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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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spread happiness@p4leandp1nk
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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

rather than the toilet and women.

God forbid a man have a hobby!

 

[diroama]

Facebook has changed a lot in the last few months. Until recently I just used it to keep up with local news: people moaning about barking dogs, inconsiderate parking or asking if the scrap man was doing the rounds.

Now I'm presented with short videos they call "reels" showing underdressed young women dancing around provocatively.

It doesn't matter how many times I tap on them to clear them I just keep getting more and more. It's extremely distracting.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

**do not say don’t you have your own pole… do not say it do not say it..**

No it's practically impossible to have a boner while shitting. You either end up rubbing it on the inside of the toilet (gross) or pissing on the floor. There simply is not room.

Now I'm presented with short videos they call "reels" showing underdressed young women dancing around provocatively.

There was a pretty big problem a year or two ago where people were posting just straight up porn and because all the fucking jeets and shit saw vagina it got a load of likes and got pushed to a load of people. Just scrolling through the homepage and suddenly a 'we think you'd like' post and it's literally just a naked woman.

The thing with saying 'do not recommend' is that that act is still engagement. Facebook has no morals so more engagement is more good. Remember this is the company that conducted studies to figure out what pisses people off most and how much extra engagement they can get from it. They knew that they could get more engagement if they made people feel worse and then decided that instead of doing what is morally correct they did what made them the most money. If you only engage with their platform by saying 'less of this' and not 'more of this other thing' then they're just going to show you the same shit over and over again. There's no obligation or anything for them to actually show less of that.

 

[Otterly]

No it's practically impossible to have a boner while shitting. You either end up rubbing it on the inside of the toilet (gross) or pissing on the floor. There simply is not room.

The more you know…
Are you a birder? I used to hang out with a bunch while doing fieldwork and they were nice. Nature autist. Did some mist netting and ringing for them in exchange for samples for a while as a student.

 

[SirCliveSinclairdabbing]

If we're going to get into silly what ifs we might as well say that any attack would result in nukes dropping on Buenos Aires.

Shoulda done this the first time

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Are you a birder?

Nah I'm just a 'throw some birdfood in the garden and watch' and a 'there are a lot of wood scraps at work that could make a birdbox with a bit of effort' type of person. If I ever go in some foresty type nature place it's with the dog and there's no way she'd want to just wait around looking for birds and I don't think I would either really. We just live rurally enough to have a fair variety of birds in the garden.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Shoulda done this the first time

But then we'd have blown up the English Tower and a bunch of interesting railway stuff, and there'd be no Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe, because there'd be no Recoleta cemetery to act as a backdrop for the inquisitors.

Did you know most of the argentinian rail network in buenos aires state was built by British railway companies? A lot of the stations still have LNER-styled station canopies and architecture. Trippy. Much of it was also sold off to British investors at the turn of the 20th century, which became one of the justifications for anti-British sentiment in the 20s and 70s. This means there's a non-zero chance the falklands invasion happened because a train was delayed.

 

[Snekposter]

There are times like today when I'm outside a bunch and question why I moved to the US (or at least to Texas), then I get to go back inside and remember that aircon is possibly the greatest thing humans ever invented
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Ah, I see summer has started to come to Texas. We're probably going to get that soon ourselves here up in Oregon considering we had a short winter and an early spring.

This means there's a non-zero chance the falklands invasion happened because a train was delayed.

Well, that's a terrible casus belli. I mean, if going to war because an English train was late was justifiable I'm surprised London hasn't gotten the Boudicca treatment several times a year.

Now, granted, it probably needs that regularly done anyways on general principles alone given what a shithole it is, but still...

 

[The Green Man]

At least labour acknowledge it.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

It's getting too hot here as well, to join in the weather sperging.

Hannah Spencer, Green MP, complains about the smell of booze inbetween votes. This, I agree with, as the womens safety MP Jess Phillips has been visibly drunk multiple times on camera and at the dispatch box. However, Hannah's party wants to legalise GHB and crystal. So is a cheeky pipe toke okay between votes?
The Greens drug/cigarettes policy is purely 'fuck my parents' policy. Crack, meth, weed, shrooms, all okay; but those nasty cigarette companies are too exploitative and predatory so ban cigarettes. Ignore the massacre of Amazonian peoples to make cocaine, pregnant women being used as drug mules, the exploitation and ruination of the working classes with hard drugs, kids being used in county lines gangs... it's so yuppie.

 

[Clem Fandango]

The more you know…
Are you a birder? I used to hang out with a bunch while doing fieldwork and they were nice. Nature autist. Did some mist netting and ringing for them in exchange for samples for a while as a student.

I was once told by a bird enthusiast that the nature autists are "Twitchers", while the normal people are "Birders".

I'm not sure if this distinction in terminology is universal, but he was quite offended when I asked if he was a twitcher. He said those people were anoraks, obsessed with ticking boxes on their "birds spotted" cards. More like train spotters.

 

[Jimmy Dean Bowl]

I was once told by a bird enthusiast that the nature autists are "Twitchers", while the normal people are "Birders".

I'm not sure if this distinction in terminology is universal, but he was quite offended when I asked if he was a twitcher. He said those people were anoraks, obsessed with ticking boxes on their "birds spotted" cards. More like train spotters.

The cuckoo just arrived where I live and I'm demented already by the 5am calls. The twitchers are very pleased though.

 

[Otterly]

I was once told by a bird enthusiast that the nature autists are "Twitchers", while the normal people are "Birders".

