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Should be a wild four years.

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But must also ask this - what did 'they' hope to gain if this act had succeeded? You would have JD Vance in office, and backed by a wave of sympathy, he'd really turn law enforcement loose on these cocksuckers. A President Vance would likely continue President Trump's policies, and a President Vance would be elected on his own in 28.
Let's not over think it. 'They' tried to naruto run past the Secret Service. His plan was to rush the level and then cap the boss monster before all of the guardians could spawn. What happens afterwards? He wins the game of course.
 
I think there's a serious case to be made that Jimmy Kimmel is spreading discredited and disproven conspiracy theories about these mass shootings all being false flags. Moreover, it's abundantly clear that Jimmy Kimmel is spreading this discredited and disproven conspiracy theories maliciously, in order to financially benefit from the murders and the traumatization of onlookers and next-of-kin. He is doing this willfully in order to maximize the harm caused to the victims. Innocent people are dying and being traumatized and retraumatized by the horrors of left-wing terrorist mass shooters, and he's calling the victims and perpetrators paid actors.

This is settled legal theory: any serious court would agree he owes the victims and their families, even the people who were present but physically unharmed, hundreds of billions of dollars, and I think Alex Jones should be legally given his show and platform to do with as he pleases.
 
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What I don't get are the people who want Trump to get killed. If Trump is assassinated, it only proves his point that Democrats are violent. The Democrats have two options in such an event:
  1. Bite their tongues, do the polite "we disagreed but he was our president" death revisionism like our country does for every president, condemn political violence, and eat all the shit served to them by GOP politicians and pundits about enabling the assassination; or
  2. Go full mask off and gravedance, which will push away independents and any remaining moderates.
They will never opt for #1. They want Trump dead. They openly celebrate every assassination attempt (or call it "staged," i.e. downplay failures so more losers will keep trying). They encourage this behavior. They will continue to encourage it until Trump is dead and his supporters are branded terrorists, criminals, and fugitives. For all their screeching about "right-wing death squads," they literally want death squads to round up and kill right-wingers and they're not afraid to say it.

The correct reaction (by any politician or political party) to this kind of event is immediate, firm, resounding condemnation, calls for civility, and olive branches offered (however insincere) to the target if he was a political opponent. Always. Without delay. There is no other "correct" reaction by any legitimate political entity that genuinely does not want "political assassination" to be the order of the day. That the democrats did not respond with any of that is conclusive proof they openly endorse it. There is a non-zero chance a high-ranking Democrat official will make a deeply offensive and outrageous remark to the effect of "meh, he deserved it, shame the guy missed" and not suffer consequences within his own party, among his supporters, and more importantly from law enforcement itself (which is another major problem that needs more direct intervention).

Remember -- there was an old skit on Saturday Night Live back in the mid-90's about where the feds draw the line about threatening to kill the president. They tip-toed around it (and part of what made it funny was how genuinely worried some of them seemed to be about saying "I'm going to kill the president" on national television even in the most obvious of comedic contexts). The show runner famously contacted the Secret Service and FBI in advance of airing the sketch to advise them that yes, it was actually only a joke, and even sought feedback from them to ensure nobody got any "unexpected visitors in nice suits" the following morning at home or at the office.

That is to say, comedians on a comedy program with obvious visual and verbal disclaimers indicating they're really joking and not serious, protected by very strong First Amendment protections both as citizens and members of the press, were still legitimately worried about jokingly saying (with shit-eating nervous grins) "I'm going to kill the president" on national TV.

Today they all feel comfortable saying "damn, real shame the guy missed" and "oh that was just staged." Imagine SNL doing a skit about the assassination attempt today. It'd be nothing but Trump insults (explaining why he deserves death) and either glazing this dumbass for trying to kill Trump or mocking him for failing.

That's fucked up. People should be shot for this open treason, but it's not happening. People should be utterly terrified of being thrown in prison for decades for making terrorist threats, but they're not because the government isn't threatening to do it (which is the worst part about this). Courts should be tied up for years processing people for openly criticizing Trump's would-be assassins for failing in their task.

it will be interesting if the Dems try to reel it in
They won't. See above.

This guy was a teacher, and his "manifesto" reads like a power point bulletin slide show.
He probably used ChatGPT to write it, and it probably proposed a powerpoint. I wouldn't be surprised if he imagined himself presenting this manifesto to an appreciative live audience (obviously celebrating his success) in powerpoint form at a huge venue celebrating the end of tyranny.

