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XYZpdq Jr. said:
highs above eighty degrees fucked DATs lol
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Found some article claiming that DATs should be stored according to some ISO certification at 73 degrees maximum at 30RH I'm guessing long term. Are you telling me the reason they don't push them on consumers was longevity and not that the RIAA feared a lossless format?
 
Attempt Turd said:
Found some article claiming that DATs should be stored according to some ISO certification at 73 degrees maximum at 30RH I'm guessing long term. Are you telling me the reason they don't push them on consumers was longevity and not that the RIAA feared a lossless format?
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I've had very limited interactions with them irl but I've always heard they're VERY bad about warping in heat compared to most media. Also the tape is supposedly somewhat fussy like Betamax was regarded as.
 
XYZpdq Jr. said:
I've had very limited interactions with them irl but I've always heard they're VERY bad about warping in heat compared to most media. Also the tape is supposedly somewhat fussy like Betamax was regarded as.
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The thing is all formats were kind of fussy back then. All tapes got worn out and might get unravelled by a player. CDs would get scratched or died from ni visible reason, probably delamination. Floppy disks would just die for no reason, hard drives would crash after a few years. Solid state like Compact Flash, MMC and SD were fairly solid but would die on you. Zip drives would fuck up randomly and like someone said up thread if they got the click of death they would ruin your reader as well. MDs were fairly solid I only remember one or two dying on me with heavy use. Never did get ahold of a DAT player and no one even tried making a consumer one. I remember one of the first makers of MP3-players got sued for "supporting" piracy. The first few MP3-player were made by noname companies due to the litigation risk. No big name players would brave one for the first couple of generations. I think Sony was one of the first established companies pushing their proprietary memory sticks and codecs and the second one was apple with proprietary codecs and software. In between were a multitude of noname companies which had better usability because as soon as the USB standard came out they would just act as a disk drive.
 
I remember when a cell phone weighed like 20 pounds and had a giant lead-acid battery and you needed an antenna on top of your car to use it.
 
Attempt Turd said:
The thing is all formats were kind of fussy back then. All tapes got worn out and might get unravelled by a player. CDs would get scratched or died from ni visible reason, probably delamination. Floppy disks would just die for no reason, hard drives would crash after a few years. Solid state like Compact Flash, MMC and SD were fairly solid but would die on you. Zip drives would fuck up randomly and like someone said up thread if they got the click of death they would ruin your reader as well. MDs were fairly solid I only remember one or two dying on me with heavy use. Never did get ahold of a DAT player and no one even tried making a consumer one. I remember one of the first makers of MP3-players got sued for "supporting" piracy. The first few MP3-player were made by noname companies due to the litigation risk. No big name players would brave one for the first couple of generations. I think Sony was one of the first established companies pushing their proprietary memory sticks and codecs and the second one was apple with proprietary codecs and software. In between were a multitude of noname companies which had better usability because as soon as the USB standard came out they would just act as a disk drive.
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MDs were good as long as you NEVER moved them while they wrote
if you could record on them while running around they might have had a better chance
but yeah zipdiscs were supposedly dodgy
but I mean like, DAT was notorious for warping if you left it in the car for any length of time and was reputed to be much fussier than was normal in consumer products, like how betamax supposedly was more finicky than vhs
 
I was talking to some random about one of my hobbies today.

ME: "Yeah, I've been doing this a while. I got started in 2007 when I was-"

HIM: "Fuuuuuuck, you've been in this longer than I've been alive!"

I can't remember when I last had a stronger urge to curl into the foetal position and weep...
 
Another RIP. I'm on a tear.

Scrapped out my Subaru. Hasn't run in 3 years- Tired of replacing the $2k double exhaust system. Engine locked up too.
Sat in the driveway peacefully without leaking a drop of any fluid, certain that this weekend I was gonna get her running.
The only issue was door seals - every one of them leaked, allowing mildew/mold

2002 DOM - bought used in 2004, 230k miles. Got $350 from the wrecker.
 
Attempt Turd said:
The thing is all formats were kind of fussy back then. All tapes got worn out and might get unravelled by a player. CDs would get scratched or died from ni visible reason, probably delamination. Floppy disks would just die for no reason, hard drives would crash after a few years. Solid state like Compact Flash, MMC and SD were fairly solid but would die on you. Zip drives would fuck up randomly and like someone said up thread if they got the click of death they would ruin your reader as well.
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Jaz drives were worse. More storage but completely unreliable. And if you dropped one of the discs it was finished. Also had the click of death but worse.
 
I used to have music videos playing in the background when I would get ready for school in the morning. Having the local news would be handy when there's snow in the forecast and you're watching the school closing ticker go through.
 
AnOminous said:
I remember when a cell phone weighed like 20 pounds and had a giant lead-acid battery and you needed an antenna on top of your car to use it.
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I remember when pages (Teletrim in my country) were all the rage between doctors. Mom had one, i'd fuck around with it when she took me to work and i had to entertain myself somehow at the waiting room
 
Orange Rhymer said:
Another RIP. I'm on a tear.

Scrapped out my Subaru. Hasn't run in 3 years- Tired of replacing the $2k double exhaust system. Engine locked up too.
Sat in the driveway peacefully without leaking a drop of any fluid, certain that this weekend I was gonna get her running.
The only issue was door seals - every one of them leaked, allowing mildew/mold

2002 DOM - bought used in 2004, 230k miles. Got $350 from the wrecker.
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Condolences! 02 was like, the last decent looking year too. Always, always, ALWAYS check on long term projects that may be prone to rubber failing. I'm ever-lucky to have all 3 of my cars in mechanically sound order and in a garage.
 
souschef said:
I remember when pages (Teletrim in my country) were all the rage between doctors. Mom had one, i'd fuck around with it when she took me to work and i had to entertain myself somehow at the waiting room
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I had one of those. A Motorola. A computer touching job where I had to be on call 24/7. Paid well but that shit sucked and I'd never do it again.
 
The Last Stand said:
I used to have music videos playing in the background when I would get ready for school in the morning. Having the local news would be handy when there's snow in the forecast and you're watching the school closing ticker go through.
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MTV playing in the background in the mornings was how I saw my first Tool music video.
 
The Last Stand said:
I used to have music videos playing in the background when I would get ready for school in the morning.
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Remember when music videos had initial releases that were advertised as an event, with a scheduled broadcast date and time? The last one I can remember caring about was Scream with Michael and Janet Jackson in the 90s, but I'm sure they must have kept going after that for at least a while into the 2000s.
 
strumpets exeunt said:
The last one I can remember caring about was Scream with Michael and Janet Jackson in the 90s, but I'm sure they must have kept going after that for at least a while into the 2000s.
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The first of those I can remember was Michael Jackson's Thriller, which was a huge event at the time. I believe it was on Friday Night Videos when I saw it, but might have aired on MTV first. It was directed by John Landis and the song had Vincent Price on it.
 
strumpets exeunt said:
Remember when music videos had initial releases that were advertised as an event, with a scheduled broadcast date and time?
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I remember Michael Jackson's Thriller, and especially Peter Gabriel's videos, we all ran for the tv when his videos had their debut. Nothing else like them.
 
What doesn't make me feel old is how little technology has changed since I was a little kid, aside from electronics.

I imagine if I was born in 1900 and it was Great Depression now, I would've seen quite a lot of change and felt old.
 
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