I'm not sure if this distinction in terminology is universal, but he was quite offended when I asked if he was a twitcher. He said those people were anoraks, obsessed with ticking boxes on their "birds spotted" cards. More like train spotters.

While I love birds and have a garden full of them (33 species and counting!) I’m not a spotter type. I just like watching them.
One of our student modules a million years ago required fieldwork and specific population monitoring work so I volunteered with some local birders and spent several weeks out well before dawn in a particularly lovely bit of ancient woodland, mist netting to see what was there and ringing stuff. There were also dormice to monitor, and they were beyond cute.
It was a nice summer. I got bitten by every mosquito in England, which was less fun, but it was delightful. I was also sternly told that birders are the real maccoy. But really, spending your days climbing trees and finding tiny dormice isn’t the worst is it?

 

[ApeBass]

While I love birds and have a garden full of them (33 species and counting!) I’m not a spotter type. I just like watching them.

Do you do anything to encourage more species or have you always had a diverse and inclusive garden?
My husband is fond of our local raven population and has been feeding them while trying to train them to respond to a whistle. As impressive as they are, they do act like big, black thugs and I wonder if we don't see so many other birds because of them.

Is it just me who remembers seeing loads of blue tits 20 years ago in areas where they've now vanished? Where did the blue tit go?

 

[Otterly]

Do you do anything to encourage more species or have you always had a diverse and inclusive garden?

I put tallow balls out, but mainly it’s just am edge of the suburbs garden with a woodland nearby so they’re here anyway.
Ravens can’t grip perch (there’s probably a name for it, I mean like being able to hang into a wife feeder and peck food from it) on small feeders so you can feed them separately from the small birds. A regular wire feeder will do just separate from where you feed rhe ravens. Love ravens, so cool your husband is befriending them!

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

I put tallow balls out,

I put out these suet coconut halves and seeds (morrisons) and only the pigeons come. The ravens (or crows?) only appear if I toss out bacon scraps and bread soaked in fat, they have gourmet taste :/ I can't quite get them to like me despite feeding them every day. The downstairs neighbour complained that she was ""allergic to pigeons"" so i should stop feeding them. Joyless cunt, take an antihistamine.

 

[Otterly]

I put out these suet coconut halves and seeds (morrisons) and only the pigeons come. The ravens (or crows?) only appear if I toss out bacon scraps and bread soaked in fat, they have gourmet taste :/ I can't quite get them to like me despite feeding them every day. The downstairs neighbour complained that she was ""allergic to pigeons"" so i should stop feeding them. Joyless cunt, take an antihistamine.

Tell her that crows are hypoallergenic or something…
Yeah crows like meat. They’re scavengers. They love bacon rinds or the fat from the pan cooled and left out. They will recognise you even if they’re not overtly friendly. Don’t piss the crows off, they hold a grudge through generations.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Is it just me who remembers seeing loads of blue tits 20 years ago in areas where they've now vanished? Where did the blue tit go?

Sweden. Saw loads of them over there over christmas.

 

[EddyRooney]

Time to make a stand or s selfish old man ?

A farmer is refusing to move from his home next door to a planned new village to be built on green belt land.

Alan French has lived on his farm in Godley near Hyde, Tameside, for 17 years and the land around him is being bought up so 2,150 houses can be constructed.

The 76-year-old moved to Far Meadow Farm after being forced out of two previous homes due to compulsory purchase orders (CPOs) for developments and said this time he is "not moving".

The 15-year building scheme, known as the Godley Green Garden Village, has the backing of the Tameside Council leader who claimed it will "create a natural, representative community from the outset".

The farmer said: "Every time I move somewhere developers want it.

"I'm 76 now and I think by the time it all gets going and they build from the other end, I shall probably have died by then. But just for spite I'm not going to.

"This is no longer a rural place. It's going to get worse if they get their way."

Planning permission was granted last month and French's neighbours have had CPOs issued to them.

Thousands of residents objected to the development by Tameside Council and MADE partnership – a joint venture between Barratt Redrow PLC, Homes England and Lloyds Banking Group.

Council leader Eleanor Wills said the development "has been thought through very carefully".

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"create a natural, representative community from the outset" - So is it being built for the indigenous young, struggling to get on the property ladder ( I wonder why ? Can anyone join the supply and demand dots.....not on the BBC ) or is it being built for 10,000 of our little brown invaders friends ?

"This is no longer a rural place. It's going to get worse if they get their way." - This is the sentiment of many people who can remember as far back as the 90s. I don't know what it's like up North, but I fear for down here as so much greenbelt land is being built on. It is getting to the stage where something needs to be done. It seems that no politician is prepared to listen to local people. What to do........

List your traitors...."a joint venture between Barratt Redrow PLC, Homes England and Lloyds Banking Group" facilitated by Labour's Emily Wills.

Progress is an ever increasing population, less green land, more multiculturalism, less national identity and tradition. In other words, the easy path for politicians.
The hard path is a stable population of indigenous people, more green land, food and power sustainability, more national identity, a high trust culture and economic growth achieved by increased productivity.

white shores and beyond them a far green country under a swift sunrise

 

[BongoMongo]

To get in on the bird related autism, have the swifts come back for anyone yet? Our mam always used to get this diary/ household book from the milkman every year (imaginatively called The Dairy Diary) and she should mark the day they returned every year.

We're in Norf FC and no sign of them yet. Sitting on the deck of an evening hearing them is one of my simple and most lovely joys.