Gawker attacks life saving technology because abortion

http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/29/g...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

A new breakthrough in medical technology could enable prematurely born infants to survive outside of the womb, greatly improving their chances of survival and reducing risks for mothers unable to reach full term. Naturally, some feminists are upset by the prospects it offers and have tied its development to the end of abortion rights.

The technology, which was unveiled in April, allowed for eight premature lambs to spend four weeks of development in an artificial womb called the Biobag. The lambs survived and have been developing normally.

One would think that such a lifesaving technology, which can potentially save the lives of the 30,000 prematurely born babies each year, would be hailed as a net positive. Not so, argue feminists at Gizmodo who claim that the medical advancement “could also complicate—and even jeopardize—the right to an abortion.”

Speaking to Gizmodo, Harvard Law School bioethicist Glenn Cohen said that the constitutional treatment of abortion was pegged to the viability of a fetus’ survival. “This has the potential to really disrupt things, first by asking the question of whether a fetus could be considered ‘viable’ at the time of abortion if you could place it in an artificial womb.”

“It could wind up being that you only have the right to an abortion up until you can put [a fetus] in the artificial womb,” Cohen told Gizmodo. “It’s terrifying.”
Gizmodo’s Kristen V. Brown takes issue with the possibilities offered by the technology, as a fetus can now be transplanted into an artificial womb instead of being aborted. The technology, if it works on humans, could improve the chances of survival for countless prematurely born infants and drastically reduce the risks to mothers with preexisting medical conditions that make it dangerous for them to give birth. In other words, the artificial womb will make medically necessary late term abortions unnecessary.

“Developing technology also tests the rhetoric surrounding the right to choose,” wrote Brown. “A woman’s right to control her own body is a common legal and ethical argument made in favor of abortion. Under that logic, though, the law could simply compel a woman to put her fetus into an external womb, giving her back control of her own body but still forcing her into parenthood.”

Instead, it’s now a question of whether its existence would deprive a woman of her rights to control her body. In reality, most late-term abortions happen due to medical reasons.

The scientists behind the artificial womb intend to create a version that will work for premature babies born as early as 23 weeks, and hope to test it on human babies within the next five years.

 

[TowinKarz]

It's not human until it can shitpost.

I hear they've almost invented a driverless car that can commit a flawless 2am hit-and-run, we're getting there, baby steps (ha!) baby steps.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

I don't understand what these people want or what it is that they actually do find free of ists and isms. Because everything triggers them to some degree.

See, the problem is, you think these people REEEEE to achieve something. The "being offended" part is its own purpose. It's all about being publically offended, to show off how enlightened you are and to tell others that they have to meet your demands cause it just feels so good to wield power and be validated in this way.

 

[The Great Chandler]

I don't get the "feminist" aspect of abortion. I can get behind reasons like fatal conception, morbid defects, rape, and all that. However, to make a woman power fuss over abortion is pretty insensitive in their part.

 

[BIG DADDY]

If I'm not mistaken, most abortions take place pretty early into the pregnancy, when the fetus is underdeveloped and has no chance of surviving outside the womb- even with an artificial incubator. If I'm not mistaken, it sounds like this artificial womb can only support babies who have reached a certain point of development and are already 6 or so months old. So I don't see how this could impact abortion rights, considering that late-term abortions are a rarity that are usually done for medical reasons. In fact, don't most pro-choice activists stress that when defending abortion?

Most do but there's still a pretty significant amount that go up to 19-22 weeks, for whatever reason. And the technology won't remain stagnant ostensibly, meaning it will likely be able to keep fetuses alive earlier and earlier potentially.

Anyway it sounds like it's a great technology and will do some good in the world.

 

[Male Idiot]

We only need to wait until women can donate eggs to sperm banks like men, and we will have this forum's future secure knowing that Crystal is on her way!

 

[frozenrunner]

I don't the "feminist" aspect of abortion. I can get behind reasons like fatal conception, morbid defects, rape, and all that. However, to make a women power fuss over abortion is pretty insensitive in their part.