He's going to experience what the people arrested for January 6th got to experience too. Made all the sweeter because you know he felt those people deserved it.
The shooter's going to prison for life.
instead they're going to spend the next 20 years of their life in a SuperMax and get to see their family disown them in real time.
There aren't enough rainbows. Didn't the DC Metro police announce they're only charging this faggot with having a firearm in a government building or something stupid? He's already getting the kid gloves treatment. There's a guaranteed tenured position waiting for him at Caltech for this. The likelihood of our corrupted justice system actually punishing this asshole is nonexistent. I have no confidence he'll experience anything worse than a canker sore and a short stay in jail. There are too many crooked people within the system (especially judges) eager to see Trump dead who will let this asshole walk.

This is something the doomers should actually cling to. Trump should be out for blood right now. The Republican party should be preparing (in perfect lock-step, no dissenters) immediate action at all levels and within all organizations they control to dismantle the Democratic party for this shit, dismantle the current academia system for churning out faggots like this failed assassin, and destroying the remaining technological strongholds allowing this violent belief system to flourish (BlueSky, reddit, Youtube, all broadcast media, social media, all of it). The Republican party should also be removing, ejecting, impeaching, firing, ruining, destroying, imprisoning, etc., any politician (of any affiliation, including Republican) for opposing such actions as enemies of the state. Actual enemies of the state. Because that's what they are.

The DOJ should be neutralizing NGOs and political non-profits of all kinds by arresting executives and lawyers, freezing bank accounts, seizing assets, halting federal funding of all NGOs (globally). I'd say "even the innocent ones" but I think we all know there aren't any. Simply temporarily "stalling" NGOs for a few weeks by tying them up in court will near-instantly disrupt a FUCKTON of subversive scheming and terrorism. Even if every NGO wins its "freedom" and proves its "innocent," the delays alone will destroy decades-old schemes. Look at what killing USAID did. Just one shutdown fucked countless evil schemes (and likely directly led to this escalation of violence).

The entire government should be tiptoeing right up to the line of "actually engaging in tyranny" to clamp down on this civilization-destroying behavior. It won't stop with Trump or Vance, even if the left is eventually successful in assassinating political leadership like we're doing in Iran. Political assassination will become the norm very quickly in the absence of swift, vicious retribution, and no politician will be safe no matter which party they belong to. Democrats won't be safe either, even from themselves. Simply being a momentary inconvenience to some ambitious asshole will result in a $5k hit, and if we have a government that's as "tolerant" of the behavior as this one seems to be about attempts on Trump's like, there won't be any serious repercussions. Political success will depend entirely on how much of an army you can privately fund to protect you and kill your enemies.

I'm saying we should be scrambling really fucking hard not to become Rome v2.0.
 
Their hatred of Jews is based on their love of Muslims which is based on their hatred of White Anglo-Saxon Protestants. Their love of conspiracy theories is based on their partisan denial of reality.

We are not the same.

Conspiracy culture used to honestly be cool, grandiose, and genuinely fucking nerve-wracking. Unfortunately, ain't no one losing sleep over the goddamn New World Order, the 12 Families, Freemasonry being Judaism for the goyim, Powers and Principalities commanding demons to dwell within master records, the ground up and processed corpses of trafficked children being made into McDonald's meat, Monsanto's patented GMO seed shenanigans, or any of that nonsense... nope. Apparently we have schizo freaks like Kerry Cassidy and Candace Owens communing with the dead, and the festering cesspools of mental illness that modern social media's become.
 
Do they actually think the attacks were staged or is that just a "well, it looks better for my side if I pretend to believe this" thing?
Probably pretending. When Charlie Kirk got killed there was an immediate onslaught of "The right is more violent, the right is the one that kills people" rhetoric with articles and historical statistics to back it up, nevermind the fact that it was a right-wing debater friendly with the MAGA crowd killed in fucking Utah. It was an immediate blame game and it's happening again to control the narrative, even though this time there's far less wiggle room to create a narrative of the truth.
Three narratives I've seen pushed:
1. This was for a bump in ratings
2. This was for the ballroom
3. It's a distraction from Iran and Epstein (the eternal talking point)
None of them attempt to explain why a California Democrat 30 year old would potentially die for a ballroom for Trump. It's all noise.
 
