunch of other paste eaters and marker sniffers. Of course Eric would win. Why should we pretend that the matches were even close? The Rippaverse might not be all that impressive but their competition is worse!
 
Incecticyder said:
Of course Eric would win. Why should we pretend that the matches were even close? The Rippaverse might not be all that impressive but their competition is worse!
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I agree with everything in your post save for this one thing:

I feel Iconic is also superior competition. Indeed, while I am not a fan of July's work, I am a fan of Tim Lim's.

Historically, Ethan has been able to hand wave away Iconic because none of their campaigns brought in as much money as the first Cyberfrog. It's a stupid arbitrary standard that ignores many other factors, and I will never believe it was not adopted as a cope by Ethan, but that's the standard Ethan set. "When person x has a comic that does as well as mine, then they can criticize me."

Cue Eric July managing to surpass Ethan in sales, and Ethan finally losing his shit because he could no longer fall back on the same tired cope.
 
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Captain Manning said:
I agree with everything in your post save for this one thing:

I feel Iconic is also superior competition to Comicsgate. Indeed, while I am not a fan of July's work, I am a fan of Tim Lim's.

Historically, Ethan has been able to hand wave away Iconic because none of their campaigns brought in as much money as the first Cyberfrog. It's a stupid arbitrary standard that ignores many other factors, and I will never believe it was not adopted as a cope by Ethan, but that's the standard Ethan set. "When person x has a comic that does as well as mine, then they can criticize me."

Cue Eric July managing to surpass Ethan in sales, and Ethan finally losing his shit because he could no longer fall back on the same tired cope.
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I see what you mean. While it is true that Iconic has better quality stuff, I do think that they are a bit too friendly to be competition. The guys who buy from one, usually buy from the other as well. I don't know, they just do not feel like they are really competing. Marvel and DC are but these two seem like they no real rivalry. Still, it is a fair point to argue that Iconic is better regarded in terms of quality. Still, I do not really have a dog in this fight. I just like calling out CG and the rest of the industry for failing their fans.
 
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IMO Eric July makes Mid comics but at least he's not a gay control freak like Ethan Van Sciver
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For comics that are so mid and forgettable, people sure do have a hard time forgetting about it. When people say mid I look at it as agenda less and pure escapism with no political messaging....you know like how they're supposed to be? You may as well call western's mid because they have cowboys and outlaws, and clearly more people disagree with the mid comment because they keep selling. 🤷 Sometimes the original formula is what works.

Captain Manning said:
I agree with everything in your post save for this one thing:

I feel Iconic is also superior competition. Indeed, while I am not a fan of July's work, I am a fan of Tim Lim's.
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Honestly I'm more of a Soulfinder fan myself. Kamen America looks interesting but not something I would be interested in. I guess Rippaverse and Iconic are the superior quality compared to Comicsgate, at least by now they are. Also there have been a lot of books that came out since Isom. The only thing that interests me and Iconic is Soulfinder. Nothing else in their interests me so far.

Captain Manning said:
But I still think his comics are mid.
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You can think his comics are mid, that's your decision. I think of mid as classic storytelling that classic storytelling worked before and I see no reason why it shouldn't now. I mean there are people that like stories like that, it's a lot more common than people think.
 
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Mr Processor said:
But what about ComicBook: The ComicBook! Which should come out any day now!
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I mean I can understand if Rippaverse is not somebody's taste, but people act like superhero stories are the only things they make even now. TBF Rippaverse promised classic stories with escapism and no messaging.... And that's what they delivered. Comicsgate on the other hand almost never deliver anything and the stuff they do deliver was not even worth the wait. Another thing people like to forget is that Superhero stories are not the only things Rippaverse does at this point in time. People would be surprised how much people enjoy classic superhero stories that certain people would consider "Mid" in this day and age, as well as the number of people that enjoy them.
 
Captain Manning said:
He's Enlightened Fan. @COMMI3 MARK and @Fleetwood proved it last year, in case you missed it.

I thought the attempt to force lolcow status on Eric July was annoying (and I still do), but the demand from some corners that we all get kneepads out and suck Eric July's cock is equally fucking annoying. It might even be more so at this point, because I think most people on KF are in general agreement now that Zack and EVS have completely lost the plot when it comes to their hateboner for July. Deifying Eric July is absolutely not a precondition to mocking Zack and EVS as they continue to circle the drain.

IMO, this dude has always been a drag on the thread and makes any attempt at a discussion even tangentially involving Eric July, outside of mindlessly worshipping him, extraordinarily unpleasant.

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Yeah..... A lot has changed. I don't worship Eric July I just don't like people lying about writers that I enjoy, and by your logic that would mean anybody that defends somebody they enjoy would actually worship them too, like Chuck Dixon or Mike Baron. I remember saying profusely you don't have to like the guy, and I've even come to terms of people calling Rippaverse mid as nothing more than a compliment because to me it means classic and timeless as well as original.... And that's the kind of stuff I enjoy and you would be surprised how many other people enjoy the same thing. Also Commie Mark is a CG shill, and he has bigger things to worry about than my opinions with how bad CG is actually doing.
 
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KiwiChud said:
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Incecticyder said:
I see what you mean. While it is true that Iconic has better quality stuff, I do think that they are a bit too friendly to be competition. The guys who buy from one, usually buy from the other as well. I don't know, they just do not feel like they are really competing. Marvel and DC are but these two seem like they no real rivalry. Still, it is a fair point to argue that Iconic is better regarded in terms of quality. Still, I do not really have a dog in this fight. I just like calling out CG and the rest of the industry for failing their fans.
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Ethan hates Lim's guts, and Lim doesn't particularly care for Ethan. The only reason Ethan never went in on Lim as hard as he goes in on July is because of the reason I stated earlier. Ethan never viewed Lim as a threat the way he now views July. They would trade barbs every once in a while, but that's about it. With July, it's a full on jihad from Ethan's side.

However, if by "friendly" you mean there is cross-pollination of CG backers and Iconic backers, I honestly couldn't tell you. You may be right.

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Yeah..... A lot has changed. I don't worship Eric July I just don't like people lying about writers that I enjoy, and by your logic that would mean anybody that defends somebody they enjoy would actually worship them too, like Chuck Dixon or Mike Baron.
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Okay, but nobody was lying. Your lost your shit AGANE just because somebody pointed out that a wordmark associated with a work Eric July publishes had expired. When it was calmly explained to you what that meant, you continued to lose your shit, cast aspersions on the honesty and motivations of the user that brought it up, and then falsely claimed that it was out of bounds for discussion here and that nobody cares.

It's all so tiresome.
 
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