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Cranjis McBasketball said:
That thread is overwhelmingly anti-Trump, they're just gonna post that one picture of Trump and Epstein and say "of course he did they were best friends". I wanted to see what a more pro-Trump group would say about the whole situation. It seems like everyone on the internet, from 4chan, to Reddit, to random YouTube comments thinks he's a kid diddler (I know all those places are overwhelmingly filled with retards, but still, that's a big chunk of the internet) and I've never heard a comprehensive explanation of the situation from the Trump side.
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I think the consensus in this thread is that it's a retarded and/or absurd claim without any proof (there's plenty of mails from Epstein ranting about Trump, but they're all negative), so I think most people here view any discussion of it as attempts at trolling.
 
Mister Fister said:
Relicts of when kiwifarms was left wing. A lot of those are oldfags as well.
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People forget how much of pre-farms and early farms lolcow culture was just screeching that you hoped someone broke into 14 Branchland Court and killed everyone there because Chris made a joke about Obama painting the white house black, and maybe he heard it from Bob louder than the other guys who were screeching similar things.
 
Jace on ice said:
Even in the tight job market I doubt a guy with a BS in computer science and an MS in engineering had no other options but to work in a strip mall kiosk for $15 an hour.

I'll bet when the anecdotes from people who knew him start coming out they'll all say he was weird and off putting as fuck.
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Outside of outsourcing contexts, a lot of tech organizations try pretty hard not to hire retards, especially the ones that pay well, primarily because if you just wanted a warm body you'd already have outsourced the position.
 
Cranjis McBasketball said:
That thread is overwhelmingly anti-Trump, they're just gonna post that one picture of Trump and Epstein and say "of course he did they were best friends". I wanted to see what a more pro-Trump group would say about the whole situation. It seems like everyone on the internet, from 4chan, to Reddit, to random YouTube comments thinks he's a kid diddler (I know all those places are overwhelmingly filled with retards, but still, that's a big chunk of the internet) and I've never heard a comprehensive explanation of the situation from the Trump side.
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Serious answer: Trump was one of the first people to cut off Epstein, in 2003 I believe, and the prosecutor associated with Epstein’s first case described him as extremely helpful. Most of the emails that mention Trump are full of Epstein seething about him and working with Never Trumpers.
 
Oil exporters scramble for routes beyond Hormuz — but there are no easy options

Unsure if ⏰ , but looks like Iran, whether or not Orange Retard pulls out, is fucked in terms of their oil power. Turns out their autistic sperging early on has permanently burned (blew) up any bridges with the rest of OPEC & adjacent nations. Only allies you can say they still have, is the Forever Buck-broken Russia, and Ultra Paper Tiger Chyna.

lol, lmao even. oil panicans BTFO. at the very least, i dont imagine this to become a quagmire like doomers get hard over thinking about

EDIT: Not to say it's guaranteed Iran will remain perma-raped. Options are still tough, and quite limited. But, corponiggers would rather consistently make money then potentially have their entire operation fucking missile-raped
 
Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0 said:
He was really focused on the pedo thing. Shows how deranged TDS sufferers are...so many of them truly believe those magic Epstein files will prove Trump fucks kids, they are willing to kill for it.
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Just a reminder a few years ago, the same people said the movie Sound of Freedom was a QANON conspiracy movie and they are also the same batch of people who defended Cuties
 
Betonhaus said:
Would the American school system be much, much better if welfare recipients got a welfare bonus for homeschooling their kids?
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We ALREADY have a huge literacy issue and loads of kids that are unable to sit still for 20 minutes. I don't think allowing their mostly uneducated parents to "learn them" is a way to improve things.

How about providing incentives for school attendance, volunteering, part time work? I think that would be more practical/effective.

One example of improper incentives that exist in our welfare system is that aid is not progressive and it is based on hard thresholds. This leads to a situation where if someone makes $19,999/yr they get lots of aid, but add $1 and they make $20,000/yr and they are excluded. This leads to really stupid situations where people turn down a job because they will lose their aid.

Government welfare was never meant to support families through the generations, but that's what it has turned into. There are some people proud that they are freeloaders and even talk about how they are scamming the government for free money. It's pretty sad because they are just sacrificing their own chances for success. Sure, working a minimum wage job isn't glamorous, but hopefully it's just the first link in a chain that takes people to an actual career.
 
Mister Fister said:
The problem is that the current Dems seem to insist on doubling down on gay race communism rather than moderate economic populism.
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The Dems can never be populists because they are thoroughly bought in on managerialism, bureaucracy, and other variants of rule by the (((Chosen))) few. Hell, they even have escape hatches built into their own party to prevent the people from choosing wrong (superdelegates).

You have to appreciate the linguistic sleight of hand that the party lives by: Democracy doesn't mean that the people should rule; it means that an enlightened minority should rule in the name of 'the people' and allegedly for 'the people's' own good.
Gurney Halleck said:
It's a mix of oldfags from when the internet was more organically liberal and more recent redditfugees who know how obnoxious their own kind are to be around but continue to act just like them.
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They are too sane to be fully bought in to reddit, but they love those updoots.
 
Rancid Xylitol said:
We ALREADY have a huge literacy issue and loads of kids that are unable to sit still for 20 minutes. I don't think allowing their mostly uneducated parents to "learn them" is a way to improve things.

How about providing incentives for school attendance, volunteering, part time work? I think that would be more practical/effective.

One example of improper incentives that exist in our welfare system is that aid is not progressive and it is based on hard thresholds. This leads to a situation where if someone makes $19,999/yr they get lots of aid, but add $1 and they make $20,000/yr and they are excluded. This leads to really stupid situations where people turn down a job because they will lose their aid.

Government welfare was never meant to support families through the generations, but that's what it has turned into. There are some people proud that they are freeloaders and even talk about how they are scamming the government for free money. It's pretty sad because they are just sacrificing their own chances for success. Sure, working a minimum wage job isn't glamorous, but hopefully it's just the first link in a chain that takes people to an actual career.
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We should close all the schools, remove child labor laws, and go back to the way things used to be.
 
Rancid Xylitol said:
We ALREADY have a huge literacy issue and loads of kids that are unable to sit still for 20 minutes. I don't think allowing their mostly uneducated parents to "learn them" is a way to improve things.
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I don't think you're disproving the person you're quoting (who's arguing for homeschooling) by showing how hard the public school system has deteriorated.

The statistics over time (for everything from literacy to problem solving) are honestly quite horrific. Doesn't help that "demographic change" seems to be reversing the Flynn effect, of course.
 
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