Trump went on 60 Minutes tonight and talked about the assassination attempt:


Trump "wasn't worried" during White House Correspondents' Dinner shooting​

By Norah O'Donnell, Maria Gavrilovic, Keith Sharman
April 26, 2026 / 7:00 PM EDT / CBS News

Last night in the nation's capitol a gunman stormed the security perimeter at the White House Correspondents; Dinner. The president, the first lady, the vice president, cabinet members, and more than 2,500 guests were gathered to celebrate the First Amendment and freedom of the press. But after shots were fired, the president was evacuated.

It was at the same hotel where President Ronald Reagan was nearly assassinated by John Hinckley, 45 years ago.

Tonight, federal investigators are looking into the motive of the alleged gunman -- a 31-year old teacher from Torrance, California.

He emailed what a senior official called a "manifesto" to his family, minutes before the attack. He wrote he was targeting members of the Trump administration.

We spoke with President Trump this afternoon at the White House about what happened.

Norah O'Donnell: Mr. President, do you know if you were the target of the gunman?

President Trump: I don't know. It sounded-- to me. I read a manifesto, which is-- he's radicalized. He was a Christian-- believer, and then he became an anti-Christian, and he had a lotta change. He's been goin' through a lot, based on what he wrote. His brother complained about him and I think reported him to the police. And his sister, likewise, complained about him. His family-- was very concerned. He was-- probably a pretty sick guy.

Norah O'Donnell: I was in the room not far from you, Mr. President. Could hear what sounded like gunshots or commotion. People nearby could smell the gun powder. Everybody hit the floor. How worried were you that there were gonna be injuries?

President Trump: I wasn't worried. I understand life. We live in a crazy world.

Norah O'Donnell: You are sitting there next to the first lady. The entertainer named Oz Pearlman is talking to you. He's known as The Mentalist. When did you know something was wrong?

President Trump: Right around that point. In fact, you can see the expression on the first lady's-- face. And your president of the evening, chairman, or president, or both, who was doing a great job, by the way--

Norah O'Donnell: Weijia Jiang, CBS News--

President Trump: --Your-- your associate, yeah. She was a terrific person. They were asking the name of Karoline's child, that he didn't know, I guess. But he was able to get it.

Norah O'Donnell: Your press secretary is expecting and-- he was trying to guess the baby's--

President Trump: That's right.

Norah O'Donnell: --name.

President Trump: That's right.

Norah O'Donnell: You mentioned the first lady, her face. She looked very alarmed.

President Trump: She was--

Norah O'Donnell: Was she scared?

President Trump: Well, I don't wanna say, and people don't like having it said that they were scared. But certainly, I mean, who wouldn't be when you have a situation like that? By that time I think she realized ahead of time that that was more of a bullet than it was a tray. And she was-- I-- I looked at her face just a little while ago before I came. I saw the scene. They played it for me and, you know, pretty good closeup. And-- she looked-- very upset about what just took place, you know? Why not?

Norah O'Donnell: You see the security moving quickly, within seconds, grabbing the vice president by his coat, lifting him up, bringing him out. Then the counter assault comes in. Took ten seconds for them to flank you, Mr. President, and then 20 seconds to get you out. It looked chaotic. At one point you were down. What was happening?

President Trump: Well, what happened is-- it was a little bit me. I wanted to see what was happening, and I wasn't making it that easy for 'em. I wanted to see what was going on. And by that time we started to realize maybe it was a bad problem, different kind of a problem, bad one. And different than what would be normal noise from a ballroom, which you hear all the time. And-- I was surrounded by great people. And I probably made them act a little bit more slowly. I said, "Wait a minute, wait a minute. Lemme see. Wait a minute." So, you know, I'm telling guys to--

Norah O'Donnell: Just at that moment where it looks like you go sort of down with the Service, you were telling them to wait?

President Trump: Well, no what happened is then I started walking with them. I turned, I started walking, and they said, "Please go down. Please go down on the floor." So I went down and the first lady went down also. But we were asked to go down by the-- agents as I was walking. In other words, I was--

Norah O'Donnell: They wanted you almost to crawl out—

President Trump: I was standing up-- pretty much. I was standing up and then turned around the opposite direction and started pretty much walking out pretty tall, a little bent over because they-- you know, I'm not lookin' to be standing too tall. And-- but I was walking out. I was pretty-- about halfway there when they said, "Please go down to the floor. Please go down to the floor." So I dropped to the floor. So did the first lady.