It's not about the baby. It's never about the baby. It's about a proud, independent womyn not having to be burdened with pregnancy.

 

[repentance]

Most do but there's still a pretty significant amount that go up to 19-22 weeks, for whatever reason. And the technology won't remain stagnant ostensibly, meaning it will likely be able to keep fetuses alive earlier and earlier potentially.

Anyway it sounds like it's a great technology and will do some good in the world.

The ability to keep younger and younger fetuses alive has progressed massively over the last couple of decades. It was always going to create issues with regard to existing abortion laws whether those were written in terms of "viability" or a defined period of gestation. This new technology does not change that. What it may do is eventually allow *wanted* pregnancies to continue to viability when they would otherwise have failed.

And yes, there are a significant amount of pregnancies terminated at the 19-22 week mark - that's when a lot of defects can be identified. If the technology becomes available to identify those abnormalities earlier, it will be used.

As someone who is vehemently pro-choice, I don't see any problem with developing technologies which allow wanted pregnancies to continue while at the same time developing technologies which allow abnormalities to be detected earlier. It's not an either/or situation.

 

[TowinKarz]

See, the problem is, you think these people REEEEE to achieve something. The "being offended" part is its own purpose. It's all about being publically offended, to show off how enlightened you are and to tell others that they have to meet your demands cause it just feels so good to wield power and be validated in this way.

It's the best insight into why Victorian Women would faint seemingly on command... the need to prove you were offended (and thereby a proper moral woman, not some harlot) outweighed the dignity you lost by doing it and validating backwards thinking about "natural" female frailty that we're still dealing with today.

SJWs are setting back race relations and making everyone hate progressive causes and validating racists who say minorities are animals at best and just can't cut it in polite society unless we hold their hands, for no other reason than they want to look good in front of their Facebook friends.

 

[Terrorist]

lol at baby killers taking any sort of moral high ground whatsoever

like just admit you're amoral pieces of shit, you're not really fooling anybody

It's not human until it can shitpost.

when they do the ultrasound on my wife, the doctors are gonna pick up faint cries of "nigger tranny faggot" and get spooked while I smile knowingly

 

[Ruin]

I don't get the "feminist" aspect of abortion. I can get behind reasons like fatal conception, morbid defects, rape, and all that. However, to make a women power fuss over abortion is pretty insensitive in their part.

Same. Rape and genetic defects are perfectly valid reasons to terminate a pregnancy but the "abortion is empowering" crowd is incredibly creepy.

 

[cuddle striker]

The fellas who are pro life will be singing a different tune when bodily autonomy ends and Dick Cheney shows up with the secret police to collect some kidneys.

 

[AnOminous]

The fellas who are pro life will be singing a different tune when bodily autonomy ends and Dick Cheney shows up with the secret police to collect some kidneys.

lol calm down you only need one.

 

[cuddle striker]

lol calm down you only need one.

Cheney wants all three.

 

[Miss Hortensia]

This technology would be a godsend for all the women out there, who are affected by pre-eclampsia and other disorders of pregnancy. It's a severe disorder and often only the mother can be rescued, because the foetus is too young for normal incubators.

 

[Hui]

Lmao "forcing to Parenthood"
But men are forced anyway, even if they don't want to keep the child, isn't that equality?

You have sex?

 

[Computery Guy]

It's not human until it can shitpost.

That's such a low bar to clear you might as well start declaring ants human.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

It's not about the baby. It's never about the baby. It's about a proud, independent womyn not having to be burdened with pregnancy.

Hey, I wouldn't want to be burdened by pregnancy either.

 

[Y2K Baby]

As a baby, I approve. I won't have to shitpost in a jar of pickle juice anymore.

 

[Coldgrip]

I think all these problems could be solved by teaching women not to be whores.

 

[Male Idiot]

I think all these problems could be solved by teaching women not to be whores.

Or just using the pill. Feminists used to call it the ultimate tool of empowerment, but I guess its more convenient to get an abortion than to take medication that also reduces the time you spend in the red rage.