Norah O'Donnell: What was your thought at that moment? What did the first lady say?

President Trump: Well, my thought was, "You know, I've been through this before a couple of times." And-- she has not to this extent. She handled it great. I mean, she was-- she's-- very strong, smart. She got it. She knew what was happening. She listened. I did too, by the way,

Norah O'Donnell: Because this was the first time–

President Trump: When-- when they said-- you know, when they said, "Drop down," that meant trouble. And obviously I'm the president, and I listened to what they said, "Please drop down. Sir, please drop down." So I wa-- was walking halfway and then I dropped down at the f-- final because we had a little ways to go where you're exposed to the ballroom, surroundings. And-- then I got up and we went to a hold room for a while and I tried to get them to continue the event, if possible.

Norah O'Donnell: You wanted to go back in.

President Trump: I did. I really did.

Norah O'Donnell: You can see the gunman running through the metal detectors. And he fired off one or two rounds.

President Trump: Yeah. His speed was rather incredible, actually. It was-- he was like a blur.

Norah O'Donnell: How did he get that close--

President Trump: Well--

Norah O'Donnell: --With the place swarming with security?

President Trump: I will say-- I-- I say it because I'm a big fan of the people, of law enforcement. And, you know, some of these people, they may be crazy, but they're not stupid and they figure things out. You know, he ran 45 yards they say, and he just went to it, and then boom, he popped through it. I mean, he ran like-- I think the NFL should sign him up. He was fast. When you look at it on tape, it's almost like a blur. But it was amazing 'cause as soon as they saw that you could see them draw their guns. They were so professional. Aimed their guns, and then they took him down immediately.

Two hours later, the president was back at the White house to brief reporters.

President Trump: I saw a room that was just totally unified. It was, in one way, very beautiful….


Norah O'Donnell: Do you think this will change your relationship with the press?

President Trump: Well, look, for whatever reason, we disagree on a lot of subjects. We-- we talk about crime. I'm very strong on crime -- it seems like the press isn't. It's not so much the press, it's the press plus the Democrats because they're almost one in the same. It's, like, the craziest thing. I have the strongest border we've ever had in the country where, as you know, it-- it's at zero people for nine months came into our country through our southern border. We have a very tough border.

Norah O'Donnell: The so-called manifesto is a stunning thing to read, Mr. President. He appears to reference a motive in it. He writes this quote, "Administration officials, they are targets." And he also wrote this, "I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes." What's your reaction to that?

President Trump: Well, I was waiting for you to read that because I knew you would because you're-- you're he-- you're horrible people. Horrible people. Yeah, he did write that. I'm-- I'm not a rapist. I didn't rape anybody.

Norah O'Donnell: Oh you think-- do you think he was referring to you?

President Trump: I'm not a pedophile. Excuse me. Excuse me. I'm not a pedophile. You read that crap from some sick person? I got associated with all-- stuff that has nothing to do with me. I was totally exonerated. Your friends on the other side of the plate are the ones that were involved with, lets say, Epstein or other things. But I said to myself, "You know, I'll do this interview and they'll probably"-- I read the manifesto. You know, he's a sick person. But you should be ashamed of yourself reading that because I'm not any of those things.

Norah O'Donnell: Mr. President these are the gunman's words –

President Trump: And I was never-- excuse me. Excuse me. You shouldn't be reading that on 60 Minutes. You're a disgrace. But go ahead. Let's finish the interview.

Norah O'Donnell: The other thing that he wrote, in the--

President Trump: You-- you're disgraceful.

Norah O'Donnell: The other thing in the manifesto that I think is worth looking at in terms of determining his motive, is he had been staying at the hotel since Friday. He checked in, he said he had cased the place, and he wrote, "What the hell is the Secret Service doing?" And he wrote this quote, "I expected security cameras at every bend, bugged hotel rooms, armed agents every ten feet, metal detectors out the wazoo. What I got is nothing." He wrote, "Like, this level of incompetence is insane." Sir, you have already had two attempted--

President Trump: Well, he was pretty incompetent too, because he got caught. And he got caught pretty easily. So I'd say he was pretty incompetent too. You know, I can take any event having to do with security or anything else. I-- I can always find fault. Those guys did a good job last night. They did a really good job.

Norah O'Donnell: I mention that because, again, his m-- his motive. You brought this up. He had social media accounts that had anti-Trump and anti-Christian rhetoric.

President Trump: You should read-- why don't you read all the anti-Trump? Why don't you read it? You just did, so why don't you read it?

Norah O'Donnell: Well, he had a lot of anti-Christian rhetoric. He had-- he was part of a group called the Wide Awakes. He had attended a No Kings protest in California.

President Trump: No Kings, yeah.

Norah O'Donnell: What did security tell you about what may have been his motives?

President Trump: Well, see, they-- the part-- the reason you have people like that is you have people doing No Kings. I'm not a king. What I am-- if I was a king I wouldn't be dealing with you.

Norah O'Donnell: Also at the dinner last night was your Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. His sister, Kerry Kennedy was there. They've both witnessed their father and their uncle be assassinated.

President Trump: That's right.

Norah O'Donnell: Erika Kirk was there. The House Majority Leader Steve Scalise was there. Political violence has touched so many people in that room. Is there something that you as president can do? What can be done to change the trajectory?

President Trump: Well, you know, you go back 20 years, 40 years, 100 years, 200 years, 500 years, it's always been there. People are assassinated. People are injured. People are hurt. And I'm not sure that it's any more now than there was. I do think that the hate speech of the Democrats much more so is-- is very dangerous. I really think it's very dangerous for the country.

President Trump told us he hopes to move events like last night's press gala to the new East Wing ballroom that he says is ahead of schedule though it won't be ready until 2028. But he wants last night's dinner to be rescheduled much sooner than that.

Norah O'Donnell: You are committed to doing this event with the White House Correspondents Dinner, it's about freedom of the press.

President Trump: I want them, because I don't want to see it be canceled. I don't want to have a crazy person-- I think it's really bad for a crazy person to be able to cancel something like this. There are great people in the press too I can name, but I don't want to-- I don't want to embarrass your show. We have some great people in the press, some very fair people, and people that are just on my side. But for the most part, it's a very liberal or very progressive-- let's use the word liberal. Liberal press. But-- I was just really-- I was really happy to see the-- the-- I don't know how long it'll last-- the relationship, the friendship, the spirit after a very bad event took place. Now, the event turned out to be much less bad because nobody was killed. Nobody was hurt. The Secret Service agent-- had-- I spoke to him. He had-- a bulletproof vest on. Unbelievable.

Norah O'Donnell: He's OK?

President Trump: Oh, he's a hundred percent. Yeah, no. He was a hundred perc-- he didn't want to go to the hospital. He really didn't. They asked him to go, and they-- he said-- he didn't want to go. He said, "I don't need to go to the hospital." But he went because they asked him to go.

Norah O'Donnell: Well, I know the White House Correspondents' Association very much appreciates you going last night and honoring a commitment to do it again.

President Trump: I hope we're going to do it again. Norah, tell 'em to get it going, and we should do it within 30 days, and they'll have even more security, and they'll have bigger perimeter security. It'll be fine. But tell 'em to do it again. We can't let something be-- it's not that I wanna go. It's no-- I ha-- I'm very busy. I don't need that. I think it's very important that they do it again.
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People keep calling this guy a teacher he worked for a tutoring company you go there when you fail to become a teacher he has no degree in teaching.
Fucking THANK YOU!
By the way, I do not want to power level, but I know someone who was coworkers with this retard at C2. I sent his picture to my friend with no other context and my friend goes, "oh my gosh, it's Cole!" My friend had nothing good but also nothing bad to say about him, just that he was very liberal, but a competitive math tutor. My friend left C2 some time ago so maybe someone has better info. My friend also told me that image of him as teacher of the month or whatever only went out to C2 employee emails, so a C2 employee with access to their email had to post it. They deny it went on Instagram.
My friend was like, "really? Cole? Well he was that liberal, so it makes sense." They don't think it was a false flag.
 

This is an interesting clip about the security around this event and that it was absolute dogshit because these “journalists” know what it should be. One thing I left off this was another one talking about the ticket just being a paper ticket and no one ever asked her for ID and there wasn’t any kind of unique QR or anything on the tickets to even verify the person holding it was a legitimate guest.
 
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